spirit chanelling

Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:05 am

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If Maya is strong enough to spirit channel why not just channel victims and find out who killed them ^^;

When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth- Sherlock Holmes

Re: spirit chanelling

Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:23 am

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davech1987 wrote:

If Maya is strong enough to spirit channel why not just channel victims and find out who killed them ^^;

She's not the best at it. Besides ever since her mother tried it for the police it's been ridiculed. No one would accept it as evidence even if they did let it go ahead.

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Re: spirit chanelling

Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:29 pm

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davech1987 wrote:

If Maya is strong enough to spirit channel why not just channel victims and find out who killed them ^^;

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Re: spirit chanelling

Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:45 pm

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It would still give Phoenix a huge advantage if he knew who, then he'd know the right direction to look in

Phoenix: Hey, Pearls, how about channeling Elise for me?
Pearl: Ok, Mr. Nick
Elise: Hello, Mr. Wright. This is what happened. I'm actually Misty Fey. I cooperated with Prosecutor Godot and Iris to stop Morgan Fey from killing Maya. Morgan ordered Pearl to channel Dahlia Hawthorne, so I did it so she couldn't. I don't know what happened from there, but somebody killed me while I was channeling Dahlia. Figure everything out from there, good luck.

Phoenix certainly would need to prove this and couldn't use Elise's testimony as evidence, but what she said would help

The real answer is that the game wouldn't be as fun. It's the same reason Phoenix doesn't use the magatama on everyone and say, "Did you kill the victim?"

Re: spirit chanelling

Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:16 am

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JesusMonroe wrote:

It's the same reason Phoenix doesn't use the magatama on everyone and say, "Did you kill the victim?"

Well, to be fair, that isn't guaranteed to work in the first place. For example, if the victim was killed by an assassin and the assassin's client is the defendant, the Magatama can be fooled by the fact that the assassin is technically the one who did the killing.

As for spirit channeling, what if the victim is mistaken? Or for that matter, what if the victim decides to lie for some reason? I can actually think of a few cases in which that would have been a problem.

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Re: spirit chanelling

Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:49 am

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JesusMonroe wrote:

It's the same reason Phoenix doesn't use the magatama on everyone and say, "Did you kill the victim?"

The Magatama is not a Lie Detector. The Magatama is not a Lie Detector. The Magatama is not a Lie Detector. The Magatama is not a Lie Detector!

It's not a damn lie detector! Why do people think it acts like one? It acts upon the desire to hold in a secret of the person. Look at Larry and his psychelocks, they don't appear when he did anything that could bring harm to someone, his appeared because he had that huge secret of that amazing thing he saw in 3-5. Granted, he's the type who feels like he wants to reveal secrets, but gameplay.

Same reason why the magatama didn't work on Engarde. He said "I didn't kill anyone, including Juan" which was not a lie, nor did he hold a secret that somehow made him feel like he was responsible for any deaths. Hence it didn't react. When it comes to the secret of his true personality, then it reacts.

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Besides ever since her mother tried it for the police it's been ridiculed. No one would accept it as evidence even if they did let it go ahead.

Well considering she channeled the victim of the case in 1-2 and had her blatantly blackmail the witness/murderer on the stand into a confession, I don't think... I have no idea how to finish that sentence since, well, that is what happened and it was stupid. It's like the developers immediately ran out of ideas how to end a case and just decided to pull the cop out that shouldn't work.

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Re: spirit chanelling

Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:51 am

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CatMuto wrote:

JesusMonroe wrote:

It's the same reason Phoenix doesn't use the magatama on everyone and say, "Did you kill the victim?"

The Magatama is not a Lie Detector. The Magatama is not a Lie Detector. The Magatama is not a Lie Detector. The Magatama is not a Lie Detector!

It's not a damn lie detector! Why do people think it acts like one? It acts upon the desire to hold in a secret of the person. Look at Larry and his psychelocks, they don't appear when he did anything that could bring harm to someone, his appeared because he had that huge secret of that amazing thing he saw in 3-5. Granted, he's the type who feels like he wants to reveal secrets, but gameplay.

Same reason why the magatama didn't work on Engarde. He said "I didn't kill anyone, including Juan" which was not a lie, nor did he hold a secret that somehow made him feel like he was responsible for any deaths. Hence it didn't react. When it comes to the secret of his true personality, then it reacts.

It still should theorically react when talking to the culprit about the case or whenever someone is trying to hide a secret (which happens a lot) and it doesn't.

Re: spirit chanelling

Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 am

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General Luigi wrote:

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These are some good points, but I feel like the victim would still want to reveal whatever they know (still wouldn't help in some cases like Russel Berry, who probably wouldn't throw his daughter under the bus).

And Cat, it's not a lie detector, but asking the killer "Did you kill him?", if the killer says no, he/she is attempting to keep a secret. Yes, it won't work in cases like Engarde, but the cases with assassins can be counted on one hand (plus, if Phoenix asked everyone if they killed Juan, he'd find the magatama wasn't reacting to anybody, which would raise red flags).

Re: spirit chanelling

Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:41 pm

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Re: spirit chanelling

Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:20 am

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Txai Viegas wrote:

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When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth- Sherlock Holmes

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Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:42 pm

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For the same reasons the villains in RPGs don't send their level 99 minions to fight the heroes when they are not powerful yet,or why they will never finish their plans even if the player expends 6 real life months grinding rather than fighting them: gameplay.

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