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Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:29 am

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No, I just meant that some people like to find out more about the other party in a crossover if they're not familiar with him it (like GS fans trying out Layton and vice versa).

Finding out how this fits in Holmes canon is really simple, the timelines are really well documented by Holmesians and while I don't dare call myself a Holmesian, I'm fairly well versed in the canon. As for now, my headcanon is that Ryuunosuke taught Holmes baritsu.

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Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:09 pm

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While talking about names, I still think the best name for this ancestor would be Perseus Wright. He just looks like that kind of guy and I can totally imagine the assistant calling him Percy

Griffon would be too similar to Phoenix, I think

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Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:17 am

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JesusMonroe wrote:

While talking about names, I still think the best name for this ancestor would be Perseus Wright. He just looks like that kind of guy and I can totally imagine the assistant calling him Percy

Griffon would be too similar to Phoenix, I think

Also "Phoenix" has a special meaning relating to what he does. Phoenix are flaming birds that are reborn from the ashes of their corpse, they always come back similar to how Nick always turns a case around and never gives up.

Griffon is just a winged flying bird.

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Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:54 pm

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Well, Apollo's first name doesn't have any significance to what he does, neither does Athena's! Just because it doesn't have any relation to what they do, doesn't mean it can't work as their name!

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Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:54 pm

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Well, Apollo's first name doesn't have any significance to what he does, neither does Athena's! Just because it doesn't have any relation to what they do, doesn't mean it can't work as their name!

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Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:05 pm

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...Both are used to call gods of justice of one kind or another.

Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:08 pm

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dimentiorules wrote:

Well, Apollo's first name doesn't have any significance to what he does, neither does Athena's! Just because it doesn't have any relation to what they do, doesn't mean it can't work as their name!

Apollo = God of the Sun and truth, his heart burns bright like the sun with a passion for JUSTICE.

Athena = Goddess of Courage, Wisdom, Law and Justice. Her soul passionately and bravely seeks out the truth to ensure fair law and justice is passed.

They totally do.

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Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:26 pm

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Pierre wrote:

Apollo = God of the Sun and truth, his heart burns bright like the sun with a passion for JUSTICE.

Apollo is also the God of Music, so I'm sure he some strong chords of steel of his own (and a refined taste in music, so he' definitely hate the Gavineers)

Want to add that while some say Perseus means destroyer, others say that it means 'soldier', which would fit this ancestor considering he has a sword and he can be considered a soldier of justice, of sorts

Perseus also has quite the legacy of his own that he leaves behind. He also is associated with a winged animal (the pegasus). He was also fairly young when he went on his first mission to kill Medusa, and we already know this new guy is going to be 18 when he takes his first case

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Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:31 pm

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JesusMonroe wrote:

Pierre wrote:

Apollo = God of the Sun and truth, his heart burns bright like the sun with a passion for JUSTICE.

Apollo is also the God of Music, so I'm sure he some strong chords of steel of his own (and a refined taste in music, so he' definitely hate the Gavineers)

Want to add that while some say Perseus means destroyer, others say that it means 'soldier', which would fit this ancestor considering he has a sword and he can be considered a soldier of justice, of sorts

Perseus also has quite the legacy of his own that he leaves behind. He also is associated with a winged animal (the pegasus). He was also fairly young when he went on his first mission to kill Medusa, and we already know this new guy is going to be 18 when he takes his first case

Perseus Wright actually sounds kinda cool.

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Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:30 pm

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JesusMonroe wrote:

Want to add that while some say Perseus means destroyer, others say that it means 'soldier', which would fit this ancestor considering he has a sword and he can be considered a soldier of justice, of sorts

Perseus also has quite the legacy of his own that he leaves behind. He also is associated with a winged animal (the pegasus). He was also fairly young when he went on his first mission to kill Medusa, and we already know this new guy is going to be 18 when he takes his first case

Nooo, I don't want another sth-teen as a playable character! Apollo was at an appropriate age at his debut! Why can't Ryuu be a senior!? /whine

It's just customary for law enforcement and private eyes of the era to carry weapons. I don't mind the name Perseus either, but that's as far as the comparisons can go. In fact, I'd rather give this guy a detective's name to rival Sherlock Holmes... but I'm not that familiar with English detective novels. The only other coming to mind is Hercule Poirot from the writings of Agatha Christie.

Thoughts, guys?

