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Haven't posted in this thread for ages *~*
I will from now on :phoenix:
I was drawn here from the phoenix and maya day on sept 5th. What's that about?


To answer your question, September 5th is the day Phoenix and Maya met.
In honor of that, we here at the fanclub decided to declare it "Phoenix/Maya" day, and we're all going to contribute art, fics, graphics and what have you ^^

It's this Saturday. Join us~ :D


Oh I see.
I'll be there, since I've started making fanart then I'll try and make one with Phoenix and Maya ^-^ Though I haven't got the hang of drawing Phoenix yet..
And I'll write a fic if I have time.
Sounds good :redd:
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Good to know.So how's everybody's stuff going?
I'm writing my 3rd fic right now, so only one more fic to go afterwards.
How's the art coming along guys?
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Good to know.So how's everybody's stuff going?
I'm writing my 3rd fic right now, so only one more fic to go afterwards.
How's the art coming along guys?


Well, I still can't get Phoenix's hair right, but it's pretty much done for the most part. I just need to make a few adjustments. Sadly, there will be no shading or coloring because I'm fail at it. I can't shade to save my life D: Ok, well, I might add some color...but it'll probably be really light or something. XDDD I'm thinking on making another drawing for P/M day too... But I don't know :yuusaku:
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That's fine. And I just came across this over at FF.net. It looks pretty good.

And to think Justin, that you said you were a bad fic writer.
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Happy weekly P/M day. Next prompt for Puppy Love is up.

I decided I'm gonna post ch 3 of my school fic for P/M day, even though I'm not 100% happy with it, and I'm trying to finish the next chapter of Married Life. phew!
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The picture is really cute! And I love the blue/purple for the "Phoenix/Maya" text. Nice job!
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It's great.

Here we go, here's how I think that 'CARD' evidence from 2-4 might 'come back' along with Franziska in 3-5. The card itself never comes back, but there's what could be a metaphoric reference and Phoenix's oblivious 'reply' [since he never actually knew about the card, they torture us with irony.]
Spoiler: The card pic
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Tell me if any of this seems to make sense.

Spoiler: The card from 2-4 gets a 'reply' in 3-5?
The 'card evidence' from 2-4, concrete proof of who Maya was believing in to potentially die for, disappears with Franziska and seems to never return in GS3, even though Franziska does. [Edgeworth summons her in that game, to do battle with him.]

But maybe it does make a metaphoric 'return' along with Franziska - or at least Phoenix's unwitting and oblivious 'reply' to it.

Maya's unadmitted motivations behind 2-4 given concrete 'proof' by the card: It's pretty much along the lines she believes in their partnership and Phoenix himself so much she's willing to die for it before betraying him [or letting the blackmail succeed and being a thorn in his side]. The card is proof it's Phoenix she's believing in to potentially die for, not just 'justice' or something. She's too embarrassed to tell Phoenix something like:
'I believe in you and our partnership even to the death and I'll die before I betray it or you. I would die before betraying you because I totally trust and believe in our partnership. [That picture is concrete evidence of exactly what I was believing in to die for. How embarrassing, you might not feel the same way.]

Phoenix's unwitting 'reply' in 3-5: OUR relationship is STRONGER than any mere picture. I don't even need one as 'evidence' to know you would never betray our relationship. You could temporarily look like Dahlia, and I'll still believe and trust in our mutual relationship, to the death and beyond.

No temporary illusion can distract me from the truth of our partnership like it did for others, I know I can believe in you, and our relationship which is genuine to the core.

He also 'walks over hot coals for Mystic Maya' like Pearl claimed he would in 2-4 which we assumed was only a 'fairytale' then.

Explanation:
Notice what happens when Franzy returns in this game (sans card, Edgeworth called her) and when she's interacting with Phoenix? Maya has channelled Dahlia, and is REPLACED BY DAHLIA'S IMAGE.

Remember Phoenix fell in obsession/love with the 'relationship ideals story/concept' Dahlia told him and attached Dahlia's image to it, then fell in obsession/love with Dahlia as a result? Proof the attaching of the IMAGE to the 'Relationship Concept' is of primary import is a) he transfers the 'love' flawlessly to identical Iris without even noticing. He even just ignores all Real Iris' pleas for the bottle, as they are inconsistent with his delusional idea from Dahlia. Takes most of the trials in both 3-1 and 3-5 for him to ever suspect anything's even up when Iris is again Dahlia. b) Phoenix doesn't know her real name and terms her 'Dollie' - real names or identity are irrelevant, neither does Terry ('Teen Angel'/'Melissa'/Dahlia)who was also told a similar 'relationship story' surrounding the bottle which he obsessively believes in.

