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Sheepshifter wrote:
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After um 4-4 he's allowed to take the lawyer exam again since it was revealed as being in error to disbar him. Whether he will is up to the writers. Obviously, I HOPE SO!


That's messed up.

Spoiler: I'M SORRY FOR THE PREVIOUSLY UNMARKED SPOILER, PLEASE DON'T BAN ME! :larry:
:udgy: : Mr Wright, it seems that seven years ago we unfairly disbarred you, thus messing up your life forever, and sending you into a spiral of depression and drug abuse. For that, we are sorry, and we give you compansation.

:hobohodo: : So does this mean I can be a lawyer again? I've been waiting to take off this damn hat for years.

:udgy: : No. You have go through law school again.

:hobohodo: : I hate you >:(


Thanks for the save, Mia.

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icer wrote:
Okay. I mostly moved them to the hotel room so I wouldn't have to write too many more passionate activities of any rating. I can't imagine anything of any rating happening in Phoenix's dodgy little apartment though.
On the contrary, Nick's dodgy little apartment would be the perfect place, as long as both Pollo and Trucy were not home... PLEASE, do not feel offended, as I under any circumstances am not trying to mean any kind of sexism or anything derogatory of any kind, but the problem here is that you're thinking like a woman (which isn't wrong, considering you ARE one). As a man, if I were in Nick's situation, I'd be a little bit more than disheartened and even going to a hotel to share a drink with the only woman I've loved for so many years would feel VERY heavy. If Maya were to want to treat him and help him at the same time, she'd have to come around to his home, the only place he probably feels safe emotionally (besides the office), and do whatever she could to help him cheer up there.

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Uh, I'll figure something out. Do I have to change the first part with Richard?
Want me to help? ^_^ Being an avid novel reader and writer, I could probably lend you a hand. =p
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wow. haven't posted in the forums in a while. turns out..MY FIRST POST IS IN HERE!
i'm in such euphoria right now.
i went through all 7 pages of the topic because i have no life and i'd just like to say........

i feel oddly stupid. X'D
because i completely forgot about the 4-2 DVD thing for my fic!
and now...IT'S UNEXPLAINED! OHNOES.

WHAT? self-pimping?! nooooooooo.
( some post-AJ and T&T spoilers. )

also. to celebrate my coming-back-to-CR-forums (just for myself), i started some sprite stuffs. the theme is uh. well. i'm not telling.
but hey! i have a preview, at least!

WHAT? self-pimping!?! noooooooo.

8D; with that. i take my leave.

Spoiler: LULZYAY.
and am i one of the few who believe that Phoenix shouldn't get his lawyer badge back? ...well. not yet? 8D;


Omg! Awesome fanfic ^^; Awesome job! Unlike other Nick and Maya fanfics, this one mainly focus on the murder plot while giving little hints about Nick and Maya which is amazing~! :] (not saying the other fanfics about the pair is bad though, they're ALL awesome :kissy: ) Moar Plox! <3 Some parts were a little confusing though 'cause I didn't know who was talking to who (maybe it's just me though cause I r retarted like that xDD). Other than that, it's flawless; awesome plot and nice way of plugging in Nick + Maya there...hehe (omg, did i just repeat myself? :O...)

About the Pic: Phoenix looks a little too thin? Iono, it just looks weird to me; maybe his face should be a little rounder :yuusaku: and maya looks awesome ^^; love her clothes :P!

Oh and wb? (even though I didn't know you before you left xD) *cough* short intro: HI I R HELIA AND I LUB TALKING LIKE THIS~ lol :D (sorry if you cant understand me; i'm not used to typing complete sentences so lotsa run-ons :D)
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Mia_Fey wrote:
Icer and Sheepshifter, you should mark that AJ spoiler quickly..

Oops, sorry, yes this is why I shouldn't post at 4am...

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Want me to help? ^_^ Being an avid novel reader and writer, I could probably lend you a hand. =p


Oh yes, that would be great. You can just edit the whole thing if you like, I don't care :)
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Just thought of another thing which may cement Phoenix/Maya some may have overlooked.

The Magatama. in the second and third games, Maya is constantly reminding you that it's her's and she's just loaning it to Phoenix. But in AJ:AA, Phoenix tells you it's his. So perhaps Maya gave it to him to keep, knowing he would need it for the investigation.

