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So has it been confirmed that there will be no courtroom scenes whatsoever, or has it just not been mentioned yet?
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I think at the moment they simply haven't been mentioned, but the current screenshots and game title imply that we won't be seeing any sort of trial.
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I think it just hasn't been mentioned so far. :D
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I HOPE it just hasn't been mentioned yet...

The thought of old Sierra style adventure segments between court phases makes me explode like Wierd Ed's Hamster in the microwave...
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TheRedPriest wrote:
I HOPE it just hasn't been mentioned yet...

The thought of old Sierra style adventure segments between court phases makes me explode like Wierd Ed's Hamster in the microwave...


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Anyway, yeah I really hope there's gonna be court scenes, I wanna get the Guilty verdict on the criminals I've worked hard to catch.
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There's been no mention of courtroom scenes. That doesn't rule them out or anything, but it's likely that even if there are some in the game, they'll take a backseat to the investigation/adventure parts.
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I doubt you'll actually play as edgey in court, but maybe there will be cut scenes depicting his victory or something
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Avenger wrote:
I doubt you'll actually play as edgey in court, but maybe there will be cut scenes depicting his victory or something


I like this idea best. It would be kind of boring to go through the court phase when you've already solved the case ahead of time and know for sure who's guilty. A few quick flashes of Edgey laying on the smackdown and the culprit screaming in defeat would be just enough!
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Edgeworth is such a quality prosecutor that we don't even really need to play the court scenes to know that he wins. The trick is finding the person for him to throw the book at. :shoe:
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Croik wrote:
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I doubt you'll actually play as edgey in court, but maybe there will be cut scenes depicting his victory or something


I like this idea best. It would be kind of boring to go through the court phase when you've already solved the case ahead of time and know for sure who's guilty. A few quick flashes of Edgey laying on the smackdown and the culprit screaming in defeat would be just enough!

I'm hoping there's at least some kind of court sections, because the fandom needs more defense attorneys.
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I can't really imagine them having actual courtroom play in this game, since that would take away from the point of the main series. If the courtroom is used, I think that the way you play through it would be substantially different than how it works in the Ace Attorney games. It looks like the focus is definitely supposed to be on Edgeworth and Gumshoe as they investigate.
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What would be the point of playing a prosecutor if there's no courtroom play though?
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I think that a court trial would be good here.

I mean, when can we finally get beack at Phoenix? Come on, he needs to be punished for those stupid questions he always asks. :karma:
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Even if there were courtroom scenes, how would they work?

There'd be no cross-examination at all, it'd been really boring.
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Maybe instead of doing the investigation: Phoenix Style! with psyche-locks, you will be able to gather some "decisive" witnesses and prepare them to give their testimony. That could be instead of the courtroom scenes with the cross-examination. Then you would also have gathered some evidence along the way (with Gumshoe) to present. Come to think of it, they already had the jury system in AJ, so it would actually be good if, for this game, they changed the court rules to innocent until proven guilty. This would provide more of a challenge for the prosecution.
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Sheepshifter wrote:
Even if there were courtroom scenes, how would they work?

There'd be no cross-examination at all, it'd been really boring.



Actually that isn't true.

Before the trial, you'd tell the witness what to say. The more contradictions there are in the cross-examination, the more you get penalized.
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Well, in real life the Prosecution can cross-examine, so maybe they'll change the rules of the game to allow that? It would be more fun to be a prosecuter if the game were changed a bit more to reflect real life.
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Before the trial, you'd tell the witness what to say. The more contradictions there are in the cross-examination, the more you get penalized.


Wow, that's a good idea. But it would make saving/loading games really bad if you made a mistake... you'd have to start over....
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Capcom will think of something, they always do.... or not...
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Before the trial, you'd tell the witness what to say. The more contradictions there are in the cross-examination, the more you get penalized.


Wow, that's a good idea. But it would make saving/loading games really bad if you made a mistake... you'd have to start over....


