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Why do people say Phoenix is OoC? He's a snarky bastard in AJ, he was a snarky bastard in his own games. Difference is, his snarkiness was not limited to being his blue-thoughts-or-mumbles only.

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And keep in mind, he had seven years of offscreen carefree character development. That'll do it to you. What bugs me is why he reverted for Dual Destinies.
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And keep in mind, he had seven years of offscreen carefree character development. That'll do it to you. What bugs me is why he reverted for Dual Destinies.


Because he was made the protagonist again. We can't have an openly snarky protagonist! That would be entertaining and cool!

It's the same reason why Edgeworth holds the Idiot Ball in the GK games. Recall, Edgeworth generally had no stupid moments, but when he is made the protagonist in 3-5 and the GK games, he holds the idiot ball and gets things wrong and is everyone's punching bag of jokes.
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Well, playable characters have to have stupid moments, to account for mistakes the player can make. It just isn't entertaining to see a main character that's always on top of things.
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Well, playable characters have to have stupid moments, to account for mistakes the player can make. It just isn't entertaining to see a main character that's always on top of things.


Yeah but you don't change the personality of an established character like Edgeworth and make him seem stupid just cause he's the protagonist.

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Agreed. You don't just take Edgeworth and turn him into a Phoenix clone just because he's the protagonist.

Perhaps if they played it more like Professor Layton, where Edgeworth was always a step ahead... That could have been awesome.
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CatMuto wrote:
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Well, playable characters have to have stupid moments, to account for mistakes the player can make. It just isn't entertaining to see a main character that's always on top of things.


Yeah but you don't change the personality of an established character like Edgeworth and make him seem stupid just cause he's the protagonist.

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Agreed. You don't just take Edgeworth and turn him into a Phoenix clone just because he's the protagonist.

Perhaps if they played it more like Professor Layton, where Edgeworth was always a step ahead... That could have been awesome.


Uh, guys. How was his personality changed in any way? You can't just say he "changed" because he had to hold the Idiot Ball. The fact that it's forced onto him is played entirely for laughs, and it's not meant to redefine his character (the exception being in 3-5, where they didn't have another character to replace Nick). Even during his few moments as a defense attorney, he usually knew what his next step was, but it was up to the player when to follow through with it.

Same goes for his dad. Just because the player can make Gregory look the fool before VK doesn't mean anything. Greg takes the humiliation like a man.

As for how the GKs seems to turn him into a "Phoenix clone", the only similarity I can account for is his approach to his means of defense out of court. Sure, he's supposed to be a prosecutor, but that doesn't mean he can't perfect his investigations prior by playing D.A. once in a while.
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@Rubia: You see no difference between Edgeworth from the original trilogy and him in AAI?

-He talks differently (I think this is only the translation and not in the original Japanese, so depending on which you played, you may not have noticed it)
-He suddenly needs help with just about anything (where he used to be more independent and efficient)
-He uses different facial expressions (well, technically most of them are the same he had, but he uses them differently, i.e. uses his frowning and serious expressions less and his smiling expressions more)
-He suddenly gets a lot less respect and people treat him like a closse buddy or a child
-Where he used to be a casual closet fan, he now seemingly has 60% of his brain focussed on the Steel Samurai
-"Shall we see if the weapon matches the wound on this living person, because that's totally how it works, right?" (Still get a headache from that scene and the fact that it's presented as one of his intelligent moments)
-He used to be a very busy and hard-working man. Now, for some reason, he has (theoretically) plenty of spare time that is only taken up by his sudden and inexplainable tendency to have plot and/or crimes happening right under his nose wherever he happens to go.
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@Rubia: You see no difference between Edgeworth from the original trilogy and him in AAI?

-He talks differently (I think this is only the translation and not in the original Japanese, so depending on which you played, you may not have noticed it)
-He suddenly needs help with just about anything (where he used to be more independent and efficient)
-He uses different facial expressions (well, technically most of them are the same he had, but he uses them differently, i.e. uses his frowning and serious expressions less and his smiling expressions more)
-He suddenly gets a lot less respect and people treat him like a closse buddy or a child
-Where he used to be a casual closet fan, he now seemingly has 60% of his brain focussed on the Steel Samurai
-"Shall we see if the weapon matches the wound on this living person, because that's totally how it works, right?" (Still get a headache from that scene and the fact that it's presented as one of his intelligent moments)
-He used to be a very busy and hard-working man. Now, for some reason, he has (theoretically) plenty of spare time that is only taken up by his sudden and inexplainable tendency to have plot and/or crimes happening right under his nose wherever he happens to go.


