CR Mafia Archived Dead Thread: Round II-V : Eagle River

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:19 pm

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Wouldn't it be Miles Bond? :yuusaku:

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:56 pm

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Does that mean Franny(Or rather,me) is a Bond girl?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:58 pm

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Nyehehehehe! R_Bond got pwned. 'Tis all going as planned.

I hope you've caught up with the rest of us dead people, Edgey. I must ask: how many of our PM convos were genuine and how many were utter bullshit? :D

Oh, before I forget:

FOR THE LAST DAMN TIME, I'M A DUDE!! >_<

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:01 pm

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Have you always been? 'Cause I could swear...Mm.I might've been hallucinating. :yuusaku:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:03 pm

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So so so! R_Bond! How was it going in there when you ~~left~~ were killed? Did y'all have any more leads? Fill us dead folks in please!

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:06 pm

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It looks like the Boss is angry...

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:29 pm

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BUT I'M THE BOSS

:(

:'(

Y'know.. whoever wins this round, and it doesn't matter who at all, cannot consider this round a fair victory. Until we enforce even stricter rules and a thorough rule of honour...

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:33 pm

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No, you are the Godmother. You give orders to the Boss. :butzthumbs:

I was making a joke off of Velo's new name. XD

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:37 pm

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I figured now would be a good time to change it considering I was getting sick and tired of people calling me Asura; it was a title, people, the username is and has always been Velotix, so call me Velo. n_n

*resists urge to let my superiority complex surface on the internet again*

Now for a guessing game! DahliaXKristoph claimed Cody, Sklarrv is Wendy Oldbag, so who's Phoenix? Who's Penny? For the Townies, who's Sal? (Regy, you're disqualified from this little guessing game. ;) )

Still two Mafians in the game. 12 players alive; 8 townies, 2 wild cards, 2 mafians. This round has been going on for almost a month and it'll be a few more weeks before the end, methinks. The Town has no clue who the remaining Mafians are; Penny might be onto something though. However, they'll overlook the most dangerous player by a mile, guaranteed.

FYI, Townie players, the Steel Samurai died along with FerdieLance, as some of you suspected. ^_^

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:25 pm

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Hehe, Bond Girl... :franny:

Hey Regy! Don't let that Asura/Boss/Tix chick mislead you; we're on the verge of winning this thing! With only two Mafia members left and two unconfirmed roles, I'd give the townie two days tops before they completely demolish the Mafia. Because of our temporary votes on Dahlia, we were able to find our last source of info, sealing the deal once and for all. I gotta hand it to Sklarvv, she took over just after your death and found all the townies in a matter of a day. I'm a bit worried, though. My death contradicts the facts of what transpired during the night; I'm concerned that there might be another Asura in our community. That shouldn't be much of a problem much longer though; I was able to squeeze off a PM to my contact just before I died.

So, to summarize, we've found all the wildcards, townies, and townies with special roles, so now there's only two unconfirmed roles left. There's a possibility of a mole, but with a network as huge as ours, it's only a matter of time before a mole is located and eliminated.

@Tix: I'd say my PMs were about 50/50. You know what gave you away? Your woop. :think:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:44 pm

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I'll remember this. :)

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:49 pm

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Boss Velotix wrote:

The Town has no clue who the remaining Mafians are;Penny might be onto something though.

Who d'ya mean?Real one,or me?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:50 pm

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Penny Nichols the role, not the forum user. :P

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:53 pm

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Kthxbai. goes off to sulk- No one appreciates my genius. :larry:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:21 am

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MWAHAHAHA! You'll never guess who Penny is! NEVER!

Unless of course you just start listing names of the handful of people whose roles aren't publicly known... in which case you'll probably guess it fairly quickly. But even in death... I ain't talkin'!

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:31 am

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Poor Tix. I could name off all the special roles if I wanted, and so could the rest of the townies.

