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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:17 pm

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Apollo acknowledges Klavier's music because he doesn't like it, though. The characters never mention the other music because they think it's groovy

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Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:20 pm

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JesusMonroe wrote:

Apollo acknowledges Klavier's music because he doesn't like it, though. The characters never mention the other music because they think it's groovy

...I actually wrote a fic where Marshall spontaneously produced cowboy music. Like, from his body.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:03 pm

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AireyVerkhovensky wrote:

JesusMonroe wrote:

Apollo acknowledges Klavier's music because he doesn't like it, though. The characters never mention the other music because they think it's groovy

...I actually wrote a fic where Marshall spontaneously produced cowboy music. Like, from his body.

Well, I guess that'd be better than being followed by a guitarist everywhere.

Wait, it'd be great if we had a character have a mariachi band following him everywhere. They could be witnesses! And they'd sing their answers in a round, or a-piece.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:05 pm

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

AireyVerkhovensky wrote:

JesusMonroe wrote:

Apollo acknowledges Klavier's music because he doesn't like it, though. The characters never mention the other music because they think it's groovy

...I actually wrote a fic where Marshall spontaneously produced cowboy music. Like, from his body.

Well, I guess that'd be better than being followed by a guitarist everywhere.

Wait, it'd be great if we had a character have a mariachi band following him everywhere. They could be witnesses! And they'd sing their answers in a round.

Oh great, thanks for bringing that up. Now I'm gonna be disappointed when that never happens... :sadshoe:

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:36 pm

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AireyVerkhovensky wrote:

JesusMonroe wrote:

Apollo acknowledges Klavier's music because he doesn't like it, though. The characters never mention the other music because they think it's groovy

...I actually wrote a fic where Marshall spontaneously produced cowboy music. Like, from his body.

.....Beans, beans, the musical fruit? :gant:

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:40 pm

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Sierra Mikain wrote:

AireyVerkhovensky wrote:

JesusMonroe wrote:

Apollo acknowledges Klavier's music because he doesn't like it, though. The characters never mention the other music because they think it's groovy

...I actually wrote a fic where Marshall spontaneously produced cowboy music. Like, from his body.

.....Beans, beans, the musical fruit? :gant:

More like psychic powers.
No one really questioned it.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:11 pm

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My headcanon is that the characters can actually see the other character's text when they speak. This would explain how Phoenix is able to explain the whole Maggey/Maggie thing in 2-1 when he says "It's not Maggie, it's Maggey!" Normally that wouldn't make much sense as they're both pronounced the same, but if the characters can see and read the other character's text when they speak, it would make perfect sense. It would also explain how other characters are occasionally able to read Phoenix's thoughts.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:16 pm

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In the JP version of 1-5, Phoenix tells Marshall (or Edgeworth tells Phoenix. Don't remember) to finish their statement in 25 characters or less, to which they say the equivalent of "NOOOOOOOOOO!" (25 characters and it fills up the entire text box). If they can see the text, then this joke makes more sense

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:58 pm

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Not to mention, the character names can change a lot more in the Japanese text (i.e. the variants of "Naruhodou" below):

成歩堂
ナルホドー
ナルホドくん
成歩堂ぉ

It makes it easier for him to tell who's calling to him from afar, especially the last one. Sure, he also hears their voices that we don't, but hey, it makes things easier on everyone if there are giant text blocks on screen.

It makes a lot more sense if you picture the games as a sort of theater, not unlike in Ghost Trick but minus the stage lights and curtain effects.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:22 pm

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I'm confused. Do we have two crack theory threads now?

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:26 pm

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Nearavex wrote:

I'm confused. Do we have two crack theory threads now?

Two? All I see are the Headcanon thread and the Church of Edgeworthism thread.
Really, the distinction between the two depends on whether or not someone truly believes in a certain fan theory.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:13 pm

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New headcacon: The reason Payne never bashed the defense, nor even made smug remarks in The First Turnabout was because Mia Fey was behind the bench on the defense's side.

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:16 pm

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Sounds very plausible.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:01 am

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What if only spirits can see thought text, the living can only see spoken text. This would explain why Mia is usually the one that does it. Also can be used to explain hearing Godot's thoughts in 3-5, since Mia might have actually been there.

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:41 pm

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I think Ema, Trucy, and Kay do it, though (but Kay does say she's just guessing from Edgeworth's facial expressions)

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:14 pm

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It's been stated that Phoenix's facial expressions are incredibly easy to read, too. So I guess the same applies to Apollo?

