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one way or another.
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So how about we use this oppertunity to bump up the meme's collection of Phoenix/Maya fics? It could be our Christmas project.
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As soon as I can extricate myself from playing New Prince Of Persia, I'll get on to that. I have a couple of backlogged fills I promised to do anyway. =p
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I should really fill some Phoenix/Maya requests too, but there's the matter of FINDING them...
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Thornheart wrote:
...
It's romance where there's no real REASON.
...
TAKE THAT FEENRIS
It's romance where there's no real REASON.
...
TAKE THAT FEENRIS
Now, I'm not that hard on Iris for liking Dahlia or actually being loyal to her (that's the real 'tragic love story' for Iris - Dahlia, like Mia and Diego.) But I think it might have been deliberate that the actual relationship with Iris was based on - nothing but fake 'romance'. And to pair them after? *asphyxiates*
Thornheart wrote:
MOAR SIMS NAO PLZ *shot*
Haven't played it again yet sorry. But, no I'm not neglecting this pairing - in fact this is pretty on topic - at of all places the GameFAQS messageboards, I made a random comment about Iris, and somebody explicitly demanded to debate the relative canon implying of Phoenix/Iris post 3-5 and the relative implying in canon of Phoenix/Iris vs Phoenix/Maya post 3-5. He didn't mean massive essays going pages and pages did he? Uh, turned out he did. I think we're going to deconstruct the entirety of game 3. I'd hate to know how much we've written thus far, though I expect him to give up sooner or later, despite the fact that he's good at finding rebuttals but they usually go off in a tangent rather than actually relating to the pairings in question or are easily turned against him. (I don't expect to change his mind though, and I bet nobody else reads it so it's probably all a little futile but, well he actually asked for it... and I've taken this wayyyy beyond the 'evidence list'.)
Speaking of other pairings, I'm kind of annoyed by some of the more elitist Phoenix/Edgeworth fans, who seem to think all shippers of this pairing are as deluded and juvenile as Pearl (and probably think the same impossible fantasy as Pearl.
DISCLAIMER: Iris fans who check this thread... I'm not trying to insult you! I don't even dislike Iris.
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Allthough i lean more toward / *brick'd* . / is still a cute one. Especially since it includes one way or another.
/ *brick'd* . / is still a cute one. Especially since it includes one way or another.*chokes on unfortunate mistiming of above* Great to have you here :)
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So how about we use this oppertunity to bump up the meme's collection of Phoenix/Maya fics? It could be our Christmas project.
I'm kind of out of ideas on the unfilled prompts.. does anyone care if I do fics for ones which already have a fill?
Is Christmas a romance holiday in Japan BTW?
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Is Christmas a romance holiday in Japan BTW?
It is, and a very sought one too. Voice of experience -- several japanese friends, and one of my best friends (who, incidentally, is ALSO japanese) has her brother back in the land of the rising sun. =p
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icer wrote:
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...at of all places the GameFAQS messageboards, I made a random comment about Iris, and somebody explicitly demanded to debate the relative canon implying of Phoenix/Iris post 3-5 and the relative implying in canon of Phoenix/Iris vs Phoenix/Maya post 3-5. He didn't mean massive essays going pages and pages did he? Uh, turned out he did. I think we're going to deconstruct the entirety of game 3. I'd hate to know how much we've written thus far, though I expect him to give up sooner or later, despite the fact that he's good at finding rebuttals but they usually go off in a tangent rather than actually relating to the pairings in question or are easily turned against him. (I don't expect to change his mind though, and I bet nobody else reads it so it's probably all a little futile but, well he actually asked for it... and I've taken this wayyyy beyond the 'evidence list'
...at of all places the GameFAQS messageboards, I made a random comment about Iris, and somebody explicitly demanded to debate the relative canon implying of Phoenix/Iris post 3-5 and the relative implying in canon of Phoenix/Iris vs Phoenix/Maya post 3-5. He didn't mean massive essays going pages and pages did he? Uh, turned out he did. I think we're going to deconstruct the entirety of game 3. I'd hate to know how much we've written thus far, though I expect him to give up sooner or later, despite the fact that he's good at finding rebuttals but they usually go off in a tangent rather than actually relating to the pairings in question or are easily turned against him. (I don't expect to change his mind though, and I bet nobody else reads it so it's probably all a little futile but, well he actually asked for it... and I've taken this wayyyy beyond the 'evidence list'
SHOW TOPIC NAO PLZ.
