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If Edgeworth is the prosecutor, who's the defense? Phoenix? Mia? A whole new character?
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hmmmm
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Maybe there will be no court room scene and no defense attorney...
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火曜日 wrote:
Maybe there will be no court room scene and no defense attorney...


although it seems unlikely there will be courtroom bits, I find it likely Edgeworth will meet will the defence, as when playing as both Phoenix and Apollo you see the prosecutor of the case fairly often out of court.
edit: it won't be Phoenix though and Mia is dead at the time the game is set.
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There probably would be a Defense Attorney and a courtroom phase, otherwise what would be the point of walking around looking for evidence?

But I believe that there probably will be a new character playing as the Defense.
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nose wrote:
although it seems unlikely there will be courtroom bits, I find it likely Edgeworth will meet will the defence, as when playing as both Phoenix and Apollo you see the prosecutor of the case fairly often out of court.
edit: it won't be Phoenix though and Mia is dead at the time the game is set.


I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that there weren't going to be court scenes. Sooo... this scenario sounds pretty likely to me. ^_^ And I'm thinking that it'll probably be another defense attorney as well. I think it's been said that there's not going to be any cameos of Phoenix, just a mention of him. ^_^;;
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火曜日 wrote:
Maybe there will be no court room scene and no defense attorney...


although it seems unlikely there will be courtroom bits, I find it likely Edgeworth will meet will the defence, as when playing as both Phoenix and Apollo you see the prosecutor of the case fairly often out of court.
edit: it won't be Phoenix though and Mia is dead at the time the game is set.


But you know, defence never show up until someone has been arrested. And if the game do focus on the process of figuring out the real criminal before arresting ( a detective game, frankly speaking), I really doubt if there would be a defence who against Edgeworh in the game.
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Hmm.. makes you think, right? Maybe the KeyGirl? Nah...

But there MUST be a Defense Attorney.
Prosecutor. Defendant. Defense Attorney. And The Judge. There cannot be trials without all of these. After all, as it's been said, what is the point of walking around the crime scene collecting evidence for nothing? And I don't think there will be one-day cases where you present the evidence you collected and they say "Well, this is pretty decisive and there's no need for a trial". There's no Gyakuten without trials.
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火曜日 wrote:
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火曜日 wrote:
Maybe there will be no court room scene and no defense attorney...


although it seems unlikely there will be courtroom bits, I find it likely Edgeworth will meet will the defence, as when playing as both Phoenix and Apollo you see the prosecutor of the case fairly often out of court.
edit: it won't be Phoenix though and Mia is dead at the time the game is set.


But you know, defence never show up until someone has been arrested. And if the game do focus on the process of figuring out the real criminal before arresting ( a detective game, frankly speaking), I really doubt if there would be a defence who against Edgeworh in the game.

My thoughts exactly. I was about to post something like this almost as soon was I noticed what this topic was about.

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Hmm.. makes you think, right? Maybe the KeyGirl? Nah...

But there MUST be a Defense Attorney.
Prosecutor. Defendant. Defense Attorney. And The Judge. There cannot be trials without all of these. After all, as it's been said, what is the point of walking around the crime scene collecting evidence for nothing? And I don't think there will be one-day cases where you present the evidence you collected and they say "Well, this is pretty decisive and there's no need for a trial". There's no Gyakuten without trials.


Ah, but this is not Gyakuten Saiban, remember? It's New Gyakuten, Not Saiban. So, perhaps there's a way to have a "turnabout" just using the evidence that you collect? I'm pretty sure that it's been said in the few articles about Gyakuten Kenji that there's not going to be courtroom scenes.
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Heh, I got there first crouton.
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Heh, I got there first crouton.


That you did. ^_^;;
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Ok, forget about Gyakuten (there's a kind of contradiction there, after all it's hard to have "Turnabouts" without "Trials". I know "Saiban" is "Courtroom" but it's still hard to think), but think about the point of collecting evidence withouth "using" it (with this I mean, maybe you hand the evidence to another prosecutor, I dunno). However, the game is "Turnabout PROSECUTOR", not "Turnabout DETECTIVE". Really intriguing really.
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Im with Tuesday on this one, I dont think that there will be a courtroom phase/Defense.
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Maybe a new character like a defence lawyer who knows he is defending the guilty but just cares about winning
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Im with Tuesday on this one, I dont think that there will be a courtroom phase/Defense.

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There won't be any courtroom phases, HOWEVER, it was confirmed in the trailer that Franny is a character, presumably the person who actually prosecutes. As you would need to work closely with her to find out exactly what she needs for a conviction, you would have to worry about what the defence is up to. She probably has a new rival who she would talk about, and you would inevitably get to meet him as part of the story.
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it was confirmed in the trailer that Franny is a character, presumably the person who actually prosecutes.