And of course, Phoenix would probably need to recharge it's energy periodically, so he'd have to meet Maya or Pearl to do that.
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Omg! Awesome fanfic ^^; Awesome job! Unlike other Nick and Maya fanfics, this one mainly focus on the murder plot while giving little hints about Nick and Maya which is amazing~! :] (not saying the other fanfics about the pair is bad though, they're ALL awesome :kissy: ) Moar Plox! <3 Some parts were a little confusing though 'cause I didn't know who was talking to who (maybe it's just me though cause I r retarted like that xDD). Other than that, it's flawless; awesome plot and nice way of plugging in Nick + Maya there...hehe (omg, did i just repeat myself? :O...)

About the Pic: Phoenix looks a little too thin? Iono, it just looks weird to me; maybe his face should be a little rounder :yuusaku: and maya looks awesome ^^; love her clothes :P!

Oh and wb? (even though I didn't know you before you left xD) *cough* short intro: HI I R HELIA AND I LUB TALKING LIKE THIS~ lol :D (sorry if you cant understand me; i'm not used to typing complete sentences so lotsa run-ons :D)

THANKS BUNCHES! showers you in lover.
HAY RELIA WADDUP.
cough anyway.

sorry about the dialogue. mind always ends up that way. >_>;;; but..i guess it's supposed to be mind-boggling? and the fun of it is...guessing who it is!? i dunno. i just. love dialogue<3

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And of course, Phoenix would probably need to recharge it's energy periodically, so he'd have to meet Maya or Pearl to do that.

...yes. definitely overlooked. X'D
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WHAT? self-pimping?! nooooooooo.
( some post-AJ and T&T spoilers. )


Awesome fic! I especially liked this paragraph
Spoiler: chapter 3
She understood now. She understood why Maya immersed herself in her work when Phoenix had sent them away. She understood why she flourished into the person she was now. She understood how hard she worked to keep this school, this village, this way of life alive. Now that she was older, Pearl knew Maya’s pains. She knew the reasons why, sometimes, she would hear her dearest cousin cry at night. She knew what the Kurain Master would see every time she closed her eyes: a complete family, all her friends, and the man that haunted her dreams. And Pearl knew that, when Maya opened her eyes, she’d find her work load, the overpowering smell of incense, and a worrying younger cousin.


So emotive! So saaad.

Though I refuse to believe those scenarios where Phoenix never sees Maya or Edgeworth for 7 years.

I'm eagerly anticipating a happy ending. When I post that in this thread, you know what I'm implying...

About the magatama.. OT but anyone know what the AJ game says when you make too many mistakes? Of course, in games 2 and 3 Pearl said something...
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I think Nick says something about having to let it go for the time being and having to collect more evidence, as usual.


And Tsurikato, while I generally don't like fan fiction, seeing as it somewhat derails the ideas set by the official work, I will admit I'm positively captivated by yours. Keep up the good work. ^_^
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There's something I've noticed while playing the 3rd case in T&T.

During the testimony of Furio Tigre, when Maya got scared of him, she hid under the defense table. Phoenix told her, (I'm not sure if these are the exact words) "Hey, don't go under the table, Maya! Unless there's space for me in there too!"

It was just so funny. XDDDD And cute.

Any thoughts about this?

:phoenix: :maya:
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:hotti: : Hehh....Yes...Hmm, under the table...Works fine...yes... hoho...



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Heh heh, just found another nice bit between Phoenix and Maya in case 3-3... ^ ^

Godot: You know, seeing you squirm like that reminds me... of a certain coffee's bitter-sweet bite.
Phoenix: What kind of coffee has he been drinking?!?
Maya: It's not coffee, it's love! It's love that's bitter-sweet.
Phoenix: (hearing Maya say that makes her seem wise all of a sudden...)
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We need a canon shipping Evidence List for this pairing, don't we...
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Yes we do!


So who wants to make it?


Well, I'm new in the forum. ^.^ Nice to meet you!

I have gathered some evidences of why this couple can be considered to be canon (even though maybe in a platonic way).

