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Would it be perverted of me to say "That's Hot" while someone else follows up with "I know" and then sips a hot caffeinated beverage?

Either way...that's hot!
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I know. :godot:
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I've missed a lot.

Eh, i'll read through everything later. :phoenix:
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BIG FAT ART DUMP

Spoiler: Aiga and the Secret Moon Crystal
Soon after discovering Kaoru Yuuka in a fragile state, Aiga takes her back to his lab and attempts to revive her with his superior technology. Despite being able to mend her wounds, her life force is draining away fast, and out of desperation he opens up one of his secret vaults...
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Spoiler: Sadistress: More woman than your body has room for
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Spoiler: April May is a G-Girl
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Spoiler: VOLT KARMA
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Spoiler: Lydia is a G-Girl
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Spoiler: More M-rated fun with Cody and Pearl
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Spoiler: Keiko Koike
Is there any way to include her in SuMako? I was thinking she'd be a cyborg like HoboCop, but a bit more... far gone.
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Spoiler: ARRR IM IN UR PARTI STLIN UR CAEK
Idea for a last send-off episode, the one where all the characters show up and have a happy fun time and hijinx ensue.
Makoto picks up her Chief plushie and realizes that she's never given it a birthday party, so she sets about inviting everyone (yes, EVERYONE) to a big celebration. Sakai takes the opportunity to take the cake after Chief has made her birthday wish to become a real girl.
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Spoiler: The Legend of Makoto: The Adventure of Takita
Discovering a weakened, battered Makoto in the outer dimensions, Takita trudges back towards relative safety and vows to become a BAD DUDE in order to avenge her.
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Spoiler: Happy Fun Cuddletime Shannon and Kirihito
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Spoiler: THIS IS CAKETOWN
Hamigaki as THE TOOTH FAIRY
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Spoiler: Makoto goes to a dark place
NOT CANON. But it was fun to imagine anyways.
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Spoiler: Sadi demands pretzels, MSOB demands Edge/Ema
NOT CANON EITHER. For Silver's sake. But it was fun to imagine anyways. Am I repeating myself?
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Spoiler: Poison Polish
Idea for an episode or mini-arc: Makoto finds a mysterious vial of black nail polish that has the power to intensify negative urges (I WONDER WHO MADE IT HMMM). As she becomes gripped by her darker urges, she uses a lot more black in her paintings, to the point where her canvases are nothing but inky blackness. She also starts going out with a guy named Glen Stacy.
This might also work as a suitable foreshadowing to Rocktra attempting to enslave the city through her G-Girl products - what a copycat!
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Spoiler: Please discard of condoms properly
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More about the Black Polish... Urby suggested that it actually come from the remnants of the Dreamscape (Pocket Dimension) that is tainted with Manfred von Karma's evilness. Because of its pliability with the Power Perfect, it reacts violently with Makoto's power and is able to taint her with darkness.
Over the course of this mini-arc, Makoto comes to terms with her darker urges. Eventually, the Black Polish evolves into paint or slime that literally clings to her and spreads throughout her black paint.
Spoiler: Black Polish Nightmare
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Of course, Takita rushes in to save the day. After a long line of self-doubt and hard questioning, Makoto forgets her troubles when she feels Takita's absolute faith in her, and his undying affection. The Black Polish peels away from her, shrinking and evaporating into nothing as it crawls back in to its vial.
Spoiler: Black Polish No More
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After that whole ordeal, Makoto decides to send the vial to the renowned Eccentrist, who then comments on the substance's otherworldliness and symbiotic qualities.
Spoiler: We Get Signal
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So moe for Makoto it's funny.

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It was going to happen eventually. We might as well make it canon. XD
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SPRITE TIEM.

Spoiler: Moonlight Angel, take 2
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Spoiler: Yuumei High!Yuu
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MOAR ART DUMP
Spoiler: OSU! TATAKAE! BAKUNYUU! (Sadi as Shin Cheer Girl from Ouendan 2)
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Spoiler: Rocktra is OUTRAGEOUS
Yeah, it's supposed to be "fashion and fame." SHUT UP.
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Spoiler: BOOB CRUSH
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In this particular pic, I imagined Sadistress would use the pseudonym "Aluadoné" when she is acting as a model for G-Girl. For all her bitchiness, she loves to make love to the camera (and whoever else is looking).
Spoiler: Sadistress is a Genuine G-Girl
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Someone suggested in an earlier conversation that Cody be the true protegé of the Steel Samurai - the Nickel Samurai. He and Pearl are unaware of the other's tutelage from Will Powers, but fate seems to have drawn them together, not just as heroes, but also as human beings.
This is just a concept for Cody's costume. Any ideas on how to jazz it up?
Spoiler: Cody as the Nickel Samurai
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Everyone's favorite Bolginian secret agent returns... Just how does she connect to the Bolginia Incident? What does her government know about Chinami? Her Spartan blood...?
Spoiler: Agent 00L
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RETIRED SUPERHERO: TRIPLE D
The "hero-for-hire" and demolitions expert known as "Triple D" takes her callsign from her initials - Desirée Danger DeLite. Yes, Danger is her middle name, and thrill-seeking is her game. Originally part of an expert team of thieves and pirates, she has since pursued a solo career as an artist of destruction, offering her services and skills to governments in need of some paramilitary support. And boy does she deliver!
She met with Kamen Mask on a fateful operation where they were both attempting to heist the same valuable object. She fell into a trap and very nearly lost her life, if not for Kamen Mask saving her. He later revealed his identity to her as Yuusaku Amasugi, and they fell in love. They have since settled down and retired from the superhero life.

...Then I realized that I'm designing this around her Western name. HEEEEAAAAAAAAAALLLLLP!
Spoiler: Introducing: Desirée Danger DeLite
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Spoiler: They call her DDD for a reason
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And another Venom Makoto picture. In this one she's taken to the stage and enjoys the attention. She seems to be an overdrive version of Sadistress the more I think about and draw her. Whereas Sadistress is more petty and impulsive, Venom Makoto is downright mean and conniving.
Originally the concept for the Black Nail Polish was that Kirihito created it as his perfect revenge against Makoto for turning him into what he is. Perhaps he went too far? And where did he get such powerful stuff from? Did Manfred von Karma have a hand in this after all?
Spoiler: "Le Disko" by Shiny Toy Guns (explicit lyrics)

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*snrk*

Triple D. Heh.
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DANG it seems I missed a lot last night. X____X

Heh, I was actually going to suggest "Le Disko" as the unofficial (?) theme for Sadi. That or Buck Cherry's "Crazy Bitch." XD

Unfortunately, while I can habeeb Kirihito having "created" the black nail polish, I don't think Manfred should have had a hand in that. Manfred is more or less the epitome of the otherworldly Power Perfect, and despite the presence of Sadistress, Kirihito is very, very much still human. [Sudden "getting it": Actually, that does make sense because Manfred wants to sabotage his granddaughter's attempt to stop him...] It seems to be stretching Kirihito a little too far beyond where he should be. Here's how I see it, but this is probably going to mess some things up and make everyone throw bricks at me:

You know how Aiga sells his creations to the highest bidder? PLEASE tell me I'm getting this right. >>; Well, maybe Kiri (or rather, Sadi, because his negative impulses would probably be peaking) makes a request to Aiga under "Aluadone" for the polish. Oh crap I just found a flaw: THIS IS NOT SCIENCE? So, yes. That's my idea. *braces for bricks* Or do we have another scientist we can use?

