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When I think about it, these aren't any big spoilers or anything. I was just wondering how old Edgeworth was when Manfred von Karma took him under his wing as his mentor? How old was Fransizka at the time? Did Edgeworth go to Germany while studying to be a prosecutor? I know that these questions are probably answered in the game, but I figure that it would be quicker to ask here rather than replay the case.
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AddleBoy wrote:
I was just wondering how old Edgeworth was when Manfred von Karma took him under his wing as his mentor?
Well, his dad was killed when he was 9, so we can assume then.
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How old was Fransizka at the time?
If we assume he was 9, then she was 2, as there is a 7-year age difference.
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Did Edgeworth go to Germany while studying to be a prosecutor?
Probably, if we take into account the fact that he became a prosecutor at 20, and someone's line about Europe, "They're progressive over there. Also, Manfred probably pressured him a helluva lot.
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So Miles could have been 10 by the time Manfred took him under his wing, not that it matters much anyways.
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moonfall wrote:
I assumed that Manfred took Edgeworth with him on his "vacation." Maybe he spent those 6 months tutoring Edgeworth so he could study on his own later?
Hmm... wouldn't Edgeworth have gotten suspicious, though?
Golly, Mr. von Karma, why do you have a red stain where your shoulder is? or Why is your arm in a sling? etc
I think he would have mentioned something once the bullet wound was revealed in court.
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Adrian in black wrote:
moonfall wrote:
I assumed that Manfred took Edgeworth with him on his "vacation." Maybe he spent those 6 months tutoring Edgeworth so he could study on his own later?
Hmm... wouldn't Edgeworth have gotten suspicious, though?
Golly, Mr. von Karma, why do you have a red stain where your shoulder is? or Why is your arm in a sling? etc
I think he would have mentioned something once the bullet wound was revealed in court.
I assume that he wore long sleeves. That should be enough to hide a bandage.
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moonfall wrote:
Adrian in black wrote:
moonfall wrote:
I assumed that Manfred took Edgeworth with him on his "vacation." Maybe he spent those 6 months tutoring Edgeworth so he could study on his own later?
Hmm... wouldn't Edgeworth have gotten suspicious, though?
Golly, Mr. von Karma, why do you have a red stain where your shoulder is? or Why is your arm in a sling? etc
I think he would have mentioned something once the bullet wound was revealed in court.
I assume that he wore long sleeves. That should be enough to hide a bandage.
A bandage, yes, but not a sling, or the fact that his arm's range of motion was likely limited for a period of time.
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Adrian in black wrote:
Golly, Mr. von Karma, why do you have a red stain where your shoulder is?
Because those words would definitely come out of Edgeworth's mouth.
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So, first off, wasn't there a part in 1-4 that said that Manfred went on his six month vacation and then brought Miles to Germany? Or am I just imagining that.
Anyway, my thoughts on the subject are that Manfred pretty much fled after the "incident". But he knew he'd be back for Miles. He just couldn't have him around asking questions. So, Manfred asks Gant, his long-time friend, to take care of him for a while. He then headed back home for his six month "vacation".
Gant takes Miles in, Miles doesn't question it. It's a place to live, Daddy knew this man so he should be okay.
Manfred would heal and devise his plan for Miles in this time, come back to America and get Miles from Gant. Miles would go willingly, of course, because Mister von Karma seems very nice somehow.
Then the next ten years follow.
It's a bit strange, but it made sense to me. x3
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Bitter_Godot wrote:
I support Adrian in Black's Logic. Also, remember, define the word "vacation" for a von Karma and a medical matter. Surely, Manfred was alone in his room alone reading a book.
Or doing something...else...
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Then the next ten years follow.
It's a bit strange, but it made sense to me. x3
This kind of makes sense, but the thing that always bothered me was how was Manfred able to take care of Miles in the first place? I mean, people knew (or at least a few of them did) that Manfred hated Edgeworth's father, so how could he be trusted to take care of Miles?
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OldbagOtaku wrote:
This kind of makes sense, but the thing that always bothered me was how was Manfred able to take care of Miles in the first place? I mean, people knew (or at least a few of them did) that Manfred hated Edgeworth's father, so how could he be trusted to take care of Miles?