Oh, by the way, from Phoenix and Terry's words and actions in 3-1 and 3-4 the 'fairytale' seemed to include core relationship ideals like this:

We will always trust and believe in each other and our partnership, to the death, and we'll die before we stop trusting or betray each other! We will go to extreme lengths to support each other [like eat evidence, go on trial for murder in our partner's place etc.]

Terry's version follows, Phoenix's one can't have included a literal 'suicide' pact with the poison as the bottle was empty, but he's certainly willing to die before betraying or stopping trusting 'Dollie' until the contract bottle is destroyed:

Fawles:
Five years ago, me and Dahlia... We promised each other...

Fawles:
We swore we wouldn't betray each other...

Fawles:
She brought a memento... To represent... our love.
Fawles:
I-I promised her...
5 years ago...

Fawles:
If it ever happens...

Fawles:
...that we can't trust each other no more...
Then...

Fawles:
...we're supposed to... drink... bottle... Ugh...
[aka die instead of not trusting or betraying each other]

[Terry even kills himself over it before he'll stop trusting or believing in the relationship with 'Melissa' and Phoenix seems uncaring if he has to die to save 'Dollie' until he finally abandons his loyalty to the 'relationship' and destroys the 'contract' bottle.]

This all does sound vaguely familiar.

The Maya-Phoenix partnership was not initiated around a stupid fairytale or object [the Magatama draws parallels to the Bottle, but is NOT integral to the relationship itself] however in 2-4 Maya appears to believe in the actual partnership and Phoenix every bit as much as Phoenix and Terry did in their 'perfect relationship concept' from Dahlia, to the point she'll die for it if necessary, before betraying him.

She's put her total belief in Phoenix and their 'total dedication/trust partnership' and to give her strength, she draws THE IMAGE she's attached to their relationship concept. The belief in both the relationship/partnership and Phoenix himself is total. It's not just immature belief 'help, Phoenix will save me', oh no. Maya's belief is in their partnership, and Phoenix as a person [even when he himself is suffering identity and moral crisis]. She'll die before betraying their partnership, and she believes in Phoenix to do the right thing, even if it means death for her.
She refuses to betray him by being used as a pawn to blackmail him, [the way Iris just submitted to Dahlia and didn't call for help after in the somewhat parallel 'cavern scene'] and devotes her efforts to getting him the decisive evidence and telling him to pursue justice, not save her. Phoenix and their partnership is what she'll die for, if needed, and drawing the image she associates with it helps remind her exactly what she's fighting for 'their partnership] and who she'll die for. It's not for 'justice', it's for Phoenix.

Look what happens in 3-1. Dahlia replaces Iris in court, and Phoenix doesn't even notice it's a different person until the end of the trial. And he only notices this after he's successfully provoked to stop believing in the 'relationship concept/story' and ditched loyalty to it, rather dramatically destroying the bottle symbolic of it into pieces that, unlike the Urn, can never be salvaged or repaired. His reliance on a superficial image to conceptualise their relationship and delusions by 'it' has led to his abandonment of belief in the 'relationship story/contract' AND his relationship with Iris. [The fact his intuition correctly senses afterward she might 'not be a murderer' and that might not have been her is irrelevant, he already has severed loyalty to the relationship and knows she betrayed it and the 'contract' surrounding it.] He also doesn't even notice when Iris is again replaced by Dahlia in 3-5.

Iris had two 'adversities' on her part which contribute to Phoenix eventually losing faith in and severing loyalty to their relationship and the 'trust relationship concept' surrounding the bottle, on his part during the trial:

1.Dahlia physically replaces her in court after she 'submits' to her doing so
2. Iris LOOKS LIKE DAHLIA.

In 3-5 Iris again submits to Dahlia replacing her, at Hazakurain and in court, Phoenix is again deluded, only even notices anything is up when she starts to conflict with his belief in MAYA. But even more importantly, like 3-1 Iris, his real 'girlfriend' role char, MAYA, has been literally replaced in court by Dahlia in a similar manner to Iris 3-1, as she is channelling her. [Guess Maya symbolically 'doesn't abandon him', so she unknowingly shows up to court in her unfortunate guise :gant: ]

In other words, both 'adversities' Iris suffered in 3-1's trial against Phoenix still believing in their 'relationship contract' are replicated for Maya here!

