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I agree 100% with blinq's sig.


Anyways, I have to wait another da before I can post my fic on FF.net, so I think I might start another one to keep me busy.


You do? Why is that? I don't think I've ever had to wait...

Another fic though, that's cool!
I might start mine soon, too. :)
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There's a 2 day waiting period before new users can post fics. Which reminds me, to write italics on FF.net, do you put [ i ] or < i >?
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justis76 wrote:
There's a 2 day waiting period before new users can post fics. Which reminds me, to write italics on FF.net, do you put [ i ] or < i >?


ahh, seriously?! I don't remember that, but I made my second account three years ago so that's probably why XD;

as for italics, I think there's an option for it if you upload the document and then edit it on the site. Like, you can highlight the part you want and click the italic button. Of course, if you're uploading Word docs and put the italics in the document before you upload it, it will carry it over to the site (but not show up in the document editor, which is frustrating).

Hopefully that made sense ^^;

also, ammchan, I friended you on LJ if that's okay :D
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*facepalm*
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also, ammchan, I friended you on LJ if that's okay :D


I friended you back and commented on your only entry XD

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There's a 2 day waiting period before new users can post fics.


That really sucks. At least Court Records doesn't have that!
Yay, Present Testimony getting more P/M? Soon? :D
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Actually, I just finished my fic. I son't know whether to put it into my other topic, as it's a follow-up to 'Salps, Samurais and Special Someones."
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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
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Wow It's actually really good ^^
I still kind of ship P/M but you know the fanbase just makes you love P/E =P


Thanks so much. I love the new sig, the sprites made me laugh.

Yeah, it's probably more gratifying to ship P/E in terms of the fandom, it's more popular, and there's far more stuff, and it's hotter...

But as for cute, adorable and touching, this pairing can't be beat. After 3-5 I knew I was totally convinced. These two must be together. I read some people say that their real OTP of this series was platonic Phoenix and Maya and I realised that that too was my 2nd favourite preference in 'pairings', after the romantic Phoenix/Maya. So I just love these two together.
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*completely forogt you can italicize things on Word*

There's an online document editor on ff.net with an Italics button. But you can upload docs as Word or HTML, And if it's HTML it's using <i>. If your fic's a direct follow-up to 'Slaps...' maybe have it in the same thread here on CR?
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Hmm...It's not a direct sequel, ti just follows the same storyline. I'll put it in a seperate topic.
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So...When do you guys think Maya and Nick started liking each other?
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Ah, good question! ^^

I think it was some time during JFA. I think it would be after Nick got his memory back at the end of the first case, at least for him, because I think it kinda made him look at Maya in a different way, if that makes sense. When he expressed willingness to make "new" memories with her, I get this little feeling like he's willing to start a "new" kind of relationship, too, even if he's not entirely conscious of it (because we know how thick Nick can be :3)

And then suddenly Maya's accused of being a killer and Nick defends her without question--I mean, yeah, they're BFFs, but I feel like he has even more invested in it. And, consulting icer's evidence list, during the investigation of 2-2 he thinks to himself "And even though the weather is gorgeous today, it's raining inside my heart..." I think the word choice is important, since talks about his heart and that tends to be associated with romantic things :D

After that, things progress until Maya's kidnapping, which obviously took a heavy toll on Nick.

But it's weird, because I can't quite figure out when Maya started liking him. I mean, it certainly seems like she felt at least a LITTLE something for him during JFA, but there's nothing I can pinpoint. I think the problem is because you never know when she's being serious, and since we only have Nick's thoughts it's hard to know what others are thinking XD;

Heh, my two cents. It's longer than I thought it would be ^^;
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Hmmmmm.....well, I think Nick kinda liked her at 1-3...sorta. Why else would he openly take in some person he doesn't know. -shot because this reasoning is crap-
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Hmmmmm.....well, I think Nick kinda liked her at 1-3...sorta. Why else would he openly take in some person he doesn't know. -shot because this reasoning is crap-


