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..........THAT IS SO OVER THE TOP IS IT AWFUL THAT LAUGHED AT THAT?

In any case, I think Matt knows enough about her personality to not do anything TOO blatantly horrible that would scare her off, but I DO like the idea of him subtley influencing her and playing with her sheltered mind and naivety.

...Aaand...I have an idea for Ema's past in this project, (basically, how she started working with Aiga) which is directly influenced by my idea for Lana's part. Does Lana have a part already or should I share?
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Sadistress and Kirihito are still a work in progress, so I'm fairly confident that someone, somewhere, has a good idea of what to do with that direction...

In the meantime, I'm curious as to just how far Matt will get into Makoto's heart. Will there be a short period where Makoto's actions become less-than-honorable on his behalf, maybe? And this could just be in non-super situations, too.
Actually, now that Matt is bad, we can have him show Makoto the less desirable bits of life. Whereas her date with Takita is a weekday afternoon sipping pop and fishing in the park, a date with Matt would be some scary, strobe-light party with people consuming questionable beverages with questionable "additives" and omg these are not really happy people please take me somewhere safe Matt oh I like this room wait what are you doing that feels good no wait its bad its good its bad its bad get offa me I wanna go home now ;__;

And Takita brings out the aluminum bat and his Yakuza buds. Then Dee Vasquez and her thugs show up to protect their "investment." And Takita gets SHOT IN THE HEART. AGAIN.

Insert whole angsty episode about Makoto taking the blame because she let Matt into her overalls and Takita being like "Damn it, I told you he was bad news" and etc etc

AND THATS HOW GS5 DEALS WITH THE ISSUE OF RAPE, CHILDREN.

*disappear*

Good point, Bee. But... uh... what rating are we going for here? If we're going for PG-13 and not R, we may have to patch that up a bit. XP As for Of Angels And Demons, I'm going to need a little outside input on it. I JUST CAN'T FILL IN ALL THE BLANKS TODAY *wink wink nudge nudge SamiGetsHitByABrick* But... yah. Here's what I have so far:
1. The reasons Sadi didn't kill Shannon are currently: 1. Mercy at Kirihito's behest 2. "SHE'S SO ADORABLE I COULD JUST EAT HER UP!" *boob crush GACK hug* (ie. Silver's "Giggle as she squirms" idea)
2. Shannon, comfort object, stablize, etc. Hasn't changed from my earlier posts.
3. My inner hopeless romantic (?!) denies "WORSHIP MY COCK" as the only reason Kirihito takes Shannon back/loves her!
4. Here's a new tidbit... "why does Shannon love Kiri?", you may ask. Well, here's how I see it: you see, Shannon is actually a rather demure little woman when she's around people she's not familiar with (or at least, she was prior to meeting Kirihito). Well, one day, he sees her and is like, "Hey, she's kinda cute." So they talk a bit, Kiri decides he wants to speak to her again, and Shannon is surprised he's giving her this much attention-on-the-verge-of-affection, and she reciprocates the feeling... A LOT. (Clarification: Of course, this all doesn't happen right away! It doesn't become attention-on-the-verge-of-affection/actual affection till a while after they meet.)NOES THIS SOUNDS LIKE "WMC" This is a definite surprise for Kirihito, who didn't see this gentle, almost motherly side coming at all. HA HA I'm writing stuff in tiny print to break the monotony AND to grease my writing wheels XD This is more or less what first pulls him in. So, to wrap up, they fall in love, he proposes to her, and Sadistress shows up and we all know what happens from there. [/ramble]
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Urby's first reaction: :moe-laugh:
Urby's second reation: :accordion-head: (or Gaia's gonk-face, pick and choose)

...as much as I love the way you put it and how much I love you Bee, ...I can't have that in there D| I'd die.
But valid point indeed even though I will not allow it to go that far. :yuusaku:


Still as clueless and as unhelpful on the topic of Shannon+Kirihito, don't mind me...


Silver, do elaborate. As of yet we have nothing on Lana, so speak up...
(When are you coming back, Bee? We miss you :< )
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What if Matt just tries to influence Makoto to steal or something...? For her to do something outside of her moral code maybe. When she refuses, boom. Not that he has any affection for her to begin with, but the fact that she won't cater to his whims would set him off enough to utterly despise her, thus setting off his defamation of character ploy. Enter Takita. Matt, being the convincing and conniving actor he is, lures Takita into believing things he claims Makoto has done. His ultimate goal is to sabotage every relationship Makoto has formed since entering this dimension, to leave her alone the way she came...Thus causing her to take the blame for all of this, AND lead her to feel guilty for Friska and Adrian leaving her; though granted she doesn't remember that, so her interpretation would be something like....

"I must have been bad....to have been left in that place..."

It would be up to Makoto to battle her psychological issues.

Sadistress and Kiri. Sadi is Kiri's outlet for his negative emotions; basically the anger and resentment he's built up over the years. Jealous of Kyouya being famous, jealous of Phoenix....
The desire to get even, the blind rage needed to hurt someone. He feels he has to be the good son; it goes back to the Garyuus' upbringing. Kirihito had a lot riding on his shoulders, to be an example for Kyouya, to uphold the family name...
He hated that burden. But to show emotion was to give up. Bottling it inside, he carried on with a convincing facade..
With Shannon, he found he could let go, and be himself. Trouble with that, the bottle inside him began to leak, when finally it cracked, and broke into tiny shards. From that, Sadistress was born...

YEAH IT SOUNDS DUMB AND CLICHE. But oh well.
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What if Matt just tries to influence Makoto to steal or something...? For her to do something outside of her moral code maybe. When she refuses, boom. Not that he has any affection for her to begin with, but the fact that she won't cater to his whims would set him off enough to utterly despise her, thus setting off his defamation of character ploy. Enter Takita. Matt, being the convincing and conniving actor he is, lures Takita into believing things he claims Makoto has done. His ultimate goal is to sabotage every relationship Makoto has formed since entering this dimension, to leave her alone the way she came...Thus causing her to take the blame for all of this, AND lead her to feel guilty for Friska and Adrian leaving her; though granted she doesn't remember that, so her interpretation would be something like....

"I must have been bad....to have been left in that place..."

It would be up to Makoto to battle her psychological issues.

*8 / *ping*

Would you believe I had an ish-idea for something like that (granted it worked on the assumption Matt really was nice, believe it or don't? Wait, wait, no, I think it can still work, and even better maybe *work work gearsturning neeeerrrrooowww*)
So does Matt know Makoto has MAD HAX (like Takita)? Maybe he happened to witness some or he claims he 'figured it out'?

Yuu makes everything sound so simple, I'm jealous :<
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I'd say he witnessed it. Matt's a smart bastard but I doubt he'd figure something like that out so quickly. If by some chance he did though....He could ultimately use that as blackmail too.

Boooossssss. I don't make it sound simple. xD;
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You know, all villains had to have had a "nice" side at some point...so what if Matt starts out their relationship with completely good intentions after that whole "contest" thing happens, but later finds out about her powers, and finds himself wanting to exploit them?
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Maybe....but given Matt's nature, even his nice facade is so fake to the trained eye and mind...
People like him never "start out" nice at all. D:
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Yuu-chan wrote:
What if Matt just tries to influence Makoto to steal or something...? For her to do something outside of her moral code maybe. When she refuses, boom. Not that he has any affection for her to begin with, but the fact that she won't cater to his whims would set him off enough to utterly despise her, thus setting off his defamation of character ploy. Enter Takita. Matt, being the convincing and conniving actor he is, lures Takita into believing things he claims Makoto has done. His ultimate goal is to sabotage every relationship Makoto has formed since entering this dimension, to leave her alone the way she came...Thus causing her to take the blame for all of this, AND lead her to feel guilty for Friska and Adrian leaving her; though granted she doesn't remember that, so her interpretation would be something like....

"I must have been bad....to have been left in that place..."

It would be up to Makoto to battle her psychological issues.

