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JFA case 3 remake: Moe did it!
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DarkFlood wrote:
Anybody thinking what I'm thinking?
JFA case 3 remake: Moe did it!
JFA case 3 remake: Moe did it!
But he DID do it. He bribed Acro to take the blame.
Wow, I'm excited for this. Out of curiosity, as it's come up in the thread yet not been answered, can you make investigations?
Phoenix is totally Jewish.
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IZSBHR wrote:
DarkFlood wrote:
Anybody thinking what I'm thinking?
JFA case 3 remake: Moe did it!
JFA case 3 remake: Moe did it!
But he DID do it. He bribed Acro to take the blame.
Wow, I'm excited for this. Out of curiosity, as it's come up in the thread yet not been answered, can you make investigations?
I'm pretty sure he answered that question already. I read somewhere on this topic that there will be an option to make some investigation rooms, IIRC.
Also, I'm happy to say that the registered members here aren't the only ones waiting for this engine. I'd say there are some other fans of this game, but are not registered members here, who are also waiting fro this engine. But I'm pretty sure almost everyone here probably knew about that, that there are still Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney fans all about. I just felt like hyping things up.
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MechaBowser wrote:
Just to clear things up: At release, this engine will lack functions like investigation, evidence, ETC.. This is because I want people to get "the feel" of this engine, aka, learn how to use it before going into the more advanced stuff. When they've pretty much caught it the investigation part should most likely be done.
I (think I) see what you're saying.
You want to release the beta of the engine with the trial/case maker already made. While people are working on general trials, you will be working on the investigation, intro/ending, penalty system, etc. part of the coding.
Although, wouldn't it be odd that people would have already made general trials from this beta, then when the new/final release comes with all the new features will be added in later? Would there have to be any update conversions involved. For example, if someone releases a trial script, and deicde to update their current trial with an investigation when the day you finally release the investigation system. Or would updating their scripts not be a problem?
BTW, IMHO, It's still not a Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney engine/maker without every one of the functions available, but I guess I'm going to have to settle with a beta version, until you do release a final.
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N-Mario wrote:
Although, wouldn't it be odd that people would have already made general trials from this beta, then when the new/final release comes with all the new features will be added in later? Would there have to be any update conversions involved. For example, if someone releases a trial script, and deicde to update their current trial with an investigation when the day you finally release the investigation system. Or would updating their scripts not be a problem?
Nope
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N-Mario wrote:
I don't think I can wait any longer..... 
Even though it may lack out a few things, like making intro/ending cut scenes, penalty system, etc, I guess this will have to do for now.
BTW, I donno if this would go off topic, but who else was working on a trial maker, besides MechaBowser?
I think shaun is
Even though it may lack out a few things, like making intro/ending cut scenes, penalty system, etc, I guess this will have to do for now.
BTW, I donno if this would go off topic, but who else was working on a trial maker, besides MechaBowser?
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How do you want your cutscenes? Flash, Wmv, gif or as a part of the game engine (Require the user to do LUA)?
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MechaBowser wrote:
Oh yeah, and just a question:
How do you want your cutscenes? Flash, Wmv, gif or as a part of the game engine (Require the user to do LUA)?
How do you want your cutscenes? Flash, Wmv, gif or as a part of the game engine (Require the user to do LUA)?
Personally, I would want movable animated images. Of course, I could always do that in gamemaker, and make a movie from that. Most cutscenes in the game could be done from the animated images alone (background, and animated sprites in the foreground).
Part of the game engine would probaly be best, with the option to use a movie to start up?
I'm not sure how hard this would be to code.....
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MechaBowser wrote:
Oh yeah, and just a question:
How do you want your cutscenes? Flash, Wmv, gif or as a part of the game engine (Require the user to do LUA)?
How do you want your cutscenes? Flash, Wmv, gif or as a part of the game engine (Require the user to do LUA)?
Wait nevermind, I just figured an easier way
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Nice Wiki page, MechaBowser. I've been working on Phoenix Write a lot, but I'm still never going to release the executable until it's at 0.9 beta stage. That'll be to fix any bugs and add final features. I'll release a video of the Phoenix Write interface some time this week.