Penny, it might've been a good idea to try to come into contact with us. We would've made a good team, you and I. :think:

Ethed, I've been meaning to ask this. What happened that got you ticked off to the point of dropping out?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:43 am

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R_Bond wrote:

Poor Tix. I could name off all the special roles if I wanted, and so could the rest of the townies.

Penny, it might've been a good idea to try to come into contact with us. We would've made a good team, you and I. :think:

Ethed, I've been meaning to ask this. What happened that got you ticked off to the point of dropping out?

Gyakuten Phoenix taking a screenshot of the PM he got from MSOB was the last straw, but there was apparently a lot of crooked play in this game. That and the Mafia had basically no chance anyway since the Townies got about a dozen investigations every night. :yuusaku:

Penny is either Comfortably Numb, Rebel Vanguard, or Fishstick Lady. I'm guessing Rebel.

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:54 am

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And the Mafia had an inside man who didn't do much, and several chances to eliminate key townies (like me) and didn't take them, instead trying to use us to get more information, for all the good that did you. And screencapping is nothing new; it's been around since Round 1. Dropping out because of that is stupid.

And I can tell you that none of those people are Penny.

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:55 am

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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:

Gyakuten Phoenix taking a screenshot of the PM he got from MSOB was the last straw, but there was apparently a lot of crooked play in this game. That and the Mafia had basically no chance anyway since the Townies got about a dozen investigations every night. :yuusaku:

Penny is either Comfortably Numb, Rebel Vanguard, or Fishstick Lady. I'm guessing Rebel.

The thing about the investigations is something I noticed myself. We had SO much information flying around that it was not surprising that we soon began to rapidly chip away at the Mafia's ranks. I'm sure that will be remedied in the future?

As for all this crooked play, I still have yet to see another example than the one presented earlier in this thread (i.e. Chihiro). GP's was, it appears at least, an honest misunderstanding of what was deemed acceptable. One must take into account that it had been specifically stated that screenshots were NOT against the rules, and he didn't realize the amount of trouble it would cause.

But enough on that. I'll not debate the overall fairness of this round, especially as it seems that there must have been something else I don't know about to make people so upset.

As for your Penny guesses... would it be a bad sign if I started laughing maniacally right about now?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:09 am

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Laugh away, Regy. I am. :gant:

The Mafia was in a great position at the start of the round. Everyone in the Mafia knew each other, and they even had an inside man who knew quite a few key Townie players. If the Mafia had chosen to remove those sources of information like they should have, the Townies would've have been lost without any information to guide them. Instead, Asura convinced the Godmother to spare key players such as Oldbag and me so he could attempt to try to learn everything we knew. Because of Asura we were able to come together and share information between investigators and wildcards, thus creating our Townie network. If Asura hadn't done what he did, investigators and information sources would've been killed off a lot sooner and the Mafia would be in a better position than they are now.

Thanks Velo! :edgy:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:21 am

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"The Mafia was in a great position at the start of the round?" That's bullshit and you know it. There were 20 non-Mafia at the start of the game and SIX roles that could either investigate or received rumors, which are just random investigations. Even if the Mafia knew exactly what everyone's roles were and killed one of the information sources every night, we STILL wouldn't have killed them all yet.

And I forgot to mention someone as a potential Penny.

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:29 am

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Is it? You didn't have to kill them all to have a stronger grip on the townies. Asura found all three of our information sources at the time, including myself. If he had killed us then, there would've been no gathering of the Townies. What did he do? He introduced us to each other. If it weren't for your inside man I would've never met Oldbag. Because of your mole we were able to compare investigations and rumors. Regy was clearly a threat to your plans. What did Asura choose to do? Nothing. You can thank Asura for your demise as well, Franzise. Don't blame the powers, blame the players who used those powers.

And believe me, no one is cheating. Keep guessing.

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:37 am

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Velo is a man.

