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I got to ship P/M from the evidence in-game. I used to ship Phoenix/Franziska after 2-2, but as soon as I saw Nick's freakout in 2-4, I thought, 'Wowww. He must really love her.' The fanworks and discussion only strengthened my belief in the pairing. As I've said on multiple occasions, I tend to ship canon pairings. Hence why I ship Dick/Maggey and Ron/Dessie.
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Oh, I just remembered, that last pic, should I have linked to it because of partial nudity? If yes, I'll edit, and sorry.
It's funny because the 2-4 lead me to my first ship (see my sig).
Yeah, fan discussion and fics strengthened other ships I have. For me a canon relationship is one that is explicitly stated in the medium itself, so I agree with Ron/Dessie and other stated ones. Even Gumshoe/Maggey I can see the huge hints for, but they never say they are dating so for me it's just slight canon.
Most the relationships I like aren't canon, but have those hints you can take to lead to something. It's fan fiction's job to make it plausible.
That picture of Maya with Phoenix's jacket is fine. It doesn't show anything risque, but if you feel more comfortable hiding it you can link it. Just for future reference, please site the source of the pic. That's the general rule of the forum. If you don't know the source, just let us know that too so you're in the clear. I know a lot stuff is on photobucket and such that was originally from Japanese sites.
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Anyway, here are some cute pics from pixiv.net. It's a Japanese site but you have to be member to view stuff. If you uses babelfish to translate the stuff, you can sign up for it yourself. My tip is the have the Japanese site open in one window and the translation open in the next. It won't let you submit anything in the translated one.
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Err, this is out of the blue, but I have question that pertains to these two...do they live together? Sorry if that's a stupid question XD; I've read plenty of fics with them living together (even if they aren't together-together), like in an apartment above the office, but I can't remember if that was ever mentioned in any of the games. I skimmed through the game script for the first game and saw where Maya was talking to Mia on the phone and Mia congratulated her on getting her own place, but...did Maya move in with Phoenix after Mia's trial? and is there an apartment above the office? these questions have been bothering me lately, and I figure someone here could answer them for me :D
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And I'd like to go with the majority, in this case XD Maya and Nick living together would be sweet ^__^
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I think Maya lived back in Kurain before 1-2, then moved in with Nick since she probably couldn't afford an apartment. Though for all I know she could be loaded.
I think that might contradict other information from 1-2. I don't think her cell phone worked in Kurain. Of course, it could always be the writers fault. In one game the logic is her phone works, but in the next it doesn't. I know Mia congratulates her on getting her own place and living on her own, and for me that doesn't seem like it was in the village because Maya mentioned being on her own and having to be responsible. If she were in the village she might not have as much responsible because she would have others to help her.
Sorry, but I have not read the whole topic but I want to try to keep the discussion on the topic of Maya/Phoenix. Have you guys discussed who would ask out the other first?
I think Pearly would trick them into thinking the other asked them on a date. That would be a funny story at least.
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Really? What led you to shipping M/M? Oh, no, it's kind of off-topic. Sorry. I got into shipping M/M through fanart, in any case, and 1-4 played a huge part too.
On topic, I like those pictures. The last one has been posted before, though.
A new topic for us (EDIT: well, not really new, thanks to Loony) : The first date. Not counting all the times he took her out for burgers... What would it be like? Would they kiss then? Or would Nick want to wait till later on? Discuss, fanbase~
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Lunaria42 wrote:
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I think Maya lived back in Kurain before 1-2, then moved in with Nick since she probably couldn't afford an apartment. Though for all I know she could be loaded.
I think that might contradict other information from 1-2. I don't think her cell phone worked in Kurain. Of course, it could always be the writers fault. In one game the logic is her phone works, but in the next it doesn't. I know Mia congratulates her on getting her own place and living on her own, and for me that doesn't seem like it was in the village because Maya mentioned being on her own and having to be responsible. If she were in the village she might not have as much responsible because she would have others to help her.
Sorry, but I have not read the whole topic but I want to try to keep the discussion on the topic of Maya/Phoenix. Have you guys discussed who would ask out the other first?
I think Pearly would trick them into thinking the other asked them on a date. That would be a funny story at least.
