Is Prohibition reenacted in Ace Attorney?
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I know it's probably just to get stuff past the censors, (which is kind of ironic since the games are about murders) but it seems like alcohol doesn't exist in Ace Attorney Land.
I mean, Phoenix's "grape juice" in AJ was already questionable, but case 2 in AAI makes it ridiculous.
Next they'll be saying Matt's brandy is chocolate milk.
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fatalfeline wrote:
(FYI Prohibition pertains to the period of time that alcohol was banned in the United States)
I know it's probably just to get stuff past the censors, (which is kind of ironic since the games are about murders) but it seems like alcohol doesn't exist in Ace Attorney Land.
I mean, Phoenix's "grape juice" in AJ was already questionable, but case 2 in AAI makes it ridiculous.
Next they'll be saying Matt's brandy is chocolate milk.
I know it's probably just to get stuff past the censors, (which is kind of ironic since the games are about murders) but it seems like alcohol doesn't exist in Ace Attorney Land.
I mean, Phoenix's "grape juice" in AJ was already questionable, but case 2 in AAI makes it ridiculous.
Next they'll be saying Matt's brandy is chocolate milk.
I know what you mean. It probably doesn't exist, considering people around ten may play it (I began at age eleven). It probably isn't very child-friendly. But I thought that when Phoenix preferred grape juice instead of some alcoholic beverage in AJ Case 1.
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(Although there did seem to be one guy on the plane who was drunk...)
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Bad Player wrote:
(Although there did seem to be one guy on the plane who was drunk...)
Nope it was all juice. Edgeworth even says something like "I don't think anyone should drink too much. There is such a thing as over-hydration."
*headdesk*
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fatalfeline wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
(Although there did seem to be one guy on the plane who was drunk...)
Nope it was all juice. Edgeworth even says something like "I don't think anyone should drink too much. There is such a thing as over-hydration."
*headdesk*
Ah, I didn't read that... (I just talked to him)
...Maybe the guy switched the labels?
*is thinking of Phoenix in 4-2*
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Bad Player wrote:
fatalfeline wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
(Although there did seem to be one guy on the plane who was drunk...)
Nope it was all juice. Edgeworth even says something like "I don't think anyone should drink too much. There is such a thing as over-hydration."
*headdesk*
Ah, I didn't read that... (I just talked to him)
...Maybe the guy switched the labels?
*is thinking of Phoenix in 4-2*I'm pretty sure that guy even offers Edgeworth to sit down with him and have a glass of juice. T_T
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If I'm remembering correctly, hard fruit juice is juice that has been allowed to ferment, forming an amount of alcohol in the mixture. I'd still technically be grape juice though. What do you think?
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OnyxAlchemyst wrote:
For all we know, it could be hard grape juice. XD
If I'm remembering correctly, hard fruit juice is juice that has been allowed to ferment, forming an amount of alcohol in the mixture. I'd still technically be grape juice though. What do you think?
If I'm remembering correctly, hard fruit juice is juice that has been allowed to ferment, forming an amount of alcohol in the mixture. I'd still technically be grape juice though. What do you think?
How is that different from wine? :/ Alcohol comes from fermentation and wine comes from grapes.
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I thought the same when I saw the grape juice in wine bottles in AAI and AJ
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I also thought that Mr. Badd's lollypop was simply a cigar and Nontendow didn't want people or children to think that smoking is cool or well xD so they put a ball in top of it hah hah
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
Doesn't Gumshoe mention in 1-5, that Gant was intoxicated at a Christmas party?
...What?
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Mask*DeMasque wrote:
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Doesn't Gumshoe mention in 1-5, that Gant was intoxicated at a Christmas party?
...What?
I remember that too. I can't recall the exact exchange offhand, but I definitely remember Gumshoe saying Gant was intoxicated at a police Christmas or New Years party.
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Mask*DeMasque wrote:
NinjaMonkey wrote:
Doesn't Gumshoe mention in 1-5, that Gant was intoxicated at a Christmas party?
...What?
Yeah, he says it when you're looking around Gant's office with him and Ema, if I recall correctly.
Not sure what exactly you have to present/examine to trigger it, but I'm, like, 90% sure it's when you're in the office.
I personally think that the "grape juice" on the plane in AAI is kind of a joke from AJ, since they make a bunch of little references like that throughout the game.
But I'm curious to see if it's still grape juice in the Japanese version. :/
(I also thought Badd's "lollypop" was a censor at first, but it probably isn't. Dee Vasquez smokes a pipe and they kept that, so...)
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Anyway, alcool (that's how it's spelled at my school) isn't big of a deal, really. Matt has his whiskey, Gant gets drunk, and Phoenix drinks Russian Grape Juice... which I'm looking for. Звезда...
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It's funny to imagine that at the end of 1-1, when Mia says something about "going out for drinks," she means that she and Nick ought to go and have a glass of OJ together some time.
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
Doesn't Gumshoe mention in 1-5, that Gant was intoxicated at a Christmas party?
There's a difference between actually having alcohol and characters drinking it on-screen, and a minor one-line reference to something pretty much unrelated.
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(I also thought Badd's "lollypop" was a censor at first, but it probably isn't. Dee Vasquez smokes a pipe and they kept that, so...)
I think it's the same thing as reaching into his coat, and pulling out... a mirror.
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Guess he got carried away at the victory dinner and ordered too many glasses of grape juice, huh? :)
...So I guess there are a couple of references to drinking (like the thing with Gant being drunk / Phoenix's hangover) but they never actually show any alcohol.