- I've only played the game in English, but I have read through the script for the Japanese version. There isn't a very noticeable change in the way he talks (that I can see), so this is purely on the localization. I agree that he had been a bit stiffer during his previous appearances, but there's a lot of leeway for interpretation here.
- Not exactly. He does take a lot more time proceeding through his arguments, but gameplay mechanics and the character saturation in general should be taken into account. (I believe some of this "drag" has been improved in GK2, albeit just slightly.) It isn't a change to his character specifically, and his reliance on others isn't exaggerated so much that he'd be considered "dependent" on anyone.
- Okay, I'll give you this one, but it's an improvement - or perhaps I should say "development".
- Generally by his more familiar cohorts. Several new characters are introduced as those he's associated with, but that happens with retcons. His reactions to them are mixed anyhow.
- I leave that as an unfortunate side-effect of Flanderization, but it's still a very subtle tweak because a standard was never so clearly addressed in previous games... aside from 1-3, where he might as well have been too busy fanboying to make a proper investigation. That's as "unlike Edgeworth" as what I see of him in I-5... even more so, actually.
- Well, we have to give those guys in forensics something to do, right? :p (But seriously, they couldn't just say "let's wait for this guy to undergo surgical examination and hope nothing else goes wrong". It'd also be unnecessary addition from a writing perspective to drag it out any longer than all intentions need it be.)
- He still is. He's also just as unfortunate as ever to be rolled up into these kinds of cases. :/
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:egg: -OHJESUSGODNO. This guy is scary. That wretched animation (you know which one I'm talking about), his courtroom sprite, and....nightmare fuel......ugh

:acro: -I'm sorry. Really. I am. But I feel nothing. Nothing. For Acro. HE TRIED TO KILL HIS FATHER FIGURE'S DAUGHTER.

:junie: -Yep. I'm gonna get hate for this. I have always thought Juniper Woods was annoying as all hell. She was completely boring. She didn't even make an effort to help herself. AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO DEFEND HER TWICE!? And I swear to God, if I hear that cough again....

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:acro: -I'm sorry. Really. I am. But I feel nothing. Nothing. For Acro. HE TRIED TO KILL HIS FATHER FIGURE'S DAUGHTER.


You have a contradiction in your statement, Pal! So... OBJECTION! :object:

He didn't mean to kill his father. It was an accidental murder. He wanted to murder Regina, but because of one single wrong of Regina, Russell came to the scene instead of her, and, well, due to Acro cannot move or anything, was on the wheelchair, so without even looking down, he simply dropped the Bust.

Actually, he didn't "tried" to. He doesn't have a grudge against Russell. He has a grudge against his daughter..... Wait, is this just me, or haven't you completed JFA's Case 3?
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:udgey: That's exactly what NoReally said. He wanted to kill his father figure's (aka Russel's) daughter. Says so right there in the part you quoted.
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:acro: -I'm sorry. Really. I am. But I feel nothing. Nothing. For Acro. HE TRIED TO KILL HIS FATHER FIGURE'S DAUGHTER.


You have a contradiction in your statement, Pal! So... OBJECTION! :object:

He didn't mean to kill his father. It was an accidental murder. He wanted to murder Regina, but because of one single wrong of Regina, Russell came to the scene instead of her, and, well, due to Acro cannot move or anything, was on the wheelchair, so without even looking down, he simply dropped the Bust.

Actually, he didn't "tried" to. He doesn't have a grudge against Russell. He has a grudge against his daughter..... Wait, is this just me, or haven't you completed JFA's Case 3?


Read it again. I bolded it for you, so you can see that there's an "'s" next to Father Figure.

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What bothered me about Acro was how quick they were to give him sympathy. That's one thing I hate about how they portray the law in video games. A lot of it ends up being pretty black and white. You're either good or bad, wrong or right. Although they changed up for that case, they definitely used the WRONG case to play the sympathy card. Case 1-3 should have leaned more towards that direction.
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CatMuto wrote:
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NoReally o.O wrote:
:acro: -I'm sorry. Really. I am. But I feel nothing. Nothing. For Acro. HE TRIED TO KILL HIS FATHER FIGURE'S DAUGHTER.