Wow, thanks for the thorough answer :D sorry if that quesiton got things off-topic but I really wanted to know. thank you! :)
As for who would ask who, that's a tough question. Pearly's interference would probably end up being necessary, only because I think the two of them would be too stubborn/embarrassed to ask each other directly. XD
But however it would happen, I think Nick would want to take her somewhere nicer than a burger joint, probably something fancy that he couldn't afford and that neither of them even enjoyed, just because his luck would run that way XD And I think the two of them would probably end up overcompensating the whole date, trying to figure out how to act like they're dating after they've been friends for so long.
As for the kiss...hm. Depends how the date goes, maybe? :P
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Amy wrote:
A new topic for us (EDIT: well, not really new, thanks to Loony) : The first date. Not counting all the times he took her out for burgers... What would it be like? Would they kiss then? Or would Nick want to wait till later on? Discuss, fanbase~
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EDIT: Dangit, people! Let me get a post in!
I wrote a little ficlet for the kink meme quite some time ago about Phoenix and Maya being on a date. She insists that they kiss, but asks Phoenix for instructions, and he's KINDA like, "... lol, no, not anymore." They end up kissing anyway and they're both disappointed.
I actually can see that happening, though. A lot of awkwardness that goes away with time.
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Amy wrote:
A new topic for us (EDIT: well, not really new, thanks to Loony) : The first date. Not counting all the times he took her out for burgers... What would it be like? Would they kiss then? Or would Nick want to wait till later on? Discuss, fanbase~
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EDIT: Dangit, people! Let me get a post in!
I wrote a little ficlet for the kink meme quite some time ago about Phoenix and Maya being on a date. She insists that they kiss, but asks Phoenix for instructions, and he's KINDA like, "... lol, no, not anymore." They end up kissing anyway and they're both disappointed.
I actually can see that happening, though. A lot of awkwardness that goes away with time.
I agree with that. I can see their first kiss being at some sort of party game, like 'Spin the Bottle'. Then they decide they both liked it, and become a couple. I can see that sort of randomness in Maya's case.
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Sick of Pearls' nonstop babbling about Nick and Maya's love, the two decide that maybe if they pretend to go out on a date, Pearls will stop bugging them so much. Nick and Maya go to the theatre to see the new Steel Samurai movie (which Maya would have made Nick go see anyways), and to skip all the minor details the "date" goes very wel land they end up kissing. I imagine Nick would kiss Maya, and that it would be at the doorsteps of wherever it is Maya and Pearls are staying, then Pearls hears them, open the door to see them in a romantic embrace, and squeals "I knew it! I knew it!", runs back inside screaming with joy, and then Nick facepalms.
The end.
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I've got tons of ideas for first dates, but one that coes to mind is:
Sick of Pearls' nonstop babbling about Nick and Maya's love, the two decide that maybe if they pretend to go out on a date, Pearls will stop bugging them so much. Nick and Maya go to the theatre to see the new Steel Samurai movie (which Maya would have made Nick go see anyways), and to skip all the minor details the "date" goes very wel land they end up kissing. I imagine Nick would kiss Maya, and that it would be at the doorsteps of wherever it is Maya and Pearls are staying, then Pearls hears them, open the door to see them in a romantic embrace, and squeals "I knew it! I knew it!", runs back inside screaming with joy, and then Nick facepalms.
The end.
Sick of Pearls' nonstop babbling about Nick and Maya's love, the two decide that maybe if they pretend to go out on a date, Pearls will stop bugging them so much. Nick and Maya go to the theatre to see the new Steel Samurai movie (which Maya would have made Nick go see anyways), and to skip all the minor details the "date" goes very wel land they end up kissing. I imagine Nick would kiss Maya, and that it would be at the doorsteps of wherever it is Maya and Pearls are staying, then Pearls hears them, open the door to see them in a romantic embrace, and squeals "I knew it! I knew it!", runs back inside screaming with joy, and then Nick facepalms.
The end.
oh goodness, that's just about the cutest thing I've ever heard DX I don't know if I actually ever will, but could I possibly steal that for a future fan fic idea? >_> I'd credit you, of course. As long as you don't mind :D
I've thought about the concept of wanting to fool Pearl before, too. Except that they only SAY they're dating when they're actually not, and after a while Pearl finally insists that Mr. Nick gives Mystic Maya a kiss just so she can see how happy they are together. So he's forced to do it and of course true feelings are realized, etc. etc. /end cheesiness. :)
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Y'know, your idea would be a good backdrop for a multi-chapter fanfic. Wow, this topic s just full of awesomeness today.