With that many investigative roles, you would've found out about each other anyway. If you were part of the Mafia this game, I guarantee you wouldn't think the power balance was perfectly fair as you seem to now. I don't blame Velo for taking lemons and trying to make lemonade.

itsaqua is Penny.

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:50 am

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There's no way you'd know this, but Regy, Oldbag, Asura and I were the ones who contacted everyone. Without us there would've been no network. Without a network there would've been no information sharing, and the Mafia would've reigned supreme. I think I should also note that nearly all of our information came from Oldbag, whom Asura was also in contact with. If only Oldbag had been killed, we would've been extremely crippled. Most of us didn't know who Gumshoe was until she was kicked form the game, and Cody was a.f.k. until only recently. I didn't know who Penny was until after Regy's death.

Back to current events, I'd wish they'd go after Koolkevk before tackling Cream147. I'm not so sure about Cream anymore.

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:09 am

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Cream147 and Koolkevk are the remaining Mafians. HOW they got that lead at this point I have no idea.

...For fuck's sake.

This is beyond a joke now. One way or another I'm staying out of round 4 as a player.

Does we even do these things anymore?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:12 am

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Well, I'm sorry Velo, but we're here because of your plan.

So, uh, thanks! :phoenix:

EDIT: You might get lucky though. Cody seems to be trying to go against the network; hell if I know why. I hope they fill her in on our plans soon, though. She could screw up the whole thing if she continues.

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:15 am

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Would you mind not mentioning that with every single fucking post you make? :)

If you want to make yourself useful, by all means comment on my preliminary role-sheet for the next round, though it really looks like the investigative roles will have to be cut back a lot.

Does we even do these things anymore?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:17 am

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Why should I comment on a system that hasn't even been fully explained? :hobohodo:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:18 am

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Aha! Fair point. Fine.

Secret roles = point 2

I need to revise them considering what's going on in round 3.

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:21 am

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Just out of curiosity Velo, what were you trying to accomplish by acting as a double agent?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:25 am

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...I don't know anymore. I over-reached, end of story. Right now I'm more interested in making round 4 less of a train-wreck.

Round 3 was fun but goddamn was it one-sided as all hell. It doesn't help that the wild cards always side with the Town. Is there some kind of psychological thing going on there?

Does we even do these things anymore?

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:25 am

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For those who care, these were the roles I was planning to use in my game. Not sure if I'll get the chance, though. I don't want to try running a game alongside a bunch of others, that gets too confusing.

The characters are intentionally spread out over different games because, uh, I wanted to do it that way. That, and it gives me a lot more flexibility to make balanced roles for characters that also make sense when I'm not worried about limiting myself to a specific case.

Spoiler: Townspeople

Spoiler: Mafia

Dee Vasquez, the Godmother
"Professionals. They're good at erasing... various things. What do you think...? Would you like to be erased?"
Ability - At the beginning of the game, Vasquez is given a list of the other members of the Mafia, but not their Special Roles. Each Night, Vasquez may send a player's name and the name of a member of the Mafia (or Iris) to carry out the hit to the GM. The player marked to die will be Killed at the end of that Night.
If Dee Vasquez is Convicted or Killed, her role is passed to a random surviving member of the Mafia, but any knowledge she possessed prior to her death is not.

Luke Atmey
A self-styled "Ace Detective", he earned his reputation by threatening Ron DeLite into committing heists for him, then foiled his own plans to portray himself as a hero. Now if only more people would recognize his genius...
Ability - Each Night, Luke may blackmail a player into voting for another player of his choice. He sends the name of the player being blackmailed and the person to receive the vote to the GM. That player will then be informed he or she is being blackmailed; if the player does not vote for the person Luke demanded or changes his/her vote during that Day, the identity of the player being blackmailed will be revealed in the Game Thread by the GM, along with that player’s alignment and Special Role.
If Luke blackmails Ron DeLite, Ron not only must vote the way Luke demands, but Ron also joins the Mafia.
If Luke blackmails Shelley deKiller, Shelley is not obligated to vote as requested and Luke is Killed at the end of the Night.