In terms of when this would happen, I was thinking this would be after the "everyone meets" business in Aiga's lab. What? You have no idea what this crazy little person is babbling about? THEN BEHOLD, GENTLEMEN (AND LADIES): IDEAVOMIT. ...I'M GONNA GET BRICKED
Spoiler: Why yes I did think this up when I was supposed to be sleeping why you ask
Aiga has created this machine called "The Aggravator." It collects energy for his machines by... being REALLY, REALLY annoying. It then absorbs the energy people give off when annoyed. So, it goes around town, doing its thing, when it meets... Sadistress. Being very irritable, Sadi goes nuts on the thing, even going so far so as to pursue it to Aiga's lab and leaving destruction (...well, just property damage) in her wake. Makoto and crew follow the ruckus to Aiga's lab, where they find Sadistress and the destroyed Aggravator. Almost the second Makoto [And Apollo + Minuki? I was thinking they'd have "joined the party" by this point. HO DANG DO I PLAY TOO MANY VIDEO GAMES] enters, Sadistress recognizes her and flares up in rage ("Little girl, I am your worst nightmare~" or something like that). They have a "boss battle" of sorts (Rocktra shows up to aid Sadistress). There's a lull in the fighting, where the brothersisters temporarily revert... until Shannon shows up to help Makoto and crew. The conflict flares up again until Aiga and Yuu (Moonlight Angel? ...I think I got her super name wrong this time, sorry X_X) show up and break up the fight. The Garyuri get impatient and leave, but not before Sadi shoots the evil eye Makoto and Shannon's [and Apollo's?] way. Aiga apologizes (?) and everyone introduces themselves. It's here that our dear readers learn that Kirihito was Shannon's fiance [and Odoroki's mentor, if he's there], and that Makoto "created" Sadistress. and that Snape killed Dumbledore XD Shannon refuses to believe that Sadistress is anything but a demon [this is Urami's deception at work], much less that Makoto made her original design. However, you hear the first hints of doubt here: Takita later makes a comment on how forced Shannon's denial sounded ("It was like she had to force herself to deny what you said, Makoto. For a voice actress, she's really not good keeping how she really feels from entering her voice."). The group parts ways from there...
So, yah. *braces self for panning, bricks, and nukes*

And indeed, Venom Makoto is quite a bit like Sadistress... they are both powered by negative impulses, and they both someone who can disable those negative impulses... Okay, the similarities end there, since Takita completely dispels Makoto's affliction because it's not as tightly bound to her as Sadistress is to Kirihito. But... yah, you know the deal.

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I don't know, it just reeks of "Supers Anonymous." XD I think we should get to thinking about story writing and timeline construction soon for these kinds of quibbles and problems. :x

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I'm still unsure if having Kirihito/Sadistress even commissioning the Black Polish would entirely clear their moral standing. And your line of reasoning is still edging on the idea that Kirihito doesn't like Sadistress.

I think the opposite: Kirihito likes Sadistress. She's a release for him. Even if at first he was horrified by what had happened to him because of Makoto, he eventually sees it as a blessing, a new kind of freedom... even if at the cost of his relationship to Shannon. And there is the tipping point for his arc, when giving in to his repressed impulses starts to dull. His drug of choice has made him soulless, and in despair he may reach out to Shannon to find meaning again.

The Black Polish, on the other hand, isn't an internally generated conflict that can be so easily resolved. It is an alien being that forces Makoto into acting on her darker urges. It is meant to sabotage her willpower and play on her weaknesses, rather than simply embody her id as is the case with Kirihito. The origins of the Black Polish are clearly malevolent, and there is far less hope for Makoto to escape it. It's of a completely different nature from Sadistress.

So in a way, Sadistress ends up being a blessing in disguise, giving Kirihito a superpowerful form, a way of relieving himself, and also teaches him a valuable lesson. Makoto, on the other hand, will be worse for the wear - as much as we may shed a happy tear for her and Takita, she is forever tainted by the Black Polish, for she has been taught a much harsher lesson, but no less valuable... Evil lurks in even the most innocent of souls, even if they don't know it.

But that's just this author's hand being seen in his work... perhaps you all should hire someone else to write the story, if you don't like the "omgserrus" dips I take now and then. |D

Well, I can gleam SOME amount of silliness from it all.
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I'm still unsure if having Kirihito/Sadistress even commissioning the Black Polish would entirely clear their moral standing. And your line of reasoning is still edging on the idea that Kirihito doesn't like Sadistress.

I think the opposite: Kirihito likes Sadistress. She's a release for him. Even if at first he was horrified by what had happened to him because of Makoto, he eventually sees it as a blessing, a new kind of freedom... even if at the cost of his relationship to Shannon. And there is the tipping point for his arc, when giving in to his repressed impulses starts to dull. His drug of choice has made him soulless, and in despair he may reach out to Shannon to find meaning again.

The Black Polish, on the other hand, isn't an internally generated conflict that can be so easily resolved. It is an alien being that forces Makoto into acting on her darker urges. It is meant to sabotage her willpower and play on her weaknesses, rather than simply embody her id as is the case with Kirihito. The origins of the Black Polish are clearly malevolent, and there is far less hope for Makoto to escape it. It's of a completely different nature from Sadistress.

So in a way, Sadistress ends up being a blessing in disguise, giving Kirihito a superpowerful form, a way of relieving himself, and also teaches him a valuable lesson. Makoto, on the other hand, will be worse for the wear - as much as we may shed a happy tear for her and Takita, she is forever tainted by the Black Polish, for she has been taught a much harsher lesson, but no less valuable... Evil lurks in even the most innocent of souls, even if they don't know it.

But that's just this author's hand being seen in his work... perhaps you all should hire someone else to write the story, if you don't like the "omgserrus" dips I take now and then. |D


Hey, the "OMGSERRUS" is fine. Gotta have a little drama here and there... IT BUILDS CHARACTER(S).

If it sounds like I'm being argumentative, I apologize in advance: Unfortunately, Bee, it seems our interpretations have to clash again. Liking Sadistress and not always wanting her around are two different things. As much of a thrill as Kirihito may get from releasing his energy as Sadistress, she interferes with his ability to live normally. That was originally why Kirihito sought Shannon: to hold onto a shred of normalcy while he still has it. [EDIT: she also helps him "come down" from Sadi and makes him feel better when he has a "bad trip" from Sadi. Talk about the "drug of choice" metaphor... XD I guess you could say Shannon gives Kirihito something to come home to. ...This probably makes more sense than the entire paragraph around it...] Although, in light of this, he seems to officially lose that shred just before Shannon discovers Sadi. Now the focus seems to be more on trying to complete himself by satisfying both sides. Of course, being "incomplete" feeds Sadi more energy to go off, and we have a bit of a vicious cycle here. ...What I should really be apologizing for is the fact that this BS AND probably contradicts itself in several places, but by the time you ask me I'll have forgotten where. X_X

Erm... what's Kiri/Sadi commissioning the nail polish got to do with their moral standing? I don't really see a connection...

For some reason, I have this image of the black polish being delivered by a secret/double agent for Manfred... who would the agent be? I was thinking it would be "random goon #3628," except... I would like to say that Makoto's not stupid enough to accept nail polish from random strangers (by this point, anyway), but we all know how that goes... It happened in canon, it can happen in SuMako. "...Hey little girl, want some nail polish?"

EDIT: Aha, and before I forget... (I'll bring this up in Pchat when Ma releases me from hostage-ness.) Here's an idea regarding the Kiri-Hobocop connection. The reason Hobocop is Hobocop and not the spec ops hero is because Kiri destroyed his medals/other stuff in jealous spite. Phoenix has little to no proof of who he once was (...he might have some, but I don't know how these things work) because of Kiri- hence tying into "It's Kiri's fault Phoenix is a hobo." Kiri took one look at the medals/shiny stuff and was all "BUTBUTBUT I WANNA BE RECOGNIZED TOO" but instead of just brushing it off, all the honors Phoenix has received ignite the first MAJOR spark of jealousy in Kiri, leading to the above incident. Might need some work, but eh...

