Struck by a blunt objection
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I'm trying to explain this in my fancase. I personally see it as a combination of 'von Karma perfection' and 'unfortunete turn of events'.
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Name: Phoenix clarvoyant?
Explanation: Phoenix says, in 3-1, that he wants to become a lawyer "to help a friend". This is what he also says in 1-1, because that friend was Larry. However, how the heck could he know that Larry would be going to be accused of murder?
That's what I thought too, but wasn't he becoming a lawyer to meet Edgeworth? Maybe that's what he meant...
Although that makes sense, he actually says that he wants to help a friend. Not meet one.
Odd.
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Name: Phoenix clarvoyant?
Explanation: Phoenix says, in 3-1, that he wants to become a lawyer "to help a friend". This is what he also says in 1-1, because that friend was Larry. However, how the heck could he know that Larry would be going to be accused of murder?
That's what I thought too, but wasn't he becoming a lawyer to meet Edgeworth? Maybe that's what he meant...
Although that makes sense, he actually says that he wants to help a friend. Not meet one.
Odd.
Perhaps he didn't want to tell Mia? It would have confused her and she might start asking a lot of questions. And at that stage of his life when he knows Edgeworth is a prosecutor, he feels he needs to help him especially.
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I'm really gonna help the writers out here but...
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The Hobo-sexual
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Type of cough-up: Wrong date
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Description: When talking about Christmas eve, you say something about the 'just yesterday'- When it's already the 27th! So, you're referring to the 24th as 'yesterday'.
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I'm really gonna help the writers out here but...
Was reading, finally managed to answer my own question. The answer is pretty obscure, though and probably should've been made more clear.
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I think ultimately the point behind that case was never just to get Edgeworth convicted of a murder--Karma and Yogi both wanted him to confess to DL-6. Not only was Yogi able to get his revenge on Hammond by simply killing him, he put Edgeworth through all the pain of the trial, forcing him to remember that old case and playing on his guilt. Karma KNEW that Edgeworth wouldn't be able to let the trial end without confessing, after all that. He was counting on it, which is why he isn't phased when Phoenix beats him: his overall goal to ruin Edgeworth was still going as planned.
I think that's also why they chose to carry out their plan so close to the DL-6 deadline: so that Edgeworth himself would feel that sense of, "If I don't do it know, it won't matter anymore."
It really shows how well Karma knew his pupil after all.
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colluded with 
to produce this evidence which, very conveniently, claims that having the defense's fingerprints on it is proof of the witness's guilt, Godot makes NO attempt whatsoever at objecting. Even though Atmey will leap at the chance to get himself proven a thief, Godot has no idea of this plan and moreover had a LOT OF TIME to object. Is it possible that Godot already knew that Ron went to KB Securities and purposely waited so he could accuse Ron of murder, thus starting another trial against Phoenix? Hardly! It doesn't even matter what his real motivations are. Does he wish to defeat Phoenix, the man against whom he holds a grudge? If so, Godot would be giving up a trial he still had a hope of winning, which is ridiculous. If his real motivations are to test Phoenix's strength, then for what reason would he go easy on him? The only possible explanation I can think of for this cough-up is that he not only underestimated Phoenix's abilities to to a ridiculous extreme, but that he was also caught off-guard by and unable to object against Atmey's "confession". It makes little difference, because he's either stupid one way or stupid another.
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A Kodac moment.
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Name: 15 or 16?
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Description: When Ema introduces herself, she says that she'll be turning 16 this year. So, she is actually 15. Yet, everyone calls her a 16-year-old, even Ema herself! Even the Court Record says she's 16! So, the writers must have goofed with her introduction.
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Name: Phoenix clarvoyant?
Explanation: Phoenix says, in 3-1, that he wants to become a lawyer "to help a friend". This is what he also says in 1-1, because that friend was Larry. However, how the heck could he know that Larry would be going to be accused of murder?
That's what I thought too, but wasn't he becoming a lawyer to meet Edgeworth? Maybe that's what he meant...
Although that makes sense, he actually says that he wants to help a friend. Not meet one.
Odd.
I'm just repeating something someone said on another thread (can't remember who or what thread, sorry). At that time, Phoenix should have noticed the change on Edgeworth's attitude from wanting to be a defense attorney like his father to becoming a prosecutor (remember he's on trial on 3-1 and his defense attorney already faced Edgeworth on 3-4, so he would probably know his old friend's a prosecutor by then). Therefore, he may have thought something bad happened to make Edgeworth's character do such a big change, and wanted to help him. That would explain the line on 3-1.
Well, that or Larry was already on trial by accidentally killing someone.
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absolutely not a robot
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Type of cough-up: Misterious travelling object
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The Hobo-sexual
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Type: Just something weird...
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Description: When Phoenix and Ema start being freaked out by the name 'cough-up' queen, well, considering Angel's personality, wouldn't she tell them what 'cough-up' meant first hand? I mean, she wouldn't want to lose some buisness (Or reputation) now would she?
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That's...hmm. I never thought of that! That's a good one.
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That's the only way I see to explain it...
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Apparently so:
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Do your best, Nick. Hee... hee... hee...
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Hi
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Do your best, Nick. Hee... hee... hee...
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In 2-1, Phoenix says something like "Dustin Prince was 8 years older than my client, correct?" How did he work that out?
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In 2-1, Phoenix says something like "Dustin Prince was 8 years older than my client, correct?" How did he work that out?
THE COURT RECORD LOL
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.....!!!
Damn, that IS a good one.
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