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/edit- Nintendo's version of Sims 2 took out the ability to have homosexual relationships in it.. the computer version though, you can do it ALL.
...What? No it didn't. I have a gamecube Sims2 Edgeworth who got it on (many, many, MANY times) with the guy on the love boat. And married him. Because I was laughing hysterically about the idea.
Actually, my Sims2 Edgeworth has married every single person he's met in it...yes, I'm twisted. Shut up.
Anyway, sidetopic threadjack over. I haven't heard of any games with homosexual references or behaviors in them being banned. Nor can I think of any reason it would be, unless it was explicit stuff like that whole hot coffee mess, hidden in a Viva Pinata game and given an E rating, or something.
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I can, however, note that IN MY EXPERIENCE physical attraction is NOT necessarily a primary requirement of romantic love.
TMI probably BUT, the best relationships I have ever had, (including current long-standing one) did not start that way, but were built on an existing relationship of friendship and emotional attachment. The physical attraction grew after a period of time because, quite simply, when you care about someone deeply they become the hottest thing since hot sauce to you, which is kind of how it should be, I think.
The kind of sex that is triggered by physical attraction, IN MY EXPERIENCE, is less likely to be on the "spirtual bond" level IMO and more along the "Hur hur hubba hubba" level. (Although probably not always).
Also, there is no such thing as "selfless sex". And as a matter of fact, you *don't* need to keep having sex in order to keep "the communication alive". Good Lord is this the Victorian times?
(In re. answer to my own question about experience - whilst I may not have been round the block that many times compared to some, it is fair to note that if anyone on this board is 20 or younger then I am old enough to legally be your mother).
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There are some people I have found attractive right off the bat, but most of the time, I think my strongest attraction has been to people I've gotten to know. My affection for them makes them attractive to me in a way that a conventially attractive stranger could never match. So I really don't see Phoenix and Edgeworth as having a sexless relationship provided they got into one. (After all, Takumi himself said, jokingly, that Phoenix thinks Edgeworth has become a pretty cute guy.)
Phoenix and Edgeworth just aren't close enough for me to label their bond as familial, and I think their UST in court is just insanely thick. Part of the reason I'm so comfortable labeling it that way is because Phoenix has a bit of a blind spot when it comes to how he talks and reacts to Edgeworth. He doesn't seem to understand himself when it comes to how passionate and, well, scary he can come across when talking about Edgeworth, so it makes sense to me that any attraction would be subliminal too.
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There have been mothers as young as 7, I think.
Which is why I said legally. Although if that was a compliment thank you very much, young man. </oldbag>
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/edit- Nintendo's version of Sims 2 took out the ability to have homosexual relationships in it.. the computer version though, you can do it ALL.
...What? No it didn't. I have a gamecube Sims2 Edgeworth who got it on (many, many, MANY times) with the guy on the love boat. And married him. Because I was laughing hysterically about the idea.
REALLY? Wow, I only own the PC version, I was told by a relative that it didnt' allow it at all (and by some magazine, but it's been a year or more ago since I read that article, so I can't even remember WHAT magazine it was in). NEEEVERmind and topic done now.
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On a relatively more serious note, it had always struck me that Edgeworth maintained quite a bit of distance between himself and other people - most notably, his yearlong absences between the events of the games (which Phoenix dolorously mentions). And then the man shows up again, says some pithy phrases and helps Phoenix out as he visibly chokes back his inner feelings, and then *poof* he's gone yet again. Although those long gaps in time are ultimately unaccounted for and left up to the imagination, it would seem implied that there is little contact between Edgeworth and Phoenix. Indeed, Phoenix may have thought Edgeworth really did die the first time.
The second absence between JFA and T&T is more up for grabs, as Edgeworth is supposedly done with his soul-searching and is probably more receptive to personal interaction - but he continues to consume himself with work. Like his previous absence, it's entirely up to interpretation.
What I've taken up as more-or-less concrete are the fact that Phoenix and Edgeworth have a deep connection and possibility for a relationship, but that it remains largely unexplored. Edgeworth simply doesn't have the proximity. (Call me a hypocrite, but I believe that in this case a long-distance relationship wouldn't cut it. Edgeworth is so mired in himself it would probably take a face-to-face confrontation to bring out his inner feelings, which is what we see him do but twice in the games.)
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As far as Edgeworth and Phoenix not having a lot of face time, that's exactly what I was talking about earlier. To be honest, I don't even think they talk too terribly much when Edgeworth is out of the country--though I don't think they completely lose contact either. Just no three hour phone calls every other day or anything like that.
And still, Edgeworth, without question risks his career to help Phoenix and spends quite a bit of money rushing back when he hears he's hurt. So, I suppose if you look at it this way, you could define Phoenix and Edgeworth in a "pre-relationship"--abnormally strong feelings, UST, but absolutely no smoochy-smoochy huggy-huggy. And, as GS4 is (and probably even if it wasn't), they're highly unlikely to ever get to an actual relationship stage in canon, so... ::shrugs::
I suppose you could say that Edgeworth could meet someone in Europe, but Europe is a big place and we have no idea where Ema is. (I stuck her in England in my head-canon because I don't see her knowing any other languages, but that's just me.) Edgeworth, on the other hand, knows quite a few different languages, and I got the impression from the game for reasons I can't really remember that he was probably situated around Paris or thereabouts. (Plus Ema is much, much younger than him, and we've already gone over how her view of Edgeworth is shallow...though that could certainly change as she grows older.)