True, but let's remember that what Manfred says, the judge does.
But considering that didn't fly, he probably was like look, I have two girls of my own. I'm taking decent care of them (Cause, you know, leaving them with their mother for years is a-ok), and I'd do the same for Miles.
Needless to say, Manfred probably pulled one or more strings. How do you think he got by 40 years on forged evidence?
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Burninator wrote:
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Golly, Mr. von Karma, why do you have a red stain where your shoulder is?
Because those words would definitely come out of Edgeworth's mouth.
Thank you, I'm glad you agree that Edgeworth would be that observant at nine years of age.
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didn't much care for at the time, because he was a prosecutor, and most likely knew of his techniques.Burninator wrote:
Actually, I don't think Manfred took Edgey right after Gregory was killed, because
So Miles could have been 10 by the time Manfred took him under his wing, not that it matters much anyways.
A good point. If we assume this, things make sense. Spoiler: 1-4
So Miles could have been 10 by the time Manfred took him under his wing, not that it matters much anyways.
would begin his resentment for defense attorneys because Hammond got 
of the hook. So he wouldn't mind going with , despite his techniques, because he is the enemy of defense attorneys, a prosecutor with a 25-year perfect record.But the thing I'm confused about is, why did
take in in the first place?
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GigaHand wrote:
But the thing I'm confused about is, why did take in in the first place?
take in in the first place?It's rather simple, actually.
Manfred hated Gregory for ruining his perfect record. Hated him with every fibre of his being. So to get back at him, he wanted to take his son and turn him into exactly what Gregory was not: a ruthless, lying, cheating prosecutor.
It's all to get back at Gregory for ruining his perfect record.
And something tells me Manfred was planning on framing Miles that early Christmas morning for years. How else would he devise such a plan.
And of course, he wanted Miles to trust him.
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What I want to know is did Miles and Franziska attend school, or were they homeschooled? I've always leaned toward the latter, but I recall reading not long ago that homeschooling is illegal in Germany.
Manfred was always busy, so I'm assuming there was a nanny or tutor in the house as well.
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moonfall wrote:
Did Franziska just quit school to start working?
I'd guess that she just graduated early.
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moonfall wrote:
I'm assuming that Manfred at least went through the proper legal proceedings to take Miles in. I doubt Miles was kidnapped or immigrated illegally.
What I want to know is did Miles and Franziska attend school, or were they homeschooled? I've always leaned toward the latter, but I recall reading not long ago that homeschooling is illegal in Germany.
Manfred was always busy, so I'm assuming there was a nanny or tutor in the house as well.
What I want to know is did Miles and Franziska attend school, or were they homeschooled? I've always leaned toward the latter, but I recall reading not long ago that homeschooling is illegal in Germany.
Manfred was always busy, so I'm assuming there was a nanny or tutor in the house as well.
In a couple of old creator interviews they intimated that Edgeworth did attend school and even held part time jobs, though how much of those interviews are canon is up to debate.
There's also a tiny mention in GK
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Croik wrote:
moonfall wrote:
I'm assuming that Manfred at least went through the proper legal proceedings to take Miles in. I doubt Miles was kidnapped or immigrated illegally.
What I want to know is did Miles and Franziska attend school, or were they homeschooled? I've always leaned toward the latter, but I recall reading not long ago that homeschooling is illegal in Germany.
Manfred was always busy, so I'm assuming there was a nanny or tutor in the house as well.
What I want to know is did Miles and Franziska attend school, or were they homeschooled? I've always leaned toward the latter, but I recall reading not long ago that homeschooling is illegal in Germany.
Manfred was always busy, so I'm assuming there was a nanny or tutor in the house as well.
In a couple of old creator interviews they intimated that Edgeworth did attend school and even held part time jobs, though how much of those interviews are canon is up to debate.
There's also a tiny mention in GK
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It's hard for me to imagine what kind of part time jobs he would have, but it is a cool thought.
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I'm still under the impression Manfred took Edgeworth to Germany until he began his career in America. Miles and Franziska seem close enough to have been raised together. Also, whenever Edgeworth "disappears," doesn't he go to Germany?
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