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I remember one of the official artworks shows the main cast having a picnic. Franziska appears to be spilling a glass of wine on Edgeworth, and I always wondered whether she was violating any drinking laws (the drinking age in the US is 21; it's 20 in Japan). I suppose Franny could be drinking "grape juice" and therefore not doing anything illegal.
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I think they're probably just carrying on a running joke, at this point. Phoenix had his grape juice so he could have another "hobo" trait without being an actual drunken daddy. It was cute. :) They do have plain ol' grape juice in fancy bottles like that if you look for it--My friends and I used to think it was hilarious to bring them to high school and take big swigs in the middle of class.
It's funny to imagine that at the end of 1-1, when Mia says something about "going out for drinks," she means that she and Nick ought to go and have a glass of OJ together some time.
It's funny to imagine that at the end of 1-1, when Mia says something about "going out for drinks," she means that she and Nick ought to go and have a glass of OJ together some time.
There are so many official arts of Phoenix being dead DRUNK, so the alcohol in the first 3 games was real.
It was GS4 which started the grape juice weirdness, so Phoenix could symbolically be a drunkard without the actual depressing consequence. Makes him look soft. I assume GK continues this ref as a sort of joke, but maybe we have perma-censor of everybody's alcohol as a joke now.
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icer wrote:
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GUMSHOE STOP DRINKING ALL OF EDGEWORTH'S GRAPE JUICE! D:
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Off topic, but where's that middle one from? I've never seen it before...
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Spoiler: details irrelevant to the actual case, but mentioned in case 2 of AAI
Also, did anyone mention the tomato juice in the glass in 2-4? They said that Juan was a health nut and had all kinds of fruit juice in his hotel refridgerator. And a bit of complaint on that juice...
Spoiler: 2-4
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Spoiler: details irrelevant to the actual case, but mentioned in case 2 of AAI
Alcohol is commonly served on airplanes if the person ordering it is old enough, of course. That's really what prompted me to make this topic. Actually, once I was flying on an international flight and once we sat down they were serving complimentary drinks, but I didn't hear what they were. I thought it was ginger ale, but once I took a sip I realized it was champagne. XDDD
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GigaHand wrote:
Spoiler: details irrelevant to the actual case, but mentioned in case 2 of AAI
Alcohol is commonly served on airplanes if the person ordering it is old enough, of course. That's really what prompted me to make this topic. Actually, once I was flying on an international flight and once we sat down they were serving complimentary drinks, but I didn't hear what they were. I thought it was ginger ale, but once I took a sip I realized it was champagne. XDDD
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GigaHand wrote:
fatalfeline wrote:
GigaHand wrote:
Spoiler: details irrelevant to the actual case, but mentioned in case 2 of AAI
Alcohol is commonly served on airplanes if the person ordering it is old enough, of course. That's really what prompted me to make this topic. Actually, once I was flying on an international flight and once we sat down they were serving complimentary drinks, but I didn't hear what they were. I thought it was ginger ale, but once I took a sip I realized it was champagne. XDDD
Well that's st00pid.
Surprised you didn't know, I hear it's Tax free while your in the air....that said the aeroplane charges ridiculous prices anyway. I'd always assumed champagne was offered to 1st Class Flyers as standard.
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GigaHand wrote:
I liked the grape juice in AJ. It showed me that Capcom knew of drinks that weren't alcoholic. Almost every show I watch that allows it has people drinking alcohol opposed to anything else unless it's special circumstances (the character is a child, a recovering alcoholic, or dehydrated [as in, needing water], among others) and that drives me... uh... what's the stage just before nuts? Anyway, AAI almost ruined the impression and made me think it was mere censorship, but now that I think about it
Also, did anyone mention the tomato juice in the glass in 2-4? They said that Juan was a health nut and had all kinds of fruit juice in his hotel refridgerator. And a bit of complaint on that juice...
Spoiler: details irrelevant to the actual case, but mentioned in case 2 of AAI
Also, did anyone mention the tomato juice in the glass in 2-4? They said that Juan was a health nut and had all kinds of fruit juice in his hotel refridgerator. And a bit of complaint on that juice...
Spoiler: 2-4
I'm not really sure where you're going with this, to be honest. Great, you're not fond of people drinking alcohol, but it is quite common. People can easily drink on planes (provided that they are of age). Sometimes it works better for plot reasons to be having characters drink alcohol.
I'm sure your first remark was you just being sarcastic, but I mean.... :/
With that being said, I certainly hope that there isn't a prohibition. That would be a painfully boring time period. And it's not like it worked, anyway.
It's just a cute way of getting around game ratings. I know that in the original Harvest Moon games (or at least in HM64), you could go to the bar and drink beer, wine, etc. In later games, all of the drinks were changed to juice in order to keep the game rating down.
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drink booze?Or was that apple juice or something?
Also, I don't get the whole "can't show kids alcohol" thing... It's not like they don't know beer exists or something...
And what about cigarettes? In the artbook you wan see many characters smoke cigarettes but there are none in the actual game I think (except for
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and then theres....
remember, she ordered wine for her and Redd White in their hotel room!!! also, after the first case in AA, Mia offers to take Phoenix out for drinks!
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I highly doubt it considering there's Matt with his whiskey or brandy or whatever...as it is shown in this smiley...
and then theres.... remember, she ordered wine for her and Redd White in their hotel room!!!
also, after the first case in AA, Mia offers to take Phoenix out for drinks!
and then theres....
remember, she ordered wine for her and Redd White in their hotel room!!! also, after the first case in AA, Mia offers to take Phoenix out for drinks!
I think the first game was a little...rougher?
They sweared a lot more in that one for example
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Either that or grape juice suddenly exploded in popularity and classiness. XD
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