Edit: Oh, forgot to tell you MechaBowser, your text solution isn't so great.
1. It'll be a pain in the ass to make it easy for the user.
2. It lags the game quite badly when lots of other objects are present.
3. Fonts cannot be selected.
Thank you for your help, nonetheless. I'm going to have to pursuit this a different way though.
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Shaun wrote:
If you don't want to be in a legal battle with Capcom (oh, the irony), I suggest you don't remake any existing Phoenix Wright cases. That's giving people content they should pay for, for free. I certainly won't accept any cases onto the system that do that.
Was just giving an example. Being able to reach the level of the original cases, or even surpass them, is what one would ultimately strive for.
Personally, I'll only make remakes of Capcom NES games.
Shaun: font's shouldn't be selectable, really.
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I see you have the text synching for characters that appear to talk with the speech bubbles.
Will you allow a second animation after the speech? Such as Phoenix blinking after he finishes talking?
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Kusanagi wrote:
Question from browsing the Wiki:
I see you have the text synching for characters that appear to talk with the speech bubbles.
Will you allow a second animation after the speech? Such as Phoenix blinking after he finishes talking?
I see you have the text synching for characters that appear to talk with the speech bubbles.
Will you allow a second animation after the speech? Such as Phoenix blinking after he finishes talking?
Yeah
And Shaun: This topic is about the Case Maker, not Phoenix Write. So please stay on topic.
Shaun wrote:
1. It'll be a pain in the ass to make it easy for the user.
2. It lags the game quite badly when lots of other objects are present.
2. It lags the game quite badly when lots of other objects are present.
What the f
How do you know
What I've seen sofar it doesn't lag at all, so be quite, you!
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Hell itself... That is coffee.
hotter and more bitter than
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CrawdKenny wrote:
Will we be able to edit the Psycho/Psyche lock animation? In my game, I'm just going to make that into an interrogation, so the locks would seem odd.
Well, psyche locks ain't a feature yet, but I believe when it is, you probably won't be able to change them.
But I can't tell yet
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I know that a simple formatted text object that supports tags (though, it's most likely possible to program that manually) would work a lot better than Text Blitter. And yes, it does lag. I got a 10fps increase when I removed it from my first PW engine test. That was on a dual core processor too. It doesn't like layers and alpha channels.
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Shaun wrote:
I know that a simple formatted text object that supports tags (though, it's most likely possible to program that manually) would work a lot better than Text Blitter. And yes, it does lag. I got a 10fps increase when I removed it from my first PW engine test. That was on a dual core processor too. It doesn't like layers and alpha channels.
???
It must be rape
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Phoenix Write IS a case maker, and actually, as you did not create this topic, it is not your choice. I am sure the members of this forum would like to hear about both programs.
Read topic title.
MECHABAWZAR'S CASE MAKAR
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Shaun wrote:
Why doesn't someone do the honour of creating a topic called "Shaun's Case Maker"? I'm sure we'd be keeping the forum cleaner if everything remained here though. As for the text, well done. But I'm not buying it. I know it has its faults. That's why I require a new extension.
Why dont you make it then
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I'm going to release that video soon guys, so chillax. I already said people can just PM me if they want to ask me something, but you all keep asking questions. Either that, or MechaBowser says something that doesn't make sense and I automatically start replying. ;)
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N-Mario wrote:
Don't know if this has been answered yet, but will we be able to make close up/zoom scenes with the flashy moving green background, like this?
http://www.court-records.net/animations ... x-zoom.gif
http://www.court-records.net/animations ... x-zoom.gif
Yeah, I've made a tutorial on how to do that.
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I'd be willing to try out any case makers that come out. I've learnt from previous experiences with RPG Maker and The Games Factory that sometimes it's about finding the shirt that fits your size...so to speak.
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SailorTaurus wrote:
Wow, and here was me thinking i'd have to wait until gaemakerstudio.net was finished to make Phoenix Wright fangames. =D
I'd be willing to try out any case makers that come out. I've learnt from previous experiences with RPG Maker and The Games Factory that sometimes it's about finding the shirt that fits your size...so to speak.
what was gamemakerstudio.net doing ?