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Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:50 pm

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While not exactly ripe for nicknames, I frequently name some characters Gideon, which can be a reference to Gideon Fell. Gideon Wright kind of rolls off the tongue, but he doesn't really look like a Gideon so it's not a perfect name

Leroy Wright is pretty bad, but I did want to account for Encylopedia Brown in this post :p

Adrian Wright could work, but we already have a character named Adrian and I don't think Monk is popular enough to go against Sherlock Holmes. For the same reason, I also think Dexter Wright wouldn't work (and the serial killing...)

And finally, Bruce Wright, after the world's greatest detective

I haven't read as many mystery novels as I'd like to, so I don't have that many Detective character names in my head (and I also didn't mention names that flat out wouldn't work). Gave it my best shot, though :/

Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:02 am

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I do agree that Perseus is a pretty cool sounding name, though I still like Griffon. Oh, well, we don't even know if this game is going to be localized at all, at least I don't think it's been confirmed that the game is going to be localized.

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Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:03 pm

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

In fact, I'd rather give this guy a detective's name to rival Sherlock Holmes... but I'm not that familiar with English detective novels. The only other coming to mind is Hercule Poirot from the writings of Agatha Christie.

Thoughts, guys?

First idea: Wright -> Willard Huntington Wright (AKA S.S. Van Dine of the Philo Vance novels) -> Will Wright, Philo Wright, Hunt Wright,

Or do you mean English as in from England?

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Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:02 pm

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Ash wrote:

Will Wright

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Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:00 pm

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Ash wrote:

Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

In fact, I'd rather give this guy a detective's name to rival Sherlock Holmes... but I'm not that familiar with English detective novels. The only other coming to mind is Hercule Poirot from the writings of Agatha Christie.

Thoughts, guys?

First idea: Wright -> Willard Huntington Wright (AKA S.S. Van Dine of the Philo Vance novels) -> Will Wright, Philo Wright, Hunt Wright,

Or do you mean English as in from England?

At first I thought England, but any from America works too. And that's a pretty good one; I'd forgotten his actual name. Yet, now I'm concerned that "Phoelo" might actually be a possibility.

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Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:00 pm

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People, people, please! If there is an English localization, then Wright's ancestor will be an American exchange student studying law in Japan. His name will be changed to Ian Wright, which will be misprinted to Iam Wright (har har, geddit?) on his visa so that the writers can use it as an excuse to make incredibly lame puns about how his zany theories always prove to be correct.

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Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:23 pm

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Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:57 pm

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Mr. Bear Jew wrote:

People, people, please! If there is an English localization, then Wright's ancestor will be an American exchange student studying law in Japan. His name will be changed to Ian Wright, which will be misprinted to Iam Wright (har har, geddit?) on his visa so that the writers can use it as an excuse to make incredibly lame puns about how his zany theories always prove to be correct.

This is somehow funnier after reading his and Kojima's latest interview on Famitsu where Takumi admitted to not being very good with English puns.

The whole "Iam" joke with the Kurain Urn was purely the locale team at work, so this would be a nice callback as well.

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:45 pm

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I'm still surprised everyone just goes with the fact that his last name will be Wright. I mean, he's Japanese, we can't be certain here,

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:57 pm

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Yeah, it should have been Phoenix Light. The resemblance he shares with Dr. Light is uncanny.

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:58 pm

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Gah, no, I mean Ryuunosuke, not Phoenix.

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:08 pm

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I meant that the two are related. Ryuu or his descendents wouldn't have a reason to change their last name if they're immigrants from Japan. Alternatively, they could still be "American" but living in Japan at the time, but it'd be the same surname anyway.

I still prefer Justin, though I'm sure that's not going to be it.

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:08 pm

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Out of all the fan ideas here, I like only "Perseus Wright". That's pretty much the only "Wright" name I find fitting.

Other than that, I'd really prefer they kept "Naruhodo" in the surname or come up with another Japanese-sounding one like "Raito" (if it sounds obscure, it's because I don't have any real idea on Japanese)

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:40 pm

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It'd be perfectly fine that they shortened his name to Ryu if they wanted to keep him Japanese. It's the easiest way for Capcom to self-refer themselves. Still, "Ryu Wright" is kinda plain in comparison to his descendent's namesake, but maybe they could go for a more humble-sounding beginning? That is, as humble as he can be to team up with Sherlock Holmes.

Or maybe Maya was onto something when she mentioned "Naruhodo A. Wrighto". She said the A stood for "Attorney", but perhaps it could be something else entirely... like "Arthur". ~~And if not, can we still call Susato "Susan Doyle"?~~

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:02 pm

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Ryu Raito... ...looking at this now, it looks like a cereal brand.