Dahlia Hawthorne
A beautiful girl twisted by a family that never wanted her, not even death can stop her quest to punish those who have wronged her.
Ability - After Dahlia is Convicted or Killed, she possesses a random player whose identity is only known by the GM. Dahlia may then continue to post in the Gaming Thread and PM living players, but may no longer vote, and each Night, she may send a player's name to the GM; that person is Killed at the end of the Night. If Dahlia's host uses an ability to Convict or Kill someone during the Night, or is assigned to carry out a hit by Vasquez, Dahlia's Kill overrides that ability.
If Dahlia attempts to Kill Iris, either by being assigned to do so by Vasquez or with her own ability, the Kill fails, and Iris' and Dahlia's (or her host's if she has one) identities are revealed to each other.
If Dahlia's host is Convicted or Killed, or she is exorcised, Dahlia loses her Nightly Kill and may no longer post in the Gaming Thread or contact living players.

Spoiler: Unaligned

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:29 am

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The fact that there are umpteen Townie special roles makes that list a bit one-sided, even if the roles themselves are awesome. We all seem to be preoccupied with overarming the Townies. XD

I would disclose the secret role blueprints to you, except for one problem: the second I reveal them, the gameplay mechanics for those roles are completely wrecked. :(

Does we even do these things anymore?

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:30 am

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@Velo: I asked Oldbag why she sided with us, and she said it was because she counted towards the player count anyway. It would be counter-productive if she worked against us, right? :redd:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:30 am

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Secret rolls? Like, rolls that nobody knows about that get put in play?
... Wow... this could be the best round ever! :butzthumbs:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:32 am

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@Don: yup, exactly like that. :D

@R_Bond: OK, I was trying to become the centre of the Townie Information Network, get everything to run through me and in doing so have the Mafia control the Town. My mistake was to trust you and Regy too much.
You bastards. :(

@The Living Thread: Koolkevk: old tactic, won't work anymore, you just revealed yourself as Sal, well done.

Get this farce of a round over with already!! >_<

Does we even do these things anymore?

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:36 am

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I convinced Regy that it would be best if I took you out during the night rather than relying on vote, which would tip you off. We were hoping to catch you before you spread any more of our info, such as our knowledge about Franzise.

Plus I wanted you to know that I figured you out. :damon:

EDIT: We already know Koolkevk's in the Mafia, as well as Cream. I don't know why they're still trying to act clueless; it's not like the Mafia can come back and kill them all. :edgeworth:

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:38 am

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Information was leaked the second I received it, so you were pretty screwed there. ;)

At the end of the day, you two played very well. I trusted you two to the point that I thought I was doing a good job when I reality I was playing right into your hands.

As for offing you early, the Mafia had good reason for delaying your deaths. The only reason Regy didn't die a day earlier than he actually did was because Penny went and cancelled our hit by attacking Ethed! XD

Does we even do these things anymore?

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Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:39 am

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Boss Velotix wrote:

The fact that there are umpteen Townie special roles makes that list a bit one-sided, even if the roles themselves are awesome. We all seem to be preoccupied with overarming the Townies. XD

Well, Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Gumshoe were all toned back quite a bit, and Mia and Diego can work very much in favor for the Mafia if they aren't well-informed. Then the Mafia has Luke who can steal Ron, and Dahlia, who can be immensely powerful if she's played right... I think it balances out.

And Wocky just sucks for the townies. :godot:

Re: CR Mafia Dead: Hazakurain Temple

Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:41 am

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R_Bond wrote:

Penny, it might've been a good idea to try to come into contact with us. We would've made a good team, you and I. :think:

Duly noted. :franny:

On the alive topic; Koolkevk is on the 'Bad Grammar' list.Ooh.Not a place you wanna be.And yeah,kool's being kinda coy.