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I tried looking for an existing thread about the Steel Samurai, but couldn't find one -- I hope this is an okay topic... :adrian-crunch:


So... the epic show-within-a-game gets plenty of mentions, but I don't think the full story of the show is ever made completely clear. All we really know, it seems, is that the Steel Samurai is a hero who "fight[s] battle after battle against the Evil Magistrate and his minions." But there's got to be more of a plot than that... I was wondering what other fans imagined it to be like.

:steel:

This is my headcanon:

Spoiler: as of the show's progress by Case 1-3
Neo Olde Tokyo was a peaceful society ruled by a good government (the Pink Princess's family?), but the Evil Magistrate came along and overthrew them and took over. Now the Steel Samurai fights to get good people back into power.


Spoiler: as of the show's progress by AAI
Eventually, I'm assuming the Steel Samurai "succeeds," marrying the Pink Princess and governing Neo Olde Tokyo by her side. But, the Magistrate is still as evil as ever and continues scheming to steal back the power... probably by trying to kidnap or annihilate the heir to the throne (the Iron Infant).


Spoiler: concerning the other TV heroes from Case 2-4
I assume that the Nickel Samurai comes from the same universe as the Steel Samurai (the "Nickel Samurai" show was a spinoff of the "Steel Samurai," as was the "Pink Princess").
I was going to say that he might have been the Steel Samurai's partner or something... but, the Nickel Samurai's theme song includes the line "standing all alone is he"... which suggests to me that he's an independent type: certainly no sidekick... Maybe, in the original Steel Samurai plotline, he was a rival hero to the SS, also fighting for justice against the Evil Magistrate but on a different "team" than the Steel Samurai himself (y'know, like a certain other pair of equally heroic rivals we know~ :phoenix: :edgeworth: ).

On the other hand, I think the Jammin' Ninja and the other characters featured in Case 2-4's "Hero of Heroes" contest are from rival shows of the SS series... so they've got their own canon completely unrelated to the Steel Samurai.


Does anyone have their own way of imagining the plot of the Steel Samurai: Warrior of Neo Olde Tokyo, or the other heroes' shows?

Are there any explicit references to the plot of the show within the game that I'm forgetting about, that could provide key pieces to the plot puzzle?



...I'm mostly asking because, uh...I'm kinda planning to try to make a parody "Steel Samurai" English OP sequence... xD; I was hoping to try to make it as "accurate" as I could... which probably just means I'd have to be very vague...
And I do also just want to have this all straight in my head. I know I can never be as knowledgeable as some dedicated fans ( :maya: :cody-shock2: :pokeman: :edgeworth: huh? fan? Edgey doesn't know what you're talking about) but I want to know as much as possible~!

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Didn't one of the Steel Samurai/Evil Magistrate get killed (In the programme itself!)?
I remember it doing a voiceover saying "WHO WAS KILLED, TUNE IN NEXT WEEK"... Not in those exact words.
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Darth GW7 wrote:
Didn't one of the Steel Samurai/Evil Magistrate get killed (In the programme itself!)?
I remember it doing a voiceover saying "WHO WAS KILLED, TUNE IN NEXT WEEK"... Not in those exact words.

The tow actors were still playing after the end of that episode (and well, I assume they don't film episode one week beforehand)

Or was that not in 1-3, but another case?
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Darth GW7 wrote:
Didn't one of the Steel Samurai/Evil Magistrate get killed (In the programme itself!)?
I remember it doing a voiceover saying "WHO WAS KILLED, TUNE IN NEXT WEEK"... Not in those exact words.
Hmm... Well, the exact line was, "One has fallen... but who?"
I think the Evil Magistrate is kind of villain that...
Well, you know how Ash & co. defeat Team Rocket in every episode, but they always come back next time anyway to keep the central conflict going? You know the hero is going to win in every episode -- but you watch the show to find out how they win... or something...
That was probably the worst analogy possible; I know there's a better comparison, and probably a perfect TVTropes term for what I'm trying to say, but I can't think of it -- sorry. :meekins:


Anyway, if one did die, wouldn't that mean the show would be over? I think SS is one of those shows that likes to tease viewers with the promise of big revelation even though the status quo will obviously never change. (...Another god-awful example that I deserve to get slapped for: the Hannah Montana movie, marketed as "she's finally gonna pick one identity or the other!!" and then in the movie she /zomgspoilers/ didn't.)

