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Officer 1BDI wrote:
Where did those pages come from, out of morbid curiosity?
They're from Balgus REC's series of Gyakuten Saiban doujinshi. They're mainly GS2-centric. They also don't take 1-5 into account.
The basic plotline (I've promised to do a full write up but here are the basics) is that Phoenix and Edgeworth actually ended up in a relationship after 1-4. Edgeworth eventually panicked and bolted, leaving behind that suicide note. (There's also a really awesome scene showing where Edgeworth gets in touch with Gumshoe, and tells Gumshoe not to let Phoenix know...and Phoenix is standing right behind Gumshoe. He gets the most anguished look in his eyes and, when Gumshoe ridiculously protests the guy on the phone isn't "Mr. Edgeworth", he responds "I know. Edgeworth is dead, right?") Then Edgeworth comes back in 2-4, and acts like nothing has happened, which hurts Phoenix even more. The doujinshika use Adrian as a way to get across just how much Phoenix really means to Edgeworth, and then there is a wonderful scene where they settle things and Edgeworth confesses the way he feels.
After that, comes Sienna, which has been scanned and shared many times. It is the shining jewel in the collection for sure, even though everything else is excellent, Sienna is just...
Let me put it this way. I paid over 100 dollars for this collected edition--it's all bound in a single book, which is why I'm not willing to break and scanlate the entire thing--but I would have paid that for Sienna ALONE.
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Thank you so much for scanning these wonderful pages 
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musouka wrote:
Officer 1BDI wrote:
Where did those pages come from, out of morbid curiosity?
They're from Balgus REC's series of Gyakuten Saiban doujinshi. They're mainly GS2-centric. They also don't take 1-5 into account.
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Let me put it this way. I paid over 100 dollars for this collected edition--it's all bound in a single book, which is why I'm not willing to break and scanlate the entire thing--but I would have paid that for Sienna ALONE.
That book sounds awesome (and, yeah, after $100+ dollars I completely understand why you can only scan a few pages; thank you for those, by the way). I'm rather tempted to hunt it down myself.
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ESPECIALLY after you payed $100 dollars for the whole thing!
Where did you get it?? Totally going to save up $100.
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I_R_Unorthodox wrote:
^ X3 THANK YOU FOR SCANNING THOSE PAGES!
ESPECIALLY after you payed $100 dollars for the whole thing!
Where did you get it?? Totally going to save up 50 pounds.
ESPECIALLY after you payed $100 dollars for the whole thing!
Where did you get it?? Totally going to save up 50 pounds.
I happened to find someone selling it on livejournal, and got into a (kind of hilarious) bidding war with the ever-lovely Coyotesaskia. Since it's a doujinshi, you're not going to be able to find it in a store. Your best bet is keeping an eye on ebay, or looking when other people say they're selling Gyakuten Saiban doujinshi. Hopefully you won't have to pay as much as I did, but it was worth every penny.
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As amazing and wonderful as all the plotty bits are, if I had to choose my favorite single page out of this collection, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE IT. (So ridiculously hot)
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Really a beautiful Page , and so romantic
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I happened to find someone selling it on livejournal, and got into a (kind of hilarious) bidding war with the ever-lovely Coyotesaskia. Since it's a doujinshi, you're not going to be able to find it in a store. Your best bet is keeping an eye on ebay, or looking when other people say they're selling Gyakuten Saiban doujinshi. Hopefully you won't have to pay as much as I did, but it was worth every penny.
XDDD I´m sorry. It was quite good that you got it though, i guess that i wouldn´t have scanned it ( or translated ).
So I´m glad you share a bit of these
There can´t be anough Phoenix/Miles Romance
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musouka wrote:
I_R_Unorthodox wrote:
^ X3 THANK YOU FOR SCANNING THOSE PAGES!
ESPECIALLY after you payed $100 dollars for the whole thing!
Where did you get it?? Totally going to save up 50 pounds.
ESPECIALLY after you payed $100 dollars for the whole thing!
Where did you get it?? Totally going to save up 50 pounds.
