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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:58 pm

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I'll move Jade three left, two down, and attack the boss.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:15 pm

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Jade's attack hits, doing 22 points of damage. The boss is now at 6/28 HP. The combat brings Jade's transform gauge down to 27 and nets her 11 EXP. DoMaya, it's now your turn.

Spoiler: map

Spoiler: Crelarus's range

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:27 pm

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Damn Crelarus can move SIX?!

Either way I think Jade's got this in the bag. MVP!

Though perhaps she is a little crutch for us XD. Shame we can't second seal into dragon laguz.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:00 am

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Move all they way to the bottom left, also I'm cool for doing the session.

Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:24 am

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Unfortunately, Lida had to cancel. There's a very good chance this test battle will end in the next turn, so everyone will need to be present soon for the next one. Anyway, Pierre, it's now your turn.

Spoiler: map

Spoiler: Ardan's range

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:31 am

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Just as far Right as possible.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:34 am

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Just to be sure: right is away from the rest of the party. Did you get right and left mixed up, or did you mean to head that way?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:38 am

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General Luigi wrote:

Just to be sure: right is away from the rest of the party. Did you get right and left mixed up, or did you mean to head that way?

Gah sorry no, left left for me

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:32 am

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Okay. That means it is now the enemy's turn. The boss regains 3 HP thanks to his being on a Gate. He then remains where he is and attacks Jade with his javelin, getting a critical hit and doing 18 points of damage, leaving her with 24/42 HP. Jade's counterattack hits, doing 22 damage, killing the boss and netting her 61 EXP. That brings her level up to 4 and increases both her Luck and her HP by 1, as indicated below. Red numbers represent stats that increased during one level-up, green numbers represent stats that increased during two level-ups, and blue numbers represent stats that increased during all three of Jade's level-ups. Also, the combat reduces Jade's transform gauge to 26.

Spoiler: Jade's new stats

The Guard moves to the fort next to Jade and attacks her, hitting for 2 points of damage, leaving her with 22/43 HP. Jade's counterattack hits, doing 23 damage, killing the Guard and netting her 23 EXP. The combat brings her transform gauge to 25. All the enemies are now dead, ending the test battle. With the test battle over, everyone's stats now revert to what they were before.

I've got a third test battle ready to go, but before I post the map, I want everyone's opinion on something: should I apply minor stat penalties to enemy units to give you all a bit more of an edge? At present, no such penalties have been applied, and while you have proven you can handle enemies that are just as tough as you, there is a part of me that feels the difficulty is a bit too high for most of the party. I don't want to encourage the kind of recklessness that led to Lucius and Dorran getting defeated in this battle, but I also don't want the battles to be too hard for the party to get through without casualties.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:55 am

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I think the penalties might be in order, the advantage of regular fire emblem games is they typically give you a fair few units early on. We'll be operating with minimal numbers. Stat reductions in order to ensure we all survive enough to grow might be worth it.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:25 am

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General Luigi wrote:

I don't want to encourage the kind of recklessness that led to Lucius and Dorran getting defeated in this battle, but I also don't want the battles to be too hard for the party to get through without casualties.

ill be fair on that part that i misjudged my range and got myself killed...but i was kinda testing how i'd fare against magic units since this was just a test battle...which is pretty obvious i don't even if i only died due to a critical hit...

Having said this i agree with pierre for pretty much the same reason.

Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:27 am

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Just a reminder for the future: I am always willing to show the range of enemy units and the numbers for potential combats with them. You need only ask before making your move.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:20 am

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Yeah I got killed because I misread the enemy's range to my own. That one square cost me my life.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:27 am

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Actually, Blak, you made two mistakes that, combined, led to Lucius getting taken out. The first was, as you pointed out, misreading the enemy's range. The other was not healing. If Lucius had had just one more hit point than he did, he would have withstood that attack.

Getting back to my earlier question, though, what's your stance on my giving enemy units stat penalties?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:17 pm

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Yay! We won! ...But Jade is pretty crutch. I'm gonna use her a lot less in the next test battle.

Regarding stat penalties, I agree with Pierre.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:27 pm

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That makes three in favor. Blak, Cold, what about the two of you?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:52 pm

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I'm fine with stat penalties as long as they don't break the game ^^

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:22 pm

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That's my main concern, Blak. A penalty to initial stats would be a given, and caps would remain unchanged, but I'm unsure about growth rates. I'll throw something together to test that after the third test battle. For the time being, growth penalties are unnecessary due to everyone's low level, but I'll need to see if they should be implemented for higher levels.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:26 pm

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General Luigi wrote:

That makes three in favor. Blak, Cold, what about the two of you?

>_________>;;;

Cold52 wrote:

Having said this i agree with pierre for pretty much the same reason.

Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:33 pm

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Cherche and Virion was alright, you could probably do better though...I just went with it because...well they had history and chemistry together.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:57 pm

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The video link's right there in my signature if you plan on voting, Pierre.

