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Who was the blandest character in the series?
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Who were the blandest characters in the AA franchise? And I'm not necessarily talking about the most FORGETTABLE characters of the series. Instead, I'll leave that up for interpretation while you explain your answers, and perhaps even explain how the characters could have been better developed.
I'll start off with Iris. The only thing interesting about her is her faulty logic and manipulativablity. As I recall, I believe she was supposed to be a gentle, kind-hearted human being, but they failed to give her any traits that stood out to me. Perhaps giving her a sense of humor would have given her a little more character, as she appears to be nothing more than a kove interest. She's an obvious cliche. Nevertheless, I don't dislike her character one bit, although this is because she had no dislikable character traits like Dahlia.
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Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
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Both because they seem pretty similar in their actions (or inactions), personality and how they were portrayed. Both of them are bubbly and positive, they both have a disturbed background in their father either abandoning them or dying when they were children, yet neither of them shows even the slightest issue with this.
Trucy's father ran away and basically abandoned her with no good means to support or help her, even from afar, and then turns up 7 years later, only to die. And without even seeing her. Yet Trucy doesn't seem to care at all. And no, she doesn't even display the type of behavior you'd see of someone who is hiding emotional pain by being cheerful.
Kay's whole schtick was being the female bubbly assistant, but she ultimately didn't do a whole lot. She felt forced into the plot and, really, I feel EMA would've been a better assistant than Kay. And I don't like Ema a whole lot, either. But it would've worked better because Ema was an established character that had some form of imprint on the player, and Little Thief could've been a new forensice software she got for herself. (Also, double-money, you get Edgey and Ema, two super popular characters, into one game with lots of spotlight for both)
The only difference I can see between Kay and Trucy, maybe, is that Kay is more impulsive. And that still isn't enough.
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AceAssistant wrote:
I'll start off with Iris. The only thing interesting about her is her faulty logic and manipulativablity. As I recall, I believe she was supposed to be a gentle, kind-hearted human being, but they failed to give her any traits that stood out to me. Perhaps giving her a sense of humor would have given her a little more character, as she appears to be nothing more than a kove interest.
If that was supposed to be 'love interest', I don't think that Iris character was meant to be a love interest, especially not as her defining trait.
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The security guard. We know nothing about him aside from the fact that he's a security guard.
Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
But that was the point, wasn't it? I mean, it's true that he doesn't have a personality, but it's what the developers were going for, so I still wouldn't call him bland.
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sumguy28 wrote:
The security guard. We know nothing about him aside from the fact that he's a security guard.
Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
But that was the point, wasn't it? I mean, it's true that he doesn't have a personality, but it's what the developers were going for, so I still wouldn't call him bland.
Everything he did was the result of him following orders. That was it. There's no satisfaction in taking him down, nothing to sympathize with, nothing but a plot device.
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Also, I agree with what AceAssistant said about Iris in the first post.
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sumguy28 wrote:
luck wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
The security guard. We know nothing about him aside from the fact that he's a security guard.
Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
Serious reply: GS5's villain. He has about as much personality as the first Goomba in World 1-1.
But that was the point, wasn't it? I mean, it's true that he doesn't have a personality, but it's what the developers were going for, so I still wouldn't call him bland.
Everything he did was the result of him following orders. That was it. There's no satisfaction in taking him down, nothing to sympathize with, nothing but a plot device.
His motive for killing wasn't following orders, it was that paranoid fear of having his identity exposed he had. All he was ordered to was sabotage the HAT missions.
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He's more an interesting concept than an interesting character, and that can only take one so far.
I kinda agree with that, actually.
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I think any of the Kitakis were kind of boring. Penny Nichols is also REALLY boring. My friends and liked to come up with voices for the characters but for her, we don't give her a voice. We even turn the volume down so she doesn't get text bleeps
I also think Will Powers is a character who time and time again fails to make an impression on me. And is the joke supposed to be that he's ugly? If so, I don't get it, cause he's drawn very similarly to other characters
But the crowning trophy of blandness has to go to fucking Machi
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That said, for the "blandest", I will still have to choose that poor ass who got himself killed wearing a Fake*deMasque costume. What was his name again? "Ka Shi Nou". I think he also comes really close to having one of the dumbest name puns in the history of dumb AA names.
Maybe I'm cheating with that choice because barely anyone cares to remember him.
Okay, how about... Byrne Faraday. For someone who's a vigilante at night like Batman, he's a lot less interesting than I hoped he'd be.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
Technically, just because someone's a background character, I really don't think they automatically qualify for this category. And I don't only mean those people who don't have names.
That said, for the "blandest", I will still have to choose that poor ass who got himself killed wearing a Fake*deMasque costume. What was his name again? "Ka Shi Nou". I think he also comes really close to having one of the dumbest name puns in the history of dumb AA names.
Maybe I'm cheating with that choice because barely anyone cares to remember him.
Okay, how about... Byrne Faraday. For someone who's a vigilante at night like Batman, he's a lot less interesting than I hoped he'd be.
That said, for the "blandest", I will still have to choose that poor ass who got himself killed wearing a Fake*deMasque costume. What was his name again? "Ka Shi Nou". I think he also comes really close to having one of the dumbest name puns in the history of dumb AA names.
Maybe I'm cheating with that choice because barely anyone cares to remember him.
Okay, how about... Byrne Faraday. For someone who's a vigilante at night like Batman, he's a lot less interesting than I hoped he'd be.