Sadistress and Kiri. Sadi is Kiri's outlet for his negative emotions; basically the anger and resentment he's built up over the years. Jealous of Kyouya being famous, jealous of Phoenix....
The desire to get even, the blind rage needed to hurt someone. He feels he has to be the good son; it goes back to the Garyuus' upbringing. Kirihito had a lot riding on his shoulders, to be an example for Kyouya, to uphold the family name...
He hated that burden. But to show emotion was to give up. Bottling it inside, he carried on with a convincing facade..
With Shannon, he found he could let go, and be himself. Trouble with that, the bottle inside him began to leak, when finally it cracked, and broke into tiny shards. From that, Sadistress was born...

YEAH IT SOUNDS DUMB AND CLICHE. But oh well.


Ooh, I like it. But how do Makoto and Takita reconcile after Matt practically blows the joint apart? Well, maybe Takita would be like "I always believed in you..." and then... *fizzle* Well, it would be something like that. And as for the "Did my mommies really do that to me?" bit, that could be all smoothed over in some emotional reunion when Makoto finally meets her mommies. ...Right?

The only problem I have with that KiriSadi idea is that it seems Sadi came along quite some time before Shannon showed up. And maybe I'm just interpreting things sideways (as I tend to do a lot, mind you), but "letting himself go" seems to imply that he'd hurt Shannon... this probably isn't what you meant. Then again, I've got another interpretation that's probably a bit closer to what you mean: Shannon allows Kiri to vent out his anger (it's probably one of those psychiatrist "smile-and-nod" sort of things, if you know what I mean) WITHOUT turning into Sadistress, which lends support to the second thing I mentioned a few posts ago (refresher: she keeps him stable [/redundant]). Well, these are very good ideas... I'll file them away. :phoenix:
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I'll be returning after July 4, probably. This weekend looked like it was crowded because of said holiday, so I had my flight conveniently rescheduled. *winknudgegirlfriendbedgosqueakysqueaky*

I don't know, Sami, but the whole ShanKiri thing still sounds kind of one-sided to me, even if they do reciprocate. They may exchange feelings, but they don't seem to share anything so far... I'd really like to see a much stronger bond between them, something we could build more off of rather than it being convenient for plot movement. Has anyone else gotten that kind of vibe from their relationship?
The thing is, whatever their initial reasons for loving each other, after the big reveal those feelings have to have changed. Shannon's expectations of Kirihito are completely blown out of the water - so much so that she obsesses over him and vows to "get him back," yes, but it would be foolish for her to see Kirihito as just Kirihito, especially as she gets to know Sadistress. Maybe she doesn't just accept both sides, she grows to love both of them? (Next on Jerry Springer: My Husband Is A Trangender Lesbian And I'm OK)
On Kirihito's side, he simply can't rely on her as his comfort object any more, especially when she's so opposed to his/her ways. I'm really not sure what he saw in her to begin with, other than a waytoosqueakyaffectionategirlshesaPSYCHOgetouttathereKiribeforeitstoolate. I mean, come on, have you watched My Super Ex-Girlfriend?
Actually, if anything, Kirihito might resent Shannon because she represents oppression. Or maybe he's just afraid to "lose himself" in a positive way, rather than a negative way? Either way the guy needs to lighten up badly.

And yeah, so I went over the top with the Mattkoto thing (MakOtorou?). Sue me. X( But somehow, somewhere, there will be a fan writing crack smutfiction about 'em doing it. AND LIKING IT. And stop looking at me.
I would think that Matt would be able to weasel in far enough to be in on the whole Super Makoto thing - especially if Repast is no longer a dormant personality, but rather just an alternate physical form for him! He would obviously be able to smell out people's superhero energies in his human form, and then hunt them actively as Repast. Since he's "all evil" now, it's not that much of a stretch to unite Matt and Repast as a single entity. In any case, Matt gets a whiff of Makoto and decides to get closer to her to investigate, especially since he seems to have sensed the same energy as Repast did when in combat against Super Makoto.

Maybe Matt would reveal himself as Repast to Makoto as a ploy to get her trust?
"Hey Mako, you wanna see my monster?"
"But Matt, I already saw your OH MY GOD ITS HUGE."
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I don't know, Sami, but the whole ShanKiri thing still sounds kind of one-sided to me, even if they do reciprocate. They may exchange feelings, but they don't seem to share anything so far... I'd really like to see a much stronger bond between them, something we could build more off of rather than it being convenient for plot movement. Has anyone else gotten that kind of vibe from their relationship?
The thing is, whatever their initial reasons for loving each other, after the big reveal those feelings have to have changed. Shannon's expectations of Kirihito are completely blown out of the water - so much so that she obsesses over him and vows to "get him back," yes, but it would be foolish for her to see Kirihito as just Kirihito, especially as she gets to know Sadistress. Maybe she doesn't just accept both sides, she grows to love both of them? (Next on Jerry Springer: My Husband Is A Trangender Lesbian And I'm OK)
On Kirihito's side, he simply can't rely on her as his comfort object any more, especially when she's so opposed to his/her ways. I'm really not sure what he saw in her to begin with, other than a waytoosqueakyaffectionategirlshesaPSYCHOgetouttathereKiribeforeitstoolate. I mean, come on, have you watched My Super Ex-Girlfriend?
Actually, if anything, Kirihito might resent Shannon because she represents oppression. Or maybe he's just afraid to "lose himself" in a positive way, rather than a negative way? Either way the guy needs to lighten up badly.

My concerns exactly. Well, my question's more or less been answered- I can't write romance. X_X Yes, the relationship definitely needs to be made more substantial/more "sharing", but I'm not too sure how to do that... And what do you mean by "build more off of?" What exactly does that entail? [/dumbquestion] Also, "waytoosqueakyaffectionategirlshesaPSYCHOgetouttathereKiribeforeitstoolate" isn't really what I had in mind... it's not like an infatuation, it's different somehow. A little deeper, I guess. Maybe it's a personality attraction? (It's her gentler side that he's supposedly attracted to.) I think their relationship just comes to a halt while Kirihito waits for Shannon to calm down because he knows she will. And it also seems that Sadistress breaks out even more frequently as a coping mechanism to deal with Shannon's absence. Any resentment Kirihito has of Shannon expresses itself through Sadistress (originally, Sadistress acts VERY aggressive towards Shannon). I don't know about the "losing himself" bit, but that may just be because I seem to be headed for another period of brain drain/it's getting late. X_X [Note to self: This idea sucks.] Also... define "love" in reference to Shannon and Sadistress. ><; Obviously, Shannon isn't going to LOVE LOVE Sadistress, but she could very easily become very friendly with her [Note to self 2: Is this throwing character motives to the wind? X_X]. However, this idea actually works out because in the AWWWW scene when Kiri proposes to Shannon again, he asks if she'll marry "all of him." And of course, she says yes. "All the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. After all that's happened, there's no reason for me not to. I do." Well, it'll be more AWWWWW when I actually write the bloody thing, but... yeah. [/ramble]

...Yes, I'm not sure I have any idea what I'm talking about anymore. >>;

GRRRR I'm trying to make this reek less of sex but that's all it seems to be DX I DON'T KNOW WHAT LOVE IS *emoes out, then gets nuked* WHAT IS LOVE / BABY DON'T HURT ME / DON'T HURT ME- *shot TO THA DAMN MOON*
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Well, there's still something else that's bothering me, Sami.
When Shannon accepts his proposing to her...it doesn't sound like love. It sounds like "Well, I don't REALLY want to, but I want to enough that I'll marry you anyway, I guess, as long as I don't have to see half of you too much." Shannon doesn't really ACCEPT him. She has to love ALL of him to TRULY love him. When he asks, "Will you marry ALL of me?" he really MEANS "all" of him. By the sounds of it, though she may end up being friendly with sadistress, it still doesn't sound like she accepts him entirely for who he is. She needs to be willing to look him in the eye and say that she accepts and loves every part of him--she needs to accept him warts and all. Sadistress isn't some person that came and decided to use Kiri's body for a while. Sadistress is PART of Kiri. Kiri is a murderer. That's what it all boils down to, and Shannon needs to accept that and trust him regardless or they really do not have a stable love. She can't marry him just because she likes the way he acts part of the time.