I happened to find someone selling it on livejournal, and got into a (kind of hilarious) bidding war with the ever-lovely Coyotesaskia. Since it's a doujinshi, you're not going to be able to find it in a store. Your best bet is keeping an eye on ebay, or looking when other people say they're selling Gyakuten Saiban doujinshi. Hopefully you won't have to pay as much as I did, but it was worth every penny.
lol damn. That makes it harder. XD
Glad you think that, about the price!
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I wanna see some Gumshoe/Edgeworth art...
Toufu-ya has quite a bit of cute art for those two. Just click the link to the right marked "倉庫" and it'll take you to the gallery.
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musouka wrote:
This is Sienna, warning, does contain somewhat minor GS3 spoilers if you can't read Japanese, and MAJOR ones if you can:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cnjmitldggy
http://www.mediafire.com/?cnjmitldggy
lol Minor then. xD
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And then, on the sidelines, Fransziska would rip Phoenix a new one within the first five minutes.
Just out of curiousity, do you guys see Edgey as seme or uke? I'm pandering to stereotypes here, but feel free to ramble on about your own personal canon (Much like Suekane-san saying he'd go shopping for body lotions and all the latest lawyer fashions, ahahaha), 'cause I'm interested
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...but I do have a guilty pleasure of liking a submissive Phoenix in just a wee bit more, from time to time. hehehehehe. *smirk*
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Yes, Edgeworth is bold and commanding. In court. And somehow I doubt he and Phoenix will be having hot hot man-sex. In court. Outside of court, when trying to deal with people in a personal setting, he's hesitant, reserved, and clumsy. He can make elaborate speeches about "what it means to be a lawyer" (WIMTBAL) but he has to stutter his way though asking if Phoenix is feeling all right.
Now, that in itself down't make him a "bottom". I don't believe there's any set personality trait that makes people a "bottom" or a "top". But Edgeworth bottoming to me makes sense because of that innate contradiction in his personality. Looking at Edgeworth, he seems like the quintessential "top". He's forceful (in court), witty, and a snappy dresser. He's richer than Phoenix. He's even taller than Phoenix.
But we know from playing the games that he's not just a rich, smart, with-it guy. Edgeworth's appearances are always deceiving. There's always that other side to him. And I just think it's more interesting emotionally and as a character if the guy who, at first glance, seems like the "top"...isn't.
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I'm going to throw up my hand as a Seme!Edgeworth fan. Which...is odd, because in the majority of the fics I've written, he's ended up on bottom. But in my mind they're a switch pairing, and those instances are less frequent than Edgey topping... does that makes sense!?
After the first game, I totally see why everyone loves Uke!Edgey so much. He's certainly the more emotional and vulnerable of the two, at the time. But I just love Edgey so much in JFA, where he swoops in and takes control. All his smirking and leading Phoenix on--and Phoenix responding to it--put it in my head that Edgeworth is better in a dominant role, in the bedroom if no where else. And I can't shake it!
Not to mention that in GS3, Phoenix is such a pansy when dealing with romance. He was a lovesick romantic fool when he was younger, and his "ME NO LIKE EDGEY NO MORE" tantrum in JFA only supports that. I think maybe he would be more comfortable with the concept of love itself than Edgeworth, but I don't see him as all that experienced. I think he would welcome Edgeworth leading them sexually.
And despite all the "Edgeworth is an island" talk in this thead, I refuse to believe that Edgeworth doesn't get laid. He's guarded about his personal life, of course. He's rude and unpleasant before Phoenix helps open him up, and still kind of a jerk afterwards. But none of those things necessarily keep you from getting laid when you're a smoking hot, super-genius rich kid in law school. It's not like he's socially inept--he's just an arrogant, elitist asshat (especially 3-4 mini-worth). And in my experience those people seem to get way more sex than nice guys like Phoenix :B
I guess I should actually WRITE Edgeworth topping... >.>
Other yaoi pairings I like are:
Gumshoe/Edgeworth - Which is kinda funny, but I love fumbly Gumshoe sex. My secret bear-appreciation is showing <.<
Gant/Karma - Old men are the new bish, seriously.