Anyway, going back to the topic of the RP... I've gone ahead and added penalties to every enemy unit for the next test battle. This battle will test out a mechanic that appeared in the first four games released outside of Japan, but not Shadow Dragon and Awakening: fog of war. There will almost certainly be nighttime battles in this RP, and I want to see how well you five can handle a visibility mechanic. Technically, your characters should only be able to see what's in their own sight range, but in the games, there was essentially a collective sight range, so I won't forbid you to rely on your comrades' respective sight ranges to attack enemies that aren't in your own character's sight range. I will apply the same rules to the enemy. If you're not within the sight range of any enemy units, they cannot attack you. If, when moving, your character follows a path that is blocked by an unseen enemy, he/she will stop directly next to the enemy in question and his/her turn will end immediately. Again, I will apply this to enemy units, too. I might know where your character is at any given time, but that doesn't mean the enemy should.

An enemy's stats will become visible once he/she enters someone's sight range. Also, any items indicated in red text are ones that you will take from an enemy if you defeat him/her.

Anyway, everyone, please choose a starting spot.

Spoiler: map

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:10 pm

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I claim the spot on the bottom but not on the frontline.

Also I'd vote on your video but youtube has got real funny about comments of late. A funniness I'm not willing to indulge.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:16 pm

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ill claim the spot in the middle

Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:31 pm

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I'll take the spot left of Pierre.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:37 pm

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All right. Since Lucius is the only person with a sight range of 2 instead of 3, I can now update the map to account for collective sight range.

Spoiler: map

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:40 pm

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So what the grey areas are blank space?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:48 pm

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I'm not sure I understand, Pierre. I included a legend. Which grey areas are you referring to?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:55 pm

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General Luigi wrote:

I'm not sure I understand, Pierre. I included a legend. Which grey areas are you referring to?

Sorry I see, so shouldn't shoving off a cliff be instant death?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:10 am

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Gm... Thinking about it, the old system is kind of harsh... Okay, I've revised the fall damage system. Here's the revised system:

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If you shove someone then, your victim will suffer fall damage equal to half his/her weight, multiplied by how many spaces of cliff he/she tumbles over. In that situation, though, he/she might manage to grab you, in which case you will also suffer fall damage. His/her attempt to grab you will be treated as a counterattack using a weapon with a Hit of 100 (note: the weapon having a Hit of 100 doesn’t mean the attack has a 100% chance of hitting). If it hits, you will be moved to the space your victim previously occupied. If your weight doesn’t exceed that of your victim by at least five points, you’ll then fall and land on a random space next to your victim (assuming your victim managed to grab you). Also, airborne units are immune to fall damage and will simply be shoved onto the space behind them.

At full HP, Jade (when not transformed) and Ardan would need to fall five spaces to die, Crelarus would have to fall four spaces, and Lucius would have to fall three. Anything less, and they'd survive.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:51 pm

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I'll take the spot right of D~

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:13 pm

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Okay, then. By process of elimination, that puts Crelarus on the topmost spot. Lida, I'm going to have Jade's transform gauge start at 0 this time. In actual battles, the gauge's starting position will depend on where it was at the end of the last battle, how much time has passed since then, and how long Jade has been in her current form. Cold, since Pierre said earlier he wants to always move last unless someone asks for healing, you will be moving first. Because you might be stopped by an enemy if you move over darkened areas, you must explicitly state your path. If you say "four left, four up," I will move Dorran accordingly. If an enemy is on the sixth tile along that route, Dorran will be stopped at the fifth tile.

Spoiler: map

Spoiler: Dorran's range

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:12 am

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alright lets get this thing moving...sure hope i dont suddenly smash into a archer or mage >______>;;;

anyways ill start by moving 5 to my left

Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:19 am

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Makes infinitely more sense for me to hold my action till last here, what's the point of a character who can't fight back going out and being the vanguard for unseen enemies.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:45 am

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Dorran passes by a Soldier. The Soldier's stats have been added to the relevant spoiler box. Blak, it's now your turn.

Spoiler: map

Spoiler: Lucius's range

Spoiler: enemy data

Also, for future reference, Cold, considering that Dorran is vulnerable to Wind Magic, Thunder Magic, and bows, it might be wise to let other party members take their turns first in the future so they can scout ahead lest there be any nasty surprises waiting in the darkness for an unsuspecting flier.

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:09 am

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Oh god that Soldier's got an axe. What's the outcome for the fight should I choose to engage?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:28 am

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That depends on where Lucius attacks from. Thanks to Dorran's position, Lucius can get a minor support bonus to Hit if he attacks from below the Soldier or to the Soldier's left.

Spoiler: Left or Below

Spoiler: Above or Right

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:43 am

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I'll take the spot above Dorran then, and ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:12 am

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Lucius's attack misses. The Soldier's counterattack hits, doing 6 points of damage and bringing Lucius down to 14/20 HP. Lucius gets 1 EXP for trying. Lida, it's now your turn. As I pointed out, Jade's transform gauge is at 0.

Spoiler: map

Spoiler: Jade's range

Spoiler: enemy data

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:48 am

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Hmmm...Can I opt to have Jade go after Crelarus?

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Re: Fire Emblem: The Heroes' Legacy

Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:14 am

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You may. Do you want that to be the case for just this one turn or this turn and all subsequent turns? DoMaya, unless Lida was just speaking hypothetically, it's now your turn.

Spoiler: map

Spoiler: Crelarus's range

Spoiler: enemy data

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