No, no, that's not crap and I get what you mean, but I think he was doing that more to help Mia than Maya, IMO. Like if he couldn't save his mentor the least he could do was try to save her little sister. But I think after that was when he started seeing her as a separate person from Mia, and more like a friend (and then more THAN a friend :3)
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tozz wrote:
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But it's weird, because I can't quite figure out when Maya started liking him. I mean, it certainly seems like she felt at least a LITTLE something for him during JFA, but there's nothing I can pinpoint. I think the problem is because you never know when she's being serious, and since we only have Nick's thoughts it's hard to know what others are thinking XD;



Actually, I think there's one tiny piece of evidence that may help. Now we all know that Pearl is convinced Maya and Nick are special someones, and my theory on why is that by the end of 1-4, Maya had developed a crush on Nick (I think it's plausible. I mean, you spent months with a pretty decent-looking guy who's smart and saved your life, and you're sure to develop feelings for him) and so when Maya returned to Kurain, she talked about him non-stop, giving Pearl the idea that they were dating. Unfortunately Maya forgot to mention that Nick didn't feel the same way. Due to this, I think that by 1-4 Maya had a crush on Nick, and by the end of JFA she truly loved him.

As for Nick, he definitely felt something for Maya after 1-4, as he didn't take cases for 2 months after she left, and only took Ema's case because she reminded him of Maya, but I don't think he realized how deep his feelings were until at least 2-1 when he got his memory back, like you said.
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Actually, I think there's one tiny piece of evidence that may help. Now we all know that Pearl is convinced Maya and Nick are special someones, and my theory on why is that by the end of 1-4, Maya had developed a crush on Nick (I think it's plausible. I mean, you spent months with a pretty decent-looking guy who's smart and saved your life, and you're sure to develop feelings for him) and so when Maya returned to Kurain, she talked about him non-stop, giving Pearl the idea that they were dating. Unfortunately Maya forgot to mention that Nick didn't feel the same way. Due to this, I think that by 1-4 Maya had a crush on Nick, and by the end of JFA she truly loved him.

As for Nick, he definitely felt something for Maya after 1-4, as he didn't take cases for 2 months after she left, and only took Ema's case because she reminded him of Maya, but I don't think he realized how deep his feelings were until at least 2-1 when he got his memory back, like you said.


Ah yes, I can totally agree with everything you wrote there! Heh, thanks for adding that about Maya, I hadn't really thought about it that way. Teehee, yes, I also think she had a crush on him then too~ X3

And yeah, it's kind of hard to say what exactly Nick felt back then after 1-4; I hold back on saying he felt any actual romantic feelings towards her since she was only 17 and I know some people are creeped out by that type of thing. Plus I see Nick as a decent kind of guy who'd wait til someone was of age :D Which happened in JFA, yay.
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can someone make me a gumshoe avatar :eh?: its probably bad to say it on sum1 elses but you know. sorry if its annoying
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You should post that somewhere else.
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Grr...Only a few more hours until I can post my fic...

Just looking through FF.net to keep busy and I found this. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5283903/1/Matchmaker
Looks interesting enough.

EDIT: It's a follow-up to this story: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4657494/1/Overdue
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OK, the 2 day limit is over and my fic is up:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5284274/1/S ... l_Someones

I'm feeling pretty good about it, because it just so happens that it's the 2500th PW fic! (Yayz!)
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So...When do you guys think Maya and Nick started liking each other?

Liking 'romantically' would be a gradual thing, but Phoenix really does seem to feel some kind of connection as soon as he sees her in the detention centre in 1-2 [replayed recently. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww] Beyond the just 'feeling sorry for her' thing. 3-5 would be the catalyst in terms of potential 'romance' admission.