So. Couple of solutions.
1. Based on what I know of Shannon...she might not be able to accept Kiri for everything he is. Their relationship can just end. They don't HAVE to get together--she, realizing that he is far too evil for her tastes, can just reject him, and that's really an okay solution. Not all relationships end with the two people getting married and ruling over fairytale land forever and ever, ESPECIALLY where homocidal maniacs are concerned.
2. Have them get married, but have them not in an absolutely stable relationship. She marries him, but she realizes that she can't ever fully love all sides of him--it's not a perfect, healthy relationship and it never will be and they both accept that because they both feel it's the best way for them to get on.
3. Maybe somehow...alter Shannon's personality in a way that she can love all of Kiri. She's your character and I don't know her well enough to tell you how to make her so that she can love a murderer for who he is. Because that really IS who Kirihito is.
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Well, there's still something else that's bothering me, Sami.
When Shannon accepts his proposing to her...it doesn't sound like love. It sounds like "Well, I don't REALLY want to, but I want to enough that I'll marry you anyway, I guess, as long as I don't have to see half of you too much." Shannon doesn't really ACCEPT him. She has to love ALL of him to TRULY love him. When he asks, "Will you marry ALL of me?" he really MEANS "all" of him. By the sounds of it, though she may end up being friendly with sadistress, it still doesn't sound like she accepts him entirely for who he is. She needs to be willing to look him in the eye and say that she accepts and loves every part of him--she needs to accept him warts and all. Sadistress isn't some person that came and decided to use Kiri's body for a while. Sadistress is PART of Kiri. Kiri is a murderer. That's what it all boils down to, and Shannon needs to accept that and trust him regardless or they really do not have a stable love. She can't marry him just because she likes the way he acts part of the time.

So. Couple of solutions.
1. Based on what I know of Shannon...she might not be able to accept Kiri for everything he is. Their relationship can just end. They don't HAVE to get together--she, realizing that he is far too evil for her tastes, can just reject him, and that's really an okay solution. Not all relationships end with the two people getting married and ruling over fairytale land forever and ever, ESPECIALLY where homocidal maniacs are concerned.
2. Have them get married, but have them not in an absolutely stable relationship. She marries him, but she realizes that she can't ever fully love all sides of him--it's not a perfect, healthy relationship and it never will be and they both accept that because they both feel it's the best way for them to get on.
3. Maybe somehow...alter Shannon's personality in a way that she can love all of Kiri. She's your character and I don't know her well enough to tell you how to make her so that she can love a murderer for who he is. Because that really IS who Kirihito is.

Hmmm... I kinda messed up writing the dialogue sample. It wasn't supposed to come out that way. She DOES come to accept all of him (Sadistress DID fight off Urami, after all), but I didn't make that evident. A simple "Yes" would probably have done the trick. X_X The third option is probably the route I'll take. Actually, "Sadistress isn't some person that came and decided to use Kiri's body for a while. Sadistress is PART of Kiri" is one of the vital misunderstandings that kick off this whole conflict. When it comes down to it, (at least in my mind) she places her love of Kiri above everything else in the end. It might very well be a "He/they need(s) me" sort of thing. Maybe, even after all of this, Kiri is still that gentleman she loved, no matter what he's done. (Wait... I think I'm backing over this... is this acceptance or denial? Probably denial, only a different sort.) ...Well, I don't quite know the exact thought process behind it, but she does eventually accept all of him. On another note, it's advantageous for Kirihito not just because he gets his girl back, but he knows that he has a guardian of some sort in Shannon. BLARGH SAMI YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU'RE TALKING IN TONGUES TO BOOT

Oh, and just a heads up: If I spontaneously vanish (!) for a bit, it's because I'm tackling all the games I got for my birthday. XD I'll try not to be absent for too long, though.
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Okay guys, so while you all continue your discussion on Shannon and Kirihito, I’ve decided to work on Hobocop and The Edge’s past as well as Lyss’ (if we include her that is.) I can always edit around this later on, but here’s what I have so far….

Spoiler: Hobocop, The EDGE and Lyss. Be warned. IT'S FREAKIN' LONG.
Five years ago.
Lyss was your average girl. She was kind, gentle. Wouldn’t hurt a fly. Her one and only passion was drawing (this will have a connection with Makoto later on you’ll see O= ). However, because she was a gentle individual, this made her vulnerable to attacks and insults by bullies at her school.
Her father (name unknown for now) was a scientist that worked for an underground test facility that specialized in experiments that could help society (working on this). Their newest top-secret experiment was kept under the name of “Project EDGE”(how original...). A project that could change mankind forever…

One day, disaster struck at the facility. A murder had taken place. The victim was the man in charge of the project. The suspect: Lyss’ father.

Since I’m not in the mood to do a really big, descriptive, long ass summary, here’s the long story short. Well...sorta...:

-Lyss’ father is the suspect in a murder.
-Phoenix comes to save the day.
-The murderer is not Lyss’ father, but rather a wild animal that probably broke into the facility and killed the man in charge of the project they were working on.
-Lyss idolizes Phoenix.
-Lyss’ family invites Phoenix to dinner as a thank you for winning the case.
-Lyss explains that she wants to become an artist because she wants to bring happiness to the world with her art, like her father wants to solve all the world’s problems with his experiments.
-Phoenix explains he wanted to go into art at one point.
-Lyss asks why he went into law then.
-Phoenix explains he’s looking for someone.
-He says he’s looking for his old friend Miles Edgeworth, who became a prosecutor.
-He wanted to fnd out the reason why he became a prosecutor, however he’s gone missing for about a year now.
-Lyss’ father is startled by the name of Miles Edgeworth, but he just brushes it off by saying he doesn’t know anything about him.
-Lyss is suspicious of her father.

-Phoenix becomes a close friend of the family.
-Phoenix tells Lyss that she should stand up for herself is she wants to stand up for others and that if she really wants to defend herself, she should take up either martial arts or kickboxing.

-Two years later, Phoenix asks Lyss to go with him into the city to an art museum.
-However when they're driving home in a taxi, they are attacked by a vicious animal which looks like a giant wolf.
-Phoenix tells Lyss to escape while he tries to stop the beast.
-When she does, the beast had slashed open the gas tank and the running engine. Because the sparks from the engine had mixed with the gas tank, the car exploded.

-The beast had escaped but Phoenix was severely damaged from the wolf’s attacks and the explosion.
-Phoenix is sent intensive care. The doctor explains that Phoenix had fallen into a coma and because of his severe injuries, he may not be able to pay for his medical bill.
-Lyss says she’ll pay for the bill instead.

-By doing so, Lyss decides to become a bounty hunter. This way she can capture criminals before they cause anymore damage, use the money to pay for Phoenix's operations and track down the one who attacked Phoenix.

-Three years later, she is hired as a secret agent for the Government so she could investigate mysterious occurrences and track down any suspicious characters that tend to cause damage to the community.

-Lyss then encounters Super Makoto and challenges her to a fight believing she is out to do harm.

-Lyss loses as Makoto explains she is using her powers for good like Lyss does.
However Lyss doesn't believe Makoto and still tries to stop her.

-Then Phoenix shows up. However he is not Phoenix anymore. He is now Hobocop.

-Hobocop explains that his operations were a success and that most of his body was rebuilt with cybernetic parts thanks to the money Lyss had earned.

-He also explains that now with his new gadgets he can help combat criminals and bring justice to those who deserve it.

-Hobocop tells Lyss that despite her powerful exterior, she is still that lonely sweet child inside who just wants to show the world what she’s truly made of

-Hobocop asks Lyss if she can help fight crime alongside him. She agrees as the tears began to fall down her cheeks. She turns and apologizes to Super Makoto, knowing she probably has her own burdens to bear as well.
However Makoto tells Lyss she hopes to cross paths with her again into the future.