1. Dahlia has physically replaced her, in court [after Maya was forced to channel her]
2. Most significantly, Maya LOOKS LIKE DAHLIA.

Can Dahlia delude him into stop believing in their mutual trust and belief relationship from his side the way she could in 3-1 when she 'replaced' Iris? Maya has been forced to enact pretty much the same situation on her side.

Unlike 3-1, Phoenix NEVER stops believing in the relationship. Even after Dahlia convinced him Maya was dead, he refused to believe she had ever betrayed their trust partnership. The delusional tricks of image which successfully sunk Phoenix/Iris from Phoenix's end fails here. [This even alludes Phoenix's belief in his trust partnership with Maya is stronger than his belief in the trust relationship with 'Dollie' was in 3-1.]

The turnabout of 3-5 [exactly where 3-4 failed] from Phoenix's end, is facilitated by two realisations by Phoenix:

a)Maya would never betray him or their dedication/trust partnership. Even if she's dead, [as he very much believes in the 'breakdown'] she didn't betray the trust and loyalty partnership, it's impossible. He never stops believing in their trust partnership. Since he still believes she never betrayed the partnership, then, he realises, she must actually be alive.

b)the subsequent realisation that Dahlia IS 'replacing' Maya! Aka Phoenix got it, notably without ever losing belief in their trust partnership the way he did with Iris in 3-1 over Dahlia's tricks of image. The fact poor Maya LOOKS LIKE DAHLIA can't delude him away from the truth of their relationship like it did for Iris. He can see through the lying image, their relationship is true to the core.

(Though notice how annoyed he is, cause the 'only thing' he wants is for Dahlia to come out of Maya 'right now!')

The image of Iris may have appeared to lure Phoenix to Hazakurain [especially to Maya, who's oblivious to the background fiasco's memories the image triggered] but Phoenix pretty much says here that no temporary, superficial image can in the end succeed in distracting him from the TRUE relationship with Maya, even when Maya is forced to channel Dahlia.

Note the point he STOPS being properly distracted from the truth by the Dahlia/Iris illusion? Oh, it distracted him long enough to put Maya in mortal danger (doesn't notice criminal activities due to distraction of hood scene and earlier preoccupations) but when he hears there's a murder, ALL HE CARES ABOUT IS MAYA, she 'might' be in danger, so it's instinctive he'll immediately risk his life to protect her [due attempt to cross burning bridge, fully aware of the dangers]

NOT co-incidence that this is precisely the 'fairytale' Pearl came up with at the end of 2-4. "You'd walk over burning hot coals for Mystic Maya". We thought then it was just a fairytale. No, this is the beginning of Phoenix's 'reply' to Maya's 'card' in 2-4 and the reference just ties it to the case. This then triggers the return of Franziska [the fall lures Edgeworth, who summons Franzy.] (Good things happen [aka Edgeworth's help] when Phoenix chooses which relationship to pursue - the one which is genuine.)

Contrast to 'Dollie':
-The image IS important, it's what he fell in love with and associated with the relationship concept, as we saw that it was transferred flawlessly between Dahlia to Iris [and back again]

-he 'forgot' Iris until he saw her picture and it triggered the memories associated with the fiasco. The Image is apparently essential for associating 'Iris/Dollie in his brain. It's not even a physical body which is important, it's a picture, apparently.

-He STARES at her. [That's the main 'canon' basis]. And she's behind security glass, so still an image rather than, uh, chemistry.

-When she gets 'replaced' with Dahlia, he doesn't even notice [initial meeting, 3-1, 3-5 AGAIN] and stops believing in the relationship [3-1, destroys bottle himself] while still assuming Dahlia [image] really is girlfriend. Belief in the truth - that was a fake, girlfriend 'isn't a murderer', is only after he's ditched loyalty to the relationship itself and Mia made him see sense.

-Basically, the whole relationship to Phoenix Is reliant on a picture and association with it, and he can be deluded easily because of it to Phoenix/Iris partnership failure in 3-1 AND 3-5

-Which might be okay, except that a main theme of the GS3 game IS superficiality of images and appearances. [Dahlia/Iris, Tigre looking the same as Phoenix, Tigre/Viola is a lie, Armstrong's mirrors, Ron appears a weak loser but really is Mask de Masque, Victor Kudo mistakes one maid costume for another, oblivious to the real person, Godot hiding behind his mask and different name etc.]