1-3 had a script that was prepared for the next episode ("Episode 13": is that Episode 13 overall? or Episode 13 of a certain season? nobody knows...) -- and I think it would have mentioned if that script was for the finale.
...But, actually, I'm not really clear on if the show really continued: Did the Steel Samurai get cancelled after 1-3?
It's possible to milk a franchise off of reruns and spinoffs, so... maybe the Evil Magistrate was finally defeated in that episode, and people just kept fan-crazing over the series as a classic. I don't know... :think-think-think:



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The tow actors were still playing after the end of that episode (and well, I assume they don't film episode one week beforehand)

Or was that not in 1-3, but another case?

Eh? Wait... there was at least one actor who couldn't possibly have continued playing after that episode... :hammer:
Did they get a new actor to play the Evil Magistrate?

Oh, wait wait wait... I just remembered...
Will Powers supposedly went on to play the Pink Princess *shudder* after the events of PW:AA1.
No more actors... I guess that means the Steel Samurai really did get cancelled, in favor of its spinoffs...? :sadshoe:


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No wonder cody was shocked when he saw the pink princess was a man! ...A hairy one at that.
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Oh god, I remember a contest somewhere way back, to write the Steel Samurai canon.

It was very elaborate. XD

I have to find it somewhere for you guys.
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And here I was expecting some pictures of some kind of epic Steel Samurai cannon. Now I feel that I just let myself down.
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And here I was expecting some pictures of some kind of epic Steel Samurai cannon. Now I feel that I just let myself down.


There are some fanmade ones!

Hold on, let me find that Steel Samurai canon stuff I was telling you guys about...

I remember they took some liberties though. Like they still had the three Samurai Siblings from the Nickle Samurai, but Aluminum was made into a girl. Titanium and Nickle were still men though.
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Asa Turney wrote:
Spoiler: concerning the other TV heroes from Case 2-4
I assume that the Nickel Samurai comes from the same universe as the Steel Samurai (the "Nickel Samurai" show was a spinoff of the "Steel Samurai," as was the "Pink Princess").
I was going to say that he might have been the Steel Samurai's partner or something... but, the Nickel Samurai's theme song includes the line "standing all alone is he"... which suggests to me that he's an independent type: certainly no sidekick... Maybe, in the original Steel Samurai plotline, he was a rival hero to the SS, also fighting for justice against the Evil Magistrate but on a different "team" than the Steel Samurai himself (y'know, like a certain other pair of equally heroic rivals we know~ :phoenix: :edgeworth: ).

On the other hand, I think the Jammin' Ninja and the other characters featured in Case 2-4's "Hero of Heroes" contest are from rival shows of the SS series... so they've got their own canon completely unrelated to the Steel Samurai.


Does anyone have their own way of imagining the plot of the Steel Samurai: Warrior of Neo Olde Tokyo, or the other heroes' shows?

Are there any explicit references to the plot of the show within the game that I'm forgetting about, that could provide key pieces to the plot puzzle?




I don't think it was a huge point, but the Nickel Samurai had two other brothers who were also samurai, according to Will Powers.

Spoiler: Script courtesy of Xcarvenger
>>> The Nickel Samurai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Phoenix:
> Can you tell me a little more
> about the Nickel Samurai
> TV show?
>
> Powers:
> OK.
>
> Powers:
> "The Nickel Samurai" is an
> action hero program aimed
> towards kids.
>
> Powers:
> It's the sequel to "The
> Steel Samurai".
>
> Phoenix:
> I see...
>
> Powers:
> This time, there are three
> Samurai Brothers: Aluminum
> Samurai, Tin Samurai...
>
> Powers:
> And of course, the Nickel
> Samurai. It's a love "Y" in
> Neo Olde Tokyo!
>
> Phoenix:
> I see...
> ...
> W-Wait...
>
> Phoenix:
> A love what...?
>
> Powers:
> A love "Y".
>
> Powers:
> This girl, Sayo, works at a
> tea shop and all three guys
> fall for her at the same time.
>
> Phoenix:
> Oh... I guess the "Y" shape is
> like the 3 brothers colliding
> over this one girl?
>
> Powers:
> Anyway, Sayo is actually
> the daughter of the evil
> Strawberry Clan's leader!
>
> Phoenix:
> Sounds like an unusual
> situation. Like Romeo and
> Juliet... times three.
>
> Powers:
> Y-Yeah...
>
> Powers:
> Strange thing is, this sort of
> forbidden love story is really
> big with the office ladies.
>
> Pearl:
> Um...
>
> Powers:
> Yes, Pearl?
>
> Pearl:
> Wh-What happens next!?
> I want to know!
>
> Pearl:
> Ms. Sayo... Does Ms. Sayo
> fall in love?
> She does, doesn't she?
>
> Powers:
> Every Sunday at 8 AM.
>
> Pearl:
> I'm going to stop watching
> "Kids' Masterpiece Theatre"
> starting this week!
>
> Phoenix:
> (I can't believe she's really
> considering it!)
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Not sure how that connects plotwise to the Steel Samurai, other than it being the sequel taking place in Neo Olde Tokyo, but there you go.
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Whoa...! The mention of siblings for the Nickel Samurai totally slipped my mind... Thanks a lot for that script!! :keiko:

So, let's see: The Evil Magistrate was defeated, and the Steel Samurai retired to a simple life in the sidelines as a "Married Man of Neo Olde Tokyo"...
(allowing him to make room for the new samurai brothers to be the main stars, but still leaving the possibility open for him to make a comeback and fight together with his family on a special occasion, as in the AAI stage show, when there are no other heroes around to do the job)
...It is now up to the three new metallic warriors to protect Neo Olde Tokyo from the threat of a new villain, the leader of the evil Strawberry Clan...? :gumshoe:
...What kind of name is the Strawberry Clan, anyway!? And why exactly would the daughter of that clan's leader be working at a tea shop? And can you imagine three samurai brothers in full armor sitting down at a cafe to drink tea, assuming that's how they met her!? xD
Hahaha, it sounds so ridiculous... yet still entertaining... I must admit, I think I'd be tuning in every Sunday at 8... :bellboy:


And I'd really, really love to see some of...
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Oh god, I remember a contest somewhere way back, to write the Steel Samurai canon.

It was very elaborate. XD

I have to find it somewhere for you guys.
...that. That sounds awesome. I can't wait!! x3





EDIT:
...
So. Uh. I've been thoroughly researching~ on The Ace Attorney wiki and Court-Records info pages and various game scripts. :notes:
I feel like I at least generally understand the chronology of the broadcasts now, although that may or may not help with figuring out the plots.
In any case, I believe this is just about everything the game gives us:


--EVERYTHING YOU (N)EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT FICTIONAL SAMURAI--


First of all, before even the Steel Samurai, there were various films/shows that likely inspired it:
-"Dynamite Summer" (plot: ?)
-"Samurai Summer" (plot: a typical summer romance...with a samurai on a horse)
-"The Singing Samurai" (plot: a samurai in ancient Japan sings his way to fame and fortune)
-"Bearded Samurai" (plot: ?)
Global Studios began producing all of these movies at least "10 years ago" = 2006. All starred Jack Hammer in the hero's role... but he stopped getting starring roles after an accident that occurred during the filming of one particular movie (August 2011), which featured a villain played by an actor named Manuel (the victim of the accident).
There was also at least one Global Studios show prior to the Steel Samurai that starred Will Powers (in a wig), called "Samurai Boogey-Woogey."


With those out of the way... "The Steel Samurai: Warrior of Neo Olde Tokyo" {Tonosaman} was the official original installment of the relevant "Samurai" franchise created by Global Studios (director: Sal Manella; producer: Dee Vasquez).
The only two characters known to have featured in the show are the Steel Samurai himself [played by Will Powers] and the Evil Magistrate [played by Jack Hammer] -- and the Magistrate's "minions," whoever they were.
Setting: "Neo Olde Tokyo," a city overlooked by the mountain "Neo Fujiyama."
The show revolves around an ongoing series of battles between the hero and villain -- motives unexplained. Apparently, the Steel Samurai always wins, but the Evil Magistrate never seems to be truly defeated.
The Samurai's motto, according to Mia and believed by Cody, is "for great justice"!
The Steel Samurai's primary weapon is a "Samurai Spear." He can also apparently use attacks like "Samurai Kick," "Samurai Punch," "Samurai Chop," and "Samurai Slap." He also may use his Japanese-flag-patterned fan as a weapon (? or just a style statement), since he's always shown equipped with it.
It's unclear how long it had been airing beforehand (obviously no longer than 5 years -- and obviously no shorter than 12 episodes, as evidenced by the "Episode 13" script), but the show was cancelled after the events of 1-3 (October 2016).
Spoiler: "facts" added by AAI
The Steel Samurai stage shows seem to be able to take a good amount of liberties, adding to the canon at will (ie, the attack "Early Summer Rain Jab," which was invented on the spot). So I'm not sure how much we can trust anything established in AAI Case 5 as official canon.
For example, the stage performance showed that the Steel Samurai got together with the Pink Princess, becoming the "Married Man of Neo Olde Tokyo," and having a child called the Iron Infant {Wakasaman}. I don't know whether to believe that actually happened in previous canon -- because the "Pink Princess" show took place in "Little Olde Tokyo" -- NOT "Neo Olde Tokyo": how would the two have met? Also, who would have played the Steel Samurai when he met the Pink Princess, since the Princess was being played by Will Powers? ...