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And heh, I always feel intimidated when it comes to writing a long PW fic. o_O I don't really know why, but the thought of it seems really...daunting. So I end up cramming my ideas into a oneshot :P But actually, you're right...I might consider making it a longfic. *ponders*
And you're so right! I really like this topic of Nick and Maya's first date :D it makes me think of tons of interesting scenes~ :3
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I think the key to a longfic is making it long, but not too long. don't think that I could ever do a longfic, as I can really hold P/M fic in my head for 2-3 weeks before my mind wanders off to another scenario. D:
Well, I've written longfics for another game series (Harvest Moon lol) and never had any problems. In fact, I used to write nothing BUT longfics until I finally got an idea I couldn't stretch over chapters. XD;
I guess it's that with PW it's hard for me to decide where in the timeline I want the fic to go. There's so much canon that I want to do my best not to disrupt that it gets tricky. I'd love to do a MayaxNick with an actual case sometime, but I feel like I'd want to focus on the pairing and I wouldn't have any good ideas for a case, anyway. :P
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Of course, then again, there's nowhere else for it to go otherwise, especially because of that 3-2 comment you mentioned. XD; Sigh. I might just end up disregarding canon and sticking the fic wherever I please :P I don't want that to stop me from writing MayaxNick D:
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I can totally see that happening.
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Anyways, I've got the first chapter of my fic done, I'll probably post it later.
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It's an adorable vid. ^_^
I'll read your fic justis76. =)
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Yeah, but having it set after 3-5 seems to be what everyone does...not that there's anything wrong with that, it's only logical, but I like to be different. :P And um, there's the problem of me not playing AJ yet >___> I mean, I have a grasp of what happens (hobo Nick, etc.) but I'd feel weird writing for a time period I haven't played past yet....I always feel intimidated when it comes to writing a long PW fic. o_O I don't really know why, but the thought of it seems really...daunting. So I end up cramming my ideas into a oneshot :P But actually, you're right...I might consider making it a longfic. *ponders*
Set it in the 2 months after 3-5 (except when those fics are long, they seem to take more than 2 months) or just pretend AJ was only an alternate timeline.
I can't write long fics either. I managed to write 10 chapters once and I thought it was a miracle I finished it. I think one way is to consider each chapter or group of chapters a separate sub-story, and write the ending as soon as you think of it, even if you haven't thought of the rest yet, then you're more likely to finish it. I don't know how people write those ones with 40 chapters or whatever.
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.do they live together?
Maya lives 'alone' at the start of 1-2. At the start of one of the cases, Maya is at the office and rings 'Phoenix's bedroom' and it takes him about 45min to get to the office after waking up. He could be really lazy about getting ready, but it's more likely he lives somewhere else. (And heres' official art of his bedroom, but he could be late for court, not the office?) Maybe Maya lives at the office sometimes.
It's 'rented' but he still has it in GS4 even though he doesn't need it for the 'Talent Agency' so I bet Maya is still paying the rent, or part of it. (Maybe he lives in it now.) She must have had some kind of stake in it, since there's that big handshake scene with Mia.
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Just a curious question to pose to everyone, but did the the evidence in the games lead you to ship the characters or did fanworks and discussion do that?
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I mean, I personally prefer to think that it will develop into something romantic, but I respect that other people see it differently. And really, they're cute either way...
It just irritated me that after all of the build-up in the first 2 and even the 3rd game...I mean, for me, I really thought their relationship was going to take a romantic turn, with the events of 2-2 and 2-4, not to mention Pearl and even parts of 3-5 (Read: the burning bridge)...and then they bring in Iris all of a sudden?
I mean, I don't hate her, and after sometime in the fandom, the P/I pairing has become kind of cute in my eyes, but come on...
It's pretty bad ship-teasing...But yeah. I definitely started to ship them because of the game evidence.
And sorry, I really hope this doesn't spark any Iris hate talk. I didn't mean to
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icer wrote:
I can't write long fics either. I managed to write 10 chapters once and I thought it was a miracle I finished it. I think one way is to consider each chapter or group of chapters a separate sub-story, and write the ending as soon as you think of it, even if you haven't thought of the rest yet, then you're more likely to finish it. I don't know how people write those ones with 40 chapters or whatever.