Here's some relevant business from the PChat.
Spoiler: Relevant business, read from bottom to top
(65) Sami-Fire > Yes, that would make sense because their paths start out so separate...
(3) MSOB > Or might not
(3) MSOB > Actually, I was just thinking that Phoenix doesn't suspect Kirihito at all.
(65) Sami-Fire > I guess the two part ways as far as possible, since it doesn't seem they meet again till SuMako...
(3) MSOB > I dunno :-
(65) Sami-Fire > Then Kiri runs FAR FAR FAR away...?
(3) MSOB > Maya disappears, Phoenix is ruined and becomes a hobo.
(3) MSOB > Phase 2: Kirihito confronts Maya about what Phoenix has been doing behind closed doors. (He presents the investigation and photos of Chinami as suspiciously as possible, to get her thinking)
(3) MSOB > Phase 1: Phoenix loses his attorney badge and is out of work.
(3) MSOB > Then GS4's setup happens. Phoenix snags a star case that Kirihito would have gotten, so he sabotages him. [Out of spiteful jealousy]
(3) MSOB > As a lawyer, Phoenix befriends Kirihito, who learns that Phoenix is continuing his own secretive investigatio
n into what happened in Bolginia, especially focusing on the mysterious Chinami.
(3) MSOB > Bolginia: Phoenix is crippled, then returns home to Maya. He continues law school so he can support a fam
ily.
(3) MSOB > Take note that there's approximately 8 years between Bolginia and SMako, as it is with GS4.
(3) MSOB > Okay, let me start from the Bolginia incident.


This event is very important because it more or less wrecks Kiri for the rest of his life... as we all know. Hey, there had to be SOMETHING for Makoto to build on... she did draw him/her going nuts, after all. It's more or less Sadi's first surfacing, albeit in a non-physical form. And is it just me, or does Sadi kinda... tone down in terms of her rage as time goes on? Granted, there was enough frustration with Apollo to make her morph into the form we know and love, but she doesn't quite seem to be as "HURR BLINDING RAGE DEATH I'M GONNA KILL YOU MOFO" as Kiri is in this scene. Then again, it may just represent how twisted that side of Kiri got... he's not even "GRRRRAWWWR" over being a jerk anymore- just Sadi cackling. I guess it's that she's a little more... subtle? Or that she handles her impulses in a different way?

Edit 3: Wait, there's a bit of a problem with Phoenix/Maya here... Bee, I think you said there would probably be babies involved, right? Well, that's probably not going to work, because if this takes place 8 years prior to SuMako and we're going by most character's GS4 ages... Maya would be only 16 years old when Bolginia occurred. Certainly, Maya can still be very close to Phoenix, and Kirihito can still wreck Phoenix by tricking Maya into running away... but we may have to do a little age-fudging if we're still going the "Maya has Phoenix's kid" route. [Hey, this IS an alternate universe, after all.]
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Spoiler: Lyss's story
(13) Gigafreak > Lyss's family works for von Karma. They had to be killed because they threatened to leak information on his heir-to be, Chinami.

(13) Gigafreak > Chinami is involved in the Bolginia incident. Phoenix finds out about the plan via Dr. Enning; one cataclysmic scuffle later, Phoenix loses Mia, Chinami, and the use of his limbs.

(13) Gigafreak > He only managed to save Lyss, Dr. Enning's daughter. She is a child at the time, about ten years old. Her memory had been erased by Dr. Enning for her safety.

(13) Gigafreak > Phoenix brings her home; it’s the most certain way to ensure her safety, given the massive conspiracy surrounding her. He and the government provide lodgings, sustenance and an education.

(13) Gigafreak > Because of the sensitivity of Lyss's personal information (which is unknown even to herself due to the memory erasure), Phoenix is the only one authorized to bring her outside.

(13) Gigafreak > Eventually, Kirihito would drive Maya away, and get Phoenix disbarred in a severely humiliating manner. After a while, Phoenix simply breaks contact with Lyss, leaving Miles and Larry to watch over her.

(13) Gigafreak > Lyss, still barely a teenager, approaches the government for employment as a secret agent herself, so that she may search for the closest family she can remember for the past several years of her life.

(13) Gigafreak > Since this would enable her to become more self sufficient and allow them to protect her more directly, they agree. After rigorous training, she would join Hobocop in service to the nation as his partner.

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Ah, to clarify.

Chinami isn't Manfred's heir-to-be... she's his intended. After deciding that Franziska was an imperfect spawn, he decided to seek out another, more suitably powerful individual with whom he could sire a new heir to his throne. Thus, he contacts Chinami, who is of the gifted Fey line. This propels Chinami into conspiring to kill all the other Fey women, so as to have the Fey power all to herself, Highlander style.

It's surmised that because of her family's connection to von Karma, Lyss may possess some kind of key to enter Manfred's Super Dimension Fortress, which will be important later on when Super Makoto faces the Emperor.

EDIT: RE: Sami
There's a span of 8 years between the Bolginia Incident and Super Makoto, so there's enough time for all those events to happen.

My question now is... when does Kurain explode?

Spoiler: Chinami vs Maya: HIGHLANDER STYLE
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This is the draft I currently have for Phoenix Wright aka HoboCop. Please note that it affects the stories for Lyss, Chinami, Maya, Kirihito, Manfred... Please read, review, comment and critique before I can post it to the website.
Spoiler: Profile for Phoenix Wright - FIRST DRAFT
Name/Super Name: Phoenix Wright / HoboCop
AGHO: 33, Male, 176cm, Hobo
Blurb: A retired special ops agent for the military whose body has been cybernetically altered to continue the fight for justice.

Personality: Phoenix has razor wit and streetsmarts that has served him well throughout his colorful career. His misfortunes and guilt weigh heavily on him, and he has become somewhat embittered over the years. Although his moral compass and "nice-guy" demeanor have suffered, he still deeply cares about the people closest to him.

Powers/Skills: Phoenix has plenty of military experience with firearms and other weaponry, and since his reconstruction as Hobocop he has gained significant strength, agility, and resilience. His partially-mechanical body also houses some useful tools (e.g. rocket boosters, grappling hooks, helicopter, a toaster... yes, a toaster). Phoenix is also adept at riding bicycles, and can attain very high speeds with his ENERGY LEGS. His resourcefulness and endurance allow him to survive in the urban jungle for long periods of time, and his familiarity with the city lets him move quickly and quietly - the perfect hobo.

Random Facts: Phoenix continues his clandestine investigation into the evil Chinami and the whereabouts of his wife, Maya.
Phoenix was the legal guardian of Lyss Enning.

Friends, Family, Foes: He is married to Maya Fey, who was pregnant with his child before her disappearance. He used to work with her older sister, Mia Fey, in a military spec ops unit, alongside Marvin Grossberg and Souryuu Kaminogi, who now hunts him as Shadow Cell. Though he may or may not know it, Phoenix's life after Bolginia was sabotaged by his jealous friend Kirihito Garyuu, another defense attorney. He maintains a working relationship with Miles, now the Edge, and maintains contact with his higher-ups through his assigned liaison, Agent Vigidis.