I'm pretty sure Edgeworth is still going to be "the person who actually prosecutes". He worked hard for that prosecutor's badge, I don't think he wants to spend his days chumming with Gumshoe during investigations just to hand over the work to someone else. The prosecution leads the investigation, so there's no reason the think that just because he's out investigating that he's not prosecuting.

Also, I agree with Tuesday that there probably won't be a defense attorney. The game is certain to take place mainly outside of court, and if there are any cutscenes of Edgeworth's courtroom victories then the defense attorney probably wouldn't appear, or be silhouetted.

Although I have to admit, I could see :keylady: turning out to be a defense attorney. In fact, that sounds like a really cool idea.
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Karanto wrote:
Maybe a new character like a defence lawyer who knows he is defending the guilty but just cares about winning


Spoiler:
...like Kristoph? :garyuu:

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I would think a little more the Rob from 1-4
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Ah, it'll probably be Grossburg... :grossburg:
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I doubt it'd be Phoenix. I mean, wouldn't that create some sort of time paradox? *cue MGS3 reference here*

I have a hunch it'll be a new character, who took cases while Phoenix took time off, but that's just me.
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I know this is off topic, But Saiyavenger.
You watch Bonus Stage.
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I know this is off topic, But Saiyavenger.
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That makes two people thus far who have gotten that reference... Now that's fricking sweet.
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Queepo50001 wrote:
There won't be any courtroom phases, HOWEVER, it was confirmed in the trailer that Franny is a character, presumably the person who actually prosecutes.


Just because Franny appears in the trailer doesn't mean she's confirmed as a character in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if she did show up (it would make sense~) but "confirmed" isn't a word we should be throwing around this early. It breeds confusion. :shoe:
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it was confirmed in the trailer that Franny is a character, presumably the person who actually prosecutes.

I'm pretty sure Edgeworth is still going to be "the person who actually prosecutes". He worked hard for that prosecutor's badge, I don't think he wants to spend his days chumming with Gumshoe during investigations just to hand over the work to someone else.


I'd be okay having to spend the whole day with Gumshoe, It"ll be FUN!
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in a surprise twist payne decides to turn his life around and become a defense attorney.........it would be hillarious if that turned out to be true
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From what the trailer implies, the defense attorney is irrelevant because there will be no courtroom scenes. But it won't be Phoenix, since:

1. Phoenix is occupied during GS3
2. Phoenix canonically should beat Edgeworth in court

I don't think you can't have a "turnabout" without court scenes. I grew up reading detective stories; PW is basically just a detective story with a larger scope. The series as a whole is obsessed with the idea of "objective truth", so I think GK will play out something like a good Sherlock Holmes story.
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From what the trailer implies, the defense attorney is irrelevant because there will be no courtroom scenes. But it won't be Phoenix, since:

1. Phoenix is occupied during GS3
2. Phoenix canonically should beat Edgeworth in court

I don't think you can't have a "turnabout" without court scenes. I grew up reading detective stories; PW is basically just a detective story with a larger scope. The series as a whole is obsessed with the idea of "objective truth", so I think GK will play out something like a good Sherlock Holmes story.


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Merk wrote:
2. Phoenix canonically should beat Edgeworth in court



...Actually Edgeworth beat Phoenix in the case 2-4 even the big icon "Guilty" hasn't showed up at the end of the game... :yuusaku:
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火曜日 wrote:
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2. Phoenix canonically should beat Edgeworth in court



...Actually Edgeworth beat Phoenix in the case 2-4 even the big icon "Guilty" hasn't showed up at the end of the game... :yuusaku:


Well, you could go either way at that point, but I have a feeling most of us went with "Guilty", because Engarde was a total scumbag.

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Ah, it'll probably be Grossburg... :grossburg:


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maybe its diego!
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I don't think so. Judging by Edgey and Gumshoe's outfits, this takes place during Diego's coma, so, sadly, as much as I'd like to see some highly caffeinated justice, I don't believe we're gonna get it.
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I think Phoenix might be the defense attorney in the final case.
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I don't think so. Judging by Edgey and Gumshoe's outfits, this takes place during Diego's coma, so, sadly, as much as I'd like to see some highly caffeinated justice, I don't believe we're gonna get it.


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I think Phoenix might be the defense attorney in the final case.


He damn well better be. That would kick ass.

If Phoenix doesn't get to play at least some sort of role in the game, I'll choke a bitch.

Did canon ever say he had a perfect win record anyway?
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I'd really like there to be a defence. One of the things I LOVED about the game is the whole rivalry thing ^^ The storyline and the scandals interested me the most ^^

As much as I'd love to see Phoenix or one of the other characters we know and love, I'd actually like to see Phoenix in a more supportive role. Maybe a bit of Larry too :) You don't see Edgeworth just hanging out in casual clothing. I'd love to see some friendlier scenes like with Phoenix ^^
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