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Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
Yeah. But in the grand scheme of things considering in any story the main male and main female get together Phoenix x Maya would likely happen before Phoenix x Miles, but as I said usually stories tend to end up open-ended to not disappoint anyone.
Not any story. Also, neither couple is going to happen. In stuff like this, I always find people saying "my zero is more than your zero" to be pretty funny.
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How does America respond?
They change the guy into a girl.
Therefore, I believe that there is a possibility of the addition of minor homosexuality... in the Japanese version. Because America is so concerned about this issue, they will probably change the game around, or not release it at all.
It saddens me how intolerant our culture has become.
Bear in mind that this is from the point of view of an American. I do not wish to offend people in other countries. I don't know the views of anyone else. (And NO, I do not like George Bush. Whenever I travel, I get that question ALL THE TIME.)
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Guess_Who wrote:
Spoiler: GS4, kind of
....*hasn't played GS4* What about him...? o.o
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And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
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Croik wrote:
I think he's too young to enter into a debate like this. It's not his fault his mother dresses him that way...!! lol
And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
Hahaha, yeah. I didn't mean to come off as 'OMG Miles/Phoenix their love is so truuuue and canon!', just that the fact that I doubt Takumi, if he was homophobic or not interested in the homosexual fanbase, would make that comment otherwise.
And I believe that that is the best summary of the PW style of humour ever
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Croik wrote:
I think he's too young to enter into a debate like this. It's not his fault his mother dresses him that way...!! lol
And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
very well put, the insinuations are all there for the yaoi/yuri lovers out there even though its not explicitly stated. it might be a while before we get a canon yaoi/yuri pairing that is canon. bully however is 1 step in that direction i guess
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IdahoRose wrote:
Speaking of gayness, isn't the chef from T&T gay?
Either gay or just very effeminate. It's not like we ever see him with any guys, you know?
He's probably gay, but he's so stereotyped to the point of just being comical, so I dunno if that would affect anything.
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Dannichu wrote:
Nah, they'd just up the rating, not ban it completely. I don't think it'd make too much difference really, given the game's (JFA, at least) rated 12+ anyway (at leask in the UK - for violence and such) it shouldn't change anything in regards to getting banned - the general public aren't that homophobic.
I know, I'm just prepared for the worst with parents and video games.
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But, in all honesty, I don't think there'd be ANY pairings in the PW games at all. I think the game's creators know exactly what they're doing when they throw out those vague romantic hints - it's a basic bait and hook technique to get the fanbase thriving. Everybody knows that when there are a lot of ships - gay ones in particular - everybody basically piles up on them so to speak xP It gets people talking on forums, making fanart, spreading the word etc.
Or at least that's my take on it, keep in mind I'm absolutely no expert and I'm just theorizing.
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D-Berry wrote:
IdahoRose wrote:
Speaking of gayness, isn't the chef from T&T gay?
Either gay or just very effeminate. It's not like we ever see him with any guys, you know?
He's probably gay, but he's so stereotyped to the point of just being comical, so I dunno if that would affect anything.
XD Okay. Just curious. Thanks for answering!
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SilverZephyr wrote:
I love how people go all "HOW WILL HETEROSEXUALS REACT TO HOMOSEXUAL PAIRINGS?" without considering the question of "How do homosexuals deal with the 85972085 heterosexual pairings that are all over the place in TV, games, books, and real life?" Because yes, believe it or not, many homosexuals ARE squicked by heterosexuality :/ But we live with it.
That said...is this really the right place for this thread? :/ It seems to belong more in a non-PW section than the Defendant's Lobby.
That said...is this really the right place for this thread? :/ It seems to belong more in a non-PW section than the Defendant's Lobby.
Omfg.. You take the words OUT OF MY MOUTH. :x I try to keep my mouth shut about heterosexual pairings in games/anime/whatever unless it really doesn't work. I do it with homosexual ones too.
But yeah, just because YOU are hetero, wouldn't want to have homos in your games, why should us homos have to deal with your hetero-ness too?
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D-Berry wrote:
IdahoRose wrote:
Speaking of gayness, isn't the chef from T&T gay?
Either gay or just very effeminate. It's not like we ever see him with any guys, you know?
He's probably gay, but he's so stereotyped to the point of just being comical, so I dunno if that would affect anything.