History and Background: Phoenix Wright grew up with his friends Larry Butz and Miles Edgeworth, and went attended law school with Miles. He became close with Maya Fey, but soon left to join the military, serving alongside her sister, Mia. He became part of a special ops unit, with Marvin Grossberg, Souryuu Kaminogi, and Mia. Before deploying on a mission in Bolginia, Phoenix was covertly contacted by a "Doctor Enning," who claimed to have information on the mysterious woman, Chinami, who was the target of this operation. Enning entrusted him with the knowledge he had gained about what Chinami was doing, and asked if he would help protect his family once he returned. Phoenix agreed.
One cataclysmic scuffle later, Phoenix had lost track of Chinami, and Mia was dead. He was severely injured and lost some mobility in one leg and both arms. The mysterious circumstances of the operation's failure led a military tribunal to convict Kaminogi, but Kaminogi believed Phoenix had somehow betrayed them and he vowed revenge even as he was dragged away to prison. Before retiring from active duty, Phoenix informed his superiors about Enning, and to his horror discovered that the man, named Chris Enning, and his family had all been murdered, save for his daughter, Lyss. Phoenix found the knowledge passed to him had been wiped from Lyss' mind, and thus somehow she was spared. Phoenix requested that Lyss be placed in an apartment near his home and kept under surveillance, with himself being the only authorized person to move her until further notice.
Phoenix despondently returned to civilian life with Maya, resuming his education in law and pursuing a new career as a defense attorney. It was at this time he befriended Kirihito Garyuu, an experienced defense attorney. In the years following Bolginia, he and Maya regularly checked up on Lyss, as did Miles and Larry, but she never went anywhere outside of her safehouse without Phoenix's supervision. All the while, Phoenix quietly made his own investigation into Chinami, her background, and connections, using his old resources from his military days.
Maya was soon with child, and Phoenix was a fully licensed attorney, taking on difficult cases and turning them around to reveal the truth. All was well, until his friend, Kirihito, became extremely jealous when Phoenix "snatched" a star case away from him. Kirihito made careful plans to deconstruct Phoenix's life - he discovered Phoenix's research on Chinami, and decided to present her photos to Maya, hinting at the possibility Phoenix was cheating on her. Shocked, Maya disappeared soon after, still pregnant, leaving no traces except for a farewell note.
Even then, however, Kirihito was not satisfied. He arranged to have Phoenix disbarred in a humiliating manner, by sabotaging one of his high-profile cases and placing a forged piece of evidence in Phoenix's possession. When Phoenix used the faulty evidence, he lost his badge and was out of a job. Kirihito was satisfied and the two slowly parted ways, while Phoenix's other friends could only watch as he slipped into a state of disrepair, and eventually homelessness. He disappeared from public view completely - not even the young Lyss, now a teenager, heard any word from him.
At this lowest point in his life, Phoenix was approached once again by the government, who offered to reconstruct his body using cybernetic modifications and replacements, in exchange for his reinstatement as a spec ops agent, this time working solo. Phoenix agreed, and was reborn as HoboCop, the urban defender. Much to his surprise, a familiar-looking Agent Vigidis was assigned as his liaison - the grown Lyss Enning, whom he had sworn to protect so many years before.


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...I....I....I'm entirely speechless.

I just went through all thirteen pages of this thread, and my head just might EXPLODE.
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Wait, what's Chinami's role in this / powers? She came out of nowhere >.>
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@Ryou: Should we be celebrating about that or what? :hyde:

Hey gang, I haven't been here for a while. Don't worry, I have been keeping up-to-date on whatever's been happening though, more or less. (Underinformed and in charge, I feel so competant.)

Not really related to current events, but I drewed a pisshur - see if you can figure out what everything means, if you dare.
(...damnit, it got resized something horrible. I hadn't realized that.)

Chinami? Well, as far as I know, she messedup the mission in Wingding-land and that's why Hobocop is mechanized, Kami was banished, and Mia died.
Came out of nowhere? Sure why not, I don't think so.

Tangibly related to Urami and has nothing to do with the main plot: It's been brought up in the Paintchat that there might be a side ep when Urami either messes up a spell or has one get out of control, and everyone gets turned into PWPokiemans.
Like I said, side ep, nothing really important happens, just thought I'd mention it because I don't think it has yet here.
And it tickles me something awful and I love it so. :B
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Don't worry, chap, there's more where that came from.

:that-b-word: On Chinami
I'm not sure what the specifics are for Chinami's powers - right now she's just a general "lol psychotic psychic." Whatever it is, it makes her dangerous enough to have some clout in the criminal underworld, such that the guv'mint takes notice and sends Phoenix et al after her. When I think of her, I recall the scene in the movie Stargate where Ra uses the "Power Glove" to fry a dude's brain.

Chinami has, however, been contacted by Emperor von Karma, and informed that she has been chosen for a very special purpose - that of becoming Empress and siring a new, superpowerful and "perfect" heir. How can she say no? In order to accomplish this, however, she must destroy the rest of the Fey women that share the power of her bloodline, and only then will she be ready to ascend to the throne. (Why doesn't Manfred go in and just take what he needs? Call it a test of her true power, if you will.)

It's surmised that Chinami met with Phoenix in Bolginia and liquored him up to get information about the operation there, resulting in Mia's death. We haven't hammered out the details for what the Bolginia Incident quite yet, but we do have a draft - see Trilroy's post. Trilroy's first draft has some implicated Phoenix->Mia, but with the current version of Phoenix's history (married to Maya) maybe he's just extremely depressed at being so far away from home, while Souryuu and his mentor, Mia, get to have happy funtime. If it is true that she somehow manipulated Phoenix, then Kirihito's allegations of infidelity might have more ground than we thought...

Perhaps Chinami used her powers to disguise herself as Maya, once Phoenix's senses were dulled enough? Hmhm.

:uramidn: On Urami
Yeah, not too much on Urami right now, but we're all in agreement that she serves some type of demonic, otherworldly force. It's unknown what these "Dark Gods" are up to or if they're related to anyone else in the universe right now.
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Phoenix Wright has been crammed into Kirihito's history.
Spoiler: LONGHISTORY IS LOOONG
Kirihito's first appearance in the Super Makoto saga was nine years prior to it. 10-year-old Makoto had a peculiar manifestation of her powers that led her to be held as a suspect for murder, despite Doburoku's protests. Kirihito ended up being the lawyer who would defend her in that case. Before the trial, he gave his usual lecture about how important it was for her to testify correctly… But Makoto was too wrapped up in her drawing to even bother listening to him. With every “No, I don’t understand, Mr. Garyuu” and “What does that mean, Mr. Garyuu?” Kirihito felt his patience growing thinner and thinner. The innocence and ignorance of the child in front of him grated on his nerves, especially considering that he was nursing some pesky mental gripes that Makoto didn’t even know existed. Not knowing of jealousy, rage, or even the risk of death, he could feel himself going over the edge, even with his plastered smile… when he reached the end of his lecture and asked if Makoto finally understood anything, her blank stare finally blew the fuse. He completely lost his cool and started yelling at Makoto about her inability to pay attention and how it could kill her, scaring Makoto even further into her drawing: none other than Kirihito as a woman. She quickly signed her name as was her custom, and… Kirihito transformed. He continued to rant and rave for a little while longer until he noticed this sudden change and became even more furious… He had to cut himself off when Makoto started bawling and frantically erasing her picture. Kirihito had no choice but to calm down for the poor girl, and when he finally did, she got to erasing her signature… and he transformed back. Thankfully, Makoto testified "correctly," and was acquitted. Whether Kirihito knew it or not, this incident was the first ever major manifestation of Sadistress.

Later that day, Kirihito got into an argument with his kid brother Kyouya and transformed into the woman from before until his negative energy drained away. When this happened several more times with other people, Kirihito put two and two together: whenever his negative impulses reached a peak, he would transform into Makoto's creation made in innocence... something he resented and would resent for years to come. Were he to ever meet her again, he would let her creation out and teach her a lesson about the nature of evil... [Is that out of place? His grudge should be mentioned at some point.]The only way out of this he saw was to find someone who wouldn't activate his negative impulses, and who would be able to handle his new form when she came out. However, events wouldn't get better so quickly. In fact, they would just get worse...

About 5 years before Super Makoto, Kirihito befriended Phoenix Wright, who had recently retired from active duty in his special ops unit and had become a lawyer to support his family. […This sounds awkward no matter how I write it.] Their friendship went swimmingly… until Phoenix took a high-profile case that Kirihito wanted. In Kirihito's eyes, Phoenix had "stolen" his one opportunity for a major career boost. This act served as the spark that caused Kirihito's latent rage and jealousy to erupt yet again, only even more severely than with Makoto. He became so driven by this jealousy that he actually went as far as to destroy Phoenix’s life from the ground up. Kirihito’s first idea came when he discovered Wright’s investigation of Chinami. He showed Phoenix’s close friend and supporter Maya these photos, and twisted the story so as to hint that Phoenix may have been conspiring with Chinami to wipe out the Feys. Shocked at this new “revelation” and fearing for the future of her clan, Maya left Phoenix with little more than a farewell letter... mentioning that a WOMAN had told her of his plans. To add insult to injury, Kirihito slipped Phoenix a piece of forged evidence. Phoenix was caught and promptly disbarred. He didn’t suspect Kirihito at all. As Phoenix sank lower and lower, the two grew further apart, then eventually went separate ways.

