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I'm striding more and more off topic, but since Miles wrote that thingie I could only think about...

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That picture made me laugh way harder than it should have.

Yeah,that's kind of the point of these pairings,you shouldn't think too hard about it.Wait,no,you shouldn't think about it at all.

Like that one AAO case I'm planning which has UdgeyxNick in it.
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Believe me - you are not alone.

Hahaha! Saucy, saucy. :redd:
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There is something magical about Edgeworth singing about Nick and Naruhodo as a lovey couple.
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I'm surprised it didn't happen faster. One of the first thoughts that came to mind when I saw this thread was how awesome it'd be if Phoenix Wright and Ryuichi Naruhodo were two different people.

Then, came the shameless NickNaru shipping.


-I mean it's crazy
-What?

-We finish each other's
- 異議

-That's what I was gonna say!


- Cause for the first time in Forever
- あ~ ひどいわ 悲しみ~

- I WAS FROZEN TODAY!!


Yeah I'm giving you a mix of English and Japanese cause I cannot recall Elsa's English lines.

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
There is something magical about Edgeworth singing about Nick and Naruhodo as a lovey couple.


With his hands outstretched, blessing their love... :jazzedgy: :phoenix: :oops:

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- Cause for the first time in Forever
- あ~ ひどいわ 悲しみ~

- I WAS FROZEN TODAY!!




Is that after he's fallen from Dusky bridge? xD
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That wasn't actually Larry who we saw reaching out for Nick when he fell. It was actually Naruhodo disguised as Larry trying to stop him 'cause past experience tells him it's a big no-no.
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I thought it was Larry dressed up as Naruhodo dressed up as Larry.

Yeah, I'll shut up now.
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Here's a minor but still inconsistency.
Dahlia's dress straps
in her Official Art they're White
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But in the iOS and 3ds they were colored red
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It's probably just an artist goof. I kinda prefer white because red straps would probably get mistaken as her hair in cases.
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Eh, red stripes on that dress was quite... ugly. By the way, on that first picture, her dress is white except for those things on the top - is it white in the game too? I always thought the entire dress was pink.
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Eh, red stripes on that dress was quite... ugly. By the way, on that first picture, her dress is white except for those things on the top - is it white in the game too? I always thought the entire dress was pink.

Her dress is white in pretty much every variation I've seen. Here's a Palette of her dress here
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the Left is the lightest part, middle is the darkest and the right is her lacey pink part at the top
This was taken from her DS/GBA sprite. I'm working on texturing her dress for 3D so that's how I noticed this discrepancy in the first place.
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Ah, really. You learn something everyday, I guess.
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By the way, for the sake of Ace Attorney, I can't understand a few things. I'd really love to list them out here. As they're pretty confusing to an AA Fan like me. :sillytrucy: Alright, enough with the silliness...

One: why does everyone think that Miles Edgeworth is Gay? Why? Just because someone wears a Cravat and a pink coat does not mean that he's a Gay Person. The same goes to Manfred von Karma.

Two: I honestly can't follow the "Edgeworth/Phoenix" Shonen-Ai. They're actually best buds or so since Grade School. Just being a Best Friend or such doesn't mean the fact that they're in love with each other. Seriously? I mean. BoyxBoy Pairing isn't real on Actual Life, unlike Japanese Manganiese life where even the impossible is possible. :nick:

Three: Just because on T&T Credits said that "...Franziska met with Adrian some times later after the trial...", everyone started to pair "Franziska/Adrian" as not a Friendly Relationship, but rather a Romantic Relationship. Sheesh, I honestly can't follow this type of Shojou-Ai. It's confusing. :meekins:

Four: Two + Three. Just because someone's a best friend of someone, they take it as a ROMANTIC pairing.
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To me it seems like most people who aren't shipping Edgeworth with Phoenix thinks he's asexual. As for Manfred... I haven't seen that many people claiming anything about his sexuality, so I can't speculate there.