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:59 am

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Another Headcanon of mine is that channeled spirits only appear to those they want to appear to. To everyone else, they just look the same as the medium. This would explain why more people don't seem to notice the fact that Maya or Pearl just grew 1-2 feet and 4-12 cup sizes. When Dahlia was being channeled, she wanted everyone to see her true form, as she wanted to disguise herself as Iris.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:05 am

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dimentiorules wrote:

Another Headcanon of mine is that channeled spirits only appear to those they want to appear to. To everyone else, they just look the same as the medium. This would explain why more people don't seem to notice the fact that Maya or Pearl just grew 1-2 feet and 4-12 cup sizes. When Dahlia was being channeled, she wanted everyone to see her true form, as she wanted to disguise herself as Iris.

...didn't 2-2 disprove that?

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:20 am

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Yeah, Mia appeared on a photo which is not even a person in the first place, not to mention that disguising as Elise or, like Dahlia thought at first, Pearl would be even more convenient, don't you think?

Headcanon brutally proven wrong by the canon material. xD

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:52 pm

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Nearavex wrote:

Yeah, Mia appeared on a photo which is not even a person in the first place, not to mention that disguising as Elise or, like Dahlia thought at first, Pearl would be even more convenient, don't you think?

Headcanon brutally proven wrong by the canon material. xD

Damn it!

None of my headcanon ever works! Then again, considering that there are more plot holes in this series than an M. Night Shymalan film, it would be impossible to find a headcanon that would solve one without creating more. I keep on thinking I have great ideas, but they always turn out to be crap. I'm like Wheatley from Portal 2.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:20 pm

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New headcanon: dimentiorules is the Wheatley of Court Records.

It's a compliment, by the way. I like Wheatley.

...Oh, uh. On-topic headcanon: Spirit mediums can summon non-human spirits too, but don't take their shape. The transformation process would be a bit much.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:09 pm

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Probably just some little cosmetic changes?
~~Like tail and ears?~~

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:13 am

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Nearavex wrote:

Probably just some little cosmetic changes?
~~Like tail and ears?~~

Nah, I think I'd rather see Maya bounce around on all fours and bark. Wait, that came out wrong.

I'm still of the opinion that spirit mediums' bodies don't literally change shape... or at least, don't grow extra limbs.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:42 am

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:

New headcanon: dimentiorules is the Wheatley of Court Records.

It's a compliment, by the way. I like Wheatley.

...Oh, uh. On-topic headcanon: Spirit mediums can summon non-human spirits too, but don't take their shape. The transformation process would be a bit much.

As long as you don't call me a moron, I'm okay with this.

Also, I'd love to see a spirit medium channel Missile. And I mean Ghost Trick Missile, not GS Missile. At least, I think Ghost Trick and GS take place in the same universe, don't they? Was there ever any official confirmation on that? You never see blue skinned people in GS, after all.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:45 am

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Takumi confirmed it in another interview I don't remember; maybe the first one about Ghost Trick. I hope we do one day meet with strange blue men from another land.

But if Missile could talk in a human language, I hope this spirit medium could translate.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:56 am

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Well, judging by the fact that Missle could communicate in English* with Sissel in the ghost world, I'd guess that a chanelled animal would speak in English.

*you know what I mean.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:06 am

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They were communicating via thought in the ghost world, where there are no language barriers. Still, the thought of Missile becoming bilingual is so very tempting. After all, no term in a human language could possibly equivocate the meaning of a dog's bark.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:55 pm

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When Apollo says "I'm fine" in AJ it's treated kind of like a nervous tic. Athena and Starbuck though, seem to view it as some kinf of superpower though, which makes them feel pumped and confident. I just finished reading a book about human behaviour in which the author talked about "anchoring", which works as Pavlov's dogs with feelings - if somebody does something enough times in situations where you feel a particular emotion, what they do can later trigger the same emotion, whether it's made on purpose or not an anchor has been created. With that in mind, my headcanon is that Apollo said "You're fine"/"It'll be fine" to them both in situations where they already felt confident, or simply trust in what he said, so now they unconsciously feel the same way every time he says it.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:31 pm

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"The Head Detective of Criminal Affairs didn't even design him until this year!" Edgeworth feels the need to point out. Well, the Blue Badger's batteries must have been hit with a bolt of lightning, zapping him with 1.21 gigawatts of electricity and sending him back in time. The now-sentient BB then had to navigate the wacky world of two years ago, arrange for his own birth by getting C/HD and Gumshoe to kiss at the Enchantment Under the Sea policemen's ball, and then wait for the famous Joe Darke lightning storm to send himself back to the present.