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But it's weird, because I can't quite figure out when Maya started liking him. I mean, it certainly seems like she felt at least a LITTLE something for him during JFA, but there's nothing I can pinpoint. I think the problem is because you never know when she's being serious,

For Maya, I seriously think it's after he goes and stops her leaving at the train station in 1-4. [Cause her return with JFA starts the canon shipping-hints]. Before that, she's devoted to him for saving her and wants to help him, but that's when he proved to her it's her he values, not just her ability to channel Mia and whatever, and she's obviously extremely touched by that, [basically averting Maya doing a Misty Lite] going off on her training sabbatical just so she can return to help him as an 'adult' hehe. And that scene is serious. They do have some serious scenes together and they reveal volumes.

2-2 is very pivitol in these two's relationship. And definitely worth multiple replays :nick-heart: And has more of those serious scenes, like Phoenix getting so emotionally upset when he's in his total belief that Maya is innocent but has no reasoning or evidence yet to support it and Maya herself is convinced she did it.

2-4 is all the evidence we need that Maya genuinely loves him (and the hints throughout the series frame it in a romantic component). I mean, this is huge. She's kidnapped and is likely to be killed if Phoenix doesn't get Engarde innocent, and will be freed if he merely gets Engarde the innocent verdict. But she spends the entire time thinking of Phoenix (as her picture proves) and then just explicitly demands he get Engarde guilty instead of saving her, holding out some faith he might be able to save her regardless, but her letter is clearly a possible goodbye - she tells Pearl to look after Phoenix for her, so she's definitely willing to sacrifice her life for his sake. [And if her willingness to sacrifice is only 'sibling' love, why is she so embarrassed about admitting it?]
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Also, looking at the evidence the first case that has a truly long list of evidence is Case 2-2, and the fact that there's such a difference in amount of evidence from the last time Nick and Maya were together clearly means their relationship must have gotten more serious since Maya left (probably because they realized how much they missed each other's company).
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Oh jeez you guys, you're making me feel SO SAD that my mom sold GS1 DDD: I wanna see those NickxMaya moments again! Damn you Christmas for being so far away :(

Hahah, I get so excited speculating and discussing like this >__> I mean, I've always loved these two, and it's fun to talk about their relationship, you know?! 8D *dork*
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Oh jeez you guys, you're making me feel SO SAD that my mom sold GS1 DDD: I wanna see those NickxMaya moments again! Damn you Christmas for being so far away :(

Hahah, I get so excited speculating and discussing like this >__> I mean, I've always loved these two, and it's fun to talk about their relationship, you know?! 8D *dork*


You do know that every trial from all 4 games has been posted on Youtube right? (the person who had the AA ones up closed his account though so you'll have to look arround).
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Oh jeez you guys, you're making me feel SO SAD that my mom sold GS1 DDD: I wanna see those NickxMaya moments again! Damn you Christmas for being so far away :(

Hahah, I get so excited speculating and discussing like this >__> I mean, I've always loved these two, and it's fun to talk about their relationship, you know?! 8D *dork*


You do know that every trial from all 4 games has been posted on Youtube right? (the person who had the AA ones up closed his account though so you'll have to look arround).


Heh, I know that's true but I'd rather play through it myself :D Thanks a lot for that suggestion though, I'll probably end up doing that :keiko:
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Or...you could just look up case scripts?

I know, I know, not the same emotional impact, but much easier if you ask me.
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Hey, can you guys log in to FF.net? Every time I try a connection error coems up.
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The main reason why I want to play it is because the first time I played it I was a foolish child and heavily relied on FAQs to get me through instead of just doing it myself. XD So I wanted to redeem myself by playing it without any help whatsoever :D I doubt I'll remember everything. That's how I played T&T (okay fine, so I looked up one thing.)

And yeah, I can't log in either. I've gotten that error before. Hopefully it's fixed soon :\
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Oh good. I was worried that it was just me and that it might have been permanent. And I've had to use Faqs my fair share of times. I'm going to try and complete AAI without any, though. I'm going ot go see if there's any good fanfics I overlooked.
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I could mostly complete AJ without any FAQ's, but didnt really remember everything when I played AA, JFA and T&T again.
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So...When do you guys think Maya and Nick started liking each other?