-Later on, Lyss tells Hobocop that she’s going to investigate the secret behind Super Makoto and try to help her in the best way she can. She also says she’ll continue to be a bounty hunter and help Hobocop track down criminals.

-Hobocop asks why she wants to continue being a bounty hunter. She replies with “I’m going to need money for art college y’know.”

-As Lyss and Hobocop leave, Lyss smiles to herself knowing she and Super Makoto had one thing is common.

-Not only on the battlefield, but hopefully we will cross paths someday in the art field as well Super Makoto.

-Meanwhile, unknown to Lyss, Phoenix has another partner named The Edge.

-The Edge is a man by day and a werewolf by night. His real name is Miles Edgeworth.

-Six years ago, a detective by the name of Dick Gumshoe had informed Edgeworth about an underground facility that specialized in performing experiments that could change mankind. Curious about these experiments, Edgeworth decided to visit the facility himself.

-The new top-secret project titled ‘Project EDGE” consisted of a wolf injected with unknown substances. The scientists at the lab explained that this enhanced wolf would become the ultimate protection against evil. However, the wolf could not do it on it’s own. Instead, they needed to inject the wolf’s enhanced DNA into that of a human so that he or she could protect himself or herself from danger. Edgeworth was then strapped to a chair as the lead scientist injected the DNA into his neck.

-Edgeworth lost consciousness. He wasn’t human anymore. In his new wolf-like form, he attacked the lead scientist of the lab, killing him in result. Edgeworth escaped, knowing he had to be far away from society.

-However that didn’t stop him from the day he attacked Phoenix Wright three years ago. And yet, after being in a coma for about a year, he forgives him.

-Hobocop tells Edgeworth it wasn’t his fault for attacking him, it was the lab’s for injecting the DNA into him. However, if they brought this up to Lyss, it would mean her father and the facility he worked at, had indirectly attacked Phoenix.

-Hobocop tells Edgeworth that he’ll try to find a cure for him if he’s the last thing he does.

-Unknowest to the three of them, a raven-haired girl watches from the shadows.
Now who could that be? :damon:


And...well. That's my contribution for today. :oops:
God knows how many grammer errors are probably in there. However, LySs needs sleep now...
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Oddly enough I was thinking about submitting Pearl dressed in a magical girl like uniform for the GS Mech series I was inspired by seeing the uniforms for the character MOMO in the Xenosaga series and thought if they can add an element like that in scifi mech setting and not have it seem out of place then maybe it would work here in GS Mech as well.

This gives me a better reason to buy those books by Christopher Hart you should check them out it one deals with the Magical Girl genre and everything though if your adding robo cop and werewolf like elements in I don't know how much help it will be. Here's sample pages from one of those books just click on the arrows on side of the page to view them.


MANGA MANIA MAGICAL GIRLS AND FRIENDS: How to draw the super popular action-fantasy characters of manga.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0823029 ... eader-link


Also there is a name generator on the web that comes up with powers/team names/etc for you though you probably heard of it I'll link to the one that deals with anime/manga page it even has a section for coming up with stuff for mechs as well!

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-anim.php

So I want to help out on this project as well, maybe submit a drawing or two in my spare time.
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RE: Shion
Welcome aboard. Leave your sanity at the door. You won't need the claim check, trust me.
Your links remind me that I need to find "American classical" comic book references for this project, as well, for some of the elements that are less anime/manga.
And about Pearl, I think having two "magical girls" (Makoto and Minuki) is a tad crowded already. And as stated above, you might find my concepts for her thus far are somewhat less in that anime direction? If you have any ideas at all, I'd love to hear them - everything can possibly be incorporated somehow.

RE: LySs
As nice as it all seems, I'm somewhat iffy at removing Edgeworth's link to von Karma. Having him under the thumb of such an oppressive man is a part of his character, I believe. Unfortunately, like with so many ideas, I had failed to iterate my own musings in this here public thread.
As to your proposed history, as I mentioned, having Edgeworth arbitrarily transformed is a little cliche as far as superhero-y types go. My own theory was that his lycanthropy was given to him by the Evil Emperor Manfred von Karma (Evil with a capital E!), in the hopes of using the Power Perfect to create a "Perfect Servant" or "Perfect Soldier." Like his GS incarnation, Edgeworth's thirst for justice is fueled by the death of his father - and in discovering that von Karma had betrayed him and used him for his own ends, is able to escape his grasp and return to whence he came.
Able to resume his life as a prosecutor after a lengthy disappearance, Edgeworth finds himself unable to shake off the beast within, the legacy of von Karma that will always remain with him. Initially, his werewolf form engages in violent, brutal acts, and he eventually seeks help from someone he works closely with: forensic detective and amateur scientist Ema Skye. Through his working relationship (friendship?) with her, and eventually with Phoenix Wright (aka Hobocop), he is able to contain the monster inside of him, honing years of pent-up rage, vindictiveness and the darker inclinations of mortal men. He becomes a man focused entirely on a single task: the pursuit of justice.
Comparing it to his original GS incarnation, I always found it a tad easy to see Edgeworth in particular as a "vigilante" sort. A ruthless prosecutor spurred on by the death of his father, known to be "willing to do anything" to bring a criminal to justice.

I suppose this raises an interesting question, however - as we have seen thus far, Franziska, Manfred, Adrian, and even perhaps Redd White have been noted as "extradimensional" entities. I'd like to hear what others have to say about this - is there a race of superhumans living above and beyond Super Makoto's plane of existence?
Did Franziska and Adrian exist in the "original" reality where most of these stories will take place? Or are they entirely alien? I was thinking we could safely do away with the "multiverse" and leave that to be a more ephemeral thing... Certainly, Franziska can use her Power Perfect to travel between the dimensions, but do we really want to get tangled up in that sort of mess? Is it necessary to raise Franziska up on that sort of pedestal? And Adrian and the others?
Consider the options. If there were an echelon of interdimensional beings, than we get a lot more "PURE EPIC" out of the whole deal with fighting Emperor von Karma across the void and space between realities, but we also get a whole load of "PURE CRACK" because dealing with the very nature of reality and existence could get a little... philosophical. Which I'd rather not do, personally - we can leave that to the musings of anime/manga protagonists as they look into the sunset of their last episode.
However, I personally do like the idea of having Franziska and especially Makoto being given that "otherworldly" aspect. Makoto is quite literally an outsider who knows nothing of the big world "out there" and, even if she doesn't know it, her very existence on the material plane is something special. Like a lot of classical heroes, she is preordained by her birth, but I think we've all agreed that rather than having greatness thrust upon her (I'm going to wizard school because this talking cat told me I'm the reincarnation of a powerful priestess who sealed the great demon fox in the navel of a child cloned from my mother's DNA crossed with the blood of Martian vampires).

Bonus points if you name all the things I just parodied there. Answers below.

But the point is that Makoto will come into her own on her own, with a little help from her close friend Takita, regardless of where her parents are from. Franziska could be a thousan miles or a thousand light-years away, it doesn't matter, the point is that she is just not there as an "instructor" figure. MOAR SPIDER MAN, LESS ERAGON. OH SNAP I DID JUST GO THERE.

So yeah... Timehopping aside, are the von Karmas of this Earth?

Answers: Harry Potter, Sailor Moon, Inu Yasha, Naruto, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Trinity Blood. If you got all of these correct, you get NOTHING. You LOSE. GOOD DAY, SIR.
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I think it's fairly likely that the Von Karmas and Makoto aren't "of this earth-" the Power Perfect is some sort of proof of that. As for Redd White, he's also probably an otherworldly being- just one of lower rank than the Karmas (It doesn't get much higher up than the Royal Family of the Universe). Perhaps there's two dimensions in the world of Super Makoto: the dimension where the Karmas reside and the dimension where Takita and the others reside. ...This may be putting the Von Karmas at "Godlike" status, but I'm not sure how the concept of two dimensions + the Power Perfect (or at least the Power Perfect) can go through without that little snag. Reality Hax more or less = God Mode (if this isn't true, tell me). By the way, if Fran and Adrian aren't just instructor figures, what else are they? I'm thinking of "instructor" in terms of helping Makoto with the quest at hand (hmmm... would this mean they're USING her? Would there be a reason for this? A shocking revelation and later a reconcilation? Or does this make Fran and Adrian colder than we want them to be? [/brainticking]) as opposed to helping her with her personal problems. Makoto is really left to figure herself out in this situation.
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It's about time I replied to this place.