You have a contradiction in your statement, Pal! So... OBJECTION! :object:

He didn't mean to kill his father. It was an accidental murder. He wanted to murder Regina, but because of one single wrong of Regina, Russell came to the scene instead of her, and, well, due to Acro cannot move or anything, was on the wheelchair, so without even looking down, he simply dropped the Bust.

Actually, he didn't "tried" to. He doesn't have a grudge against Russell. He has a grudge against his daughter..... Wait, is this just me, or haven't you completed JFA's Case 3?


Read it again. I bolded it for you, so you can see that there's an "'s" next to Father Figure.

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PS: Oh and NoReally, don't worry. You're not the only one who doesn't give a crap about Acro.


...Oh. But everyone in here hates Regina rather than Acro. Well, Regina is the one whom almost killed Bat by a Scarf full of Pepper. I am not here to create an argument, but I do want NoReally to Testify that whether she likes Regina or not... :edgeworth:

Because, I suspect that she likes Regina. She stated that "Acro tried to kill His Father Figure's Daughter". Which exactly means that Acro tried to kill Regina. Now, why would he kill Regina? Probably because for the vengeance. Vengeance for putting his bro into Coma. This leds to believe me one thing that, NoReally likes Regina. It's bloody common sense. :nick:
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:udgey: That's exactly what NoReally said. He wanted to kill his father figure's (aka Russel's) daughter. Says so right there in the part you quoted.
I'm afraid I'll have to give you a penalty. *exclamation point explodes*


Waaaargh! How could I gone so wrong? :ack:

Wait. Why do I start to get the nagging feeling that NoReally likes Regina? :eh?:
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What bothered me about Acro was how quick they were to give him sympathy. That's one thing I hate about how they portray the law in video games. A lot of it ends up being pretty black and white. You're either good or bad, wrong or right. Although they changed up for that case, they definitely used the WRONG case to play the sympathy card. Case 1-3 should have leaned more towards that direction.


Exactly. What I love about the law is that it is NOT black-white. Everything is a shade of gray and it's very easy to slip from one gray into another gray area. It's so interesting, trying to see where exactly, for example, self-defense ends and deliberate harm begins.

Yes, 1-3 was a terrible case to portray the "sympathetic murderer" idea. Especially since, technically, we already had Dee Vasquez perform self-defense in 1-3 and she could've been sympathetic. Acro is not sympathetic. He harbored a whiny attitude and refused to even TRY to explain something to Regina.

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Well, Regina is the one whom almost killed Bat by a Scarf full of Pepper.


WHO almost killed Bat, goddammit. Check your grammar, please! :ron:

And hello? Did I say Regina's behavior is good? No. I flat out explained WHY her behavior is "understandable", given the way she was raised and how she sees the world. I never said it was good or excused her actions. She needs a reality check, I will not deny that. But that doesn't excuse Acros' behavior, either.

He saw Regina grow up (since he's, what, a few years older than she, he was either around when she was born or came to the circus when she was a toddler) and how her world was formed. He should KNOW by then how she sees things. And if she doesn't see what consequences her actions did, well, how about explaining that to her? He doesn't. Acro just decides to mope around about it. Does he tell her that it hurts him when she happens to say something that might come across as insensitive about Bat? No. He just stews in his wheelchair about how insensitive she is.

It's the same problem as in Tales of the Abyss. The party has knowledge that Luke doesn't, yet nobody tells him anything. And when something terrible happens, they solely blame HIM for it, although they had knowledge that might have shattered his world-view enough to not blindly trust someone. (Not that I think that, if they had told him anything, it would've WORKED, given how he trusts someone so much - but at least I could say they TRIED to do something)

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PS: Also, I don't hate Regina more than Acro or vice-versa. I hate both of them.
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Ace Pointer wrote:
You have a contradiction in your statement, Pal! So... OBJECTION! :object:

Ace Pointer wrote:
Wait, is this just me, or haven't you completed JFA's Case 3?

