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I now ship this pairing for the following reasons--but mostly the third one:
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If they did manage to somehow reproduce, they'd have the most clumsy, accident-prone children on Earth.

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If they had children, Gumshoe would make an adorable father.

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...because it's practically almost canon.

Speaking of the last one: I seem to go for either obviously Canon pairings or outlandishly Crack pairings. In my view, Capcom's dropping hints in a blitz, not to mention there were SEVERAL times where they could have cut the pairing possibility off completely(or at least made it extremely difficult to make it Canon again without bending storylines and creating plotholes). Speaking of which, I think these "spots" were specifically created so that some people would go "Aww, Maggey, don't hate Gumshoe! D:" and therefore fall in love with the pairing--no pun intended--to kind of "prepare" them for when it becomes canon. Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm thinking almost exclusively of 3-3 when I type this, but...still...

At first, I felt kind of awkward around the pairing, mostly because I saw nothing around the two, and there was the age difference, and...it just seemed kind of wrong to me. Not to mention I'm kind of repelled away from not-yet-happened-but-has-a-strong-chance-of-becoming-Canon pairings(maybe because I'm afraid of the annoyance that will come when the Shippers rub the newly-confirmed pairing in my face? XD). Also, if I'm attached to certain characters enough, I seem to be AGAINST the possibility of a pairing with them(Gumshoe has become one of my favorite characters recently). However, I tried investigating a bit more on it, to see if I could see the people's attraction to the pairing...

All I saw was "It's sweet!" and "It would be nice! It might even be Canon!!" And sure, I saw Capcom dropping SOME hints, but now that I had seen some of the reasons--which were more helpful than I originally thought--I began to see how they were trying to plant these "pairing seeds" into people's minds...I mean, really--even on the "GS Meets Orchestra" album, Gumshoe and Maggey are on the same album cover. Gumshoe is getting whipped by Franziska(I could also list the possibilities why Capcom would be hinting at GxF, but it's far less to be Canon XDDD), and Maggey is looking at him, concerned. Firstly, why is GUMSHOE getting whipped? More importantly, why is MAGGEY looking at him, concerned? There have been no outlandishly obvious hints as to Maggey being attracted to Gumshoe, but why is everyone else oblivious? This situation therefore centers around Franziska, Gumshoe, and Maggey--but more importantly, Gumshoe and Maggey! Also, about the front covor of the album--the first one I mean--all the main characters are there as well. However, the second one seems to have "secondary main characters". I was about to argue "Gumshoe is in the second one instead of the first one because Capcom wanted to group him with Maggey, even though Pearl is more of a minor character", but then I realized Edgeworth was in the second one...Well, still, it's something to consider...

Well, if we're talking about "grouping via Official Art", the large official "Picnic" art(with the cherry blossoms everywhere--it's the largest of its kind)also counts. Many "likely Canon" pairings are in there(MiaxDiego, EdgeworthxFranziska, but then it starts getting obscure when it comes to MayaxLarry and Phoenix/Pearl XDD)--including Gumshoe and Maggey. I suppose it could be argued that "Because Gumshoe and Maggey are working together to reel the fish in, it symbolizes blahblahblahblahblahblah" but that's stretching it a little, perhaps. XD Even though I WAS going to say "marriage"...

..........I think I went a bit deeper into this than I should have. XD

Nevertheless, it was fun, and I think the overall reason why I like it as a pairing is because Capcom designed it to be "cute" and it will(likely)become Canon soon.
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This is probably my favorite pairing.

The two characters are both so unlucky in just about everything - Maggey keeps getting framed for murder, Gumshoe keeps getting his pay cut... although I didn't really see much between them until 3-3. That's the case that "canonized" the pairing for me. I felt responsible for making sure that they wound up together
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like when Maggey feels like Gumshoe betrayed her on the stand, and Gumshoe kept making her box lunches. And the ending picture where she's tearfully enjoying the lunch - I don't think it was so much that she was underfed as she was so touched by Gumshoe's caring.


There needs to be more fanart of these two. They make an adorable couple and I want to see them happy - they're both very good characters who deserve happiness together. Boy, do I sound sappy. :bellboy:
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One of the big fuzzy-factors of the pairing, IMHO, is that Maggey and Gumshoe have an incredible amount of traits in common. They're both clumsy, unlucky, hard-working, and, above all, they're both genuinely good people. (I challenge you to name a more big-hearted PW chara than Gumshoe. Just try it. =P) I'll give you that having a lot in common makes a couple cute, but at the same time, two being too similar is, IMO, a bit creepy.

Gumshoe obviously has feelings for Maggey- this is evident from the very first time we hear his testimony in her case. (Even the Judge points it out and he's freakin' oblivious to everything! :udgy: ) Maggey, however, is even MORE oblivious- while she acknowledges fondness for the man, it's purely on a professional level- this case could be argued for her attitude in case 3-3, but think about it... if she didn't really care, would she have gotten so upset? Add to this that she apparently meets up with him sometime between the end of 3-3 and the ending point of the game to patch things up, as he's proudly wearing a gift she gave him- a new coat. Thoughtful AND practical. ^_^ I never denied they may have feelings for each other as again, it being a semi-canon pairing kinda turns me away from it. Although I honestly didn't like the new coat. >____>

Taking all that into consideration, it's awful hard to imagine them NOT starting a full-fledged relationship, as one is already starting to bud by the end of T&T.

