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Do want Holy Trinity.
-shot for biasness towards medical/scientific characters- Especially since Mime is involved :D -SHOT AGAIN-
Although I do have some questions that I think need to be worked out.
1. Why was Mimi a liability to the Holy Trinity? Did Grey just get paranoid and killed her?
2. Are Mimi and Alita bffs (-SHOT-) Or super worst enemies :D? Office conflicts after all.
3. The time that the Holy Trinity is taking in Daryan as a test subject. I suggest about maybe two years before the Borginia Incident (So that would be Makoto -9, right? Because the way it was set up Mimi met Morgan (and essentially became Mime) one year before the Borginia Accident (and the destruction of Kurain, if I'm correct?). Of course the problem there is that Daryan would be only 19/20 present Makoto time and he's suppose to be 24 in AJ C:~ But whatever.
4. Just make sure I understand this: At one point or another Matt becomes a test subject for the Holy Trinity and his mutation powers are designed to have a kill switch, which Alita holds. Did I get it right XD?
5. Miles becomes a test subject for Von Karma's 'Perfect Solider' act. If the Holy Trinity is behind this then we should probably add another member to the Holy Trinity: Ema Skye. She isn't as high up as Grey, Pal, Hotti, Mimi or Alita are/were but according to the back story I heard Ema was somehow involved with Edgeworth's transformation, right?
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Imagine their double dates: Wocky is keeping an eye on Matt to make sure he doesn't do anything dishonorable with Makoto, Alita has the atrocinine killswitch device at the ready in case Matt gets out of control, Matt is doing his best to woo Makoto lest Alita pull the trigger, and Makoto is HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME.
Ilu XD! The hero/heroine must ALWAYS be oblivious until the very last moment <3
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1. The assumed reason was he was afraid she'd do... well, what Alita eventually did to Meraktis. Odd, Hotti's the only one so far who hasn't been threatened by his own assistants.
2. However we want them to be, I think. What sounds more interesting to you? :3
3. The timeline for Hairaiser can be played with still, certainly. Though I gotta ask, why have him start his treatments that late into the timeline? Assuming he's his game age at the start of SMako, he'd be 15 by the time they started if it was only two years before the Borginia incident. It might make more sense for the treatments to end around that time, given that I don't think it'd be a short time he would be treated at Holy Trinity. But if there's a good reason for it, I'm up for shifting events around.
4. Yes. The kill switch being a heavy dose of atrocinine.
5. ... oooh. Interesting idea. I like the sound of it, personally, but I'll leave it to Bee to decide how workable it is.
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2) Alita and Mimi would have been coworkers for a short time, yes. We may have to fudge their ages a little for the SMako timeline (Mimi would be nearly 30 by the original game canon timeline), but I would definitely like to see this go through.
3) Kurain's destruction has been a problematic issue since it defines Pearl's development, and as such I don't think it should be associated with the Borginia Incident. It has no reason to be. What's more is that the Kurain itself has little definition - what was it beforehand, why was it destroyed, and by whom, and how does it tie into Morgan's plans, why Pearl escaped her grasp, and the Steel Samurai's involvement as well (since supposedly he rescued Pearl and has trained her to become the Pink Princess).
So technically, Mimi can meet Morgan any time between Daryan's submittal to research and present SMako time.
4) Yup, Alita holds Matt's leash. She's a little bitch. :>
5) Ema wasn't involved with Edgeworth's transformation directly, but may have had a hand in Repast. Originally the role of mad scientist was given to Luke Atmey, the Eccentrist, but his relatively benign nature compared to the good doctors of Holy Trinity diminishes his candidacy. If Ema still works for Suvari Corp and by extension the Eccentrist, she would have no dealings with Holy Trinity.
It's entirely likely she's worked for both organizations, however. If she's going to be working with the Edge, she will need some working knowledge of Holy Trinity's dealings.