I'd be willing to try out any case makers that come out. I've learnt from previous experiences with RPG Maker and The Games Factory that sometimes it's about finding the shirt that fits your size...so to speak.
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I was just planning to simply use the RPG Maker XP inspired components to make a PW fangame.
www.gamemakerstudio.net
But this is off topic, i'm still quite glad to see such programs (Case Makers) being made. =D
Props to Clicky for the avatar! =3
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So no more arguing about that!
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Nakuten Baisagy wrote:
this is now mechabowers casemaker AND Shawn's thread.
So no more arguing about that!
So no more arguing about that!
I'm gonna make my own threat when it's out anyways
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1) character animations. Try playing the Gyakuden Saiban Encyclopedia and see the animations, if you havn't. In Phoenix Wright, animations usually have two animation types for each animation - still, and talking. Still is no-talk, with blinking once in a while, talking is talking - with blinking once in a while. I hope this gets done accurately.
2) Second, placement of sprites. I havn't been ripping where they are located exactly, so that might be an issue.
3) Shaking. How accurate is this to the original? And does it, like in the original, not shake benches, for instance?
4) Timing. You are using 'milliseconds' to time, but I know this is a very bad idea. It should follow an internat counting of frames, so there won't be a large notable diffrence between a slow and fast computer.
5) Textboxes. Will it be possible to have diffrent texts, in the same textbox, go by at diffrent speeds?
6) Court branching. I'm not sure what you have, but it should be possible to branch the story.... call in diffrent witnesses, getting to the same point using diffrent evidence.... that kind of stuff.
7) Location and image presenting. Having an area where you can examine something or present within a certain treshold. How is this done? Can you assign non-square areas?
8) Rigidness. Can I do variables? if-then scenarios? physical charracter movement? Adding diffrent plot elements (like the investigation add-on in 2-4)?
9) Text grafics. How accurate are they? Are selection boxes for the lower screen set up right, for diffrent sizes? Can you assign own names to charracters easily? Are the normal text accurate?
10) Overview. If you have a testimoney, with 10 testimonies, all with objections and several evidences to be presented with..... it can be quite overwhelming. Is there some sort of overview for the progress?
11) How are error checking done?
12) Fade in-out charrecters and screens. Possible?
13) Change of grafics - and temp. removal of buttons - for the lower screen. Possible?
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Mikker wrote:
1) character animations. Try playing the Gyakuden Saiban Encyclopedia and see the animations, if you havn't. In Phoenix Wright, animations usually have two animation types for each animation - still, and talking. Still is no-talk, with blinking once in a while, talking is talking - with blinking once in a while. I hope this gets done accurately.
Works exactly like the real deal. And yeah, there's 2 sets of animations - basically what you want is what I have!
Mikker wrote:
2) Second, placement of sprites. I havn't been ripping where they are located exactly, so that might be an issue.
Yep. Your animation needs to have a size of 256x192 to get the exact location. Therefore I suggest using THIS PAGE: http://deufeufeu.free.fr/anims/animpw1.html for sprites.
Mikker wrote:
3) Shaking. How accurate is this to the original? And does it, like in the original, not shake benches, for instance?
I'm afraid to disappoint you here. The shaking shakes the whole window, the whole game. Sorry.
Mikker wrote:
4) Timing. You are using 'milliseconds' to time, but I know this is a very bad idea. It should follow an internat counting of frames, so there won't be a large notable diffrence between a slow and fast computer.
No it won't because the number of milliseconds are lowered on slower computers, aka, it runs the same.
And milliseconds are basically just 1/10 of a second.
Mikker wrote:
5) Textboxes. Will it be possible to have diffrent texts, in the same textbox, go by at diffrent speeds?
Yep.
Mikker wrote:
6) Court branching. I'm not sure what you have, but it should be possible to branch the story.... call in diffrent witnesses, getting to the same point using diffrent evidence.... that kind of stuff.
Working on it, but you most likely will.
Mikker wrote:
7) Location and image presenting. Having an area where you can examine something or present within a certain treshold. How is this done? Can you assign non-square areas?
Not completed yet, but I got the logic done and it works like that.
Non-square areas wut
Mikker wrote:
8) Rigidness. Can I do variables? if-then scenarios? physical charracter movement? Adding diffrent plot elements (like the investigation add-on in 2-4)?