Also, not only is it very realistic, it's also very sweet. Consider it- here are two people for whom which very little has gone right. A pair of cosmic chew toys, wearing the great invisible 'KICK ME' signs of fate. This is not something they, a pair of genuinely kind, helpful people, deserve... and as long as they have each other to love, they can be comforted by the fact that come what may, that, at very least, has gone right. Realistic pairings IMO are beh. XD but I can see some fans going for that. Especially with that description.

Sorry if that got a little sappy, but that's my take on it. :phoenix:


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So, could anyone explain what the main appeal is? All I've heard is "it's cute" and the fact it's semi-canon. But, I don't really find it cute, and it being semi-canon is a major turn off. You guys won't get me to change my mind but maybe I could be able to tolerate it better if I had some sort of insight as to why people like it.


I agree with you so much. Though I don't dislike "semi-canon" pairings, and I wouldn't say I don't tolerate it, because I don't dislike the pairing, but I don't see the appeal. I like Gumshoe and Maggey fine, but as Croik said, there's no conflict so I find it a bit uninteresting. And what Croik said is why I usually dislike semi/canon pairings. I feel the same way about Ron/Dessie. Sometimes though I dislike it because ingame it can be taken over the top [Ron's additude is WHY I dislike Ron/Dessie] or become too sappy. I don't like too much conflict either, if it's a ship we're talking about and not smut, because then it won't work, but not enough conflict is not only unrealistic and makes the person writing it look immature and ignorant about human relations, but it's ummm boring. It's virtually impossible for two people to be together for so long and have NO conflict -- it's why teens hate their parents.

Plus, I don't know how to explain it, I can't see it. They just don't look like they go together. I know that sounds like a shallow reason to dislike a pairing, but that would be a good explanation as to why there's no fanart of them. That and the fact that there's already a distinct lack of het fanart compared to yaoi. I don't like trying to see it. I would rather not elaborate on that, though.

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:eh?: / :maggy: is the only pairing I support, due to the same reasons listed above by
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Indigo_X wrote:
Also, not only is it very realistic, it's also very sweet. Consider it- here are two people for whom which very little has gone right. A pair of cosmic chew toys, wearing the great invisible 'KICK ME' signs of fate. This is not something they, a pair of genuinely kind, helpful people, deserve... and as long as they have each other to love, they can be comforted by the fact that come what may, that, at very least, has gone right.

Sorry if that got a little sappy, but that's my take on it. :phoenix:


I think this is why I'm a big fan of :gymshoe: / :salute: . I guess I'm more than a bit of a sap at heart but it tugs at my heartstrings a little to see them together. Below is my reasoning as to why I feel that way and why I think so many others feel that way too (though I admit I'm no psychologist so I may be wrong)...

Spoiler: First three games, also cut for "Wall of text"
Gumshoe proves at least three times that he is concerned with the truth and friends more than his own livelihood. He takes an entire 24 hour period on what is probably one of the coldest nights of the year to look for :yogi: so that he can testify in 1-4. He gets himself fired (albeit temporarily(though he couldn't have known that)) to get the evidence :phoenix: needed for 1-5 (for Edgeworth's sake, I know, but that's another story). He actually gets himself fired again to help :nick-sweat: free :maya-shock: .

Admitedly less is known about :maggy: as she only appears twice and the good Detective shows up in every case but the first one of all three games. She mentions that she "tries to tackle everyones problems" which honestly sounds like someone else we know... Anyway, she often goes out of her way to help people and at the end of JFA she even wants to become a waitress to serve people.

The trick of this pairing is that it appeals to a common human feeling. That feeling is that we like to see the good guy win and the bad guy get utterly creamed. Certainly some people disagree with that, which is fine, but it's difficult (at least for me) not to feel giddy at the cavalry charge at the end of LOTR: Two Towers or to see Spider-man get MJ at the end. I think a lot of people simply like to see Gumshoe and Maggey work out because it's a sort of justification. Throughout the entire series they both get trampled on by life and circumstance and honestly, I don't think a lot of people would argue if Gumshoe at some point were to say "Forget it pal, last time I helped you I got fired/whipped/a salary cut." Despite this, Gumshoe, and Maggey for her part, both keep on going and doing the right thing, even if it isn't what's best for them. Because of this, we as an audience want to see them be happy. They've endured what must be a lot of hardships and because of that, when we see the end of 3-3, it's a good feeling to see things begin to turn around for them. Because we as a society tend to value virtue and its agents, we value seeing such nice people get what they deserve.


Anyway, I guess that's my analysis. I've been wanting to write it as an essay for a while. Still might with this as a base. Sorry for the Wall of Text (TM).
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Anyway, I guess that's my analysis. I've been wanting to write it as an essay for a while. Still might with this as a base.


Please do. I'd love to read it. :gymshoe:
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Homework during the summer...fine...heh, I'll get to work on it when I have some time (probably soonish). The entire Gumshoe/Maggey part of the fandom has been something I've been thinking about for a while now. I might try to get it on that essay section of CR as well. As a side note, I love your sig. My favorite episode of MST3K.
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Mine, too. ^^

And just for those interested, my MagShoe 'fic, 'Violet Hill', is up in the fanfic thread. Huzzah!
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I am so bumping this up. :sparkly-maggey:

My first reaction to Gumshoe's crush on Maggey was, "Daaaawwwww!!! Gumshoe has a crush on Maggey. >.<"

One of the only canon ships I support. But maybe because it's not cliche...Since we find out from the get-go that Gumshoe loves Maggey and he doesn't twiddle his thumbs about it, he actually does something about his feelings.

And even though Maggey was in a relationship with another man at one point, he stuck by her side through thick and thin unselfishly. Not a lot of people have the strength to do that.

And case 3-3...The lunchbox! And Gumshoe was so sweet!
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