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I do want NoReally to Testify that whether she likes Regina or not... :edgeworth:

Ace Pointer wrote:
It's bloody common sense. :nick:

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Waaaargh! How could I gone so wrong? :ack:

Hot damn. Pipe down a little.

Ace Pointer wrote:
I do want NoReally to Testify that whether she likes Regina or not... :edgeworth:

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Because, I suspect that she likes Regina.

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This leds to believe me one thing that, NoReally likes Regina.

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Wait. Why do I start to get the nagging feeling that NoReally likes Regina? :eh?:

Why do you even care so much. Different people like different characters for different reasons. You're REALLY making it seem like NoReally isn't allowed to like Regina, and you're taking her head-on. I already told you how bad behavior like this is.

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She stated that "Acro tried to kill His Father Figure's Daughter". Which exactly means that Acro tried to kill Regina. Now, why would he kill Regina? Probably because for the vengeance. Vengeance for putting his bro into Coma. This leds to believe me one thing that, NoReally likes Regina.

What sort of jump in logic is this? I honestly can't even follow you here.

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What bothered me about Acro was how quick they were to give him sympathy. That's one thing I hate about how they portray the law in video games. A lot of it ends up being pretty black and white. You're either good or bad, wrong or right. Although they changed up for that case, they definitely used the WRONG case to play the sympathy card. Case 1-3 should have leaned more towards that direction.

Really? I always thought they addressed morality pretty well in almost all cases. They really had varying degree of judgment for the killer, in my opinion.
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She stated that "Acro tried to kill His Father Figure's Daughter". Which exactly means that Acro tried to kill Regina. Now, why would he kill Regina? Probably because for the vengeance. Vengeance for putting his bro into Coma. This leds to believe me one thing that, NoReally likes Regina.

What sort of jump in logic is this? I honestly can't even follow you here.


Didn't Acro/Franziska/Whatever mentioned in 2-3 that Bat has been on coma since after that "Pepper Incident"? Or are you saying that is a scandal? What do you think about that, a nonsense or something? I can't even agree with you there. Besides, Regina put so much pepper on the scarf, that made the Lion sneeze and bite Bat, which put him to coma. Meanwhile, Regina is laughing really happily (as if she wanted Bat to die) when she was saying to Acro that his brother became a star in the sky. And because of this, Acro wanted to take his revenge on Regina.

:judge: :Got it now? *sigh* I'm afraid I'll have to penalize you for your foolishness. *exclamation point explodes*
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Is it wrong that I'm laughing throughout this conversation above? It's like it's come straight out of a comedy skit.

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She stated that "Acro tried to kill His Father Figure's Daughter". Which exactly means that Acro tried to kill Regina. Now, why would he kill Regina? Probably because for the vengeance. Vengeance for putting his bro into Coma. This leds to believe me one thing that, NoReally likes Regina.

What sort of jump in logic is this? I honestly can't even follow you here.


Didn't Acro/Franziska/Whatever mentioned in 2-3 that Bat has been on coma since after that "Pepper Incident"? Or are you saying that is a scandal? What do you think about that, a nonsense or something? I can't even agree with you there. Besides, Regina put so much pepper on the scarf, that made the Lion sneeze and bite Bat, which put him to coma. Meanwhile, Regina is laughing really happily (as if she wanted Bat to die) when she was saying to Acro that his brother became a star in the sky. And because of this, Acro wanted to take his revenge on Regina.

:judge: :Got it now? *sigh* I'm afraid I'll have to penalize you for your foolishness. *exclamation point explodes*

He wasn't talking about the case. He's just asking why you have to insist that NoReally likes Regina.

And I'm just here wondering why you sound so upset over it. Maybe it's just me?
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Really? I always thought they addressed morality pretty well in almost all cases. They really had varying degree of judgment for the killer, in my opinion.


They didn't... it's always black and white. Maybe one smidge of gray there, but other than that, morality is never brought up. They say that even if someone pleads self-defense and gets off on that sentence, they still admit to killing a person (...in self-defense. Which is a legit issue, if you fight someone while fearing for your life, you have the right to do whatever you can UNTIL THE DANGER IS OVER. So if you get the attacker on the ground and not holding a weapon anymore, that's as far as you can go before you step out of the boundary of self-defense.) and act like that is like walking around with a huge sign on their chest saying "I KILLED A MAN AND I LIKED IT!! I DRANK HIS BLOOD WHILE HE DIED!!"