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It was done by Morgan herself, with the help of Dahlia and Iris. Maybe the Borginia Incident might of had some part in it. If Dahlia, after the Borginia Incident, had retreated to some safe place to avoid the authorities for the death of Mia and the smuggling of Cocoons then she would most likely retreat to Kurain Village (her mother is some form of a figure-head there). Although eventually the authorities would find out about Dahlia making it to Kurain (maybe someone rated them out?).
So in order to get away for good she came up with the idea of faking her own death. To do this there would have to be some accident that the authorities/interpol couldn't investigate to a full extent to find that it was a farce. She then came to the conclusion that she had to destroy her surrounding area and burn it up into flames. This way the fire would cover up any signs of her existing life and, given the right disguising, she could make it seem like her corpse was found burned (perhaps she would kill one of the village women or something?). But she couldn't do such an act alone.
That is where Morgan comes in. In exchange for destroying Kurain, and any trace of the life that was Dahlia Hawthorne, Morgan asked Dahlia and Iris to assist her in gathering the three Magatamas. However there was a flaw- one that was caused by an outsider.
Maya Fey had learned of the plan (she probably was around the area and overheard Morgan talking to Dahlia and Iris. She might have not known Dahlia or Iris but if she saw the red Magatama around Dahlia's neck then she would know who killed her sister).
Maya was planning to tell the village elders but by that time Morgan had already murdered them. She knew Pearl, who owned the blue Magatama, would be in some form of danger but not to the extent of being killed (Morgan loved her youngest daughter too much). Time was short and Maya had no choice. She created a phony Magatama and switched it with the one Pearl had. As Morgan, Dahlia and Iris started to burn the village Maya silently escaped sight and fled far away. She didn't know what happened to the other people living in the village but she knew Pearl was safe. Why?
Well my theory on this is that Maya was the one who arranged the Steel Samurai to adopt Pearl after the village's destruction.
Around Makoto -1, Maya met up with the Steel Samurai again to hear on how Pearl is doing. Maya understands that she is more or less being tracked down by Morgan, Dahlia and Iris- and knows that if she is captured with both Pearl and her own Magatama then Morgan would succeed in her plotting (by this time Morgan probably found out that the Magatama she stole from Pearl before she burned down Kurain was actually a fake). She then gave the -real- blue Magatama over to the Steel Samurai, telling him to give it to Pearl and to tell her that it was 'a gift from Mystic Maya'.
Maya still continues to hide to this day, attempting to avoid Dahlia and Iris (who are looking for her) at any costs. She also looks after Pearl in the shadows.
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lol. An amusing idea XD~ But that would be too suspicious I would think -shot-
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... but I don't know if Maya would have any idea how to do that...
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Maya, I'm not— *DVD stuffed into mouth*- - - - -
To go along with Sadistress' revised origins, here's an updated look for her. http://samutoka.deviantart.com/art/SMak ... s-85056881
I'd like feedback and ideas for other possible outfits. This is just a slight modification of her old design. I definitely want to go with kinkier, more detailed and varied outfits for her, and I feel that things like buckles and bow ties are a step in the right direction.
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So I kinda wanna see Kristoph having a duet with himself now. Like...
Sadistress: When the Devil is too busy
Kristoph: And Death's a bit too much
Sadistress: They call me by name you see
Kristoph: For my special touch
Sadistress: To the Gentlemen I'm Miss Fortune
Kristoph: To the Ladies I'm Sir Prize
Sadistress: But call me by any name
Kristoph: Any way it's all the same...
Kristoph: I'm the fly in your soup, I'm the pebble in your shoe
Sadistress: I'm the pea beneath your bed, I'm a bump on every head
Kristoph: I'm the peel on which you slip, I'm a pin in every hip
Sadistress: I'm the thorn in your side, Makes you wriggle and writhe
Sadistress: And it's so easy when you're evil
Kristoph: This is the life, you see, the Devil tips his hat to me
Kristoph: I do it all because I'm evil
Sadistress: And I do it all for free... your tears are all the pay I'll ever need!
And so on and so forth. I bet Sadi has a LOVELY singing voice. :D *snackoo'd*
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Which means any female experiments would have to be post-Hotti. And I don't think that there'd be much time between his leaving and the conclusion of the von Karma arc - in a relative sense, that is. So any female experiments, if they exist at all, would have to be beyond the scope of where I think we should be focusing right now.