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Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:16 pm

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Nearavex wrote:

Out of all the fan ideas here, I like only "Perseus Wright". That's pretty much the only "Wright" name I find fitting.

Other than that, I'd really prefer they kept "Naruhodo" in the surname or come up with another Japanese-sounding one like "Raito" (if it sounds obscure, it's because I don't have any real idea on Japanese)

How about his family following a "mythical creature name" tradition? Griffin, Sphinx, Arion, Pegasus, you name it.

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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:09 am

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Don't really find any of these all that fitting...

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Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:46 am

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Or how about the last names are Japanese, and the given names are English, based off of the Japanese ones:

Ryuunosuke Naruhodou = Ryan Naruhodo
Susato Mikotoba = Susan Mikotoba

Actually, scratch that. But still, Susan Mikotoba sounds nice.

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Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:38 am

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GyakutenFanatic wrote:

Or how about the last names are Japanese, and the given names are English, based off of the Japanese ones:

Ryuunosuke Naruhodou = Ryan Naruhodo
Susato Mikotoba = Susan Mikotoba

Actually, scratch that. But still, Susan Mikotoba sounds nice.

Cept Susan and Ryan are decidedly not Japanese yet their surnames are.

They'd need to go the whole hog and make both names of one language.

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Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:27 am

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Spoiler:

Okay, I'm so confused now.

Is Holmes actually a Prosecutor in the game?

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Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:30 am

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Nearavex wrote:

Spoiler:

Okay, I'm so confused now.

Is Holmes actually a Prosecutor in the game?

Hrmm maybe that Pick your Prosecutor thing might not be for naught after all.
I doubt if he is he'll be the 'final' Prosecutor.

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Nearavex wrote:

Spoiler:

Is Holmes actually a Prosecutor in the game?

We have been told that there's an english prosecutor in the game but "we can't reveal details about it yet", so I'd assume he's not the prosecutor in question.
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Hrmm maybe that Pick your Prosecutor thing might not be for naught after all.
I doubt if he is he'll be the 'final' Prosecutor.

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Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:52 pm

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That shot is from this year's Great Special Court, as always a non-canon comedy sketch, so the shot tells us nothing about Holmes will, or will not appear as a prosecutor.

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Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:46 am

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Pierre wrote:

Hrmm maybe that Pick your Prosecutor thing might not be for naught after all.

The funniest thing about this game's PyP is the fact the everyone (including me) assumed that it would be Holmes-eque character acting as a prosecutor.

No one expected actual Holmes.

As it stands now, we could even reopen the competition, since the only thing we know of the prosecutor is that he/she's British.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:25 pm

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You know am I the only one who is worried CAPCOM will pull some sort of crap to stop this from being localized?

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:51 pm

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Why? This game has no excuses to not be localized, and I'm not saying that only because it's set in London.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:54 pm

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Gammalad wrote:

You know am I the only one who is worried CAPCOM will pull some sort of crap to stop this from being localized?

Normally, it's the other way around: it's not about stopping the localization process, it's about getting it into one. There must be enough reasons for Capcom to decide to localize it. Mostly economic, logically, because last time I checked, they weren't in it for charity.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:27 pm

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

Why? This game has no excuses to not be localized, and I'm not saying that only because it's set in London.

Idk.I want to believe that, but I have a nagging feeling CAPCOM will just pull some move that either delays localization for a long time or not coming period. I dunno it may be my own paranoia but I guess we will find out in a few weeks-months.

Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:03 pm

Joe4evr

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Ash wrote:

Gammalad wrote:

You know am I the only one who is worried CAPCOM will pull some sort of crap to stop this from being localized?

Normally, it's the other way around: it's not about stopping the localization process, it's about getting it into one. There must be enough reasons for Capcom to decide to localize it. Mostly economic, logically, because last time I checked, they weren't in it for charity.

They stated that DD sold "beyond expectations", IIRC, so the odds aren't too bad.

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Re: Meiji-era Dai Gyakuten Saiban for 3DS - Ideas/Discussion

Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:08 pm

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Joe4evr wrote:

Ash wrote:

Gammalad wrote:

You know am I the only one who is worried CAPCOM will pull some sort of crap to stop this from being localized?

Normally, it's the other way around: it's not about stopping the localization process, it's about getting it into one. There must be enough reasons for Capcom to decide to localize it. Mostly economic, logically, because last time I checked, they weren't in it for charity.

They stated that DD sold "beyond expectations", IIRC, so the odds aren't too bad.

Takeshi Yamazaki also said CAPCOM set sales expectations higher in the west then what they normally do for an Ace Attorney game.