I'm taking over VGR's theory on how the Blue Badger came into existence. It's the only way I can somehow tolerate that freaking thing.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:40 pm

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Doesn't that belong in the crack theory thread? >.>

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:19 pm

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Nearavex wrote:

Doesn't that belong in the crack theory thread? >.>

It's my headcanon and not a crazy theory! It's totally the truth (for me).
And your post totally proved that the Crack Theory Thread is basically the same as this Headcanon Thread - something I've said early on and people ignored me So nyeh. :kristoph:

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:11 pm

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CatMuto wrote:

Nearavex wrote:

Doesn't that belong in the crack theory thread? >.>

It's my headcanon and not a crazy theory! It's totally the truth (for me).
And your post totally proved that the Crack Theory Thread is basically the same as this Headcanon Thread - something I've said early on and people ignored me So nyeh. :kristoph:

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Crack theory exists for the sake of crack theory. Headcanon is used to help the audience understand/tolerate a work of fiction better. You used fucking VGR's "theory" to try to tolerate a certain aspect of a work of fiction, so technically that counts as headcanon.
Also, you clearly haven't been looking at the crack theory thread recently. They turned it into the Church of Edgeworthism. So nyeh nyeh. :ron:

But since I posted here, I might as well post this theory I found on GameFAQs about THEDARKAGEOFTHELAW (tm).

Spoiler: for both DD and GK2

It's not a perfect theory, but it's something.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:51 pm

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sumguy28 wrote:

CatMuto wrote:

Nearavex wrote:

Doesn't that belong in the crack theory thread? >.>

It's my headcanon and not a crazy theory! It's totally the truth (for me).
And your post totally proved that the Crack Theory Thread is basically the same as this Headcanon Thread - something I've said early on and people ignored me So nyeh. :kristoph:

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Crack theory exists for the sake of crack theory. Headcanon is used to help the audience understand/tolerate a work of fiction better. You used fucking VGR's "theory" to try to tolerate a certain aspect of a work of fiction, so technically that counts as headcanon.
Also, you clearly haven't been looking at the crack theory thread recently. They turned it into the Church of Edgeworthism. So nyeh nyeh. :ron:

Technically, it still is the Crack Theory thread, but the Church of Edgeworthism is tolerable of other theories as long as it does not contradict with our truth. Yes, we know they do anyway, but that's not important.

Quote:

But since I posted here, I might as well post this theory I found on GameFAQs about THEDARKAGEOFTHELAW (tm).

Spoiler: for both DD and GK2

It's not a perfect theory, but it's something.

It's a decent theory and I too find it accountable. Still, it does have one major flaw: their youth simply showed their own weaknesses. The public had no doubt that the system itself was corrupt, especially that opinion of the police and courts have been pretty low since the beginning of the series. And even among the people, no particular group can decide whether or not switching to a different system is worth the effort. No one seems to be able to decide on anything. That's what really makes it the "Dark Age of the Law".

It's easy to understand why as famous as Nick & co. can get in the legal world, they don't get enough attention or better PR. They're a selective niche, at least in the public eye, that serve only to the worst of the worst of cases. So, if even the special niche in the legal world that at first seemed to be fine turned out to be corrupt / killed off, then all hell would break loose. The fact that yet another prosecutor's rep went down the toilet only sank the figurative Titanic of the law even faster.

Regardless, I'm disappointed we haven't heard about a spike in vigilantism in the series. It could work well with this theme, as people take matters into their own hands instead. In fact, a simple mention is all that's necessary. Let's hope GS6 expands a bit on this.

...And that's how you write a headcanon theory, as opposed to a crack theory.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:47 pm

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sumguy28 wrote:

CatMuto wrote:

It's my headcanon and not a crazy theory! It's totally the truth (for me).
And your post totally proved that the Crack Theory Thread is basically the same as this Headcanon Thread - something I've said early on and people ignored me So nyeh. :kristoph:

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Crack theory exists for the sake of crack theory. Headcanon is used to help the audience understand/tolerate a work of fiction better. You used fucking VGR's "theory" to try to tolerate a certain aspect of a work of fiction, so technically that counts as headcanon.

*sigh* I don't know, time-traveling Blue Badger is a crazy theory that goes against the explanation which was provided canonically.
To me it's like saying Edgeworth is actually an alien... By my definition it's crack theory, which doesn't belong in this thread.