We don't see Edgeworth with any woman, so that must mean he's not straight right?
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Ryshili wrote:
D-Berry wrote:
IdahoRose wrote:
Speaking of gayness, isn't the chef from T&T gay?
Either gay or just very effeminate. It's not like we ever see him with any guys, you know?
He's probably gay, but he's so stereotyped to the point of just being comical, so I dunno if that would affect anything.
We don't see Edgeworth with any woman, so that must mean he's not straight right?
It's less about "This person is gay/straight because x" or "This person is not gay/straight because there's no proof, so they're straight/gay" and more about "There's no proof either way, so saying they're EITHER sexual orientation is silly."
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There's no definitive proof of any relationships, except for Yuusaku/Mareka. All other pairings just have barely a sliver of proof behind them, save for Gumshoe/Maggey which is strongly hinted.
The sad thing is, Yaoi/Yuri/Pairings in general go for the "best friends" rule.
Edgeworth and Phoenix were childhood friends, and still remain friends.
Naruto and Sasuke were friends, etc.
If two people are friends in anime/games, people will jump all over it and use it as evidence that they're fucking each other every night.
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Demonic Defense wrote:
I'm gonna pull an Edgeworth and say:
There's no definitive proof of any relationships, except for Yuusaku/Mareka. All other pairings just have barely a sliver of proof behind them, save for Gumshoe/Maggey which is strongly hinted.
There's no definitive proof of any relationships, except for Yuusaku/Mareka. All other pairings just have barely a sliver of proof behind them, save for Gumshoe/Maggey which is strongly hinted.
Kaminogi and Mia is stated to be canon. Maggey and Gumshoe are on the same level as Kaminogi/Mia, IMO. Other people can decide when they play 3-3.
Demonic Defense wrote:
The sad thing is, Yaoi/Yuri/Pairings in general go for the "best friends" rule.
Edgeworth and Phoenix were childhood friends, and still remain friends.
Naruto and Sasuke were friends, etc.
If two people are friends in anime/games, people will jump all over it and use it as evidence that they're fucking each other every night.
Edgeworth and Phoenix were childhood friends, and still remain friends.
Naruto and Sasuke were friends, etc.
If two people are friends in anime/games, people will jump all over it and use it as evidence that they're fucking each other every night.
That's why Larry/Phoenix is so popular, right?
It's not just best friends. I'm a strong proponent of friendship. It's the fact that the way they react to one another goes far beyond what you would expect of normal friends.
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MoronSonOfBoron wrote:
We never see Miles with any women because he's classier than that. The Edgeman keeps it on the down-low, ya hear.
XD I think picking Edgeworth was a bad choice. *Snerk* But seriously I was just saying just because the Chef isn't seen with some guy doesn't mean to rule out he's gay on top of being effemiant.
Much less with anyone.
SilverZephyr wrote:
It's less about "This person is gay/straight because x" or "This person is not gay/straight because there's no proof, so they're straight/gay" and more about "There's no proof either way, so saying they're EITHER sexual orientation is silly."
Exactly.
Though yeah, Adrian has too much pointing her way. ^_^;
Demonic Defense wrote:
The sad thing is, Yaoi/Yuri/Pairings in general go for the "best friends" rule.
Edgeworth and Phoenix were childhood friends, and still remain friends.
Naruto and Sasuke were friends, etc.
If two people are friends in anime/games, people will jump all over it and use it as evidence that they're fucking each other every night.
Edgeworth and Phoenix were childhood friends, and still remain friends.
Naruto and Sasuke were friends, etc.
If two people are friends in anime/games, people will jump all over it and use it as evidence that they're fucking each other every night.
Extremely true. And dude people do that IRL too. My best friend and I hung out together alot, because we practically thought of each other as siblings.
I came out to my school, and then the whole school things my best friend and I are an item. X_x
But you have to understand, we gay people hunger for a strong representation of us, which is why we jump on things.
And then the Yaoi-fangirls, well.. uhm.. I can't defend them. XD
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Ryshili wrote:
Extremely true. And dude people do that IRL too. My best friend and I hung out together alot, because we practically thought of each other as siblings.
I came out to my school, and then the whole school things my best friend and I are an item. X_x
But you have to understand, we gay people hunger for a strong representation of us, which is why we jump on things.