Zenitora/Matt - Nevermind that they don't meet, and Zeni's twice Matt's age, and it's otherwise mostly crack. THESE THINGS DO NOT DETER ME HERE.
Kyouya/Odoroki - I shouldn't say I support this couple, because I'm not at all decided on it. The game doesn't really support it much, but I think I would like to play around with the two and see what comes out.
There's a few others I support in concept and not necessarily execution, and some I just want to have dirty dirty sex, but this post is long enough so I'll stop here for now :B.
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After the first game, I totally see why everyone loves Uke!Edgey so much. He's certainly the more emotional and vulnerable of the two, at the time. But I just love Edgey so much in JFA, where he swoops in and takes control. All his smirking and leading Phoenix on--and Phoenix responding to it--put it in my head that Edgeworth is better in a dominant role, in the bedroom if no where else. And I can't shake it!
Hahaha, as much as I loved Edgeworth in JfA, too, I have to admit... when everything was finally winding down and the crisis was over, when he reverted back to being stammering and uncertain around people--I was really happy. It's just my take, but I wasn't too crazy about the idea that this deeply emotionally damaged person could simply take off for a year and swoop back in like Superman, confident and in control. So I was glad to see that even with his new understanding with his role in court and the purpose of the judicial system, when it came to relating to others, he was still very awkward.
Because it's true that he's very dominating and controlling when it comes to, as musouka mentioned, What It Means To Be A Lawyer, his workplace, and things related to that. But consistently throughout all three games, when he's forced to relate to people as people and as another person, he falters, badly--JfA included.
It's just a bit hard for me to parse in my mind--where Edgeworth would stop his habit of stammering and being clumsy in social situations, to suddenly being confident romantically and sexually.
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It's not like he's socially inept--he's just an arrogant, elitist asshat
Personally, I think of Edgeworth as being incredibly socially inept. He can't say "thank you" or "are you all right" without stammering, he genuinely and honestly takes Maya's very silly advice on how to communicate because he doesn't know otherwise. He has no idea how to gracefully accept or extend concern. He can't even take simple appreciation without starting to panic, as Lana showed in 1-5...
Those things show a level of personal weakness that go beyond just being arrogant and elitist, I think.
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Personally, I see Miles as the public seme, but Phoenix as the shadow seme of the relationship. Miles would be the one to be sharp, sarcastic and on the ball in court (Which makes up about 70% of their lives, if not more) but if Phoenix ever said 'Don't do this' or 'We should do that', Miles inevitably would. Also, I don't see the ever-proud Edgeworth being comfortable with the idea of being seen in the 'weaker' role. Phoenix would be a lot more comfortable with the idea
But, to go for the uke!Miles side, Phoenix was a sort of guide and/or leader for him in his work-life and WIMTBAL (I swear Edgey's speech on his return in JFA was prepared and memorised during his entire flight over :B), so why not in the other side of things, like relationships?
So I guess I'm going to have to go with secret option number 3: INTERCHANGABLE
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As amazing and wonderful as all the plotty bits are, if I had to choose my favorite single page out of this collection, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE IT. (So ridiculously hot)
It looks like someone has scanlated it.. or did it come in english originally? XD either way, does anyone have these scans to share?
Gosh that page is hot/adorable.
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But another reason is, while it can be said when outside the court and dealing with people he can be awkward, From what I gathered, once he knows people a long time/ well enough, he seems to be in control again. Like in that damn airport scene when he goes after fran (whom he's know since he was... 9? That's what I understood anyway. Either way, a long time) he doesn't seem at all awkward.
Bacically my point is by the time anything got to a "romantic" level he'd be pretty relaxed around that person. So probably more dominating.
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Personally, I think of Edgeworth as being incredibly socially inept. He can't say "thank you" or "are you all right" without stammering, he genuinely and honestly takes Maya's very silly advice on how to communicate because he doesn't know otherwise. He has no idea how to gracefully accept or extend concern. He can't even take simple appreciation without starting to panic, as Lana showed in 1-5...
Those things show a level of personal weakness that go beyond just being arrogant and elitist, I think.
Those things show a level of personal weakness that go beyond just being arrogant and elitist, I think.