For me, the problem lies simply with PW XD I've written up to 24 chapters for a fic before, and yet with PW my brain just breaks. Dang. XD 40's lunacy, though I know some people have done it.
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Maya lives 'alone' at the start of 1-2. At the start of one of the cases, Maya is at the office and rings 'Phoenix's bedroom' and it takes him about 45min to get to the office after waking up. He could be really lazy about getting ready, but it's more likely he lives somewhere else. (And heres' official art of his bedroom, but he could be late for court, not the office?) Maybe Maya lives at the office sometimes.
Thanks for that answer! I vaguely remember that happening, so they probably don't live together. When I think about it, Nick probably wouldn't consider it appropriate :\ Especially in GS1 when she was only 17. (Side note: I love that picture of Niiiick :D I've seen it before, but it's just...heh.)
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Heh, that was really enjoyable to read :D For me, I started with the idea of them in GS1, but nothing fangirly. Just like, "oh, isn't their banter cute, they'd be nice together." But with the final case of GS2 it was pretty much sealed in my mind that I wanted them to end up together. And GS3...I completely agree with you with everything, from him not denying it to the burning bridge to the breakdown. I personally thought GS3 almost solidified it as canon, but Iris threw a wrench in that--however, I actually like that pairing, too. I'm horribly torn, though I'd have to say NickxMaya is my OTP. I think Iris just adds another dimension to their relationship that I know some people hate.
But I understand the ship-teasing. It kind of annoyed me too--especially when Maya found out that Nick fell off a bridge and she was just sort of like "LOL whut a klutz" and didn't even ask what happened. DX I really thought that could've been a turning point for them... *sigh*
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As well for the Post-Disbarment Phoenix, Maya would have to grow. Do you think she'd look like Young Mia? (Sisters), Cuz then Phoenix would really be a lucky guy if they went out. On a separate note, she would have to get rid of Acolyte clothes and the hair bun for dates and stuff.
I wonder when Phoenix actually turned Hobo, and if he'd actually dress-up for the occasion. He certainly didn't when visiting everyone else, and when appearing in court.
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It just irritated me that after all of the build-up in the first 2 and even the 3rd game...I mean, for me, I really thought their relationship was going to take a romantic turn, with the events of 2-2 and 2-4, not to mention Pearl and even parts of 3-5 (Read: the burning bridge)...and then they bring in Iris all of a sudden?
I mean, I don't hate her, and after sometime in the fandom, the P/I pairing has become kind of cute in my eyes, but come on... It's pretty bad ship-teasing...
But yeah. I definitely started to ship them because of the game evidence.
And sorry, I really hope this doesn't spark any Iris hate talk. I didn't mean to
I mean, I don't hate her, and after sometime in the fandom, the P/I pairing has become kind of cute in my eyes, but come on...
It's pretty bad ship-teasing...But yeah. I definitely started to ship them because of the game evidence.
And sorry, I really hope this doesn't spark any Iris hate talk. I didn't mean to
It's a problem, we can never discuss anything from that case in detail without fears we might upset other shippers by implying something, even if it's not hate talk. Anyway, 3-5 was really about saving Maya. It was only superficially about Iris. That became clear when we saw that Dahlia was not just 'replacing' Iris but the truth of the case and the 'turnabout' is revealed when he figures out Dahlia is literally replacing Phoenix's accused 'girl/friend' like in 3-1 - she's taken over Maya's spirit. *gasp* And that lets the case take a reversal and not end up like 3-4, because despite Dahlia's claims, Maya did not murder Misty then jump off Dusky Bridge and betray Phoenix the way Dahlia betrayed Terry. Iris-Dahlia were kind of an opposite Fey duo to Maya-Mia, on the Morgan side. You know, a non-loyal girl/friend with a hostile now-ghost sister who tries to kill him in 3-1 to go with the overly-dedicated Maya and now-ghost sister Mia who helps and saves him in 3-1.
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Yes, if they went on a date I think Pearl would insist on tagging along, because
1) She wants to be able to savor every bit of it and say "I was right all along, Mr. Nick!"
And 2) Because she's a minor and can't stay at Wright and Co. alone, unless they had their date at Wright and Co. (Very unlikely)
That having been said, where are they supposed to go first? And does Maya still expect Nick to pay? After all, being the master does give her significant...ahem...business influences...