Shion: Sup, sit a spell. Be warned, this project is not for the weak-hearted.
Expect long nights of cracktalking with people on Paintchat and arguing over pointless details like what color a bikini should be. (RED - ALL MY FAVORITE THINGS IN LIFE) It's what we do! :adrian:
But yes, Pearl is not very Magical Girl at all. More like power armor.
And roffle Seventh Sanctum. *incredibly tickled by its mention*

LySs: Oh, dang, I forgot about Bee's version of The Edge. :knock-knock: ...which ties in better at the moment(?)
Points for involving Hobocop and stuff. Sorry about making you do all this work and then kaput |<

Bee: Mzrh.
My thoughts -
Perhaps there might be 'layers' of dimensions, I guess? Like, the 'ordinary' world Makoto ends up growing up in is a lower 'layer' than the one the interdimensional beings are. The higher you go, the more hax and wtf everything gets. The lower you are, the more solid and concrete everything is.
*no idea what Eragon is, la la ignoring that comparison*
(Also, if it ain't much of a pain, could I ask you to make a custom banner for me when you get back?)

Sami brings up a nice point. Fran and Andy aren't always about, and just pop in when they please, right? Then what do they consider "a good time" to come in? And how do they treat Makoto?

No ideas, drained from making PW-Pokemons; roffle my waffles and get me a lolmlette
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RE: LySs
As nice as it all seems, I'm somewhat iffy at removing Edgeworth's link to von Karma. Having him under the thumb of such an oppressive man is a part of his character, I believe. Unfortunately, like with so many ideas, I had failed to iterate my own musings in this here public thread.
As to your proposed history, as I mentioned, having Edgeworth arbitrarily transformed is a little cliche as far as superhero-y types go. My own theory was that his lycanthropy was given to him by the Evil Emperor Manfred von Karma (Evil with a capital E!), in the hopes of using the Power Perfect to create a "Perfect Servant" or "Perfect Soldier." Like his GS incarnation, Edgeworth's thirst for justice is fueled by the death of his father - and in discovering that von Karma had betrayed him and used him for his own ends, is able to escape his grasp and return to whence he came.
Able to resume his life as a prosecutor after a lengthy disappearance, Edgeworth finds himself unable to shake off the beast within, the legacy of von Karma that will always remain with him. Initially, his werewolf form engages in violent, brutal acts, and he eventually seeks help from someone he works closely with: forensic detective and amateur scientist Ema Skye. Through his working relationship (friendship?) with her, and eventually with Phoenix Wright (aka Hobocop), he is able to contain the monster inside of him, honing years of pent-up rage, vindictiveness and the darker inclinations of mortal men. He becomes a man focused entirely on a single task: the pursuit of justice.
Comparing it to his original GS incarnation, I always found it a tad easy to see Edgeworth in particular as a "vigilante" sort. A ruthless prosecutor spurred on by the death of his father, known to be "willing to do anything" to bring a criminal to justice.


Aw crap. I totally forgot about the whole link to von Karma. Sorry :ack:
Hmmm...what if the lead scientist of the lab Lyss's father was working under was a human incarnation of von Karma? And perhaps this so-called 'experiment" was actually the Power Perfect? Perhaps Edgeworth decides to investigate this facility because of von Karma's connection with his father. Yet once he gets there and finds out the truth behind his father's death, this thirst for justice, thirst for revenge, brings out the beast in him. And although the human incarnation of von Karma was killed, he still lives on. Of course, eventually he'll go and seek help from Ema.
In that case, von Karma has become an enemy of Lyss' as well, since he's the one that drove Edgeworth to become who he is now.
I'm just thinking ideas as I type... :gumshoe:
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Like a lot of classical heroes, she is preordained by her birth, but I think we've all agreed that rather than having greatness thrust upon her (I'm going to wizard school because this talking cat told me I'm the reincarnation of a powerful priestess who sealed the great demon fox in the navel of a child cloned from my mother's DNA crossed with the blood of Martian vampires).

*DIES LAUGHING*
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LESS ERAGON.

THERE ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE LESS ERAGON 8D

....And...I'm loathe to admit that I really do not have anything productive to contribute at this time >>; Other than I adore MSOB's ideas for Edgeworth right now and I'm pretty neutral about whether we have LOL ALTERNATE DIMENSIONS or not. I don't really care, TBH.
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Urby I don't mind burning the midnight oil, hell some of the best ideas(or crack pot either way you look at it) come to me in the dead of night.

I don't know how much help I'll be though I think I will have to re read all the stuff that has been posted thus far that much information is kinda hard for me to remember.

Is someone planning on creating a fan fiction and posting it once all the everything is worked out? I like to see what some of the people on fan fiction.net have to say about this project if they thing GS Mecha was strange then wait until they hear about this one. :edgy:

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Thanks boron! I can't say when I'll be able to post any drawings anytime soon though I'll definately be working on it on my spare time. :pearl:

I was skimming through page one looking at the images people have submitted so far I like the one with hobo phoenix on the bicycle it kind of reminds of that one scene in Bubble Gum Boy by Jared Ornstead where this guy's self insert goes on this high speed chase with bikers and police cars chasing after him.

The thing is I can easily see Hobo doing this, in my mind this would be the sort of bad ass thing he would do. While causing mass destruction in his wake. :enguard:

Of course Hobo would get away in the leaving the police pissed off and nursing a grudge maybe some like :damon: or better yet :sassy: would make it his/her life's mission to bring the Hobo down. Sort of how like James Jamison has to paint Spider man in an ugly light there is just something about that guy that rubs you the wrong way. :hobohodo:

This could only work if he were an ex cop and felt that the current police force is corrupt aka :damon: then he would take the law in his own hands and would be bitter about the fact that his badge was taken away from him like by demon gant for example.

This is probably set in the GS4 time line so there is no way Gant could be in this story, but, hey you said insanity is welcome so why the hell not? Demon Gant has a grudge against the Hobo a man who has made a mockery of the police force and of him and he would do anything to bring him down.

Even if it meant the police armed to the teeth taking on a man in an ordinary cycle while out for an evening stroll...

Makes me want to draw the scene even if I'm bad at doing comic panels to get a better idea what I mean go read Bubble gum Boy, this chapter in particular.

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[ideavomit] I gots an idea! (Oh noes!) Maybe the cause of all the interdimensional conflict is because Manfred is planning to take over the dimension of Takita and the others? That would explain why Makoto was sent to that particular dimension- to eventually protect it (of course, we're going to avoid the "because the talking cat told me" route that MSOB mentioned- It's ALL about working up the courage. Sure, even if an Oracle From Beyond The Stars came, Makoto would probably be too spooked at first to take care of matters right away). It would also explain how certain enemies came to the "human" dimension, and why most of the conflict seems to take place there. It's all about the fight against the evil otherworldly aliens to protect the "human" dimension! [/didIjustspeakinEngrish?] As for why certain people born in the "human" dimension have powers... well, actually, that's kind of already solved. Only people from the "Karma" dimension can control the Power Perfect (well, only the Karmas/others in the royal family [like Makoto] can use it at its optimum power), which explains why every power EXCEPT the Power Perfect seems to exist in the "Human" dimension. This makes it okay (well, it may make it okay, but it doesn't explain WHY. X_X I guess we can just go the "Superhero Dimension" route for now) for some of the people in the "Human" dimension to have powers- hereafter referred to as the "Humans with Powers". ["Humans with powers" should probably mean the following: anything with powers that isn't from the "Karma" dimension/doesn't use the Power Perfect. The only (?) exception to this rule is Urami, who clearly comes from a demonic dimension.] The flaw I see with this thinking is over-elevation of Makoto and the Karmas, but that sort of comes with Reality Hax/God Mode, right? (Again, if Power Perfect =/= God Mode, correct me.)