The penalty bar would be able to take more damage, of course.
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Here's how I see it: In the AA series, we all know that despite the fact that we play as defense attorneys we end up prosecuting the real guilty party anyway. In fact, by the last day of cases, it seems like the defense prosecutes and the prosecution defends...which is odd.

What I think will happen is that the majority of the game will center around exploring, investigating, gathering evidence, etc. We'd still have the mystery of not knowing who did it...but we'd be the ones finding it out ourselves. Then the court phase would happen at the end of the case, and would be much shorter: Knowing the real killer, all you have to do is make sure the defense (Kristoph?!) doesn't wriggle their way free. The suspense comes from knowing that unless you find the evidence, a killer is going to walk the streets free.

Essentially, it would be like the final cornering of witnesses that happens in all the games...except the whole court proceedings would be like that! And instead of cross-examination, you'd have the prosecution doing "redirect" questioning of witnesses (court procedure: essentially it's like "cross-cross-examination.") I don't see why so many people are up in arms about this: We act as the prosecutor at the end of every case in AA anyway!

The AA series is all about finding the guilty and delivering justice. This seems the natural conclusion from that principle. What I want to know is, if this game really is set between 1-1 and 1-3, how are we supposed to sympathize and go along with Edgeworth's cutthroat tactics and evidence forging? :|
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if this game really is set between 1-1 and 1-3, how are we supposed to sympathize and go along with Edgeworth's cutthroat tactics and evidence forging? :|


:edgeworth: We are going to forge evidence.
:sadshoe: But that's illegal, pal.
:edgeworth: Not actually submit it as real evidence.......
:eh?: Bribing?
:edgeworth: Yes.

*Meanwhile during interviewing*
:adrian: Blah blah blah blah. Insert obvious lie here.
:edgeworth: Oh my god! My cravat is vibrating, it's time to perceive make the witness talk!

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:edgeworth: You said you were at the market in that very morning, but yesterday you said you were at the library in the morning! CONTRADICTION FOUND!! *Edgeworth throws multiple forged evidence, that will never be submitted into court*

:adrian: OW! OW! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!! Fine I'll talk, just stop throwing!!111!
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:edgeworth: Oh my god! My cravat is vibrating, it's time to perceive make the witness talk!

DS: Aim carefully. Press buttons and tap the screen at the right time, don't forget to use some sort of logic!
:edgeworth: You said you were at the market in that very morning, but yesterday you said you were at the library in the morning! CONTRADICTION FOUND!! *Edgeworth throws multiple forged evidence, that will never be submitted into court*

:adrian: OW! OW! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!! Fine I'll talk, just stop throwing!!111!

I think all that needs to be said about this is:
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Well, I'm really really hoping there are courtroom scenes, you are still a prosecutor after all. And for some reason the person profiles that look the same from the other games imply it a little bit.
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Well, I'm really really hoping there are courtroom scenes, you are still a prosecutor after all. And for some reason the person profiles that look the same from the other games imply it a little bit.


There's been plenty of theories of how this game could work without trials, and they all seem probable.
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There are still probably going to be trials, but, like I said, they're probably going to take a backseat to investigation. Doesn't anyone agree with my theory? :yuusaku:
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Also you know what would be a twist was if you had to get someone a not guilty verdict just like
Spoiler: Case 2-4
when Phoenix had to get his client a guilty verdict.
because the person who really did it is the witness.
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I think I like the cutscene idea best. Yano, after you find out who did it, you get to see all the objectiony things :D

But then again I really like cutscenes :grey:

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Also you know what would be a twist was if you had to get someone a not guilty verdict just like
Spoiler: Case 2-4
when Phoenix had to get his client a guilty verdict.
because the person who really did it is the witness.


1-3 anybody? :snap:
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Croik wrote:
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I doubt you'll actually play as edgey in court, but maybe there will be cut scenes depicting his victory or something


I like this idea best. It would be kind of boring to go through the court phase when you've already solved the case ahead of time and know for sure who's guilty. A few quick flashes of Edgey laying on the smackdown and the culprit screaming in defeat would be just enough!