And of course, he was raised since he was 9 by Manfred von Karma for the sole purpose of destroying him later.
As we've seen with dear Franny, the Von Karma siblings are not the poster children for emotional maturity.
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Also, I don't see the ever-proud Edgeworth being comfortable with the idea of being seen in the 'weaker' role.
Setting aside the idea of the "bottom is the weaker role"...
That idea sort of bothers me. I've seen it being bandied about before--and yes, Edgeworth is full of pride and doesn't like being seen as weak--but isn't part of loving someone allowing them to see all of you? Including your "weak points"? If the bedroom becomes a scene for power-play...then I begin to wonder where the love is in their relationship, if Edgeworth is still so guarded even when they're alone that he can't trust Phoenix. I also think the games have proven that he does have that trust in Phoenix, and hopefully whoever else you'd want to see him in bed with (bad P/E fangirl, bad!). I think he'd set his court persona aside and allow himself to be the awkward, "real Edgeworth" even if it's difficult for him.
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It looks like someone has scanlated it.. or did it come in english originally? XD either way, does anyone have these scans to share?
It was scanlated by me. ^^;; That's probably the last of the scans I'll share. Maybe a few random pictures if I can get to them without breaking the spine (further).
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But another reason is, while it can be said when outside the court and dealing with people he can be awkward, From what I gathered, once he knows people a long time/ well enough, he seems to be in control again. Like in that damn airport scene when he goes after fran (whom he's know since he was... 9? That's what I understood anyway. Either way, a long time) he doesn't seem at all awkward.
But keep in mind, that was him helping her on her path as a lawyer. Yes, he is comfortable with her--he was raised alongside her after all, Fran is unique in that regard--but as 3-5 proves, when it comes to emotional matters outside of WIMTBAL, she IS the "big sister" in some respects. I love the scene where both she and Phoenix share a knowing and slightly adorable "rolls eyes" moment over Edgeworth's melodramatic excess.
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And of course, he was raised since he was 9 by Manfred von Karma for the sole purpose of destroying him later.
As we've seen with dear Franny, the Von Karma siblings are not the poster children for emotional maturity.
As we've seen with dear Franny, the Von Karma siblings are not the poster children for emotional maturity.
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But he doesn't have any problem talking to Franziska. He doesn't stammer or show awkwardness when docking Gumshoe's pay, or in much of the investigation phase of 3-5 he participates in. He has trouble expressing gratitude, appreciation, and concern, sure--he's not used to dealing with people in situations that require real sensitivity or care, because he's not used to caring about people. But I don't see that as being the same as social awkwardness. He can communicate on an impersonal level just fine, because that's what his job mostly requires.
Which is why I don't have any problem imagining Edgeworth indulging in a one night stand here or there (in his college years, probably not after he's a prosecutor). Young Edgey in 3-4, arguably when he's most strongly under Karma's influence, is still a cock-sure little son of a gun. Now, if Phoenix had confronted him them he probably would have gone into Angst-Mode like in 2-4, because it raises memories of his past etc. But if there was a fellow student at law school he could sleep with, no strings attached, no long-lasting emotion, no need to bring the past into it at all?
I mean, there's a butt-ton of yaoi about man-sluts who turn into wibbly-goo when they find someone they actually care about. Not to say Edgey's a man slut, of course, I'm just saying that if Edgeworth's comfort zone stops just before "dealing with people I might sort of almost give a shit about" that doesn't mean casual sex is outside that barrier. Watching him change his colors depending on company and situation is what makes him so much of an interesting character (for me).
And, that being the case, I can see Phoenix being happy to let the more experienced Edgeworth take the lead sexually, once they're out of the awkward beginning phase of their relationship.
(Not that Phoenix couldn't still be the initiator, since that sort of thing isn't necessarily static when dealing with positions... I can't imagine Edgeworth topping Gumshoe, but I think he would always be the aggressor. You CAN be an aggressive uke, Commerically Released Yaoi Authors!! I WILL make you learn this!! *beats with yaoi paddles*)
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It has nothing to do with his confidence in the realm of LAWYERDOM... because as far as I can tell, that confidence doesn't apply to personal relationships at all.