...I apologize if this made absolutely no sense. My brain's in a blur from my morning cerealbuzz... [/ideavomit]
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Oooho another member has joined the fray~
As far as The Edge....hm. I'll let you guys handle that. I'm going to be focusing on developing Yuu a bit more and try to figure out her rivalry with Kawadzu in high school [love-hate relationship? =o] and how that sort of affects her a bit...or something.

As far as Friska and Adrian....

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Re: Shion
If you read the rest of the thread, you would realize that a) Gant is already here and b) he's a villain and Ema's some sort of scientist babe.
Please read before you make assumptions |D

Re: Sami
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*gearjam*

Can't comprehend, dear. (I also need to leave like almost right now so that might be a factor)

Is my 'layers' (angelic layers!) idea any good?
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I realize that a lot of people are getting lost as they jump in on the whole thing. I have something to say to those people - don't blame yourselves. This thread is incomplete, disorganized, etc. When I get back I promise to begin working on the website (and comprehensive, exhaustive entries concerning all characters in the universe thus far).

Weighing in on the alternate dimensions thing again, I think I should have just kept my mouth shut. XD
At this point it would be a lot simpler and easier to work with if we just assumed that the von Karmas, Adrian, and White were all originating from some "hyperspace" dimension outside of the normal realities and timestreams. Kind of like how we have different planets with all this vast space between them. It's too much to say that there's a seperate dimension just for heroes and demons... I think it's fine to say that there is some measure of miracles and wonderment in the mundane plane of existence.

RE: LySs
I forgot to mention that Phoenix is not necessarily a lawyer in this universe - Godot's history places him, Kaminogi, and Mia under Grossberg's command in a military spec ops unit. Mia is KIA (pun.) and the unit is dissolved, Kaminogi is held for treason, and thus we have the setup for Le Comte Du Cafe Cristo and Shadow Cell.
There could have been an intermediary period between Phoenix's active duty as spec ops and his reinstatement as Hobocop... and personally I still think Lyss would work well as the government liaison for him, since you seem intent on having her maintain a friendship of sorts with him.

A suggestion I would make to you (and everyone else) is to not be afraid to involve your OC too much with the canon characters - unlike the regular fandom works, the importance of an OC here is measured by how much they actually add to the universe. Serve to enrich CCs and your OC will seem much less like a hangers-on (MOAR NAALA, LESS PUMBAA).
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Hey all, just popping in to say that I'm sorry I haven't really contributed the past couple days, for some insane reason CR isn't working on my computer (I'm typing this on a fam member's while they're asleep >>;) and I've had a few small issues I've been working on IRL as well. So if I don't post much, I promise I haven't forgotten you all and I'll try to be able to contribute ASAP.
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First Page Prototype

EDIT: The above link will remain up for another day, but from now on this is our new subdirectory.
http://xpsyx.com/SuperMako/FirstPage.html

Please note that this is a PROTOTYPE. I will create a new subdirectory and set of pages for Super Makoto, as well as also helping my father develop his own section of XPsyX, since he plans on using it to host his graphic novel side projects as well.
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Thanks a bundle Bee :)
I'm LOVING the Super Makoto graphic~
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I added a new page to the site. Be sure to mouseover a couple of the characters. The format is largely based on CR's own character gallery.
Some of the characters shown are backstory or minor characters, and may be removed from the gallery page pending further discussion. We don't even have everything settled for the main characters, so it might not be wise to clutter up the gallery with deadweights...

In the coming weeks, various Super Makoto contributors can fill out the character gallery with character profiles! Here's a template of the character sheet to be used for each character.
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Name/Super Name:
Age, Gender, Height*, Occupation:
Blurb:
Personality:
Powers/Skills:
Random Facts*:
Friends, Family, Foes:
History and Background:

*Not Required

In the end, a character's profile page will look like this - http://xpsyx.com/SuperMako/CharSample.html
I'll take care of the coding - YOU take care of the writing!

Please remember that a lot of characters are NOT FINALIZED. For now, please include only the most BASIC DETAILS about a character. Finer points like actual plot, story progression and such are still being decided upon, and there are still plenty of issues concerning proper characterization.

Some people have been assigned to handle specific characters.
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  • Makoto Ese / Super Makoto
  • The Chief plushie
Yuu-chan
  • Kaoru Yuuka / Moonlight Angel
  • Aiga Hoshiidake / The Eccentrist
  • Kyouya Garyuu / Rocktra
Sami-Fire
  • Shannon Vane / Crimson Monarch
  • Kirihito Garyuu / Sadistress

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Here's an example Character Sheet! You can find the character page here: http://xpsyx.com/SuperMako/Takita.html
Spoiler: Takita Kitaki
Name/Super Name: Takita Kitaki
Age, Gender, Height, Occupation: 19, Male, Punk Kid
Blurb:
Only son of the Kitakitsune Yakuza clan and Makoto's first and closest friend.
Personality:
Idolizing the Yakuza lifestyle, Takita likes to stir up trouble, pick fights, generally exuding a "tough" attitude and all that. He likes to show off and be manly, so it's no wonder he has a soft spot for timid or vulnerable girls. For all his miscreant behavior, Takita has developed a bit of a nurturing complex with Makoto.
Powers/Skills:
No superpowers, but he has watched enough kung fu movies to deliver a modest judo chop.
Random Facts: Takita has a scar from a bullet wound in his chest - his pride and joy.
Friends, Family, Foes:
Only son of Tsunekatsu and Koume Kitaki. Closest friend of Makoto. Formerly Minami's boyfriend.
History and Background:
Takita befriended Makoto at a young age and they have been close ever since. Considering himself her only family, aside from her father, he is witness, part and parcel to a lot of Super Makoto's goings-on. He was once involved in a Yakuza gunfight and nearly killed. The controversy surrounding this incident lead to his breakup with Minami and his father giving up Yakuza racketeering.

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Spoiler: Yuu-puu
Name/Super Name:Kaoru Yuuka/ Moonlight Angel
Age, Gender, Height, Occupation: 23, 5'2",female, music producer
Blurb:
Head of security at SUVari Corporation and shoujo manga enthusiasy by day, caped fighter of the moon by night~
Personality:
Chipper and friendly to an extent, she loves shoujo manga, and overomanticizes things. Her view on love is skewed as a result of this. However, that doesn't deter her from dreaming. In a fight, she is determined and will use all means necessary to win; especially for the sake of The Eccentrist, to whom she is loyal to.
She is known to have "fangirl moments"; mainly over shoujo manga, or the thought of her idol, Kamen Mask. Beneath the naive exterior lies a heavy heart of guilt, having blamed herself for what situation lead to her being orphaned.
Powers/Skills:
Normal: Acute accuracy with a gun; can fire from 15 feet away.
Super: Controlling the stars and astral plane to suit her attacks; preferring to take offense rather than defense. Her powers stem from the moon, and are not affected by what quarter it's in. However a full moon gives her an added boost to her attacks.
Friends, Family, Foes:
Aiga Hoshiidake, Kyouya Garyuu/Rocktra; rivals with Kawadzu at Yuumei High; also has a friend back in Kyoto; deceased parents Hoshiko and Masaya Yuuka. Also aquaintances with Le Comte through his connections with SUVari Corp.
Random Facts: Despite MA's control of the astral plane, including thunder on occasion, Yuu is astrophobic.
She has experience in firearms;where she picked this up is unclear.
She idolizes Kamen Mask, after he rescued her from an attack in her high school years.
She was born to a music producer and an actress.
Helped Aiga to create SUVari Online.
She is also involved in Rocktra's G-Girl line.
Absolutely hates fish.
History and Background:
She has no memory of the first six years of her life, due to hitting her head after her parents were murdered, and questions her past and what happened...When in reality, a jealous former friend of her mother, famed actress Hoshiko Yuuka, decided to act on her pent up rage, planning to kill the family. After mercilessly slaying Masaya Yuuka, Hotaru went to strike at Hoshiko, temporarily stalled by an attack by Kaoru and a frying pan. As a result, Hotaru planned to murder the girl next. With quick thinking from Hoshiko, Kaoru was pushed into the nearby closet, and from there she witnessed the fatal stabbing of her beloved mother. Racked with guilt, she abandoned her home, only to be found a few days later and forced into an orphanage. A short time later, she was presented with charges, despite her age; she would be tried as a juvenile. Knowing full well she didn't commit the murders, she ran from Kyoto, bringing only a small red bag...
At the age of 22, she becomes a music producer, not knowing that that was what her father once was. Late one night at her home, she is attacked, and shot. Falling from the balcony to sudden death, she blacks out as she is saved by scientist Aiga Hoshiidake, who also fuses her with mysterious moon crystals stowed in his laboratory. The result of this is The Eccentrist's loyal sidekick, Moonlight Angel. Together, they reform SUVari Corp, and eventually team up with Le Comte du Cafe Cristo.