(The point of this is NOT 'Iris Bashing' it's clear the return of the 'girlfriend' and 'demon' from the distant past literally forced Phoenix an assessment of his current and future priorities and relationships, which is why discussion of 3-5 just... involves her.)

Other discussion:

As well of 3-5 being an attempt to destroy the Phoenix-Maya relationship in the exact same manner as both 3-1 AND 3-4 simultaneously, they also get the same 'tests' as the other relationships seen in the game.

For example, Maggey 'hating' Gumshoe for his well-meaning but required testimony in court in 3-3 is premonition for Maya's forced testimony in 3-5. Unlike Maggey-Gumshoe, Phoenix realises Maya's good intentions and the fact she's basically forced to give testimony in a bad situation and doesn't start 'hating' her or see it as betrayal, their relationship is stronger than that.

In 3-2 even when Pearl thinks Phoenix defending Ron is a 'betrayal' of the 'perfect fairytale' and freaks out, Maya doesn't and says she trusts him. Their relationship is stronger than that, and rooted in reality, not Pearl's impossible fairytale fantasies.

When the Magatama [somewhat symbolic of their trust partnership] is stolen, the relationship doesn't collapse, like it does when the 'bottle' is removed from the Terry/Dahlia or Phoenix/Dollie relationships.

Basically the entire GS3 is one huge test on the Phoenix-Maya partnership, which spectacularly prevails.

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makes sence to me. felt like i was reading an essay though lol
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It was an essay :) Part of it anyhow..
And really excellent too :| It makes sense, is very interesting and it's a lot more interesting to read an essay on Phoenix Wright than on history or something. Woah, there are so many parallels and hidden meanings within GS3, it's amazing :keiko:
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Hmm, you know, I thought this up last night:

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Ok, due to Nick & Maya's conversation in 3-2, we know they aren't dating at that point. Now in 3-3, there's a part where Nick walks into Tres Bien, and Maya tries to speak french. Nick thinks that it's a very cute voice, and then realize it's Maya that's talking, and is shocked. When Maya asks Nick about her uniform, Nick remarks that maybe she should stay a waitress.

Now what we can tell from this is that Nick finds Maya's voice cute and that he thinks she's attractive, but also it seems that Nick hadn't really thought of Maya in a romantic way up until that point, which is why he's shocked to see Maya is the girl with the cute voice. Following this, it's entirly possible that Nick might have begun to look at Maya differently, and that he might be thinking about her in ways he didn't before, etc. Nick's thoughts about Maya might have changed towards Maya, although we don't know because Maya is gone for most of 3-5 and Nick's only thoughts about her were hoping she was safe. Taking this into account, the time where Nick is most likely to fall in love is 3-3 to 4-4 (flashback case).
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Hmm, you know, I thought this up last night:

Spoiler: T&T
Ok, due to Nick & Maya's conversation in 3-2, we know they aren't dating at that point. Now in 3-3, there's a part where Nick walks into Tres Bien, and Maya tries to speak french. Nick thinks that it's a very cute voice, and then realize it's Maya that's talking, and is shocked. When Maya asks Nick about her uniform, Nick remarks that maybe she should stay a waitress.

Now what we can tell from this is that Nick finds Maya's voice cute and that he thinks she's attractive, but also it seems that Nick hadn't really thought of Maya in a romantic way up until that point, which is why he's shocked to see Maya is the girl with the cute voice. Following this, it's entirly possible that Nick might have begun to look at Maya differently, and that he might be thinking about her in ways he didn't before, etc. Nick's thoughts about Maya might have changed towards Maya, although we don't know because Maya is gone for most of 3-5 and Nick's only thoughts about her were hoping she was safe. Taking this into account, the time where Nick is most likely to fall in love is 3-3 to 4-4 (flashback case).


That's a good theory and I kind of agree. Probably he takes Maya for granted, [she's always in the spirit medium outfit, too, and it's 'quit being a spirit medium' he says] but when she's put out of context, he's unwittingly attracted. He wouldn't have wanted to think of her 'that way' when they first met, since she was slightly too young.

Probably also part of the point of the 3-2 scene with Pearl having the wrong idea with her insane, unachievable 'fairytale' criteria for what Phoenix's 'supposed' to do, is to make a direct contrast to delusional, idiotic Feenie we just saw in 3-1, as obsessed with an irrational fairytale as Pearl is now.
I.e. proving Phoenix has grown up since then, particularly for players which didn't play GS2 or something, and his partnership with Maya is more rooted in reality. He probably consciously fights against being trapped in another 'fairytale' lie too. [But no, they're NOT in a 'romance' then, we wouldn't have thought so anyway.]