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Don't forget that the setting of the place is still Japan / a Japanese-culture-laden location, where even a case of self-defense can attract a lot of bad publicity. Once the public gets word in a slightly skewed way because a certain media source decided to "exaggerate" it a bit, the results can be devastating.

Chalk another one up to localization for completely skipping over this point.
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Didn't Acro/Franziska/Whatever mentioned in 2-3 that Bat has been on coma since after that "Pepper Incident"? Or are you saying that is a scandal? What do you think about that, a nonsense or something? I can't even agree with you there. Besides, Regina put so much pepper on the scarf, that made the Lion sneeze and bite Bat, which put him to coma. Meanwhile, Regina is laughing really happily (as if she wanted Bat to die) when she was saying to Acro that his brother became a star in the sky. And because of this, Acro wanted to take his revenge on Regina.

:judge: :Got it now? *sigh* I'm afraid I'll have to penalize you for your foolishness. *exclamation point explodes*

I'm afraid the only one being foolish here is you...

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Is it wrong that I'm laughing throughout this conversation above? It's like it's come straight out of a comedy skit.

I don't blame you... I am really trying my best to have a proper discussion, but... I guess I am failing on that front.

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He wasn't talking about the case. He's just asking why you have to insist that NoReally likes Regina.

Yes! Thank you! On top of that, Ace Pointer's reasoning just doesn't make sense to me. How did he derive that NoReally likes Regina from what she said?

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And I'm just here wondering why you sound so upset over it. Maybe it's just me?

Deeeefinitely not just you.

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They didn't... it's always black and white. Maybe one smidge of gray there, but other than that, morality is never brought up. They say that even if someone pleads self-defense and gets off on that sentence, they still admit to killing a person (...in self-defense. Which is a legit issue, if you fight someone while fearing for your life, you have the right to do whatever you can UNTIL THE DANGER IS OVER. So if you get the attacker on the ground and not holding a weapon anymore, that's as far as you can go before you step out of the boundary of self-defense.) and act like that is like walking around with a huge sign on their chest saying "I KILLED A MAN AND I LIKED IT!! I DRANK HIS BLOOD WHILE HE DIED!!"

They say that self-defense is admitting to killing a person? If I recall, only Phoenix said that, which is why he didn't want to plead that. And he wasn't wrong about this. Maya wouldn't have been able to live with herself, even if it was a self-defense verdict.
Anyway, that wasn't 100% what I was referring to. When Phoenix had finally proved who was the real killer, they often have different judgments for that person with varying degrees of 'evil'. Notable examples are
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how the Judge was sad to see how Gant had changed from how he knew him. Or how everyone eventually was convinced Engarde was the most evil of evil. The same goes for Dahlia. And of course, then there's Acro.

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And he wasn't wrong about this. Maya wouldn't have been able to live with herself, even if it was a self-defense verdict.


Because she's weak. :ron:

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When Phoenix had finally proved who was the real killer, they often have different judgments for that person with varying degrees of 'evil'.


They don't. They don't treat it as any different evil. Detective Conan does that better and that series has been so stale you can predict victim (always the asshole) and who it is (least likely person) practically from the get-go. That one included cases that were legitimately sad or the point where the killer could not be seen as evil for his reason behind it (except he killed).
Ugh I'm too tired to properly explain.

Also. Dahlia. Seriously? Nobody thought Dahlia was worth any saving grace. The only person who was horrified was Feenie who we have established is the epitome of pussified love and the other was Terri who seems to have the brain of a child, so he can't be properly counted.

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When Phoenix had finally proved who was the real killer, they often have different judgments for that person with varying degrees of 'evil'.


They don't. They don't treat it as any different evil. Detective Conan does that better and that series has been so stale you can predict victim (always the asshole) and who it is (least likely person) practically from the get-go. That one included cases that were legitimately sad or the point where the killer could not be seen as evil for his reason behind it (except he killed).