Which is why any of my terrible 4 AM ideas of submitting Pie as a new experiment have been thoroughly silenced.
*snackoo'd anyway*
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But we cross that bridge when we come to it! For now, I strongly believe we should keep our focus on the start of SMako to the fall of Von Karma, with some backstory construction where appropriate, since we seem to pretty much have the material we need to work that out.
And I also strongly believe I should be a little more discriminating in which of my wild fangirl ideas I should pitch and which I should just keep to myself, but that doesn't seem to be enough to stop me, sadly.
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Disclaimer: I am extremely uncomfortable discussing this as anything but a joke, because while I personally think it wouldn't be hard to work in, I don't think it's worth risking starting the OC argument again. But this seems as good a time as any (read: 4 AM) to bring up this snag in my thinking and let it get raked by the comb.
I cannot deny that there is an irrational fangirlish part of me that does honestly want to see Pie as a villain. Insect-themed. With an evil thong (but not as evil as Sadi's, of course) and giant wings that make her hard to take seriously (because no matter what, I just can't see her as too much of a SERIOUS BUSINESS villain, and in fact would probably have to have a streak of comic relief). The only thing I am certain about would be communicating with insects; ideas for expanding that which have crossed my mind have included communicating with many other creatures besides just bugs (SUMMON SHARKS), silk manipulation (the problem with this one is that it'd have to be gimped to avoid it becoming overpowered like The Paper's paper manipulation from Read Or Die), and even as I just mentioned being an experiment of post-Hotti Holy Trinity (ENTER THE PIEHEMOTH oh god why do I still think about this terrible idea). Flight might also be a good idea for her, so those wings on her back are not merely tacky decorations. (Also, let's see if I can keep the not-so-witty commentary to myself to cut down on parentheses.)
I wouldn't want her as a sidenote to Hairaiser, as I'm sure most people would be expecting... in fact, she would be someone operating independently from him, only cooperating in situations like perhaps the cocoon hunting, and even then she'd probably be less directly involved than Daryan and Machi. Because, uh, given his unhappy past and abrasive nature, I think Daryan would have too much trust issues to allow a devoted partner in crime, even if it was A Hot Chick Who's Just Here For The Sex; his cooperation with Machi is probably going to be completely reluctant and a result of necessity. It's actually the trust issues that I've been considering the most, because the day he finds out Konrad is Rocktra is just gonna make 'em worse, I imagine. If there's any way that he can work past those issues, it might have to be someone with enough sympathy for the devil to try and help him even if she's gonna get hurt... which, um, is pretty IC for Pie. I worry she's taken on some of my masochistic tendancies. But still, even sympathy and softer interaction would definitely have to be after Pie and Daryan at least had a good chance to fight, both verbally and physically. And plenty of anger after. And even any sappy moments would have to at least have teasing. Because Daryan is a jerk, goddamn it, and even if he has a soft side it's hiding under rough skin and many sharp teeth. I wouldn't be able to fangirl him if I didn't love this about him.
But that, of course, raises the question of where Pie could fit in if she's not just some kind of accessory for Daryan. And that would be... well, as a generic villain? Snarking at the heroes and wasting time with monologues and making short-lived alliances with other villains and possibly aiming for global domination with extremely less successful results than Von Karma? Hey, give me a break, I've been trying NOT to think about this idea and focus my efforts on the canon characters. The only idea I had which gave her a backstory of any kind... well, taking the Wants To Be A European Knight and Connection To Insects a step further, I had the thought cross my mind that she could start as a Neutral, an unwilling agent of Interpol, perhaps controlled by a shock collar or something (... my masochistic tendencies are showing again...) sent in around Sometime After LeTouse Dies Assuming That's In The Plot to try and regain their control of the cocoons (insect whisperer, remember?). Which would make conflicts with Daryan more than just personal at first. Then, probably with the help of a hero who thinks she'll turn good after she's free, she gets released from Interpol's control and turns into another rogue villain. But I haven't put much thought into the idea. Like most of this. Which I wouldn't even be bringing up if it didn't keep crossing my mind despite my best efforts to focus on the canon characters. And because it can't hurt to let the comb go through this, see if there's anything worth salvaging, even if it's for another character entirely.