Byrne is actually a very good choice. Ka Shi Nou...I don't know. I feel like he's too bland, to the point where he actually loses some of his blandness and becomes memorable because of all the...bland
(And what's the pun? The wiki says it's "casino" and...I don't get it)
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Ka Shi Nou...I don't know. I feel like he's too bland, to the point where he actually loses some of his blandness and becomes memorable because of all the...bland
(And what's the pun? The wiki says it's "casino" and...I don't get it)
(And what's the pun? The wiki says it's "casino" and...I don't get it)
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I can only assume most of you forgot about her in her blandness.
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Pierre wrote:
Seriously Penny Nichols doesn't win this thread hands down?
I can only assume most of you forgot about her in her blandness.
I can only assume most of you forgot about her in her blandness.
I try to forget everyone in the 1-3 case, not due to blandness but due to annoyance or stupidity.
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Pierre wrote:
Seriously Penny Nichols doesn't win this thread hands down?
I can only assume most of you forgot about her in her blandness.
I can only assume most of you forgot about her in her blandness.
She's so bland I forgot about her, oui.
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Fist of Justice wrote:
I feel like Penny Nichols is so bland you don't forget about her.
I used to feel that too. I blame my rustiness, much more interesting characters than Penny slipped my mind as well. But yeah, she's like the symbol of blandness.
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Kristoph and Klavier Gavin.
Both of them were well written characters, Klavier being a refreshing change of pace in that he actually cared about the truth right off the bat, and Kristoph managed to pull of the most arguably perfect crime in the series (heck, if it weren't for the Jurist System, they never would have caught him).
So why am I submitting them to this list? Because we never really get to have any insight into their characters and find out what makes them tick. All the prosecutors before Klavier had at least a little bit of backstory that explained how and why they acted the way they did in court, but Klavier had none. We have no idea why he cares about the truth or why he's so helpful in court. Maybe he's just a nice guy, but they could have given him something besides that, at least!
Kristoph, on the other hand, all we know about him is that he killed two people, tried to kill a third, and indirectly tried to kill a fourth (getting Phoenix a guilty verdict), all because he lost a game of cards to a jerk. Those black psyche locks? Never explored. The only explanation we get as to why he did what he did came from his own lips, and it boiled down to because he was a "bad man," which anyone not of simian descent, retaining even a portion of their mental faculties, could figure out already. Von Karma killed for revenge against the man who shattered his "perfect record," Morgan Fey (who I consider to be the true villain of T&T) killed because she wanted her bloodline to take control of the Fey clan. But all we have for Kristoph is that he lost a game of cards to a jerk.
One question I would have is why two people who were presumably raised the same way ended up such polar opposites. Another would be how each brother feels about the other. Do they care about each other? Hate each other? We don't know, and we likely never will.
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One question I would have is why two people who were presumably raised the same way ended up such polar opposites. Another would be how each brother feels about the other. Do they care about each other? Hate each other? We don't know, and we likely never will.
It's not an uncommon occurrence, especially if the two brothers become rivals in some way. What little we know of their relationship can be neatly summarized as "seemingly close, but relatively distant". I believe it may have been a one-sided brotherly bond, since Kristoph treats his own brother like any other; as a tool. Nonetheless, Klavier in his younger years was gullible enough to trust his brother's hint regarding Phoenix. He did so without questioning it, at that. Over the years, he may have been aware of Kristoph's growing paranoia, but chose to ignore it for the longest time - perhaps out of disbelief or even sympathy. Finally, when it was revealed Kristoph was a psychopathic killer, and there was no possible way to go back to old times, he finally gave in and turned his back on him - sort of as his last act of compassion for him.
That said, because AJ didn't do such a good job explaining their rivalry, I can't say my theory is firmly supported.
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Klavier being a refreshing change of pace in that he actually cared about the truth right off the bat
Klavier always came across to me more like he doesn't care and is just chilling in court, wasting some time until the next gig. Though the fact that he was more concerned about getting the truth had the problem that it removed a lot of the tension that the court sections were supposed to have.
Like whenever Phoenix went up against Edgeworth, things kept going. Much as I hate the case, 2-4 had lots of tension on it, not just in the idea that Maya was kidnapped and needed help, but that Edgey was doing his best to counter his tactics. (I think Phoenix even says something about "whatever [I] dish out, he'll return it" or so, which made my yaoi fangirl-self giggle in delight how they keep their relationship going)
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But all we have for Kristoph is that he lost a game of cards to a jerk.
There you have it. Kristoph is a giant baby who murdered out of pettiness. Pettiness is his reason. That and hurt pride, I guess.
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Another would be how each brother feels about the other. Do they care about each other? Hate each other? We don't know, and we likely never will.
I think Klavier mentions something about how he's disappointed that things ended up that way with his brother in 4-4, but I'm not sure. I only ever replayed Case 4-1 so I don't know the text well. Though it could be that Klavier was just pulling himself together while he was in public. (Being a famous musician and all)
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But all we have for Kristoph is that he lost a game of cards to a jerk.
There you have it. Kristoph is a giant baby who murdered out of pettiness. Pettiness is his reason. That and hurt pride, I guess.
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True, however, all of the previous big bads' motives were delved into a bit more. Okay, so Kristoph is petty, I have no problem with that. Question is why he's so petty. Is this the first time his pride was ever injured? Did he go into a murderous frenzy due to injured pride before the poker game ever happened? And what are those black psyche locks all about? They hinted at a Freudian Excuse or something along those lines with those, but we never find out what it was, which amounts to: "Kristoph Gavin is a bad man because reasons."
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