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1- In the end of the first case of the second game, when Phoenix finally remembers about Maya (he had been struck in the head, thus he couldn't remmember anything) there is this dialogue between them:

Phoenix:
(This is Maya Fey, my assistant.)
(That's right... I have so many unforgettable memories about her.)
(For example...)
Maya:
Earth to Nick! What's wrong?
You keep staring at me! Don't tell me you've missed me?
Phoenix:
Uh, well, yeah I suppose I have.
I feel like I haven't seen you in ages.
Maya:
Oh?
Well, I'm back now. So it's
time for us to create new
memories together!
Phoenix:
Alright. Sounds good.

2- In the beggining of the second case of "justice for all" the victim (Dr Grey), was going to Kurain because Maya would channel a spirit for him. Before he went to Kurain, he went to the Wright & Co. Law Offices and had a conversation with Phoenix about the sole condition for Maya to perform the channeling:

Grey:
so she gave me one condition before accepting my request.
Phoenix:
A condition...?
Grey:
The condition is you, Mr. Wright.
Grey:
She said that she wouldn't do the channeling without first seeing you again.
Phoenix:
Me...?
Grey:
And that is why I've searched you out!
You want to see her too, don't you!?

3- Pearls attitude itself is a good clue that there's some chemistry between these two. Maya surely was the one that made the child suspicious about them. :garyuu: She (Maya) probably praised Nick all the time, just like a person talking about their loved one. This is not difficult to believe, since we already know that Maya said a lot about Phoenix while in Kurain.
In Morgan Fey's words: "I have heard much about you (Phoenix) from Mystic Maya."

4- The whole fouth case of "justice for all", especially the "last clue": the Shelly de Killer card with Nick's profile drawn over it. The logic explanation is that Maya was the one that had drawn that. That proves one thing: in a situation like that and she was thinking about him.

5- In "Bridge to the Turnabout" (the last case of T&T), Pearls says something while they were still in the office to Phoenix:
Pearl:
You'd do anything for Mystic Maya, right? Even walk over burning coals, right!?

Later, after the case was solved, she repeats the phrase.
What she actually doesn't know is that Nick indeed "walked over burning coals" for Maya,when he walked through the burning bridge - with the sole purpose in mind of saving Maya!

6- Also in this case, when Dahlia's spirit was in the court pretending to be Iris, she said this to Phoenix during her testimony:

Iris:
Mystic Maya... She's your girlfriend, isn't she?

He was very surprised, but just couldn't deny.
Dahlia probably noticed the chemistry between them the same way Pearl did.

7- In "the stolen turnabout" Maya was able to accept Phoenix being the defense attoney of Ron deLite even though he was the prime suspect of stealing the most precious item of her village, just because Phoenix accepted first. She said something like "If you believe in him, I believe in him, Nick". Phoenix, hearing what she said, almost cryed.

8- Also in this case, the whole scene where Maya pretends? to be jealous when she first meets Adrian Andrews is quite interesting. Here is a pic of the scene portraied by the talented artist serevasix in his deviantart:

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There's something I've noticed while playing the 3rd case in T&T.

During the testimony of Furio Tigre, when Maya got scared of him, she hid under the defense table. Phoenix told her, (I'm not sure if these are the exact words) "Hey, don't go under the table, Maya! Unless there's space for me in there too!"

It was just so funny. XDDDD And cute.

Any thoughts about this?

:phoenix: :maya:


It's romantic, and funny at the same time!

It's Ro-Fun... Romanf... tic... :payne:

Fun-mantic! :butzthumbs:
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Funny Chan, that's an awesome list and I'll try to add to it, but you need to put it in the spoiler tag.

Just to add one however

Spoiler: T&T 3-5
Phoenix Takes the special Course With Maya and Pearl, even though he'd objected to it, futher proof that yes, he will do ANYTHING for Maya.

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Spoiler: 1-4
Phoenix: A boat rental shop. Closed for Christmas it seems. I guess a murder taking place on one of the boats won't be good for business, either.
Maya: Boats... I've never ridden on a boat.
Phoenix: Really? Well, how about we go out on one when the trial is finished?
Maya: Hey, good idea! You bet!