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sumguy28 wrote:

But since I posted here, I might as well post this theory I found on GameFAQs about THEDARKAGEOFTHELAW (tm).

Spoiler: for both DD and GK2

It's not a perfect theory, but it's something.

It's a decent theory and I too find it accountable. Still, it does have one major flaw: their youth simply showed their own weaknesses. The public had no doubt that the system itself was corrupt, especially that opinion of the police and courts have been pretty low since the beginning of the series. And even among the people, no particular group can decide whether or not switching to a different system is worth the effort. No one seems to be able to decide on anything. That's what really makes it the "Dark Age of the Law".

It's easy to understand why as famous as Nick & co. can get in the legal world, they don't get enough attention or better PR. They're a selective niche, at least in the public eye, that serve only to the worst of the worst of cases. So, if even the special niche in the legal world that at first seemed to be fine turned out to be corrupt / killed off, then all hell would break loose. The fact that yet another prosecutor's rep went down the toilet only sank the figurative Titanic of the law even faster.

Regardless, I'm disappointed we haven't heard about a spike in vigilantism in the series. It could work well with this theme, as people take matters into their own hands instead. In fact, a simple mention is all that's necessary. Let's hope GS6 expands a bit on this.

...And that's how you write a headcanon theory, as opposed to a crack theory.

Exactly. These here are great ideas, which really help me with taking the game as it is.
I honestly can't tell why the writers themselves couldn't have handled it better.

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:00 pm

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*sigh* I don't know, time-traveling Blue Badger is a crazy theory that goes against the explanation which was provided canonically.

It's a crazy theory that fits perfectly into the AA World with its law system. I fail to see the problem~ :edgey:

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I honestly can't tell why the writers themselves couldn't have handled it better.

I personally think GS5 would've been better had it, at least, written a decent explanation why the Jury System, that was so painstakingly shoved into our face and created during the 7 years Phoenix was disbarred, just up and disappeared like it never existed.

I know GS4 was created with its story due to executive meddling (or rather Governmental Meddling) but pretending like GS4's Jury System never happened in GS5 just makes it sound likely that GS4 should never be considered canon. *shrug*

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:36 pm

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CatMuto wrote:

It's a crazy theory that fits perfectly into the AA World with its law system. I fail to see the problem~ :edgey:

Now you're just playing around. No, time-traveling doesn't fit perfectly, especially if there's another explanation that is canon.

CatMuto wrote:

I personally think GS5 would've been better had it, at least, written a decent explanation why the Jury System, that was so painstakingly shoved into our face and created during the 7 years Phoenix was disbarred, just up and disappeared like it never existed.

I know GS4 was created with its story due to executive meddling (or rather Governmental Meddling) but pretending like GS4's Jury System never happened in GS5 just makes it sound likely that GS4 should never be considered canon. *shrug*

~~The only canon things about GS4 should be Gramaryes, Gavins, Ema, Eldoon and Vera anyway --//shot~~

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:39 pm

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AND APOLLO. *cough* Or was that a given?

(......Ack! I've run out of snide comments!)

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:47 pm

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Trucy and Apollo are grouped under Gramaryes, given certain blood relations.
I did think about making Apollo clearer though, I just wanted to keep it brief.

Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:56 pm

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CatMuto wrote:

I personally think GS5 would've been better had it, at least, written a decent explanation why the Jury System, that was so painstakingly shoved into our face and created during the 7 years Phoenix was disbarred, just up and disappeared like it never existed.

I know GS4 was created with its story due to executive meddling (or rather Governmental Meddling) but pretending like GS4's Jury System never happened in GS5 just makes it sound likely that GS4 should never be considered canon. *shrug*

~~The only canon things about GS4 should be Gramaryes, Gavins, Ema, Eldoon and Vera anyway --//shot~~

This reminds me, I had a headcanon, not about the in-series world, but about the game in general. Everything I didn't like about GS4 is the result of Phoenix's inclusion in the game.
Apollo didn't get enough character development? Phoenix.
Trucy somehow catches on to some things faster than Apollo but in other places acts like she just doesn't care about thinking? Phoenix.
The relations between Klavier and Krisotoph didn't leave an emotional impact? Phoenix.
Ema never got enough focus to be something other than a snackoo eater? Phoenix.
Phoenix? Phoenix.

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Re: Headcanon for the series?

Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:59 pm

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Now you're just playing around. No, time-traveling doesn't fit perfectly, especially if there's another explanation that is canon.

We really need a sarcasm button for posts... :ron:

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