The way I think is this...
In 1-2 and 1-3 they developed some sort of affection, but not romantic.
It wasn't until after 1-4 that they realized how much they really love each other.
2-2 had the first real PxM moments, but then the events slowed down, until 2-4.
Their first sex might have been between GS2 and GS3.

Again, that's the way I interpreted it.
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Hmm...I doubt that if intercourse happened before T&T that Nick would tell Maya that Pearl had the wrong idea about them in 3-2. I think they both liked each other before 3-2, but never really acted on it and so the earliest that they could have gotten together would be after 3-2.
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Hmm...I doubt that if intercourse happened before T&T that Nick would tell Maya that Pearl had the wrong idea about them in 3-2. I think they both liked each other before 3-2, but never really acted on it and so the earliest that they could have gotten together would be after 3-2.


Agreed, because no doubt Maya would be ticked at Nick if he denied it after...intercourse.

Of course, we still have tons of evidence from after 3-2 so it's very possible!
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Hmm, I feel like if they had had sex they would've acted closer, though. Or rather, I think their relationship would've changed...I think that sex would change the dynamics, as it would in any relationship, especially since they're not married and probably not living together. Like...they would've treated each other differently. Especially Maya--for instance, she'd feel more concern for him when she learned he fell off the bridge, etc. And also, I think teasing him about liking Iris would have been a bit strange if she was actually with him.

But I'm not saying it's impossible, I just don't know if it'd match up with all the details.
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Hmm, I feel like if they had had sex they would've acted closer, though. Or rather, I think their relationship would've changed...I think that sex would change the dynamics, as it would in any relationship, especially since they're not married and probably not living together. Like...they would've treated each other differently. Especially Maya--for instance, she'd feel more concern for him when she learned he fell off the bridge, etc. And also, I think teasing him about liking Iris would have been a bit strange if she was actually with him.

But I'm not saying it's impossible, I just don't know if it'd match up with all the details.


Agree it's unlikely till after 3-5.
And 3-5 would clear up his lingering 'past relationship traumas' and make him more willing to enter into a 'romance' than denial :butzthumbs:

The Youtube videos don't show every possible interaction. Like I bet they don't present every profile and valid evidence to every char every time. It's more a walkthru. And the scripts are missing for some cases.
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I agree, the most likely time for Nick to be with Maya is after 3-5 simply because now the past is done haunting him, and he can be in a relationship again. That's probably why most P/M fics take place after 3-5.
Also, lol at pearl in that picture. Awesome! :godot:
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I agree, the most likely time for Nick to be with Maya is after 3-5 simply because now the past is done haunting him, and he can be in a relationship again. That's probably why most P/M fics take place after 3-5.
Also, lol at pearl in that picture. Awesome! :godot:


Hmm, makes sense.

Gotta replay the games sometime...

Btw, great pic! Have any more? :)
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Yeah, I think I have to go replay case 2-1. Richard Wellington...*shivers*
Well, it looks like FF.net is working again. Which means I can finally get my second chapter up.
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Ya, I forgot about Maya's teasing...XD

But for some reason, I just can't picture Maya having sex.
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Ya, I forgot about Maya's teasing...XD

But for some reason, I just can't picture Maya having sex.
Trust me, it's easy. Just give her a few more years, set her into her mid-twenties, and you're ready to go. One horny raven-haired, hourglass-shaped girl ready to do the nasty with the "boy" she lurvs. XD
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*strikes heroic pose* I have come to admit my love for the Phoenix x Maya pairing! :keiko: As for the discussion at hand..I reckon that in the first game it was more friendship, sort of growing into URST for the next two games.
Or maybe URST is the wrong way to put it..it's less sexual than just plain adoration for each other I guess.
In GS4, we don't know anything about Phoenix's intentions, activites etc so he could be doing pretty much anything, in between organising the Jurist System.
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