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Spoiler: Le Comte
Name/Super Name: Souryuu Kaminogi / “Le Comte du Café Cristo” / Shadow Cell
Age, Gender, Height, Occupation: 40, Male, 185 cm, Speculator
Blurb: A mysterious and wealthy figure who claims to be a count from a far-off land.
Personality: On the surface, Le Comte is polite and gallant to an unbelievable degree, playing the part of a wealthy philanthropist. Under this glistening façade, however, Le Comte is cynical and half-mad with vengeance, believing himself to be providence incarnate, a weapon used by God to reward the just and punish the wicked.
Powers/Skills: Le Comte’s skills come from his Suvari-designed electronic equipment, including such gadgets as a camouflage device, an advanced grappling hook, a gun that creates its own bullets. His visor serves at the same time to disguise him and to enhance his vision, containing such things as infrared, nightvision, zoom-in (ala Minuku), x-ray, and details about the selected individual, such as heart rate and biometrics.
Random Facts: Le Comte loves coffee, and considers it one of the few joys in life.
Friends, Family, Foes: Le Comte is somewhat friendly with most people he comes across, but the closest he has to “true” friendship in the city is with Aiga and Yuu, who he often meets with at Suvari. He also has a “relationship” of some sort with Sakai, who he worked closely with smuggling coffee for nearly ten years, and is very open and friendly with her crew. He has no living family, but his chief enemy is HoboCop, along with a few governmental agents who he believes to have helped Phoenix cover up his “crime”.
History and Background: Souryuu Kaminogi was once part of a special ops unit. The trouble began when his unit was assigned to neutralize a terrorist cell in Bolginia. The unit he was part of, led by Marvin Grossberg, also contained Mia Fey and Phoenix Wright. The trouble came about when Mia Fey was killed in action under mysterious circumstances. Souryuu was blamed for this, the government claiming that they believed him to be "directly responsible" for the accident, and found guilty of treason. Stripped of his rank, he was sentenced to life imprisonment, but escaped after five years thanks to the help from the criminal leader known as Sakai, who at the same time covered up the escape from officials. Throughout all of this, Souryuu seethed with rage, believing Phoenix to have framed him. Thirteen years later, he returned in secret, disguising his identity with a silvery mask. Having worked with Sakai's criminal organization, he made a small fortune through coffee smuggling, and used it to fashion himself a new identity, "Le Comte du Cafe Cristo". Seeking his revenge against Phoenix, (now, "HoboCop"), he worked with a small time scientist, the future Eccentrist Aiga Hoshiidake, who had recently started his own company, Suvari Corporation. Le Comte funded the rapid expansion of Suvari, with one goal in mind: to use the Eccentrist's technological genius to exact his vengeance on HoboCop. Forcing Aiga to hold back the best of his technology from the market, he used it to fashion a second, secretive identity for himself: Shadow Cell. Now, a wealthy businessman by day, armored seeker of revenge by night, his uncontrollable hatred of HoboCop drives him onwards.


YES I KNOW IT'S HOOGE. I suspect it needs cutting back on, but this guy is way too fucking developed, mostly due to CI and everybody else's wonderful input and the fact that we're basing him off of an already-existing literary character. :grey:
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I've finished Shannon and Kirihito/Sadistress's profiles. Here goes:

Spoiler: Shannon's Profile
Name/Super Name: Shannon Vane/Crimson Monarch

Age: 33 Gender: Female Height: 4’ 10” Occupation: Voice Actress

Blurb: Kirihito’s fiancée and a powerful mage.

Personality: Shannon is generally very reserved and even a little shy/coy at times. Sudden surprises or changes stress her out. However, she has a gentle, perhaps even loving and motherly side that only a few people really get to see. She also has a slightly twisted sense of humor.

Powers/Skills: Shannon is an accomplished mage, with mastery over the Fire and Lightning elements. She can use Indignation, a devastating lightning spell, and Passion’s Ember, a powerful fire-element spell of her own design.

Random Facts: Shannon is a major nailbiter. There’s a bit of a running gag where someone repeatedly swats her hand away when she goes to nailbite.

“Crimson Monarch” was the official title given to Shannon by Urami, but when Shannon isn’t around Urami refers to her by a different, much less grandiose name: “Red Moth.”

Shannon has an awful lot of nicknames: Crimson Monarch (her default super name), Red Moth (Urami’s name for her), Little Darling (sometimes used by Kirihito), Shan-chan (also used by Kirihito), Plush Toy (Sadistress’s name for Shannon), and SuperMidget (also coined by Sadistress).

Strangely enough, Sadistress doesn’t seem too opposed to Shannon- the two have even had friendly chats on occasion.

Friends, Family, Foes: She is Kirihito’s fiancée, but upon Shannon’s discovery of Sadistress, the two have separated. Shannon isn't too keen on Sadistress, obviously... Urami Shikabane is the one who taught her magic and sometimes acts as a mentor figure.

History and Background: Shannon Vane met Sadistress as her male alter-ego/second half/other side Kirihito Garyuu. Over time, the two developed a relationship that evolved into love. He proposed to her, and the two were engaged to be married… until Shannon met Sadistress. One day, when Shannon stopped by Kirihito’s house, she found he wasn’t there. Shortly after, Sadistress- not Kirihito- returned from a particularly unpleasant night out. Sadistress was her usual rotten self until Kirihito broke through- and told Shannon everything. Shannon decided that she couldn’t marry him unless he got rid of his rather objectionable alter-ego/second half/other side. When he couldn’t, the engagement (though not their love) was off. Unaware of Sadistress’s nature as a being, Shannon has since devoted herself to trying to exorcise Sadistress from Kirihito. She has been studying magic under the mysterious witch Urami Shikabane, who was spying on that meeting…


Spoiler: Kirihito's Profile
Name/Super Name: Kirihito Garyuu/Sadistress
Age: 32 Gender: Male/Female! Height: 6’4” Occupation: Lawyer

Blurb: A man who is the very picture of duality. Engaged to Shannon.

Personality: Kirihito Garyuu is cool, collected, and elegant- every bit the perfect gentleman. Sadistress, being a manifestation of Kirihito’s negative impulses, is very much the opposite. She is loud, dominating (of course), violent (of course again), and really a bit of a nymphomaniac (another obvious one). She gets jealous VERY easily and can really hold a grudge. Her behavior can range from mischievous to outright atrocious. She also seems to be perpetually in need of someone to take out her and Kiri's negative energy on. If she doesn't get that when she needs it, she goes totally out of control.

Powers/Skills: Kirihito himself is completely powerless- Sadistress is the one with the power. She has VERY strong physical attacks with both her hand-to-hand combat skills and her whip.