You forgot the random confetti that is tossed from the stands.

Wait, isn't there a comic about Gumshoe tossing confetti once Edgeworth wins a trial?
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Croik wrote:
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I doubt you'll actually play as edgey in court, but maybe there will be cut scenes depicting his victory or something


I like this idea best. It would be kind of boring to go through the court phase when you've already solved the case ahead of time and know for sure who's guilty. A few quick flashes of Edgey laying on the smackdown and the culprit screaming in defeat would be just enough!

I wouldn't think so because in PW and AJ you KNOW who the culprit is but you still have to prove it and in the real world prosecutors are burdened with proving a defendants guilt. Besides one little part in 3-5 makes me want more Edgeworth playing time :will:
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Avenger wrote:
I doubt you'll actually play as edgey in court, but maybe there will be cut scenes depicting his victory or something


I like this idea best. It would be kind of boring to go through the court phase when you've already solved the case ahead of time and know for sure who's guilty. A few quick flashes of Edgey laying on the smackdown and the culprit screaming in defeat would be just enough!


You forgot the random confetti that is tossed from the stands.

Wait, isn't there a comic about Gumshoe tossing confetti once Edgeworth wins a trial?

Yeah there is, except Phoenix gets confetti whereas Edgeworth gets fireworks and doves.
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I hope it WILL be mentioned... Anyway... It looks really cool! :edgy:
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I wouldn't think so because in PW and AJ you KNOW who the culprit is but you still have to prove it and in the real world prosecutors are burdened with proving a defendants guilt. Besides one little part in 3-5 makes me want more Edgeworth playing time :will:


But as the defense attorney, you have the option of surprising the court by declaring a new witness guilty - even if you prety much know who it is before, the excitement of proving it from nothing, solving the case bit by bit, is what makes the game so great. But as a prosecutor, Edgeworth can't go into court without knowing ahead of time who comitted the crime AND how it took place. If he's doing his job with any kind of competence, he wouldn't be bluffing or changing his mind through the trial: everything would have already been solved.
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I just hope they keep edgeworth's PW animations, especially his 'shocked' one. (I suspect that they will, since it's a well known fact that all programmers are inherently lazy! :welly:)
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I don't know, I mean, sure, it's a point-and-click-thingy or whatever, but since it has the feeling of a spin-off to it, it would be legit to have court-scenes, too. Other than that, it would seem a bit pointless to me.
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Isn't this the project originally called "New Tournabout, Not Court"?

Wouldn't that make it obvious that there are no trial scenes? Although I think that's stupid
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Isn't this the project originally called "New Tournabout, Not Court"?

Wouldn't that make it obvious that there are no trial scenes? Although I think that's stupid



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That could also come to mean "We're giving you new stories, but with the old characters (New turnabout = New cases, Not Court (As in, not a new Court, as in, not new people like AJ, but the good old Edgey and pals)

After all, Traslation from Japanese to English is Rarely 100% I believe one could read it either way, Any objections to my theory?

Also, I think it'd be impossible to have NO courtroom Scenes, because the entire series is based off them, it might be a point and click adventure game, but I think they will have SOMETHING to go in the courtroom

Also, I don't really think Edgeworth every intentionally Forged Evidence, he might have withheld info once or twice, but given his reaction to -
Spoiler: 1-5
finding out that forged evidence was used in the SL- Whatever case
i'd say he does draw the line SOMEWHERE.

Still possible that he would use a bluffing method to intimidate people though.
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*Meanwhile during interviewing*
:adrian: Blah blah blah blah. Insert obvious lie here.
:edgeworth: Oh my god! My cravat is vibrating, it's time to perceive make the witness talk!

DS: Aim carefully. Press buttons and tap the screen at the right time, don't forget to use some sort of logic!


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