Roughly 3 years before Super Makoto, Kirihito found what he thought would be a bit of relief in his new student: trainee lawyer Housuke Odoroki. Kirihito thought that training someone would provide enough positive energy to keep Sadistress down at least till he got home, and he had faith that Housuke would be strong enough to take Sadistress's bullying should she appear- or at least satisfy her enough to prevent a worst-case scenario. Unfortunately, Odoroki proved inept at all of those tasks. Sadistress actually began to go out of control from the sheer INFLUX of negative energy from Kirihito's impatience and his envy of Housuke's fresh, eager attitude. As Kiri became more twisted with negative energy, the rather tame gentlewoman Makoto had drawn slowly began to warp and pervert into her current form... Kirihito dubbed her Sadistress for her new mannerisms and appearance. With the appearance of Sadistress, any hopes of Housuke helping Kirihito cope with his problems were shot... especially with Housuke turning into Apollo Justice to stop Sadi's rampages. Oddly enough, these rampages came from Housuke not letting Sadistress release her energy on him. Their partnership was over.

While he was tutoring Housuke, Kirihito met Shannon Vane. After a little mental prodding from Sadistress, he introduced himself to her... and the foundation for what was probably Kirihito's most important relationship was laid. [Needs more?] As their courtship progressed, he found that Shannon affected him in more ways than making Sadistress speak to him as his libido. [Oh, come on, was that really necessary? XD] The way Shannon reciprocated his affection soothed him- and from this he realized he might have finally found a "cure" for Sadistress in Shannon's love. Because of this, he fell so in love with her that all the positives of staying with her seemed to far outweigh anything else. Not long after this realization, Kirihito proposed to Shannon, and she readily accepted. However, he had not yet told her about Sadistress...

All of Kirihito's beautiful plans went to pieces about a year prior to Super Makoto, when he came home as Sadistress after Shannon had just come looking for him. Not only did Shannon find out sooner than planned, but neither side was prepared for the sudden turn of events. Shannon decided that as much as she loved Kirihito, she couldn't marry a man who would transform into "THAT" on a mood swing- she just wasn't ready to help him cope with his issues. With that, Shannon gave Kirihito her engagement ring and left him to stew in his grief... And left Sadistress to swell in fury at another failure, amplified by how close success was.

[Next: Does this need time markers? ie. "X years before Super Makoto..."]


EDIT: Changed Maya's status from Phoenix's wife to his close friend. That seems to be the direction we're going in...

Edit 2: I put a YearStamp on Kirihito meeting Apollo and Shannon. It's more or less the only bit that's set in stone chronologically... the other stuff is left nice and time-ambiguous in case something gets jacked up 8D Several years can be more or less any amount of time we need, and Makoto's event has NO mention of when it occurs. Funfunfunfun. HA HA IT'S LATE AT NIGHT AND I'M LOONIER THAN A HALF MOON GOON 8DDDDD 2:38 AM WHOOOOOOOOOOO

Edit 3: Fixed to fit the new timeline.

And my two cents on some other things:

1. The PWPokie Episode: I was thinking that Urami healed her wounds and returned to SuMako's dimension/world in order to get revenge on the person who defeated her (...Sadistress), so Kirihito and Shannon get Poke'D/10 first... or for some other reason if that's pulling it too much to the characters I'm responsible for. So, yah. There's a little something.

2. Urami: I was thinking that Urami set out from her world in order to learn if humans really were as weak as her demonic brethren said they were. Her studies include the emotions and reactions of humans... and their responses to certain types of magic (see: Zenitora?). Unfortunately (?), she ends up convinced that her fellow dark spirits were right.

Spoiler: Shannon's Profile with minor fixies
Shannon Vane met Kirihito Garyuu roughly two and a half years before Super Makoto. Drawn in by his gentlemanly demeanor and quite surprised that someone like him would go out of his way to talk to her, Shannon developed feelings for Kirihito... And it wasn't long before their love became mutual. After about 2 years of courtship, Kirihito proposed to Shannon, and the two were engaged to be married… until Shannon met Sadistress. A year before Super Makoto, Shannon stopped by Kirihito’s house one day to find that he wasn’t there. Shortly after, Sadistress- not Kirihito- returned from a particularly unpleasant night out. Sadistress was her usual rotten self until Kirihito broke through and told Shannon everything about Sadistress he had been hiding from her. Shannon decided that she couldn’t marry him unless he got rid of his rather objectionable alter-ego. When he told her he couldn’t, the engagement (though not their love) was off… she just didn’t see herself as ready to help him with his problems. When she stormed out, she met Urami Shikabane, who had been spying on the now-separated couple during their argument. Deceived into thinking Sadistress was an evil spirit by Urami, Shannon now studies magic with the mysterious witch with intent to learn how to exorcise the “demon.”
Edit: Yearstamps and some fleshing out. ...Does this get too specific? >>; Also, this was edited from the draft I saved, so Bee's edits aren't in this version. X_X
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SUPERVILLAIN: REPAST
Repast means "to feast." In his demon form, Matt Engarde can do that exceedingly well. Blessed with unnatural strength and agility, he can leap through the air such that he doesn't even need a second wing. His right arm is the strongest part of his body, armored and able to rip through most materials. The horns on his head let him sense the life energy of nearby beings, which he feeds upon. Needless to say, Shoe is quite pleased with his little experiment.

Design Note: Repast's form mimicks the Nickel Samurai costume. The original idea for the villain name came from a little word association. Engarde -> Riposte -> Repast


I can't tell you how much love this is... All of it.. Specially Matt.. seriously people.. epic fanfic would be teh awesome. XD
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Chinami: I demand she have fire powers.
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I think psychic abilities in addition to the fire, perhaps given by spirits, would make sense.
And POISON 8B

Her parasol could be some sort of defensive device--hexxed to resist magic attacks, or made of a solid type of metal, something like that. She's gotta be pretty frail physically so I'm sure she's got some defensive mechanism something.

Also, I'm liking what you guys have as her story and don't have much to contribute to it except: What happens to Morgan and Ayame?

My current inactivity: Eeps, my apologies, I haven't posted much and am not entirely caught up, though I have the gist of things and have been in the paintchat >< I have no excuse worth much so I'll refrain.

PhoenixMaya: ....8/ I still object to putting SOLIDIFIED pairings in a large group project. Hinted, fine. Set in stone, no.
Makita is generally agreed to by the public so it's fine. It adds a lot to the story and to both of the characters' roles.
Something like PhoenixMaya though? I'm not sure what exactly you guys are aiming at by putting it in. As far as I can tell there's no significant enough change to the plot or characterization. It doesn't seem to serve any purpose and to be honest it doesn't make sense.

...But once again, I'm speaking up because I'm assuming there's someone else who disagrees as well. If I'm really the only one then I guess my recent inactivity means my vote doesn't count against the majority's.

Ryshiii: Glad you like XD Aha, a fanfiction's not even comprehensible right now considering how much planning we still need to do. Fanfiction/RPing would be great though :D
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Well, here are my two cents.

Regardless of the AU aspect, the canon characters are still supposed to be grounded in their canon personalities, right? I think P/M, considering the complex relationship they have in canon and it's rather non-romantic implications, would take a lot of work to make it seem in character for either characters to be in a romantic relationship at any point. Simply putting it in there as a matter of fact rings false to me, since my first reaction to hearing Phoenix knocked Maya up isn't "oh, okay", but "huh-WHA?"

I realize that this is probably a way to try to get Maya into the plot, but I've also noticed a pattern of most of the women in this AU have definite romantic partners, so it might be nice to ease back on that a tad--especially since Maya is an interesting character in her own right, and I would hate to have what could be her own personal story be reduced to "she's carrying PHOENIX'S child and mysteriously disappeared from PHOENIX'S life". That makes it more about what she was to him than herself as a character.
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My two cents which won't really go anywhere:
I don't like the idea of Nick/Maya, to be perfectly honest. The pairing in and of itself is fine, but in SMako where there's drama, betrayal, deciept...I don't think it's going to work really.

I like the idea of her being master in Kurain better, and maybe she disappeared when Chinami targets the Feys; Perhaps there is something Chinami wants that is akin to the magatama, and Maya disappears with it in hopes of protecting Pearl at the very least.