And then the Yaoi-fangirls, well.. uhm.. I can't defend them. XD
I came out to my school, and then the whole school things my best friend and I are an item. X_x
But you have to understand, we gay people hunger for a strong representation of us, which is why we jump on things.
And then the Yaoi-fangirls, well.. uhm.. I can't defend them. XD
I never knew how much of the PW fanbase was bi/gay.
Croik wrote:
I think he's too young to enter into a debate like this. It's not his fault his mother dresses him that way...!! lol
And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
And come on, guys, Takumi's "cute" comment is obviously a joke. XD;;; He said in the same interview that he and Phoenix would probably drive better if they were drunk, and that Edgeworth's entire psyche is balanced on the welfare of his dog.
Didn't Takumi have another meaning when he said Phoenix thought Edgeworth was cute? I remember you saying something about it meaning something else in Japan.
Also, is Takumi the creator of GS?
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Demonic Defense wrote:
Didn't Takumi have another meaning when he said Phoenix thought Edgeworth was cute? I remember you saying something about it meaning something else in Japan.
Takumi meant that Phoenix is aware of Edgeworth's endearing aspects, is the best way I can put it. Because Edgeworth is cute--the way he won't look you in the eyes when he's upset, the way he flips out when he makes a mistake and assumes you're going to mock him, his love of the Steel Samurai. He's very, very moe.
So not "cute" in the sense of "whoa, he's kinda hot", but "cute" in the sense of "lovable".
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Okay, I haven't been paying too much attention to the whole Edgeworth/Phoenix thing [It doesn't do anything for me... sorry... don't kill me] but... I have a question I'd like someone to answer for me.
It seems like it would cause a huge conflict of interest, at least if they were actively in a relationship. As in, career ruining conflict of interest. Speaking purely from outside reprecussions, I can't imagine anyone hiring a DA that was sleeping with the head prosecutor. As professional as that might be, I doubt conflict of interest rules have been dropped that much.
Of course, if this has been clarified long ago... yeah... sorry. :(
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Really, it's a fair point you've brought up, but I think the PW legal system is so far removed from our own that real life doesn't have to come into play unless you want it to. One of the things I love about Phoenix and Edgeworth as a couple is that there are so many stumbling blocks between them, but I can't think of any they wouldn't be able to overcome if they put their minds to it.
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Edgeworth we already know is capable of hiding evidence from the court. Phoenix... not so much.
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I just don't think it sinks a relationship. Potentially, it could, definitely, but since we don't know how the courts handle conflicts of interest--well, there is a case that briefly addresses it, but that goes nowhere--it's hard to say concretely one way or the other.
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He's emotionally stunted because of his past, which makes it hard for him to express his feelings or act social in any way. Phoenix is probably one of the few people who understand him (I'd say Gumshoe or Maya also "get" him, to a certain extent).. but I don't get the sense that it means they could be romantically involved. That's just my take on the whole thing.
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Of course, it's difficult to say anything in the PW one way or another, so it's all moot in the end =/.
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The Engarde trial alone was really sort of scary in RL terms because Edgeworth probably should have taken himself off the case--he was very personally involved, and allowed Phoenix to work against his client's best interests to railroad Engarde into a guilty conviction. The game lauds this as the right thing to do.
The truth of the matter is that by the end of GS2, Edgeworth and Phoenix are already close enough friends that there's a conflict of interest there. If the game doesn't see that as an issue, it's hard to say a romantic relationship would change things in a major way. It's not like Edgeworth or Phoenix could get much more invested in the outcomes of their shared trials on a personal level.
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So after 1-4, when the relationship could begin, theoretically, [I am ignoring any creepy Childhood things, because I'm sorry, but even in fiction I draw a line with my favorite characters] There's already likely rules in place if there would ever be any, no? And so, via friendly debate my lurker syndrome has gone down and my question is answered. There we go.
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Of course, a lot of pairing fics use the "Edgeworth came back after GS3" device anyway (>.> <.<) but still, it's not really an issue unless the fic author makes it an issue.
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Demonic Defense wrote:
I never knew how much of the PW fanbase was bi/gay.
Well at least for me I've got.. *counts* 14 friends that like PW that are bi/gay that I talk to + myself + my partner. :3 16?
We're out there.. But I'm not hiding. XD <3
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