What's that if it isn't Phoenix asking Maya on a date?
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Zeon Twilight wrote:

Spoiler: T&T 3-5
Phoenix Takes the special Course With Maya and Pearl, even though he'd objected to it, futher proof that yes, he will do ANYTHING for Maya.


Do you remember that part in the ending scroll of all the characters:
Spoiler: T&T ending credits
Pearl's standing around, talking about how Phoenix did the special course, and near the end she says "Maybe I should sign them up for the premium course..." :redd:

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I found a nice little Nick/Maya comic from a Japanese artsite. Check it out.

The artist's website is here.
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Sheepshifter wrote:
Zeon Twilight wrote:

Spoiler: T&T 3-5
Phoenix Takes the special Course With Maya and Pearl, even though he'd objected to it, futher proof that yes, he will do ANYTHING for Maya.


Do you remember that part in the ending scroll of all the characters:
Spoiler: T&T ending credits
Pearl's standing around, talking about how Phoenix did the special course, and near the end she says "Maybe I should sign them up for the premium course..." :redd:



A good general Rule of thumb, never let a nine year old with an Agenda have your Credit card number.

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Another would be the way Phoenix almost totally loses it when he hears that Maya's been kidnapped by Shelly, the blurred vision and the instant willingness to give whatever De Killer wants for her safe return. And, on Maya's side, While Kidnapped, it seems like the person she thought about the most was Nick, "Nick'll save me, Nick can do it, Nick will find a way. I'm gonna Draw Nick" It seemed like she really put a lot of faith into him and even sort of used him as an anchor to hold onto in that time, even though she was being starved.

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Spoiler: 3-5
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6- Also in this case, when Dahlia's spirit was in the court pretending to be Iris, she said this to Phoenix during her testimony:

Iris:
Mystic Maya... She's your girlfriend, isn't she?

He was very surprised, but just couldn't deny.
Dahlia probably noticed the chemistry between them the same way Pearl did.

I think he said "!"
Or maybe "!!!"
Definitely seemed like a shocked, affirmative... certainly not 'no'.

That, the bridge scene [after they spent ages make completely clear how utterly terrified he was of crossing the bridge earlier,] and the Ultra and Special courses in 3-5 are the really strong evidence for this ship. Though games 1 and 2 are stacked with evidence suggesting the potential relationship.


Spoiler: 2-1, 2-2
2-1: Yeah, I guess it is significant that it's Maya in particular which makes him remember everything..
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Grey:
so she gave me one condition before accepting my request.
Phoenix:
A condition...?
Grey:
The condition is you, Mr. Wright.
Grey:
She said that she wouldn't do the channeling without first seeing you again.
Phoenix:
Me...?
Grey:
And that is why I've searched you out!

Oh yes. That is a MASSIVE hint of Maya x Phoenix. Maybe she anticipated something might go wrong. And had to see Nick again before she died or whatever.


Spoiler: 1-5
I recently started playing PW1 for the 2nd time... just started case 1-5 where Maya is away doing the spirit medium training. It's totally obvious how much he's painfully missing Maya. He won't take down the Steel Samurai poster she put up, even though the clients give him weird looks, he doesn't feel like taking any cases since she's away, and rejects them all, he doesn't even feel like working, he only even takes Ema's case because it reminds him of Maya and her situation before with Mia.


I suppose we just all collect evidence and compile it in chronological order. Some of the cases have the text online at GameFAQs, not all of them though. I think they're all on Youtube... Of course it's more fun to replay the games than watch the videos...
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I'm really sorry for not putting the spoiler tag before. In fact I didn't know how to put it, since it was my first time posting in this forum. :knock-knock:

Spoiler: T&T - recipe for turnabout
Well... Another possible hint that they like each other in a special way is: when Phoenix enters Jean Armstrong's restaurant the first time after Maya had put the waitress clothes on, he hears her voice and then thinks something like "Oh, such a cute voice!".

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Spoiler: regarding the above
I bet she does have a cute voice too.
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Zeon Twilight wrote:
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Another would be the way Phoenix almost totally loses it when he hears that Maya's been kidnapped by Shelly, the blurred vision and the instant willingness to give whatever De Killer wants for her safe return. And, on Maya's side, While Kidnapped, it seems like the person she thought about the most was Nick, "Nick'll save me, Nick can do it, Nick will find a way. I'm gonna Draw Nick" It seemed like she really put a lot of faith into him and even sort of used him as an anchor to hold onto in that time, even though she was being starved.