Okay. I'm done. I don't even know if all of this made sense but-
*gets hit with the whole bag of snackoos*
...
Right. Okay, back to your regularly scheduled SMako discussions.
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I think I'm going to have to brush this aside for now. :)
There's a major contradiction in working with Original Characters, in that 1) they're extraneous and unnecessary if they don't provide deep support and development for the Canon Characters, and 2) they run the risk of being damaging to the story should we choose to work on inserting them into a position that provides such.
Pie (the character) has the issue of 1) Lack of Import, in that you've necessarily avoided the second pitfall, but in doing so made her a throwaway character that is a satellite to primary arcs. Having little to no effect on CCs is, while a worthy and in some eyes noble cause, it also detracts from the necessity for OCs.
And there is a necessity for them.
That said, it is imperative to revisit the other OCs existent in SMako before we consider adding new ones.
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I like the halter-top solution. Combined with the pronounced angles, it makes her look more formal and business-like. Adding ribbons and such to her design makes a great parallel with Makoto's thematic, as well.
Let this be my call for new Sadi concepts. Sadistress needs a new costume design! I want anyone and everyone to submit ideas.
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But I don't mind at all that any consideration of Pie be brushed aside for a later date, or even indefinitely. The OC situation in SMako right now bothers and intimidates me (and I am really not a person who's easily intimidated) because it seems nearly impossible to discuss them at all without treading on dangerous ground. Actually, I'd rather see a more definitive conclusion to the OC arguments before I give Pie any truly serious thought.
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So OCs are okay, but I just don't support the OC/-Insert Char name here- gig. But I don't want to argue about it since I personally respect everyones views and fighting over them would be a waste of time because opinions are always right to the person that makes the opinion.As for Sadi concept: I'm not good with lingerie XD~ You're all on your own with this one.
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The schoolgirl uniform proves it XD -shot-
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Personally, I'm all for it. The ease of editing a wiki makes it a simple task to update old information with new information, and provides our team with a centralized resource for easy reference throughout development. Because every article is linked to others, we can more easily chart out the relations of events and characters.
We'll still have the website, but it will be for archiving our works and presenting "finalized" ideas. Discussion will carry on here in the thread, and in pchat, as it always has, and proposed, workable ideas are shunted to the wiki. Wiki articles that are more or less complete then contribute to the website.
As always, I want to hear opinions from everyone else before going through with this. I need to know that the team will work together on this.
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It's also possible to make it so only registered users can edit, and to only allow approved registrations. So there's little risk of someone outside the project to come and vandalize. Though vandalism on a wiki is actually easy to clean up... the only reason it gets so bad on Wikipedia itself is that it's so large most vandalism goes unnoticed for days.
What does everyone else think?
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You just have to be careful with some wikis, vandalism is always a possibly... because its a wiki. :/ But it is possible to protect some wiki articles, so that only registered people can edit it or admins, etc. With wiki-site's free wikis, you can't change the wiki banner nor can you do a lot of stuff. At least that is what I had noticed.
Isn't there global settings that you can use to 'protect' all articles? Make it so only registered users can edit articles, require admin approval for a registration goes through? That's fairly common, I thought; I know at Bulbapedia, they never allow unregistered users to have editing powers. Vandalism gets bad enough as it is given that it's a large and widely known Pokémon wiki...
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Hi, SJB! It happily amused me to see you jump in like that. Lurk much? :D
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Oh and yes, I did say that there are global settings with wiki-site. But I think you have to do it manually for each article, I think. D:
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Hallo, I am wassamattawityucca and I am a big fan of the project.
I'm currently working on fanart for this project.
Hopefully if you guys like it, I would love to contribute to the costume designs. ^ ^
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Got an art account on DA or tegaki or anything, wassa? I'd love to see your style. :D
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Well... here it is.
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