And the reason they're shipped so often isn't because they're good friends but rather because of all the subtext.
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And I'll just have to add that a lot of people love shipping in general, even in cases where there is no subtext or hints whatsoever.

I always viewed him as asexual - I can't imagine him having any interest in anyone in a romantic or lustful manner.
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Three: Just because on T&T Credits said that "...Franziska met with Adrian some times later after the trial...", everyone started to pair "Franziska/Adrian" as not a Friendly Relationship, but rather a Romantic Relationship. Sheesh, I honestly can't follow this type of Shojou-Ai. It's confusing. :meekins:


Because people feel they'd make a nice couple, I'd guess. Also, they're two girls hanging out with a whip (she stated Franziska had taught her how to use one).
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Yes, they became all buddy-buddy with the whip.
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Stop making fun of meeeeeeeeee :accordion-head:

I mean yes. Why of course.
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I humbly apologize! (Where's a Palaeno-smiley when you need one?)

But, yes, yes. A friendship made in heaven.
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Ace Pointer wrote:
BoyxBoy Pairing isn't real on Actual Life



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Woah, woah, woah, I didn't even notice that... What was that supposed to mean, AcePointer? I read it as "couples with two men doesn't exist", but I hope I'm wrong and just misunderstood something? :eh?: And if I did, care to explain? "Where even the impossible is possible"? I just... don't know what to think here?
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Ace Pointer wrote:
By the way, for the sake of Ace Attorney, I can't understand a few things. I'd really love to list them out here. As they're pretty confusing to an AA Fan like me. :sillytrucy: Alright, enough with the silliness...

Okay, Ace. Since I believe you're being honest about this, I'll give you a serious answer. Read it through.

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One: why does everyone think that Miles Edgeworth is Gay? Why? Just because someone wears a Cravat and a pink coat does not mean that he's a Gay Person. The same goes to Manfred von Karma.

Nothing in the in-game canon explicitly says he is. However, it's still worth a laugh when the subtext does seem to suggest it, even if it's through a very skewed interpretation of trivial details. Whether or not he really is will most likely never be confirmed.

Besides, pink is not a color for gays; gay pride celebrates any color. And his coat/office is "supposed" to be closer to fuschia (or crimson in some illustrations).

And last but not least, Manfred von Karma obviously has a wife. He has two daughters. Let us not move into the mistress territory for everyone's sake.

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Two: I honestly can't follow the "Edgeworth/Phoenix" Shonen-Ai. They're actually best buds or so since Grade School. Just being a Best Friend or such doesn't mean the fact that they're in love with each other. Seriously? I mean. BoyxBoy Pairing isn't real on Actual Life, unlike Japanese Manganiese life where even the impossible is possible. :nick:

Shippers will be shippers no matter the fandom. How they interpret the relationship between two characters is entirely up to them. But, saying something like "male-male couples don't exist in real life" comes off as little else but being misinformed. Take care.

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Three: Just because on T&T Credits said that "...Franziska met with Adrian some times later after the trial...", everyone started to pair "Franziska/Adrian" as not a Friendly Relationship, but rather a Romantic Relationship. Sheesh, I honestly can't follow this type of Shojou-Ai. It's confusing. :meekins:

As above with Edgeworth, it's based on possible implications behind the text. I can't say I agree with these shippers either, since there really isn't enough context to put them at more than just friendship, but it is important to realize that Adrian plays a large part in Franziska's character development.

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Four: Two + Three. Just because someone's a best friend of someone, they take it as a ROMANTIC pairing.

...Yes.
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Yeah AcePointer,if you really think that it's impossible fr two men to be a couple,it could get you in trouble in Real Life.
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Woah, woah, woah, I didn't even notice that... What was that supposed to mean, AcePointer? I read it as "couples with two men doesn't exist", but I hope I'm wrong and just misunderstood something? :eh?: And if I did, care to explain? "Where even the impossible is possible"? I just... don't know what to think here?