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Kairaita wrote:
icer wrote:
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...at of all places the GameFAQS messageboards, I made a random comment about Iris, and somebody explicitly demanded to debate the relative canon implying of Phoenix/Iris post 3-5 and the relative implying in canon of Phoenix/Iris vs Phoenix/Maya post 3-5. He didn't mean massive essays going pages and pages did he? Uh, turned out he did. I think we're going to deconstruct the entirety of game 3. I'd hate to know how much we've written thus far, though I expect him to give up sooner or later, despite the fact that he's good at finding rebuttals but they usually go off in a tangent rather than actually relating to the pairings in question or are easily turned against him. (I don't expect to change his mind though, and I bet nobody else reads it so it's probably all a little futile but, well he actually asked for it... and I've taken this wayyyy beyond the 'evidence list'
...at of all places the GameFAQS messageboards, I made a random comment about Iris, and somebody explicitly demanded to debate the relative canon implying of Phoenix/Iris post 3-5 and the relative implying in canon of Phoenix/Iris vs Phoenix/Maya post 3-5. He didn't mean massive essays going pages and pages did he? Uh, turned out he did. I think we're going to deconstruct the entirety of game 3. I'd hate to know how much we've written thus far, though I expect him to give up sooner or later, despite the fact that he's good at finding rebuttals but they usually go off in a tangent rather than actually relating to the pairings in question or are easily turned against him. (I don't expect to change his mind though, and I bet nobody else reads it so it's probably all a little futile but, well he actually asked for it... and I've taken this wayyyy beyond the 'evidence list'
SHOW TOPIC NAO PLZ.
I believe I could help. :D
Can I apply too? :D
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Kairaita wrote:
SHOW TOPIC NAO PLZ.
Ah, it will take you forever to read it. [start] [recent]We don't get up to Phoenix/Maya for a while (I at first just rebutt Phoenix/Iris in general, though we're now more up to him failing to think of reasons to stop Phoenix/Maya.)
I copy-pasted everything into another page (since I went to the waste of time of writing all that, I felt I may as well have a copy and it's easier to read than the thread. It scares me how much we wrote, but I'm just matching him when his replies to mine go for pages and pages and pages. Sigh. (I shouldn't get caught up in these things..) I kind of indexed where the 'debate' moves to Phoenix/Maya rather than just Phoenix/Iris in general and where it moves to him trying to attack Phoenix/Maya, which was the most fun to rebutt (which was good since I was getting a bit sick of it before then.)
I'm kind of hoping he decides to stop debating over my latest expose, but I won't count on it.
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You've practically argued every single statement made in 3-5.
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You've practically argued every single statement made in 3-5.
You've practically argued every single statement made in 3-5.
Yeah, which wasn't really what I counted on when I 'signed up' but hey, he's got to give up eventually, right? (And when we're not on stupid irrelevant tangents, I've got to admit it's fun. Ugh.)
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I consider myself a very fast reader, but even this...
Might take me a while.
Oh yeah, apparently, you have to register on Gamefaqs to make a post. You think you could tell that guy something from me, Icer?
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
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Kairaita wrote:
You think you could tell that guy something from me, Icer?
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
I don't expect you poor people to try and participate in this 'debate'
...however, maybe you can help me brainstorm if and when he replies again =)
[And I'll send your messages too]
(My replies are partly so long because if I ever skipped something I saw as irrelevant to the main debate, he'd notice and actually complain.)
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icer wrote:
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You think you could tell that guy something from me, Icer?
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
I don't expect you poor people to try and participate in this 'debate'
...however, maybe you can help me brainstorm if and when he replies again =)
[And I'll send your messages too]
It's actually been I while since I last posted here
But I've been keeping up with you! I'm reading through the massive debate you're having now, Icer 
Just tell us if you need some ideas, quotes or anything!!
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Kairaita wrote:
Eh, I finally got over it, I'll post Pop Star/Downfall sometime today...
I should really fill some Phoenix/Maya requests too, but there's the matter of FINDING them...
I should really fill some Phoenix/Maya requests too, but there's the matter of FINDING them...
This should help you out:
http://delicious.com/pwkinksearch
You can find loads of requests based on the various tags. Just type 'Maya/Phoenix' in the search engine to find the prompts you need.
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I'll have to go and catch some sleep now, as it's 30 minutes to midnight here
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icer wrote:
Kairaita wrote:
You think you could tell that guy something from me, Icer?
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
(As soon as I think of something when I'm done reading...)
I don't expect you poor people to try and participate in this 'debate'
...however, maybe you can help me brainstorm if and when he replies again =)
[And I'll send your messages too]
(My replies are partly so long because if I ever skipped something I saw as irrelevant to the main debate, he'd notice and actually complain.)
Are you kidding? I love debating stuff! I'm a really die-for-my-ship type of person, so debates can happen.
And I'd write a fanfic of some sort but I fail at writing.
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I have just finished reading all of the 64(!) pages!
You actually read it all?
...I'm so touched!
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icer wrote:
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I have just finished reading all of the 64(!) pages!