The Pink Princess {Himesaman} was not a part of the original Steel Samurai story. Director Manella only came up with the concept after being inspired by Maya's style during the course of Case 1-3. That show picked up production right after the Steel Samurai stopped (late 2016).
The full title of the show is "The Pink Princess: Warrior of Little Olde Tokyo" (setting change~).
Plot is unknown except that she fights evil.
The title role of the Pink Princess was played by Will Powers (don't take off that mask, dude).
The Pink Princess won the "Hero of Heroes" award in March 2017, but the show ended in May 2017.


The Nickel Samurai {Tonosaman Hei} show began production in 2017 after the Pink Princess was finished.
Plot (as explained earlier on the thread): The Nickel Samurai, along with his brothers the Aluminum Samurai and the Tin Samurai {Shin / Otsu}, fights crime in Neo Olde Tokyo (back to there again?), against the evil Strawberry Clan. However, all three brothers fall in love with Sayo, the daughter of the leader of the Strawberry Clan, and must vie for her love... forbidden love. Oooh.
The Nickel Samurai won the Hero of Heroes award in March 2018, but the show was cancelled after the events of 2-4 (March 2018).


The show with which the Nickel Samurai competed in timeslots, "Jammin' Ninja" (produced by Global Studios' rival Worldwide Studios), was apparently /not/ cancelled after 2-4... (replacement actor found?) ...because it goes on to gain popularity in the country of Allebahst as of 2019. (Of course, the Allebahstians could be watching reruns that have only recently been translated, I suppose.)
The show had actually been in production before the Nickel Samurai's debut, considering that the Jammin' Ninja was a [losing] candidate for the Hero of Heroes title in early 2017. Its original star had been Juan Corrida. Its plot had revolved around a ninja who sucked at being a ninja but "boy could he sing!" His goal was to save Princess Misola from the evil Muromachi Five (using his music...apparently). The cliffhanger of one episode (the most recent / last one?) was that the Jammin' Ninja loses his voice the night before Battle 3 with the Muromachi Five -- oh noes! The Jammin' Ninja's trademark item is a bright red guitar. ...WHY IS IT THAT WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE JAMMIN' NINJA CANON THAN THE STEEL SAMURAI CANON!?!?
Both shows (Nickel Samurai and Jammin' Ninja) were supposed to get full-length movies based on them... But both of their stars became, er, unavailable, for whatever reason.
...NOW, what can they possibly come up with next? What are samurai fans to do!?


...Well...how about indulge in the franchise's shameless, endless marketing schemes? x3 Apparently that's how the fandom really continues to thrive.
They've got:
-trading cards (duh! :pokeman: )
-Samurai Soda (in the vending machine in 1-3)
-Samurai Dogs {Tonosamanjuu} (introduced in 1-4 -- there are stands, and they're also sold in packages, as in AAI)
-action figures (like the one in Edgeworth's office)
-cell phone straps (Maya's phone has one)
Spoiler: AJ
...And, wait, ANOTHER TV spinoff -- "Zappy Samurai: Electric Bugaboo"!? Seen among Phoenix's DVDs in the hospital in AJ. Seven years later (2026) and Global Studios is still going strong with the SAME concept...? I guess each new installment just adds to the fanbase and re-secures the popularity of the previous shows... Nice marketing... Way to milk a franchise for all it's worth...
Hey, does anyone else totally want to see Zappy Samurai face off with any of the previous samurai heroes...!? Metals conduct electricity, right? Zappy could fry them all! Let's hope he's on the side of justice...

Spoiler: AAI (cameo)
Sal Manella made a cameo appearance in the airport in AAI Case 2... Apparently, after being released from jail for his role as an accomplice in 1-3 case, he went right on directing. (Tangent: I wonder who took over the director's reins for the Nickel Samurai? It seems he was still behind bars then.) In any case, he may or may not have been serious about his new film idea: "The Steel Samurai: Warrior of Neo Olde Tokyo versus The World Samurai: Champion of the Earth"! Edgeworth expresses genuine interest in it... Make it happen, Manella! The Steel Samurai's first big movie break! ...But what the heck is a "World Samurai"? <_<

Also, live performances were going on long before AAI: they were mentioned in Case 1-3 -- they're where Cody took all the pictures for his "Path of Glory" scrapbook.


...
And...
I think...
That's about all there is...
...
...
I...I can't believe I typed all that.
Yeah, I had work I was gonna do. Didn't happen.
Hope I didn't miss anything important, and that this compilation of random facts can lead to some sort of conclusions or at least more educated guesses at stuff.

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