Random Facts: Sadistress’s bust size is actually variable- the more negative energy from Kirihito she has stored up, the more top-heavy she is (with a maximum and a minimum, of course). She’s got a habit of giving certain people (ex. Shannon, Kyouya/Rocktra, and Apollo) these tight hugs- but her boobs are so big that it’s really more of a boob crush than a hug. Sadistress calls them “The Boobs of Injustice”… but many others will just say they provide a legitimate risk of suffocation. There’s also a major running gag where Sadistress’s boobs stretch out whatever she’s wearing at the time and eventually bust it open (no pun intended) due to their size. Rocktra is normally the one who has to replace the ruined article of clothing.

Sadistress calls people she’s fond of “Plush Toys.” Two people who have received this dubious honor are Shannon Vane and Housuke Odoroki.

Friends, Family, Foes: Kirihito/Sadistress is Kyouya/Rocktra’s brother/sister. He/She/They is/are engaged to Shannon Vane. Sadistress is not on good terms with Odoroki/Apollo Justice.

History and Background: As Kirihito grew older, he felt something gnawing at him- an urge, one could say. He eventually realized he was slowly transforming into… well, a jealous bitch. He decided that the best way to cope with this was to push it into another personality. For some reason, this personality seemed rather feminine to him, possibly due to some of its imagined mannerisms… but he shrugged and went through with it anyway, and Sadistress was born. She didn’t physically manifest at first, but as Kirihito’s inner evil became more and more concentrated, she began to break through more and more frequently. The day she finally became a physical manifestation was the day Kirihito’s life changed forever…
Fast forward to about a year before Super Makoto takes place. Kirihito had proposed to Shannon, the only woman he felt would be able to keep Sadistress in check with her kind nature. Of course, all of his beautiful plans went up in smoke when he came home as Sadistress without knowing Shannon had paid him a visit…
As for the dynamic between Sadistress and Odoroki/Apollo Justice... Sadi tended to break out frequently when Apollo was working with Kirihito. Whenever Sadi would break out, Apollo would end up taking the brunt of her aggression. When Apollo finally tried to stop her, Sadi was none too pleased at the prospect of losing her "plush toy." This, of course, causes her to beat up Apollo even more- hence their current state of rivalry.


Yes, I am well aware this contains a lot of "WTF?" I didn't know enough of Kiri's backstory, so I made a bunch of it up on the spot. HOORAY FOR EXTRA-CRACKY EDITION BRAINCORN KERNELS
Edit: Added some business with Odoroki to Kiri's profile.
Edit 2: Made some small edits to Kirihito's history, added another random fact for Sadistress, and fixed an unclear antecedent. Also removed something dumb from Shannon's profile (ie. the last random fact) and added a nickname.
Edit 3: Fixed a sentence I didn't complete and added one more tidbit to Kiri/Sadi's Personality section.
Edit 4!: Removed Sadi's "Skill List." I think I've watched the Tales of The Abyss Mystic Arte Exhibition video one time too many...
EDIT 5! O_O: Added a small but semi-important tidbit to Shannon's profile.
Edit 6 why yes I do have a bad habit of remembering things a long time after I should have, why do you ask: One small edit to Shannon's personality section. This should be the last one for a while unless something suddenly gets cooked up.
Ahih=makyan; Avatar art by LunaOfWater on DeviantArt.


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Oh boy I should probably read these but I'm lazy :'D

Here's my badlywrittentiny profile for The Chief. I'll write the others later.

Spoiler: Supershort but under a cut anyway.
Name/Super Name: The Chief Plushie
Age, Gender, Height, Occupation: 16ish, Female(?), 8 inches high, Mysterious Omnipresent plushie
Blurb: Created to watch over Makoto while her parents were away. Some people find it odd.
Personality: (Mysterious?) Eager to please, protective of Makoto.
Powers/Skills: Omnipresence, ability to let holder establish telepathic communication to whoever holds the Silver Plushie
Random Facts: When around the presence of Power Perfect, it becomes more animated.
Friends, Family, Foes: ...Not really applicable
History and Background: Created by Franziska and Adrian for Makoto. Watched over her ever since.
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Well, as much as I tried to emphasize the fact we shouldn't get carried away...

These are all acceptable for gallery posting, with some cosmetic editing. I won't chop up the "exhaustive" histories, but you better be ready to rewrite them in the future if things change. Right now, we're trying to populate the gallery, not confuse people. None of what's seen in the gallery is concrete. We have yet to officially canonize a lot of the universe and history.
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The Chief Plushie has been added.

I need to get in touch with others to see if we can do editing on those.



In the meantime, I'd like to ask if anyone has any ideas on naming the Pocket Dimension. It needs a nice name, perhaps mythical, but simple and evocative of paradise, home, and dreams. (I've referred to it as Elysian, but it's hard to find paradise names that aren't related to death and the afterlife)

Urby has described the Pocket Dimension as a very malleable piece of reality, fueled by the Power Perfect and able to be manipulated so it can provide anything and everything, and change its appearance to an inhabitant's wishes.
I think this sort of nature would lend to it being Makoto's childhood home, where her imagination was given free reign and she could create lovely dreamscapes and go on fantastical adventures. I was inspired by Chinese landscapes, myself. Link - Link - Link

I also just had an idea that, if the Pocket Dimension were a place where the Power Perfect could have absolute power, then it definitely be an important target for Emperor Manfred! He may just want to appropriate it for himself as a factory for his armies or something.
Other potential plot point - upon finding the Pocket Dimension and discovering her unlimited power within it, Makoto refuses to leave, holing up in her colorful fantasies where nothing dreadful ever happens. Takita and other friends try to coax her out but are unsuccessful. When Manfred invades, she realizes that she will have to give up her dreams for the things she really loves - she collapses the Pocket Dimension (with Manfred inside it?) and returns to Earth, her "true home."
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....WAIT A SECOND WHY HAS URBY BEEN ASSIGNED TO HANDLE THE SILVER PLUSHIE :/ It's the freakin' SILVER plushie and I signed up to handle its profile way back when we started volunteering for them :/

In the mean time I'll go ahead and write Ema's profile, but keep in mind that I'm only getting her GS4 personality from secondhand opinions and that I'll just be kind of winging a few sections that haven't been discussed rather than setting anything in stone.
ALSO: I don't currently know how Ema met Aiga, so I'm skimping over that part. It's something I think we should figure out, so I'll leave it open-ended in the profile until it's decided upon.

Spoiler: Ema
Name/Super Name: Ema Skye

Age, Gender, Height*, Occupation: 25 (?), female, scientist

Blurb: Scientist working for Aiga.

Personality: Ema is a naggy, somewhat intelligent and confident woman who is moody and often complains about Aiga or her working conditions. She is only truly happy when she gets to work with anything scientific, in which case she can be very enthusiastic. Despite this she can be a nice person.

Powers/Skills: No powers, skilled at science, particularly forensic science and chemistry.

Random Facts*: Ema is fascinated by Makoto's magical plushie, and spends much of her time trying to figure out the secret behind how it works.
She snacks a lot.
She has been heard shouting "THIS IS NOT SCIENCE" when witnessing the rest of the cast's magical powers.

Friends, Family, Foes: She has an older sister named Lana. Parents are deceased. She is allies with the Edge, and is trying to use her science to figure out how to cure his werewolf condition. She's not fond of Rocktra or Apollo Justice.

History and Background: Ema spent her life being forced to do jobs she didn't like and never got to use her science to its full extent. One day after a particularly boring day of work, she discovered the scientist Aiga, who was looking for an assistant. She happily offered, ecstatic at an escape from her normal monotony and at the opportunity to spend her time with science. So passionate was she about her science that she shoved down her conscious about what exactly it was being used for, ignoring Aiga's villainous escapades to be able to have use of his extensive supplies, laboratory, and library. After she helped create Repast, however, she had to face up to what she had spent her time doing, although she stayed with Aiga partly out of fear, partly to make use of his resources to try to find a cure for the Edge, and partly out of her pure love for science.

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Kind of scrimped on how she met Edgeworth, too, eh? But we can fix that later, when we talk about Aiga...
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Well, we haven't really talked about Ema's past at all, so I left it open >>; I'll write up a proper history when we've decided on it.
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