She could also show up later and have a different appearance than Phoenix remembers, and have a sort of...reunion of sorts.

But uhm yeah. That probably won't go anywhere but...-shrug-
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Here's how I see the issue:

I was never really too keen on Maya having Phoenix's kid... however, that doesn't mean that the two can't be close. The removal of Maya from Phoenix's life (for example, by Kirihito in my ridiculously long history up there) ought to be significant enough to put a major dent in it. As I see it, she's Phoenix's very close friend and supporter, and probably one of the only people like that Phoenix has after Bolginia. After his only real friend is out of the picture... there's reason for depression there.

Why she leaves can be a combination of Kirihito's smooth criminal-ing and her hearing tales of an assassin who plans to destroy the Fey clan... (this, of course, is Chinami, but she doesn't know that at first). And maybe, to make matters worse, she puts two and two together and thinks Phoenix is dating Chinami so that he can HELP Chinami destroy the Feys. From there, it's probably all about defending what's left of the clan.

On an unrelated note, I've got a really weird question that I'll spit out now before I forget: What medium will SuMako be in when it's finished? I mean, will it be a comic book, a fanfic, or something else?

And on another unrelated note: Bee, can I ask that you not put Kirihito's history up until we get this Phoenix/Maya issue sorted out? Depending on what we decide I may have to do some editing.
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Hey, that'll work. :redd: 9 times out of 10 I'm just spewing what comes to mind. I guess it is unnecessary to enforce the "unable to protect people closest to him" bit. That's really the gist I was aiming for (and perhaps overshot).

So... while we're at it, what is Maya's story, then? What exactly is the gift of the Fey bloodline? Keep in mind that if Chinami has PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS itty bitty living space that they would have to manifest in Maya and Pearl as well.

...Huh, I hadn't thought about that when I was designing Pink Princess. Ruh roh. 8\

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Taking the "Magatama" concept a little far here, but I think it's a good way to hook them all together. Each piece of the Magatama represents an aspect of the Fey's full power, when united, a Fey can use the complete Magatama to channel her full strength.
I know the colors are sort of futzed if you want to go with green=courage and blue=wisdom, but I'm going by the in-game colors for each of their Magatamas (except in Chinami's case). Speaking of which, perhaps Chinami got her Magatama from Mia? Then that would mean her Magatama ought to be yellow or silver... but red suits Chinami so well. |D
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Spoiler: Souryuu and Sakai, sitting in a bar, playing P-O-K-E-R
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New draft of Phoenix's history with minor edits to change Maya's role. Copacetic?
Spoiler: Phoenix History with Minor Adjustments
History and Background: Phoenix Wright grew up with his friends Larry Butz and Miles Edgeworth, and went attended law school with Miles. He became close with Maya Fey, but soon left to join the military, serving alongside her sister, Mia. He became part of a special ops unit, with Marvin Grossberg, Souryuu Kaminogi, and Mia. Before deploying on a mission in Bolginia, Phoenix was covertly contacted by a "Doctor Enning," who claimed to have information on the mysterious woman, Chinami, who was the target of this operation. Enning entrusted him with the knowledge he had gained about what Chinami was doing, and asked if he would help protect his family once he returned. Phoenix agreed.
One cataclysmic scuffle later, Phoenix had lost track of Chinami, and Mia was dead. He was severely injured and lost some mobility in one leg and both arms. The mysterious circumstances of the operation's failure led a military tribunal to convict Kaminogi, but Kaminogi believed Phoenix had somehow betrayed them and he vowed revenge even as he was dragged away to prison. Before retiring from active duty, Phoenix informed his superiors about Enning, and to his horror discovered that the man, named Chris Enning, and his family had all been murdered, save for his daughter, Lyss. Phoenix found the knowledge passed to him had been wiped from Lyss' mind, and thus somehow she was spared. Phoenix requested that Lyss be placed in an apartment near his home and kept under surveillance, with himself being the only authorized person to move her until further notice.
Phoenix despondently returned to civilian life, resuming his education in law and pursuing a new career as a defense attorney. It was at this time he befriended Kirihito Garyuu, an experienced defense attorney. In the years following Bolginia, regularly checked up on Lyss, as did Miles and Larry, but she never went anywhere outside of her safehouse without Phoenix's supervision. All the while, Phoenix quietly made his own investigation into Chinami, her background, and connections, using his old resources from his military days.
Phoenix was soon a fully licensed attorney, taking on difficult cases and turning them around to reveal the truth. All was well, until his friend, Kirihito, became extremely jealous when Phoenix "snatched" a star case away from him. Kirihito made careful plans to deconstruct Phoenix's life - he discovered Phoenix's research on Chinami, and decided to present her photos to Maya, hoping to scare her away with news of his cloak-and-dagger nature. Maya disappeared soon after.

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Remember that idea we had for Apollo Justice using magic powers and items from Greek mythology? Well, here is one concept - the Wings of Pegasus, granting him the power of flight. Or maybe he should just use Hermes' sandals... there are different versions of Perseus' legend, in one he rides Pegasus in the other he has the winged sandals. Either way, flight. Yeah.
Now if he uses a bow and arrows we could call him Kid Icarus. On the other hand, he could use that Golden Fleece for a coat right about now...
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TIMELINE CLARIFICATIONS
As of the evening of July 28, 2007, this is the model adopted.
Spoiler: Super Makoto Timeline Rough Draft
Super Makoto -13yrs
  • Makoto leaves Pocket Dimension at 6 yrs old.
  • Makoto's appearance in the Main Dimension results in her being involved in a trial, Kirihito defends her and is transformed into Sadistress.
  • A young Takita befriends Makoto.
Super Makoto -8yrs
  • Makoto is 11 yrs old.
  • Bolginia Incident: Mia dies, Kaminogi exiled, Phoenix injured.
Super Makoto -7yrs to -1yrs
  • (?)Chinami attacks Kurain, Pearl rescued by Steel Samurai.
  • Phoenix takes care of Lyss Enning.
  • Phoenix becomes an attorney and befriends Kirihito. Kirihito drives away Maya and destroys Phoenix's career.
  • Phoenix disappears.
  • Lyss becomes Agent Vigidis.
  • Phoenix becomes HoboCop.
  • (?)Makoto/Takita/Minami teenage triangle, one of Makoto's big developments to overcome her shyness
Super Makoto 0yrs

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Oh dang, THAT monster I bugged out about yesterday. XD Yes, unfortunately, this means I can't get any work done after 2:00 AM. I might get a second wind, but it renders me unable to concentrate on ANYTHING and unable to speak in anything but nonsensical fragments. Just ask Urby, Gigafreak, or MSOB, they're WITNESSES. 8D This means that Sadistress's physical form came before Kirihito took down Phoenix, and Makoto's appearance is the new "first major unsettlement"... The only real problem I have with this (other than that I'm lazy >:D) is... a 6-year-old accused of murder? Maybe she ought to be a witness instead? O_o And also, Kirihito is a bit too young if the trial was 13 years ago... he's only 19. Can we bump that up maybe 5 years (9 years before SuMako: Makoto is 10, Kirihito is 24. Makes more sense to me...)? Also, the reason Makoto's event now comes before Bolginia is to keep Makoto from being too old when the trial occurs, right? And to leave plenty of room for Makoto's relationship with Takita to develop as well, right? Left? Once this business is okay'd, I can make the semi-definitive edit to Kirihito's history. Semi-definitive because... well... what important character is notably missing even a minor role in his backstory? Kyouya/Rocktra. He/She ought to be at least mentioned somewhere (maybe, when Kyouya suddenly becomes Rocktra, the shock adds another stage to Sadistress's transformation?). If I have the opportunity, I'll ask Yuu about it.