I meant it as Boy Love. You know, Shonen-Ai/Yaoi? Kinda like those stuff. I mainly said that there is 99-100% chance that this sort of romance doesn't exist on real life. :yogi:
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
Ace Pointer wrote:
By the way, for the sake of Ace Attorney, I can't understand a few things. I'd really love to list them out here. As they're pretty confusing to an AA Fan like me. :sillytrucy: Alright, enough with the silliness...

Okay, Ace. Since I believe you're being honest about this, I'll give you a serious answer. Read it through.

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One: why does everyone think that Miles Edgeworth is Gay? Why? Just because someone wears a Cravat and a pink coat does not mean that he's a Gay Person. The same goes to Manfred von Karma.

Nothing in the in-game canon explicitly says he is. However, it's still worth a laugh when the subtext does seem to suggest it, even if it's through a very skewed interpretation of trivial details. Whether or not he really is will most likely never be confirmed.

Besides, pink is not a color for gays; gay pride celebrates any color. And his coat/office is "supposed" to be closer to fuschia (or crimson in some illustrations).

And last but not least, Manfred von Karma obviously has a wife. He has two daughters. Let us not move into the mistress territory for everyone's sake.

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Two: I honestly can't follow the "Edgeworth/Phoenix" Shonen-Ai. They're actually best buds or so since Grade School. Just being a Best Friend or such doesn't mean the fact that they're in love with each other. Seriously? I mean. BoyxBoy Pairing isn't real on Actual Life, unlike Japanese Manganiese life where even the impossible is possible. :nick:

Shippers will be shippers no matter the fandom. How they interpret the relationship between two characters is entirely up to them. But, saying something like "male-male couples don't exist in real life" comes off as little else but being misinformed. Take care.

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Three: Just because on T&T Credits said that "...Franziska met with Adrian some times later after the trial...", everyone started to pair "Franziska/Adrian" as not a Friendly Relationship, but rather a Romantic Relationship. Sheesh, I honestly can't follow this type of Shojou-Ai. It's confusing. :meekins:

As above with Edgeworth, it's based on possible implications behind the text. I can't say I agree with these shippers either, since there really isn't enough context to put them at more than just friendship, but it is important to realize that Adrian plays a large part in Franziska's character development.

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Four: Two + Three. Just because someone's a best friend of someone, they take it as a ROMANTIC pairing.

...Yes.

Explanation Accepted. I understand now. I can't deny about GirlxGirl Romance, but I really, really doubt that BoyxBoy Romance exists on the actual life... By the way, thanks... again. :phoenix:
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Do you mean that a man can't have a romantic relationship with a man in real life? Then I must live in an imaginary world since I've known several men being in love with men, for starters.
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It's an impossible tale, actually, WfG. No Male will ever want to make out with another Male or have relationship with another Male. It's basically Impossible. I. M. P. O. S. S. I. B. L. E.
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Not true. But I'll discuss it no further.
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It's an impossible tale, actually, WfG. No Male will ever want to make out with another Male or have relationship with another Male. It's basically Impossible. I. M. P. O. S. S. I. B. L. E.

If you really think that, then here's a task I have for you.
1. Go to a search engine such as Google.
2. Search "homosexual relationships statistics."
3. Click at least three of those links and read through the pages that are brought up.
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Ace Pointer, you may not be aware of it, but what you're saying there is incredibly offensive. And I don't mean the kind of offensive where drama llamas feel an urge to cry "I am offended", I mean actually, commonly agreed upon, offensive. In fact, were it not for your young age that makes it possible you're just clueless, I'd be tempted to think you're trolling us.
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Ace Pointer wrote:
One: why does everyone think that Miles Edgeworth is Gay? Why? Just because someone wears a Cravat and a pink coat does not mean that he's a Gay Person. The same goes to Manfred von Karma.