If you're referring to how "black and white" they treat the concept of first-degree murder is, it's true to an extent. But then, I'd like to ask from where you base your claims on.
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Rarely are the sentences of the convicted addressed in these games, but for a few of these prisoners - Dahlia, Enguarde, Blackquill - only one of them was actually executed shortly after she was imprisoned. Blackquill escaped his execution after spending 7 years in prison. For Enguarde, we have no idea how long he would stay in prison, but since he chose it over going free and being killed, his sentence likely was life-long imprisonment without the death penalty.

But in any case, these trials are all held in lower courts, so even those pronounced guilty are still passed up to a higher court's decision, where they may receive the sentences. Therefore, the games don't make any statement whatsoever about the relative nature of that "evil". It's entirely glossed over.
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Because she's weak. :ron:

Okay...? I am not sure how this either attempts to counter me or even adds to the discussion?

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They don't. They don't treat it as any different evil. Detective Conan does that better and that series has been so stale you can predict victim (always the asshole) and who it is (least likely person) practically from the get-go. That one included cases that were legitimately sad or the point where the killer could not be seen as evil for his reason behind it (except he killed).
Ugh I'm too tired to properly explain.

Not having seen anything from Detective Conan, I can't really make the comparison myself. So, all I can take from this is you saying "They don't" whereas I gave a few examples where they actually do.

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Also. Dahlia. Seriously? Nobody thought Dahlia was worth any saving grace.

Uhm? Yes? That's exactly what I am saying? Dahlia was on the side of "very very evil", alongside Engarde, but contrasting Gant and and especially Acro.
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Gant has en ego problem and no, nothing they told me of how he was before SL-9 made me think he really changed THAT much since. LANA changed more than he did and she had a pretty terrible reason to base her change on. And Acro, as I have previously stated, is an idiot. I don't see him as black or white or gray, I just see him in the idiot category. (Right alongside Frank who commits murder so he won't be found out for B&E, what a dumbass)

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But the topic of discussion wasn't what you thought of the criminals, but how other people treated the criminals, and how they're judged differently by the characters. Specifically, whether or not the crimes are seen in a very black-and-white way.
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:kay: I don't HATE her, just don't LIKE her. She's very neutral for me and at times, rubs me the wrong way. I generally Like ALL the AA chars, and since I don't feel anything for Kay, she is my least favourite I suppose. To me, she just felt wholly unnecessary, and was just created to appease that light hearted assistant girl role. (When personally, they should have just made Gumshoe fill that role).

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When I think about my least favorite character, I take in consideration the character that entertain me the least. And that would be Wendy Oldbag.
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I'm starting to dislike Shelly de Killer more and more. He's annoying and stupid and he called Maya an "item" for no reason other than being a bitch and he's stupid and he kills people for a living and has a fucked up moral code and is stupid.
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I dunno how many of y'all have said this, but without a doubt for me it's Ben and Trilo. Most of the characters in that case are flawed (and not in a good way) but Ben and Trilo stand head and shoulders above the rest for me in terms of annoyance. Moe is downright enjoyable in comparison.
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I dunno how many of y'all have said this, but without a doubt for me it's Ben and Trilo. Most of the characters in that case are flawed (and not in a good way) but Ben and Trilo stand head and shoulders above the rest for me in terms of annoyance. Moe is downright enjoyable in comparison.


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Well,there's a few people.
This :redd:
This :april:
This :chef:


And this :edgeworth:

Wait...



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Well,there's a few people.
This :redd:
This :april:
This :chef:


And this :edgeworth:

Wait...



....oh shit.

Wow, i can't seriously believe that a fangirl of AA would hate Edgey.
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I personally don't like Maya. Don't get me wrong, she's can be a great character times, but she's usually just there to tick you off when you get near the climax of the game.

I like Maya at times but most of the time I don't. Out of all the sidekicks so far, my favourite would be Ema. I know Ema's pretty much a clone of Maya, but I just like Ema more for some odd reason.
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C0SM1C-ECL1PSE wrote:
I personally don't like Maya. Don't get me wrong, she's can be a great character times, but she's usually just there to tick you off when you get near the climax of the game.

I like Maya at times but most of the time I don't. Out of all the sidekicks so far, my favourite would be Ema. I know Ema's pretty much a clone of Maya, but I just like Ema more for some odd reason.

Me too, Cosmic. Except I most of the time hate AJ Ema because she's super rude. I only liked the GS & GK Ema. :ema:
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