Variables as in values?
And no physical character movement yet, SO-RY
Adding different plot elements? That's up to the user!
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9) Text grafics. How accurate are they? Are selection boxes for the lower screen set up right, for diffrent sizes? Can you assign own names to charracters easily? Are the normal text accurate?
Yes to pretty much everything
Mikker wrote:
10) Overview. If you have a testimoney, with 10 testimonies, all with objections and several evidences to be presented with..... it can be quite overwhelming. Is there some sort of overview for the progress?
Yep
Mikker wrote:
11) How are error checking done?
There's no errors! Errors can't be made. And if they are, the builder will go "wtf error u"
Mikker wrote:
12) Fade in-out charrecters and screens. Possible?
Yep
Mikker wrote:
13) Change of grafics - and temp. removal of buttons - for the lower screen. Possible?
Yep
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Also I made a remake of The First Turnabout. This should give you a clear view of what it's cabable of:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cil288
Enjoy.
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MechaBowser wrote:
Also I made a remake of The First Turnabout. This should give you a clear view of what it's cabable of:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cil288
Enjoy.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cil288
Enjoy.
WOW, and the court/trial scenes for this hasn't even been made here yet! I'm already excietd!
Also, how will the camera panning work, for scrolling from Prosecutor/Defense to the witness stand?
IIRC, the entire courtroom from left to right (from defense, to witness, to prosecution desk) is all attached to each other, as one single image when I ripped the background myself.
(Click to enlarge)
Is your case maker going to use the example above like this, or are the court blur lines going to be coded in a different way, rather than camera panning?
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with non-square areas I mean:
red is squre, green is non-square.
I should probably have made myself clearer on the investigation plot questoin. In 2-4 you get a detector to messure waves. Would this be possible to make within the confinements of the programming?
When I say 'variables', I mean making it gamemaker-ish. A real-in-game-case would be 2-4, shellys testimony. You need to press some of his other statements before you can go on with a previous statement - and move on with the game. Are you able to assign variables this way?
about the example case: ahaha! nice! Okay, criticism:
1) I like the way you did the shaking. It works better than I expected!
2) It goes a little fast for me.... is there any way you could have FPS limits in?
3) That arrow on the button pressing seems to move too far left and right.
4) No scanlines. Could be an option to disable it, but I think it needs to be there.
5) You CAN change the talking sound, right?
6) I have to say, the way you did the animations,text,sound everything - it worked out beutifully. I loved the ending as well!
Looks very accurate - and very nice. I have to say - I'm impressed.
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Mikker wrote:
Thanks, MechaBowser!
with non-square areas I mean:
red is squre, green is non-square.
with non-square areas I mean:
red is squre, green is non-square.
Oh yeah, you can do that.
Mikker wrote:
I should probably have made myself clearer on the investigation plot questoin. In 2-4 you get a detector to messure waves. Would this be possible to make within the confinements of the programming?
I haven't made it after the second case in JFA, so I can't tell
Mikker wrote:
When I say 'variables', I mean making it gamemaker-ish. A real-in-game-case would be 2-4, shellys testimony. You need to press some of his other statements before you can go on with a previous statement - and move on with the game. Are you able to assign variables this way?
Same as above
Mikker wrote:
1) I like the way you did the shaking. It works better than I expected!
Hurray!
Mikker wrote:
2) It goes a little fast for me.... is there any way you could have FPS limits in?
You mean the animations? The user could just go and edit his animation speed. No problem there.
Mikker wrote:
3) That arrow on the button pressing seems to move too far left and right.
Oh yeah. I had no example of how it actually looked, so I made it from memory
Mikker wrote:
4) No scanlines. Could be an option to disable it, but I think it needs to be there.
Just added it, right after I uploaded this file
Mikker wrote:
5) You CAN change the talking sound, right?
That's what I did in the first line!
Mikker wrote:
6) I have to say, the way you did the animations,text,sound everything - it worked out beutifully. I loved the ending as well!
Looks very accurate - and very nice. I have to say - I'm impressed.
Looks very accurate - and very nice. I have to say - I'm impressed.
I love you too <3
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