HA HA HA I USED MATH IN THIS POST >8D

[Note to self: add a "1 year ago..." yearstamp to when Shannon and Kirihito separate.]
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I don't think anyone's come up with any really deep ideas for Rocktra. Talk about a quandary. :yuusaku:

Also, I think that if Doburoku were protecting Makoto up to at least her trial at age 10, then I can believe that she's maintained the "innocence" that sets Kirihito off. The moment Doburoku dies is when Makoto has to face the world and learn about it.
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Okay, so here's what I'm seeing:

Spoiler: Timelinezors
-13 years:
Makoto is sent out of the pocket dimension at age 6. She is adopted by Doburoku, who keeps her fairly sheltered. She befriends Takita.
-9 years:
On one of her rare excursions outside with Doburoku, 10-year old Makoto has a bizarre random manifestation of her powers that leads her to be accused of murder despite Doburoku's protests. 24-year-old defense attorney with issues Kirihito Garyuu is assigned to defend her. Sadistress is given physical form, but she looks quite mild-mannered compared to her current incarnation.
-8 years:
Bolginia. LAWLZ TALK ABOUT CONCISE AND TO THE POINT
-7 to -1 year(s):
...More or less everything Bee said.


I'm going to patch up Kiri's history again. I'll edit this post with a head's-up once I finish.

...And done. *whew*
Bee, when you get the chance, could you please webmonkey the edited histories? I think these versions are good enough for now. Thanks in advance.
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Whoa, what's with the graphic Friskadeath?

Also, can you guys stop with the super-tiny text? It's sort of a pain to read >.>
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SNAG
I realize that Kyouya/Rocktra doesn't have a really solid background/history/reason for BEING. Can anyone recall any tidbits about Kyouya from GS4 that might hint as to his motivations as a prosecutor, or even as a musician? He feels like such an empty, vapid character these days, especially when he's so accessory to Kirihito/Sadistress.

The same goes for Apollo Justice. As I understand it, he does get "cast aside" a bit in GS4, but that doesn't mean we can't somehow honor his place in the universe. Right now he's one of the biggest gimmick characters we have, but also one of the closest to my heart as the second/third character created for Super Makoto (and I imagine others love him as well).

So... does anyone have any ideas on these two? Somehow I don't see Kyouya teaming up with his bro for no good reason (unless he's a crooked and twisted son of a bitch himself), and there's currently no basis for his becoming Rocktra.

Note: In discussion it's been mentioned that Kyouya might have been affected by Makoto's drawing Kirihito as a girl, as they have the exact same hairstyle and other similar features, thus her Power Perfect at that moment might not have distinguished between the two of them.

For Apollo Justice, the only story we have is that his Spartan Blood makes him a descendant of a long line of heroes, alongside with Artemis Justice, his half-sister. I've heard opposition to Yuumi being their mother, but I see no problems with this myself... it would help to give them a plot-hook like that.
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Spoiler: Takita vs Urami = Takita wins?
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Spoiler: Chief writes in her diary
Makoto talks to her Chief plushie about everything that's gone on in the day, rather than writing down a diary. Chief, however, keeps a diary comprised of what she's heard, and other things...
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Spoiler: Sadistress vs April = Every body wins
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Spoiler: REALLY Bad End (Warning: Painful)
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The Black Polish unleashes the darkness in Makoto's soul, and combined with her reality-changing powers becomes the ultimate weapon. Lots of people try to stop it, hero and villain alike, but each one meets an unfortunate fate in the tendrils of Makoto's nightmare. Truly the perfect tool for Emperor von Karma... Whether this is a real event or just a terrifying vision in Makoto's mind as she feels herself being overtaken by the darkness within, I don't know.
Urby suggested a track called Welcome to my Nightmare but had trouble getting it to me... So I looked up the song on YouTube and ended up mistakenly listening to Alice Cooper's Welcome to my Nightmare while making this. The two tracks are different songs, but both seem to suit the piece well.
If you spot all the characters included in this picture, you win... nothing! *Venom!Makoto cackle*

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Epic Music from Urby's eSnips
  • Cradle Song - Soundtrack for the "Dreamscape" aka The Pocket Dimension
  • Gundam Wing: Endless Duel - "Epyon" - Sounds like EPIC BATTLE to me. Possible music for Emperor von Karma's Super Dimension Fortress.
  • Phantasy Star Online - "Image of a Hero" - I don't know what kind of scene or situation she had in mind for this, but boy does it bring back memories. |D Too bad I'll never play another PSO game again because Sonic Team is made of FAIL.
  • 209 - More battle music. Emperor's Fortress again, possibly the escape phase when the whole Super Dimension comes crumbling down and the whole troupe barely runs back to safety in the Main Dimension? Or it could be the "march to the final battle" as well as our heroes speed along on flying mini-jets towards the Super Dimension Fortress, the team whittling away as each one breaks formation or gives themselves up to protect Makoto and make sure she gets into the Fortress.

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This "inspired" piece of writing is almost perfectly timed to the track. Turn it on and start reading, and enjoy.
Spoiler: Listening to 209 made me write this
"Mako, look out!" Matt's turboplane boosted upwards, clipping Makoto's own craft just lightly, sending her into a terrifying spin to the side. A moment later and the arcane missile shooting up from the citadel's defenses would have ripped through her. Takita, however, wouldn't take such rash actions lightly, bumping Matt's turboplane in turn.
"The heck yew think yer doing, ya big bully?!"
"You saw that round! It was aiming right for her!"
"Yer a no good piece of trash! I oughta jump onto that turboplane and give yew the judo chop!"
"I'm on your side, now, Einstein!" A vein pumped on Matt's face, but his arms remained firmly on the control bars of his turboplane.
"Von Karma's guns won't stop shooting at us. Someone has to stop them!" Minuki cried out from the other side of the formation.
"Why don't we send Jekyll and Hyde over here?" Takita was all too glad to volunteer Matt for the job. The action star looked over to Makoto.
"Makoto... do you trust me?"
"I always have, Matt." There was an earnest look in Makoto's eyes as she said those words, the same one Matt had seen on that first date...
"You better take good care of her, Takita, or I'll literally bite your head off!" Matt's turboplane tore apart in the midst of his transformation into Repast, his massive claw reaching downward as he careened towards the cannons some hundreds of feet below. His talons ripped a missile to shreds, and in the midst of the smoke and explosions he was lost from sight. Makoto couldn't stop looking down, hoping to see some sign of him, but she was distracted by a shriek that came from...
"Minuki! No!" Apollo Justice jumped off of his turboplane, acting without thinking as is usual for the brave Spartan. Wings of Daedalus!" His plea to the Olympians resulted in brilliant rays of light shooting out from under his scarlet cape as great, feathery wings formed at his back. Like a great seraphim, he enveloped his half-sister in his strong arms, and soon they too fell to the alien earth below to do battle with the Emperor's minions. Makoto and Takita exchanged worried glances as they realized what was slowly happening to the ersatz band of heroes.
"Incoming volley!" The Eccentrist cried out as his monocle zoomed in on another rising swarm of missiles.
"Like hell I'm going to let them have all the fun!" Sadistress' shrill battle cry filled the air as she dove on her turboplane to meet the oncoming explosives. Her hands left the control bars as she reared back and brought her fists down on the noses of two seperate missiles. Her superhuman strength crashed straight through both and sent them hurtling away. Having let go of her craft, though, she remained in freefall, deflecting missiles all the way down with all the grace of a professional weightlifter - not much. But she enjoyed the show of raw force and energy.
"Wait for me!" Shannon yelped as her transformed husband disappeared into the melee below. The novice witch met with another volley, which she easily decimated with a conjured firestorm and raging bolts of electricity. She paid the destruction no mind as she continued downward, chasing after Sadistress.
"I know we shouldn't be dropping away like this, but I do need both hands to air guitar!" Rocktra chimed in after watching her sister and sister-in-law join the fray. "Rock on, Makoto! Woohoo!" She spun on her heels, letting go of the turboplane and performing a signature stage dive towards the ground below. A melodious cacophony could be heard, accompanied by the syncopated explosions of dangerous warheads that might have reached Makoto had the pink-haired songstress not intervened.
"Mayday! I've been struck! Losing altitude!" Makoto spun her head around, too surprised to say anything as she watched the eloquent Eccentrist waving to her as his smoking turboplane slowly drifted out of formation. "Let this not be farewell, but as the French have it: Au revoir! Kaoru, don't come after me, dear."
"I'm a grown woman, I can take care of you whether you want me to or not." The Moonlight Angel scoffed as she throttled down, bringing her turboplane abreast of her beloved's failing aircraft. She turned and waved. "Good luck, Mako! It was nice knowing you!"
"Damn it! At this rate I'll have to jump ship myself before we even reach the fortress!" Takita grit his teeth as he took his last look at the Moonlight Angel and the Eccentrist floating away.
"At this rate you won't even reach the fortress! You're going too slow." Ema yelled from below. "Fly steady, this might be a little turbulent."
"Hey! What do yew think yer doing to Mako's plane?!"
"It's just a little modification, little man."
"But Ema... your turboplane!" Makoto looked down and gasped as she felt a bit of a bump in her flight.
"Yeah, that's right. I'm lashing mine to yours so you have two sets of boosters to get you there. Miles, try to hold it steady, would you?" She kicked the Edge in the chest, as she was riding on his shoulders as he piloted his own turboplane just below. "I'm going to be riding with Miles here since I'm letting you borrow mine." The wolfman growled in acknowledgement.
"Hey! What's the big idea?" Takita couldn't stop shouting at people as he looked down to see Lyss hammering away at another lashing, just like what Ema was doing with Makoto's plane.
"I'll be staying here with HoboCop once we're done adding the second booster. We can't have Makoto flying away on her own, can we?" Lyss winked and gave a thumbs-up signal. "All set to go, Skye!"
"Dropping out of formation! Good luck, you two!" HoboCop called out as he and the Edge flew low to provide cover.
"That's everyone. That's it. We're dead. We're so dead. We're alive right now, but we're dead." Takita looked around furtively. "And how can you be so damn calm throughout all this?!"
"I'm not, Takita!" Makoto shrieked suddenly. The punk kid shut his trap for once, wincing at the pained look in his lifelong friend's eyes. "I don't know if this is going to work, either."
"Mako! You remember this?" He held out his fist, pinky extended. "Almost ten years ago, I made a promise, and I don't intend to be going back on it any time soon. I'm not going to let anything happen to you!"
"Uh, what do you call this, Takita?" Makoto looked around incredulously at their situation. Indeed, flying across a supernatural dimension on impossible personal glider craft as volleys of high-explosive weaponry streamed towards them was not her idea of "nothing happening" to her.
"I mean nothing dangerous." Takita shook his head, but Makoto only continued to smirk. "Okay, that nothing would hurt you." Makoto tilted her head in confusion again. "Alright, well, you're going to make it out of this one alive, is what I mean!"
"You always make me smile, you know that?" And Makoto smiled. Her turboplane drifted closer towards Takita's, carefully placed so they could reach for each other and hook fingers. "To the end of the world?"
"To the end of the world." They stomped on the yellow overdrive panels on their turboplanes and the added boosters kicked in, leaving their brave comrades behind.

