Okay, I have a feeling that this I am going to get a flurry of objections from this but here goes...
What exactly does everyone see in PW Case 5? I personally think its plot has a lot of holes and gray areas. There seemed to be many times to me when Capcom just wanted to drag it out more, like with Angel Starr endlessly whipping out new evidence during the trial. Also, how could Mike Meekins be charged with murder when there was no body at the scene? And how on earth did Edgeworth get by without noticing that he was missing half of the evidence in SL-9?!
Just wanted to see what everyone elses opinion on this case was. In my point of view, its only highlight was the characters and the new forensics stuff. The rest of the case seemed to stand almost solely on cance- the perfect evidence always somehow magically turned up on the back of a piece of paper or in a glove that just "happened" to jam itself between two electric sensors. Anyway, opinions?

"What exactly does everyone see in PW Case 5?"
I liked case 5 because of the difficulty and the dramatics of it all. Yes, there were some grey areas, but the way case 5 was presented with a bit over-the-top at times they really didn't seem to show (at least not the first time I played it).


"Also, how could Mike Meekins be charged with murder when there was no body at the scene?"


"And how on earth did Edgeworth get by without noticing that he was missing half of the evidence in SL-9?!"
For the record, Edgeworth was not the only one who didn't realize there was missing evidence. He was just the only one who trusted the evidence fully

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I think a lot of the praise that case 5 receives is for its characters. Case 5 would have been nothing for me if not for Gant in particular, but Jake and Angel Starr just made it so weird and fun. I think a lot of questions can be raised about how certain scenes played out though, such as: I think one other thing that made Case 5 so neat was the idea that this victim had been supposedly murdered twice in two locations at the same time...not believable, but interesting nonetheless.

True, its more the overall bamboozlation of having one person killed twice (I was shocked, at least) that gives Case 5 its appeal, but playing it through again, i just cant seem to accept it. In response to Apeman, point taken about Gant, but it seems unlikely that the police would accuse two people of murdering the same person in two different places, even after two days of consideration. They would have to retract one of the accustations to remain plausible, anyways. And personally, I think that the prosecutor would notice if half of the evidence were missing from his/her desk. Especially when you consider that in all of Phoenix's trials, every single piece of evidence is used.
I'll admit that i may be taking this two far, but i felt i had to say something after hearing everyone rave about this case.

well is case is special because there is so much suspense^^We want to know who killed that guy, yeah, but the 2 mudrer-at-the-same-time stuff is so complex and fun that we want to see what's gonna happen on this point too!!(logic...don't have the choice anyway^^'')
the print taking is nice and using luminol everywhere was funny!^^

The characters are cool! Especially Gant^
and I wish to say one last thing...


BLUE BADGER RULES!!! XD

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I believe that, new gameplay mechanics aside, many players were pulled in by the excellent story and the peculiar, quirk-filled characters, many of sported some rather nice designs.

Oh, and not to mention the Blue Badger, who caused some hilarious moments and lines to occur in the case ("What the hell is that wrigling piece of plywood?!").

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Edgeworth was only ever given half the evidence in the first place. Given the circumstances, all he could do was build a solid case from what he WAS given. Sure, he noticed that there wasn't enough evidence and it didn't all match up, just like the detectives working on the case noticed it, but there wasn't anything he could DO about it except use what he was given. You have to remember that at that point in time, he still had the von Karma mentality of perfection and winning every single case. Also, everyone working on the case was 100% certain that Darke was guilty. I don't think he CARED where he got the evidence as long as it was enough to win a guilty verdict.

As for why I like case 5, it's mostly the characters. Ema is one of my most favorite characters, ever. Lana is just wonderful with her cool composure and calculating mind, but also with her compassion. Edgeworth and Gumshoe had wonderful roles in this case. Angel Starr is wonderfully flamboyant, not to mention sexy, and Jake Marshall is just all-around likable. Meekins is amusing, and Gant is one of the craftiest, evilest, easiest-to-hate criminals in the whole series...while actually having a fascinating and likable character at the same time.

I'll be the first to admit this case had more deus ex machina than the rest of the game combined. Every single littles scene can be broken down into more than one fault/large coincidence.

But I was able to forgive the utter ridiculosity and tedious gameplay based on 1. the characters and 2. the sheer convolutedness of the plot. I mean, solve THREE crimes at once? Awesomeness, even if the way they all fit together was hard to swallow.

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I didn't like case 5 much, I thought it was too......unGSish I guess :/ It was quite good in some part (with Gant and everything), but I didn't like it as much as the rest of the game.

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I liked Gant a lot, and when I got over Ema being a Maya clone I actually started to like her more than Maya... Though some of the case I thought was pretty shoddily slapped together.



I don't think it was awful, but I think it does feel a little off, especially since I played through the whole series before getting to case 5. And I'm still not happy about the changes they made to Edgeworth.

But I got Ganfred out of it, so I can't be too annoyed with it.

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Despite all the holes and gray areas presented, Case 5 was pretty fun. It had forensics investigation, new characters, drama, Damon Gant, length, and a LOT of evidence.
Yeah, I wondered why Edgeworth wouldn't just turn the paper over, or look at the bottom of it, and how the hell Gant could have possibly got Goodman's body to Edgeworth's car. But I enjoyed Case 5 nonetheless.

Hmm... I see all of your points. It seems that I was being overly critical. But still, after lining it up to AA Case 4, it seems somewhatly badly tied together. Oh well, at least Maya left the story for more then five minutes. Consider my accusation withdrawn.

WE FIND THE DEFENDANT, RISE FROM THE ASHES...



-insert confetti-

*shot*

I enjoyed it nonetheless despite weird parts. I can understand someone as spacy as I am not noticing a drawing on the back of an evidence list. But Edgeworth... meh. Oh well. Still my favorite case.

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