Spoiler:
Also, you can't forget the part where he'd though he'd failed
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:udgy: : Phoenix Wright, you have been Accused of Loving Maya Fey, how do you plead?

:phoenix: ...Guilty your honor.

:maya: : !!!!! WOOTBEER! *Glomp!*

Let's see...more evidence...

Spoiler: hardly a spoiler but...2-3
When Regina mentions that she was going to ride Regent out, Maya says something about seeing about riding Phoenix. Also, in the same case they were talking about rolling around after the Case is over or something, one of the script people could tell me, but while not decicive Evidence, it's just another one of their "Cute" Moments like the boat in 1-4

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:edgeworth: : So, Phoenix, I hear you and Maya are dating now?

:phoenix: : Um, well....

:edgeworth: : Answer me.

:phoenix: : Yeah, we are.

:edgeworth: :......................

:edgy: : Score! Nice job, Phoenix!

:phoenix: : Thanks.

:edgy: : We'd have some beer right now, but Sheep can't get the beer emotion to work!
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Also, you can't forget the part where he'd though he'd failed
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Oh yes. That one! I loved it when he did that. XD
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I don't think he'd have been able to handle it if he really had failed, I think it might go a bit nuts.
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Sheepshifter wrote:

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Also, you can't forget the part where he'd though he'd failed
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Complete and utter breakdown.



The sprite invented purely for that scene. And I think the only time they used that sprite again was
Spoiler: 3-5
when he thought Maya might be dead again in 3-5

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icer wrote:
Sheepshifter wrote:

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Also, you can't forget the part where he'd though he'd failed
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Complete and utter breakdown.



The sprite invented purely for that scene. And I think the only time they used that sprite again was
Spoiler: 3-5
when he thought Maya might be dead again in 3-5



Heh, I love it, the Evidence is really pileing up.

At the very very minimum, we can see that Phoenix without a shadow of a doubt cares very deeply about Maya, and I gotta say, it goes both ways, it's my personal opinion that they could very easilly (with a little prod from say :pearl: , :edgy: or !!! :franny: ) end up together. I wonder what the other characters think of the two of them, I mean as mentioned, several characters have made accusations that they are a couple, and neither of them have corrected anyone, what happens if one of them decides that they are going to play cupid?
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Another one that shows how Phoenix is unable of distrusting Maya:

Spoiler: T&T last trial
When the Dhalia's spirit (pretending to be Iris) tries to pin the guilt for the murder in Maya, Phoenix prefers to "forget" all the contrary evidences and simply believe in Maya - even though that theory (that Maya was the real murderer) would free his client!!!

That's what he thinks at the time:

Phoenix:

(It seems like a reasonable story at first...)
(But... there's one thing that is completely impossible.)
(The very idea of Maya stabbing someone...)
(That alone is impossible! Which means...)
(...this faulty testimony must contain another contradiction in it somewhere.)

Not only this shows the level of confidence Phoenix has for Maya, but also how he was able to temporarily distrust even his dearest Iris (at the moment he didn't know it was actually Dhalia), but wasn't able to distrust Maya. He had this thought:

Phoenix:

(I don't want to believe it, but I don't think my logic is failing me...)
(...Iris is trying to pin the murder on Maya!)

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Funny_chan wrote:
Another one that shows how Phoenix is unable of distrusting Maya:

Spoiler: T&T last trial
When the Dhalia's spirit (pretending to be Iris) tries to pin the guilt for the murder in Maya, Phoenix prefers to "forget" all the contrary evidences and simply believe in Maya - even though that theory (that Maya was the real murderer) would free his client!!!

That's what he thinks at the time:

Phoenix:
(It seems like a reasonable
story at first...)
(But... there's one thing that
is completely impossible
.)
(The very idea of Maya
stabbing someone
...)
(That alone is impossible!
Which means...)
(...this faulty testimony must
contain another contradiction
in it somewhere.)



Along those same lines, Phoenix Wouldn't settle for less than Total Aquital in Case 2-2, pretty much for the same reason
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I updated my previous post with an idea that just occured to me. :phoenix:
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