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But he doesn't have any problem talking to Franziska. He doesn't stammer or show awkwardness when docking Gumshoe's pay, or in much of the investigation phase of 3-5 he participates in. He has trouble expressing gratitude, appreciation, and concern, sure--he's not used to dealing with people in situations that require real sensitivity or care, because he's not used to caring about people. But I don't see that as being the same as social awkwardness. He can communicate on an impersonal level just fine, because that's what his job mostly requires.
Franziska is his sister, and someone with a unique understanding of his life and his perspective, since they grew up together for, what, eleven years? She's an exception, not the rule, and part of what makes their relationship unique is that he does feel a bit more comfortable with her. And as musouka mentioned above, even when he's talking to her, it's still mostly about the dynamics of being a lawyer and what that means.
Docking Gumshoe's pay is work. Working in the investigation phase is, well, work. In that same investigation phase he stammers asking about Phoenix and shows the same defensiveness about his personal weaknesses as he did back in 1-4... I'm not sure how a person who can only speak confidently when it's about their profession isn't socially awkward.
But you know, I actually think we're saying exactly the same thing, just disagreeing about how to frame it. Edgeworth is confident and forceful when it comes to work, and impersonal communications, exactly as you've said. But romance isn't impersonal. Especially with Phoenix. Again, I can't really see in my mind where he'd stop the stammering and averting his eyes and start the 'taking control'. As you said, it's about Edgeworth responding in different ways depending on the situation he's in.
As far as experience goes, there's not a whole lot to actually go on. Personally, in my head, he's head a few one-night stands, too. But there's just not enough to go on either way, and going by the game, his response to a sexual situation involving him (even comedic) is either a) panicking or b) ignoring it completely. But I can't think of anything that really indicates that he's sexually confident. Even on just a personal level, without bringing sex into the equation, he's very insecure.
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Phoenix would be a lot more comfortable with the idea because he gets beaten up by little girls and can't say no to pretty much anyone except sociopathic murderers even if he didn't fully agree.
Ahahahaha. Just had to add--Edgeworth also gets pushed around by little girls. Maya and Pearl top him just as much, if not more, than Phoenix. Edgeworth actually takes Maya's 'guidance' and demands seriously. :P
And Phoenix actually says no a lot, given how he only takes four cases a year on average and his comment about turning down a lot of offers in 1-5.
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I agree that PW:AA Edgeworth would be uke-ish to Phoenix. I can see how so many fics which set their romance in that time frame portray him as insecure, and that's fine. I honestly have nothing against Ukeworth.
But I only deal with Phoenix and Edgeworth as a couple (in my mind and in my fics) post GS3, where Edgeworth has lost a LOT of that insecurity. He may have a bit of trouble telling Maya "Sure am glad you're not dead, lol!" but he had no trouble being confident in front of Phoenix, every time they talked in 2-4. He had no trouble talking to Ayame *about* Phoenix, even when they were discussing very personal issues. I wish we would have gotten to see the hospital visit in 3-5 (*grumble*) but I don't remember any remaining awkwardness between them in that case.
(Except when he was "off crying in a corner" but that was very justified!)
I just think that Awesome Ass-Kicker In Court Edgeworth is just as much a part of his personality as anything else, and once "Buttsexing Phoenix" is part of his comfort zone, he won't have a problem showing it.
(Plus it's hawt <3)
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Edgey talking to Fran at the end of 2-4 is one of the only truly personal interactions we see him engage in. I don't think it's fair to call that "an exception" just because it has a vague connection to law.
Fran's not an 'exception' because of the law connection. She's an 'exception' because she's his sister, and someone with unique insight into what he's grown from, where he's come from, and what he's been through, that no one else will ever have. And again, even then, actually looking at the conversation, it's still in large part about "think about what it really means to prosecute, Franziska!"
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It shows that, within a certain comfort zone, Edgeworth is very capable of dealing with all manner of personal issues, and communicating his feelings with ease. I think all it really comes down to is that when Edgeworth is in a situation he's used to, or sure about, or knows he can control, he's very capable and perfectly confident.