But around 3-3 that trauma from the past affects him when the case reminds him about 'poison and betrayal' and then there's the return of Dollie [both parts] which distracts him. Then the case and trial very obviously triggers a re-assessment of his current priorities re: relationships. And he makes some pretty fundamental realisations in that trial concerning Maya. Not romance in the trial, specifically, but, well... [needs another 'essay'.. :sadshoe: ]

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It was an essay :) Part of it anyhow..
And really excellent too :| It makes sense, is very interesting and it's a lot more interesting to read an essay on Phoenix Wright than on history or something. Woah, there are so many parallels and hidden meanings within GS3, it's amazing :keiko

Thanks for liking my 'essay'. I thought it's more interesting than History too... Anyone agree that's the 'card'? If it's not that, then they just forgot it, but I think this might really be how it resurfaced. They wouldn't just totally 'forget' something that important...
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Woah, that's freaky. Ok, so tozz's newest fic and that theory I wrote deal with the exact same subject matter from the scene in 3-3, even down to Nick not noticing how attractive Maya was, and the weirdest part is that I had written that theory before I had read tozz's new fic. O_o

Very strange...coincidence? I think not!
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It makes a lot of sense. I completely approve! Anyone that disagrees gets thrown into eagle river.

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Are you referring to icer's theory, my theory, or both?
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At this point, they both have merit. Icer's is just...more detailed.

...And I agree with Nick. Maya looked good in that uniform.
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Although, due to the small screen, we didn't get to see ther best part... :hotti: *shot*
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Good to know! I've written 4 of my 5 fics.
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Good to know! I've written 4 of my 5 fics.

Heh heh, nice going! I haven't finished my P/M draw yet, but I'll finish it in time though. (I hope.... else it will be a long night tomorrow.....)
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U CAN DU EET!

I'm the king of procrastination, I could write my last fic now, but I'm putting it off until tomorrow. Plus it gives me more time to think up ideas.

It'll be interesting to read all the fanfics.
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ok you guys talked me into it i am starting to write a fic. no idea if i will get it done in time though :eh?:
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@ chaple: The one where they get stranded on an island? Cool.
@ Shiki: Voted, it's pretty cool how you interact with your audience like that.
@Lawyer: Cool. Any idea what it's going to be about?

I just noticed I accidentally double posted. Phail.
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No, the cosplay one. I also can't say it's anything special, but I did put the effort into writing it.
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Oh yes, that should be a lol-ful. Cosplay fits Maya to a tee.
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I'm the one who's supposed to say that!

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So, Icer, is that your Doctoral Thesis or something? :beef:

It all makes sense, though.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment on the sig.
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@Lawyer: Cool. Any idea what it's going to be about?




takes place right after 4-4 maybe a few weeks after it seems to be going in a diffrent direction then i originaly planned though :yuusaku:

so far it is a lot longer then planned and it is easier then i originaly thought lol but i might post what i have and see what peaple think kind of hit a road block with it *sigh*
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I'd be happy to help, if you'd like. The best way to beat writer's block is a nap though, IMO.
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justis76 wrote:
I'd be happy to help, if you'd like. The best way to beat writer's block is a nap though, IMO.


if you want i could PM what i have so far.
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Sure.
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Sure.


PM sent
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Ok, I sent you an edited version and some suggestions for your fic. Feel free to send me a final copy to edit if you want.
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will do i had to change some things though i made a big over sight i forgot that 4-4 takes place in october :payne: so i made it take place before 4-4

any way i finished the first draft yay me :keiko: i will send it soon
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He loves his music

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So I decided to finally get around to making some graphics for the occasion!! Better late than never I always say!! My sig and avatar are finally jazzed up! One more day to go people! Are we excited????
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Mew~ :3

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So I am back! And I've gotta get working on this fanfic......
New sig coming soon!~
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Feeling the pressure...less than 24 hours to go...CAN WE PULL IT OFF?
And animegal, I love your sig & avatar. Awesome!
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Happy Phoenix/Maya Day everyone! :gant: it is here, and in Japan, so let's celebrate... (guess nobody is here yet and you all come online at some terrible hour like 3am) *breaks out the celebratory caffeine* Thank you, Godot!

Love the avatar and sig animegal.

Oh I thought what there should be fanart of. Phoenix and Maya handcuffed together, like the Blue Badger and the Pink Badger. It fits with the crime theme of the series and their deviances [at least by game 4..]
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