If I had to guess. I'd say that started with his "Saddled with 'unnessasary' feelings" and anyone who saw context in that line got their context reinforced when Miles called Phoenix his "Partner" with a coy smirk in 2-4.

It's no proof, just subtext and how people decide to see it.

and yes. Being in a mutual same sex relationship is VERY much possible, and honestly pretty common.
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It's an impossible tale, actually, WfG. No Male will ever want to make out with another Male or have relationship with another Male. It's basically Impossible. I. M. P. O. S. S. I. B. L. E.

If you really think that, then here's a task I have for you.
1. Go to a search engine such as Google.
2. Search "homosexual relationships statistics."
3. Click at least three of those links and read through the pages that are brought up.


...sumguy28. I'm saying "BoyXBoy". Homosexual means "Gay". GayXBoy Relationship is possible, but I never heard about BoyXBoy Pairings being real on Real Life. Never in my life. That is the main reason for me to call it an "Impossible".

The same goes to Pessimistic_Fool. No, I never heard of Same-Sex Relationship. By the way, How did I made any offense to that statement? And also, I somehow doubt that I'm trolling anyone here. As I said, I never, ever heard of "BoyXBoy" Pairing being Real on Actual Life.

Hope you good people will understand what I mean now. :athena:
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No, I don't understand shit actually. :gregory: Out of all the confusing things in this thread, this is probably the most confusing.
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Nice meme, Miles.

In case you didn't understand it, I meant that "I never heard of any 'Boy-Boy' Pairing being real. This was my first time I heard it, actually. I heard it being real only on Anime Lifes. Also, no. I'm not trolling anyone or whatever." Will that be all? :dahlia:

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But what do you mean by "boy" as opposed to "gay"? If you can see a "gay" and a "boy" being a thing... isn't that gay person also a boy? That's the part I don't understand.
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No crushed coffee mugs here. I'm staying out of the discussion since I feel I have nothing to say.
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But what do you mean by "boy" as opposed to "gay"? If you can see a "gay" and a "boy" being a thing... isn't that gay person also a boy? That's the part I don't understand.

Probably, I guess. :yogi:

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No crushed coffee mugs here. I'm staying out of the discussion since I feel I have nothing to say.

Fine, I understand what you mean. Uh oh... :coffee:
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It's an impossible tale, actually, WfG. No Male will ever want to make out with another Male or have relationship with another Male. It's basically Impossible. I. M. P. O. S. S. I. B. L. E.

If you really think that, then here's a task I have for you.
1. Go to a search engine such as Google.
2. Search "homosexual relationships statistics."
3. Click at least three of those links and read through the pages that are brought up.


...sumguy28. I'm saying "BoyXBoy". Homosexual means "Gay". GayXBoy Relationship is possible, but I never heard about BoyXBoy Pairings being real on Real Life. Never in my life. That is the main reason for me to call it an "Impossible".

The same goes to Pessimistic_Fool. No, I never heard of Same-Sex Relationship. By the way, How did I made any offense to that statement? And also, I somehow doubt that I'm trolling anyone here. As I said, I never, ever heard of "BoyXBoy" Pairing being Real on Actual Life.

Hope you good people will understand what I mean now. :athena:

I'm honestly kinda lost here. I'm not sure what you mean by BoyxBoy anymore. If you're homosexual and you're a boy and you like another boy then it'd still be BoyxBoy being homosexual does not equal you no longer being a boy. Hence, BoyxBoy = Gay(presuming a guy)xBoy

Also even if you mean something else (which is where I'm getting lost) then you still can't say so blatantly say it's impossible. I've never seen a kangaroo in my real life, must mean they don't exist right? Obviously not... But just an example of not seeing something=not real being false.
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...Silverbelle makes a nice point. I can understand completely about her reasoning, also about that "BoyXBoy" Relationship Thing. Thanks, Silver. :apollo:
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