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Hm.
Well since it seems just about everyone sacrifices themselves [XD;?]....

Spoiler: A little note floats up to Makoto
It's a note from Kaoru, no less~ Knowing that no one was going to make it out alive except for Makoto and Takita, she writes down a song she had heard once.

"Mako-chan~
By the time this reaches you....well....You and Takita-san are on your own now, unfortunately. But there something I want to say, in song form.

Why do memories long forgotten
Reflect in your sorrowful eyes?

'An Unvoiceable Love Towards Someone'
Is a story about pretending not to know.

SEA SIDE
Please, as the night wears on, pull us in
To dream dreams we can never have again
Even to an unseen tomorrow I can surely walk
If you are with me... and so,
I look back at the long road behind me.

When we're with friends, I watch you
Even as my heart feels like it'll burst open

SO LONG
The waves ebb and flow today, as always,
Taking your thoughts with them and not coming back
What kind of expression should I put on my face?
Though my heart is breaking
I want time to stop at this moment.

SAY GOOD-BYE
Beyond the horizon
When just a little of the morning sun can be seen
A single story ends.
Being apart from you is for the best.
From now on, I don't want you to cry.


It....was an honor to fight with and for you...my final request is that you take care of yourself. Perhaps we will meet again, one day. Be strong in the final battle, and believe in yourself, as we always have. I'm sorry for the previous misunderstandings between us...but I am glad I got to know you.
Farewell, Makoto Ese.

~Moonlight Angel
Kaoru Yuuka


gjfhsjfhgsjfds so. Will she draw them back to life or are they all gonna stay dead? =O
and as for that note.
Lyrics
And finally, the song. Take a listen. Masami Okui- Monogatari [Story] I think they all would probably sing it too while in battle. Kinda like a swan song deal.
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Makoto has apocalyptic nightmares, complete with farewell notes.

Power Perfect's Potentially Prophetic Polish-Pwnage Premonitions? Preposterous.
Sticks and stones may break my bones...
But a giant mallet will break them faster.
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Who said they die? They just disappear into the smoke and fire and aren't heard from again until the last moment. ;3 It's supposed to be one of those "omg they're dead :larry:" moments for the audience.

I don't think they'd -all- sing it. Besides, by the end of the series Kaoru would be identified as the "singer" of the lot.
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MoronSonOfBoron wrote:
It's supposed to be one of those "omg they're dead :larry:" moments for the audience.


'Course, this has been done so many times that it's only surprising if someone actually does die.

...I nominate Fiddler to take it for the team. =P
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MoronSonOfBoron wrote:
Who said they die? They just disappear into the smoke and fire and aren't heard from again until the last moment. ;3 It's supposed to be one of those "omg they're dead :larry:" moments for the audience.

I don't think they'd -all- sing it. Besides, by the end of the series Kaoru would be identified as the "singer" of the lot.


Why does this remind me of...
Spoiler: LAWLZ TALES OF SYMPHONIA SPOILER 8D
The scenes where everyone sacrifices themselves to the traps so that Lloyd can go rescue Colette and then suddenly pop up JUST when Lloyd has to fight Yggdrasill?
Oh, right, similar dealie. ^^;

And yah, not all of the characters should sing it. Maybe Yuu/Rocktra duet? Hmmm... well, the downfall with EVERYONE singing it is that... not all the characters have pleasant singing voices. (If I had my druthers, there'd be a running gag where every time Sadistress opens her mouth to sing, Rocktra/anybody else just about flips out and runs out of the room in agony. XD)

Either way... *applauds all the pieces of writing* Since we're on the subject of soundtrack + events, I think I'll throw in my 2 cents as well. Here's some music I'd like to see on the SuMako soundtrack:
Happiness in my Hand From Tales of The Abyss. This would probably be used for the more "lovey" moments in the story. Take a listen~
Fighting of the Spirit remix by S.S.H. This song is just so full of win. It's probably best used for some OMGEPICHIGHENERGYBATTLE. Actually, this makes me think of that optional battle I was thinking about... you know how some games have these really tough bosses- or as I like to call them, Beatable Unbeatables? Well, I was thinking there'd be something like that against the Plushies, who have temporarily obtained a human form. Maybe they're guarding some OMGPOWERFUL equipment that was hidden in the Dreamscape until the time was right?

Edit: YAY MOAR MUSIX
Venus Lighthouse From Golden Sun. It sounds just like it was intended for: epic final level-age.
Remembrance MOAR Golden Sun. I think this would be good for when certain people (ie. Makoto, although this could work for some others) are puzzling over their origins.
Meeting the Shogun EVEN MOAR Golden Sun. I think this could be a nice change (...sorta) of pace for the Feys.

I'll add more music as I think of/find it. And chances are I'll be busting out Audacity and pumping out ANOTHER version of Shannon's theme/others, 'cause that's how I operate. XP

Unfortunately, no writing blurbs from me today. I do have something, but it's small and dumb and tries to come off good but is really just ick. Like, there's one or two lines that'll make your inner nitpick do a 4-4 (I know they do that to me X_X). And the ending will also make you implode not just due to your inner nitpick, but because... it bumps the blurb up to a PG-13 rating. X_X So yah. I shut up now.
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