You actually read it all?
...I'm so touched!
Ah, I actually liked reading it! It was good to actually learn about why people like the Phoenix/Iris so much... I still don't agree with them, but at least I can kinda see what exactly makes them ship that over our lovely pairing
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Just finished, because I got distracted.
So, I can assume this guy is a Phoenix/Iris supporter then?
I'll admit it, half of what you guys were talking about, I had no idea. Something about Phoenix being compared to Diego being compared to Mia or Iris or something.
Sorry, no ideas right now...
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Kairaita wrote:
So, I can assume this guy is a Phoenix/Iris supporter then?
I'll admit it, half of what you guys were talking about, I had no idea. Something about Phoenix being compared to Diego being compared to Mia or Iris or something.
I'll admit it, half of what you guys were talking about, I had no idea. Something about Phoenix being compared to Diego being compared to Mia or Iris or something.
Diego-Mia-Godot <-> Iris-Phoenix-Dahlia. Symbolic parallels. I.. won't go into it. [Except to say that there are so many similarities between these trios, and we know that Diego and Mia was over, at least in the living world, so it stands to reason that the parallel pair of Iris and Phoenix was also implied as not happening in future.... long explanation required]
And yes, 'exjumbo' must be a big Iris/Phoenix supporter, since he was spoiling for a debate.
Of course, if he replies back, I want to try and wrap this up, but there's no way I'm going to 'concede' to 'agree to disagree' that Phoenix/Iris and Phoenix/Maya are as valid as each other, because I don't believe that - that's what he's supposed to do.
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Is Christmas a romance holiday in Japan BTW?
It is, and a very sought one too.Great, then we know what kind of fanfic we should be having at this time of year then.
Actually, wasn't 4-4 in October? So December of that year is perfect for some kind of story. How about a nice 'love confession'? I never get tired of those. (One where they've been 'just friends' for the last 7 years, mind you - I can't bear the ones where they never see each other.) Pity the Kink Meme's closed for requests (but since I'm usually too shy to request anyway, I guess it doesn't really matter.)
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So is the debate going to continue or what?
Well, I have to wait for him to reply. It took a while last time, so I have no idea when...
I think he will though.
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Was just looking for an excuse to post... I mean, it's almost Christmas and than this topic shouldn't be on second page, now shoulc it xD
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Hugtenburg wrote:
Still no replies... He is taking his time
Yeah, just when I got all you guys on board too :/ Last time, he took a while so I thought he gave up, but then he replied with gusto. But it was easier to rebutt than last time, since he'd moving to attacking the Phoenix/Maya side of things more directly. I think the key here is preventing him from going off on strange tangents and arguing for the sake of arguing.
And the only fanfics I can think of are filled with 'angst'. Dammit. I always mean to write a story about them getting together romantically after game 4, but there's always angst involved to keep them apart for 7 years - but maybe people would like angst? (Since of course, the 'happy ending' is suposed to compensate for it/help resolve it etc.)
No, no, I haven't forgotten the Sims... I just want to weed out some unnecessary downloads so it loads quicker. (In fact, half the reason I bought it was to motivate myself to buy a new computer. I think it was the one before this one that I brought to Sim Paralysis before ditching it. The fact that this one still works means I'm having trouble spending all that money... but next time it breaks, maybe I won't be able to revive it yet again 0_0) But I started making Phoenix's apartment.
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DefenseNeverRests wrote:
I always found it interesting that Maya... well... kind of said things like "You're embarrassing me" and stuttered when Pearl talked about a "special relationship".
And Dr Grey somehow got the impression after talking to Maya that Phoenix was her romantic partner too. Hmm... what exactly was Maya telling everyone about Phoenix?
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No no no..... Ganta Claus is the evil counterpart to Santa Godot, and the two battle every Christmas Eve in an epic battle of Dramatic Proportions
This... needs art. With them both shooting laser rays and stuff.
In other news, Mr exjumbo is finally going to reply! (I thought 'Phoenix has become the light and Godot has become the darkness' was clutching at straws, personally.)
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icer wrote:
DefenseNeverRests wrote:
I always found it interesting that Maya... well... kind of said things like "You're embarrassing me" and stuttered when Pearl talked about a "special relationship".
And Dr Grey somehow got the impression after talking to Maya that Phoenix was her romantic partner too. Hmm... what exactly was Maya telling everyone about Phoenix?
Yeah, plus, when Pearl got mad about Phoenix taking the first case in 3-2, he approached Maya about why she thinks that. Maya's first reaction: "Huh?! Err, I...". Then: "Um... Th-There's something you need to understand...", "Umm... It's kind of like a Kurain Village custom... Sort of".
Why was her first reaction like that? It's... Interesting... It's as if she wanted to reveal something that she told.
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