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I reposted this from another forum site...and, like I said in that one, I don't know where this should technically go. Since the cases mentioned here are more thoroughly mentioned in game 1, I'm assuming that this is where this one goes.

What really...irked me about Ace Attorney, is that they never went TOO in depth with the DL-6 and SL-9 cases. I mean, really, if it wasn't for Redd White having...spilled the beans, as it were...about Misty Fey, then you really wouldn't have much of a case to look back on. And if it wasn't for Gant and helping to forge evidence (and thus causing the rumors about Miles), we wouldn't have a lovable, memorable rival character nor much of an interesting plot to go off of.

Seriously though, I really think they should make a spin-off of the Ace Attorney game, which would explain in more (if not full) detail, the cases of DL-6 and SL-9.

Other members, any thoughts on this? :keiko:
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To be honest, I feel like those two cases are expounded upon perfectly. We know what happened in them, we had to solve both of them in the first game, and we know what comes of them. I think that any more (i.e. spinoff games) would be unnecessary and overkill.
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To be honest, I feel like those two cases are expounded upon perfectly. We know what happened in them, we had to solve both of them in the first game, and we know what comes of them. I think that any more (i.e. spinoff games) would be unnecessary and overkill.


Really, you think that? I think that...well, personally, we technically wouldn't even HAVE a game to play if it weren't for Redd White, the Feys, and the Edgeworths. I just feel that their stories deserve a little bit more...analysis.
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DL-6 is fully explained and has a conclusion on PW3, if you haven't played that yet. Do also remember that SL-9 was Joe Darke's case, and not Ema's/Gant's case. It's the aftermath of SL-9 that was important.
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DL-6 was practically spoonfed to you. I really felt like they possibly couldn't go into more detail without the entire court sequence just getting boring. In fact, DL-6 was far more complex than the Jack Hammond case.

SL-9... was pretty simple, really. The case wasn't important, IMO. It was mainly Gant and Skye's coverup that was the real problem.
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DL-6 is fully explained and has a conclusion on PW3, if you haven't played that yet. Do also remember that SL-9 was Joe Darke's case, and not Ema's/Gant's case. It's the aftermath of SL-9 that was important.


No, I haven't played TaT yet. It doesn't come out for another two weeks in Arizona, and I didn't feel like importing it.

However, wouldn't you just like to see it played from a different perspective? Like, from little Miles', or von Karma's, perhaps Mia's or even Redd's? A multi-perspective case would really be amazing.

As for that, why not do the case and then do the aftermath? After all, who KNOWS the evil things Gant plotted in those two years after the case... >3
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DL-6 was practically spoonfed to you. I really felt like they possibly couldn't go into more detail without the entire court sequence just getting boring. In fact, DL-6 was far more complex than the Jack Hammond case.

SL-9... was pretty simple, really. The case wasn't important, IMO. It was mainly Gant and Skye's coverup that was the real problem.


Then, why not play it from Gant's perspective? To see exactly what was running through his mind the entire time. WHY'D he kill Neil Marshall? So what if there wasn't enough evidence at that moment to convict him? They had his confession! He would have spilled everything in the end! Did he panic? Did he have bigger things in mind? He was already next in line to be Chief of Police, it was pretty much useless for him to do so...

Same with Redd. How on earth did he really come into all that power? He couldn't have just slammed his hand on a table one day and said "Hey! I'm going to make a company and blackmail anyone that crosses my path!"? (Credit to ToonGirl for the phrasing of Redd's sentence.) And besides, why did he go and blackmail the police/Grossberg/Misty/whoever? There really was no need to...

Come on, is it really just me, or does anyone else want to see what went on in the heads of those two evil masterminds?
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But... we do learn what went on in their heads in their respective cases...
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But... we do learn what went on in their heads in their respective cases...


Not entirely, no. They just give you a basic run-down; that doesn't give them any life. Why not get to see what really makes them...tick, I suppose is the word you could use for it.
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Because I don't really think it's necessary. We get both cases explained pretty well and in-depth, so I don't think a spinoff focusing on Gant's side of the story is worth making. It's just redundant.
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It's more fun to fill in the blanks ourselves I think. It is for me, anyway! If there's a PW movie ever I'd put money on 1:4 being the case they'd pick so you may get your wish in Hollywood one day.
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But... we do learn what went on in their heads in their respective cases...


Not entirely, no. They just give you a basic run-down; that doesn't give them any life. Why not get to see what really makes them...tick, I suppose is the word you could use for it.


Isn't that what fanfic is for? :gant:
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But... we do learn what went on in their heads in their respective cases...


Not entirely, no. They just give you a basic run-down; that doesn't give them any life. Why not get to see what really makes them...tick, I suppose is the word you could use for it.


Isn't that what fanfic is for? :gant:

Haha, that too.
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plotdevicedesigner wrote:
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But... we do learn what went on in their heads in their respective cases...


Not entirely, no. They just give you a basic run-down; that doesn't give them any life. Why not get to see what really makes them...tick, I suppose is the word you could use for it.


Isn't that what fanfic is for? :gant:


Sure, I'd admit that roleplaying and fanfic is definitely worth it...sometimes. I'm just saying, wouldn't it be nice to see the cases from multiple perspectives, instead of hearing about it as Phoenix? Come on, some people besides me have had at least wondered what that would be like.
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While it might be interesting to see a case from someone else's perspective...I don't think it would be interesting to play. In the end the games are meant to be played from the point of view of a defense attorney who works to solve the case. Anything other than that, and you've got yourself a visual novel rather than an AA game.

I guess a side manga or anime going into the killer's motives would be interesting, but if they're going to make extras like that, I'd rather they do ones about Phoenix. Technically it's been 6 years since GS1 was released, it's a little late to really focus on Karma's motives now.

I think fanfic or doujin is the most you're gonna get on those kinds of villains now--fanstuff.
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While it might be interesting to see a case from someone else's perspective...I don't think it would be interesting to play. In the end the games are meant to be played from the point of view of a defense attorney who works to solve the case. Anything other than that, and you've got yourself a visual novel rather than an AA game.

I guess a side manga or anime going into the killer's motives would be interesting, but if they're going to make extras like that, I'd rather they do ones about Phoenix. Technically it's been 6 years since GS1 was released, it's a little late to really focus on Karma's motives now.

I think fanfic or doujin is the most you're gonna get on those kinds of villains now--fanstuff.


A little late, yes, but if you think about it, I was technically talking about Ace Attorney.

I never said the side-games, as I mentioned, would be based off the perspectives of Phoenix himself. They don't have to be named "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney". They could always play off another name, like...hell..."Gyakuten Gaiden" or something. (That's been a title in my head for a while now, actually). That way, they don't have to directly link to Phoenix's arc of the story.

I like the idea of the anime concept, I wish they'd make an anime off the series in general! :D Still...this is just me, and I know that my rant/concepts/ideas may go unheard or unseen for now, but I'd like to at least THINK that perhaps, sometime, they may think of doing something like this.

More than likely, it'd be for the Wii.
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