Well, what do you think that 'certain comfort zone' is, and what are the 'all manner of personal issues'? In the airport scene in particular, it's his sister, and the personal issues are 'lol, don't give up prosecution', which are... both pretty consistent with the way I tend to read his patterns of behavior. It's interesting that we're reading such different consistencies--for me, the crux is personal/impersonal, and for you, it seems to be familiar/unfamiliar...? (Correct me if I'm wrong, of course~)
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But I only deal with Phoenix and Edgeworth as a couple (in my mind and in my fics) post GS3, where Edgeworth has lost a LOT of that insecurity. He may have a bit of trouble telling Maya "Sure am glad you're not dead, lol!" but he had no trouble being confident in front of Phoenix, every time they talked in 2-4. He had no trouble talking to Ayame *about* Phoenix, even when they were discussing very personal issues. I wish we would have gotten to see the hospital visit in 3-5 (*grumble*) but I don't remember any remaining awkwardness between them in that case.
Really? His defensive 'have you come to laugh at me?!!' reaction, mirroring 1-4 exactly, in the "crying in a corner" situation shows me that there's still a lot of insecurity. I don't think his characterization in that scene was throwaway--it told me that, as far as he's come, he still has a long way to go in terms of growing as a person. He's very awkward asking Phoenix 'are you okay?'--which is actually personal and between them--and not related to saving their client or unravelling the case's history.
Talking about Phoenix is much, much different than talking to Phoenix. Personally, I also think he saw a bit of himself in Ayame, which made it easier to forge an understanding between them--but that's a whole different ball game. ^^;
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I just think that Awesome Ass-Kicker In Court Edgeworth is just as much a part of his personality as anything else, and once "Buttsexing Phoenix" is part of his comfort zone, he won't have a problem showing it.
Oh, I love Court Edgeworth; I think it's a very important part of his personality. It's just that I can't recall any instance in the game where he shows that same ass-kickingness in something that doesn't relate to court. There's a consistency there; and even Takumi notes that Edgeworth has "two faces"--one of which is, well, insecure, awkward, and reserved. To me, the 'two faces' concept sort of loses impact if it's simply a matter of 'he's unsure until it's a part of his comfort zone, then he's confident'. In 1-4, Phoenix himself refers to the awkward, shy Edgeworth as Edgeworth when he's 'unguarded'--which suggests to me it's not just a matter of being unsure with what's unfamiliar to him. It's a suggestion that the unsure Miles is the 'real' one.
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Honestly, I can not see Edgeworth as a seme, unless I read fanfiction/doujinshi that is amazing enough to have me convinced. Like many before have stated, Edgeworth, unless talking about court/work-related things, isn't able to converse that easily (I haven't read that many spoilers, so I don't know about his talking to Ayame about Phoenix being so casual, as Croik stated. D:) with others. Especially while talking with our dear defense attorney. He stutters, and his conversations are awkward. (Yes, nothing like that happens with Franziska at the end of GS2, but he had been living with her during his long stay with Manfred von Asshat, they had developed some kind of a brother-sister relationship during that time, and hey - they were talking about prosecuting. XD)
Although courtroom!Edgey, being sly, clever, and all full of himself (and not a hint of awkwardness in his speech whatsoever) is a personality he shows quite a lot, he only really shows that side when confronted with the topic of prosecuting, or *gasp* during court. XD
While around Phoenix, Maya, etc., he probably reverts back to his awkward side, which, in 1-4, Phoenix suggests to be his real side. (As stated before. XD)
Jeez. I feel like I'm just repeating everything that's been said. Which, in turn, makes me feel like a dumbass. Argh. XD
To put it bluntly, it could be either way depending on how you see it...but he's still a big UKE. :D *flees*
...We need moar fanarts. :P Or more doujinshi. OR MORE SOMETHING RELATED TO EDGEWORTH BEING GAY WITH PHOENIX (or whoever); I FEEL YAOI DEPRIVED.
No yaoi = sadness. D:
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Honestly, I just think he likes to take it in the ass.
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What can I say, simplicity is beautiful.
XD That's perfect.
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