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Croik wrote:
icer wrote:
But see, they don't tell us, so there's no evidence. We're reduced to making elaborate vaguely possible theories to explain her absence, with no support in the canon. Actual fact we're given is 'Maya does not exist, in terms of writing, in this game except for an easter egg scene'. And that in itself is a plothole, since no explanation is ever given.
And it's several days between Phoenix's arrest and trial.
Taking the position of "she wasn't mentioned therefore she ceases to exist" is kind of a slippery slope. The writers just can't account for the location of every character at every given moment. When Phoenix was on trial for murder in 3-1 and 1-2, no one came to visit him then either, except those directly involved in the case. Do we assume then that there is no one in the world who cares about Phoenix? No parents, no college friends, not even Larry? Was there no one who heard the news on TV and decided to watch the case, but couldn't necessarily make the trip out? The games just don't bother to deal with characters who have no impact on the immediate case; it's always been that way.
Oh nooo I was hoping I wouldn't have to keep arguing this one. But she didn't exist in the writers' minds when they were writing the case. In 3-1 and 1-2 we
do assume Phoenix is all alone, at least in terms of anyone who could really help him. (Maybe Larry dropped by, to the audience, but he probably wasn't very helpful and could not have
helped solve the case.) We don't consider his parents, because they are never shown in the plots, apart from Phoenix saying he was an only child - hence a lot of fans seem to think that his parents are distant/have bad relationship/he was adopted etc. The absence of Larry or Phoenix's parents is totally reasonable because there is never shown to be any close relationship between Phoenix and his parents, and Larry is always more trouble than help and couldn't help solve the case therefore his presence would be largely irrelevant.
But everything we ever see of Maya (or even Edgeworth, but there's plenty of precedent in the games that he's 'overseas') shows that she's both dedicated to Phoenix (as in, it would be out of character not to show up and support him) and able to help him solve cases (ie. assist him in this endeavour of being found not guilty.) So we have to make up complex and unlikely theories as to how this out of character event of her not appearing could be possible. See, we have to make up elaborate theories to compensate for a usual in-character occurrence that we would otherwise
expect.