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Icer, what are you talking about? Your writing is absolutely amazing, as I've seen from firsthand. You are definitely capable of writing a successful short novel, especially about your desired shipping.
Thank you, Taffy. Maybe you'd like to follow up your claim by reading that lovely 10-chapter fanfic I mentioned. (If you use a dictionary. And that was your idea, not an insult.) The romance doesn't even happen till about chapter 7. Oh, and this one too. I didn't even make the 2nd one shippy, since it was a kink meme prompt.
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As well for the Post-Disbarment Phoenix, Maya would have to grow. Do you think she'd look like Young Mia? (Sisters), Cuz then Phoenix would really be a lucky guy if they went out. On a separate note, she would have to get rid of Acolyte clothes and the hair bun for dates and stuff.
We discussed this many pages of spam back. Maya is not Mia, so she would not look identical to her. As for Hobo, they weren't going to draw multiple sprites with other clothes. BTW all that stubble makes him look older which is partly why they designed it, I guess, and he must shave every few days so it can't always be there and we are off topic again. But maybe he cleans himself up for Maya. Maybe Maya is away on a temporary Kurain Master activity for some months and that's why he's let himself go. Or maybe he is so dysfunctional without Maya he turned into a hobo. (Or maybe Maya is also a hobo.
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@tozz - That's the classic irony they always throw on this pairing. It's like a bad joke. Maya doesn't know it's to save her, like Phoenix never gets the 'evidence' in 2-4. Pearl, however, also repeats her 'You'd walk across hot coals for Mystic Maya' even though she has no idea he really did. More irony. Somebody will wake up, one day...
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icer wrote:
Maybe Maya is away on a temporary Kurain Master activity for some months and that's why he's let himself go. Or maybe he is so dysfunctional without Maya he turned into a hobo.
Mwahaha :D I think it's a mixture of both. I mean, he obviously can't live without her, sooo... <3
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@tozz - That's the classic irony they always throw on this pairing. It's like a bad joke. Maya doesn't know it's to save her, like Phoenix never gets the 'evidence' in 2-4. Pearl, however, also repeats her 'You'd walk across hot coals for Mystic Maya' even though she has no idea he really did. More irony. Somebody will wake up, one day...
Wait wait, it's been like way over a year since I played JFA...what's that evidence thing you're referring to? *dumb* And that's so true about Pearly! XD I feel oblivious now, not picking up on that. But awww, poor under appreciated Nick :(
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tozz wrote:
icer wrote:
@tozz - That's the classic irony they always throw on this pairing. It's like a bad joke. Maya doesn't know it's to save her, like Phoenix never gets the 'evidence' in 2-4. Pearl, however, also repeats her 'You'd walk across hot coals for Mystic Maya' even though she has no idea he really did. More irony. Somebody will wake up, one day...
Wait wait, it's been like way over a year since I played JFA...what's that evidence thing you're referring to? *dumb* And that's so true about Pearly! XD I feel oblivious now, not picking up on that. But awww, poor under appreciated Nick :(
The de Killer card that Maya drew on. She drew Nick.
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DefenseNeverRests wrote:
tozz wrote:
Wait wait, it's been like way over a year since I played JFA...what's that evidence thing you're referring to? *dumb* And that's so true about Pearly! XD I feel oblivious now, not picking up on that. But awww, poor under appreciated Nick :(
The de Killer card that Maya drew on. She drew Nick.
Ooooh, yeah :D aww, I forgot all about that. I really need to replay the games, just for the sake of reliving the NickxMayaness. Though my mom sold GS1 a long time ago, so that's become a little impossible :'(
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2-2 and 2-4, specifically (and maybe even bits of 2-1, when Phoenix is recovering from his amnesia? I could be wrong about that though.)
You still have that game, right? :(
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Yeah, I know JFA had some stuff, too, and I just finished T&T like two weeks ago so I'll probably play that (since, yes, I still own that). But I really want to play the first one 'cause I want to relive the start of them, like how they met and stuff (even though I know) :( Plus I always thought it was cute how Nick missed her during the last case <3 Oh, Mom, why do you have to have the urge to sell off video games as soon as I finish them?! ;___; Though to be fair, I didn't really fight it at the time. I'd just finished it and didn't really know about the sequels and thought, "Nah, I'll never want to play that again..." But after JFA I seriously regretted that foolishly foolish decision DX
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best couple of ever!!! hehehe i think O_o
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