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Spookily enough, I also assumed Ema went to the UK somewhere. Heh. I hadn't thought of the language thing that was just the conclusion I leapt to in my mind.
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I'm simply not into slash. It doesn't make me puke, but it doesn't turn me on either. These two have a very cool rivalry/partnership/friendship, but I don't get anything out of imagining them together romantically, so I don't. Still, I'm sure if I went searching I'd find lots of 'evidence' to base an attraction or a relationship on.
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One of my favorite pairings. I have no trouble imagining that their deep friendship which can't be denied might evolve into something romantic. I believe that Maya's humor (what some people like to call her immaturity
) is actually one of the things Phoenix likes best about her and the relationship they have. That dynamic is a key feature of their relationship and needs to remain present even if their friendship turns into romance. It's true that there isn't 'hard' evidence that they would consider each other in a romantic way, but ignore Pearl's obsession at your own peril! One day she will prevail!!! 
(Actually, she already has, in my Ultra Course fanfiction at least... It's based on Pearl's lines in the credits where she wants to set them up for an even more advanced course than the special course Maya came to Hazakura Temple for. I try to show how their existing friendship could easily evolve into romance, with just as much funny banter as before, but also with serious conversation and little emphasis on physical attraction (for the moment). If you're a fan of Phoenix/Maya, or of well-written stories in general, have a look and tell me what you think!)
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I think writing these two into a relationship can be made to work, although there's a little more effort involved. I fully agree that they can't just pick up their relationship where they left off five years ago. But the scene at the end of the 3-5 case is very powerful and it shows that Dahlia couldn't even damage their trust in each other in the end, denying her even that small victory. (Too bad she wasn't there anymore so Mia could have thrown that in her face as well...) I don't think I'll explore the possibility with any seriousness, but I can see Phoenix putting in the effort to get to know her again after case 3-5, and as a writer, you can take things from there.
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To discuss this, I have to state my view on Godot. I actually feel fairly ambiguous about him. His 'let's blame Phoenix for everything' attitude doesn't sit well with me and doesn't speak of moral fortitude, but he sees the error of his ways in the end, realizing what kind of person he was being/becoming and turning away from it. Admitting to your flaws like that does take some serious spine and he managed to make up the deficit with that in my eyes (although he still has Misty's blood on his hands). Anyway, I don't mind imagining him and Mia together in the afterlife, although I prefer...
/ I regret that there is so little love for this pairing to be found, and I regret even more the shortsightedness of the majority of people who don't realize that
/ can still work as / 
or / 
. Honestly, people, we have spirit mediums. Use them and don't let little things like death get in the way of love! 
Anyway, on a more serious note, I think Phoenix and Mia make a terrific team. They still do despite her being dead. If she had lived, they could have been the stuff of legends as an ace attorney pair. But you can also argue that it may be her being dead which enables their great teamwork in the first place. Either way, I think they'd make a great couple.
(Actually, I'm currently working on a Phoenix/Channeled!Mia fic because there is a total shortage of that kind of story in the fandom and I figured if I wanted to read it, I'd have to write it myself. However, the plot bunny mutated several times and now it's turning into an ambitious (and smutty!) Phoenix/Mia/Maya piece. The first part is safe, though, and presented from Pearl's perspective for added hilarity. It can be found here, for anyone who is interested.)
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/ Not my cup of tea, but it's been proven to be entirely likely, assuming Phoenix doesn't get together with anyone he's expected to. I mean, sure, Phoenix and Edgeworth are close, but that doesn't mean they're in love either. Edgeworth seems to me the straight type. Phoenix too, because he was dating Dahlia, but then again, anything is possible. I won't bash this pairing, but I just don't see them as a good couple. My opinion, of course.
/ This is one I agree with. They're very close since the first game, and with all of Pearl's urging, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened at all. This is a good coupling to me because they seem to be close and they both seem to have a caring for one another throughout the games' serious and not so serious moments.
/ Fine with me. If it were ever even remotely possible, I'd be fine with it. They were meant to be together, really. It happened before, I assume, and could definetely happen again. But, as it stands, it could never physically happen.
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Two screwups in one couple? Classic. Great couple to me, because I can't see anyone else Gummy could possibly be with, and personally, I think it's a great idea to have these two hook up.
/ Now this is one gay couple I CAN bash, because I think it has no merit. Edgeworth always seems to hate Gumshoe, and Gumshoe sort of looks up to Edgeworth rather than loves him. I see them more as a sidekick/hero to be honest. It just makes no sense to me, but to each his own, I guess.
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I'm simply not into slash. It doesn't make me puke, but it doesn't turn me on either. These two have a very cool rivalry/partnership/friendship, but I don't get anything out of imagining them together romantically, so I don't. Still, I'm sure if I went searching I'd find lots of 'evidence' to base an attraction or a relationship on.
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One of my favorite pairings. I have no trouble imagining that their deep friendship which can't be denied might evolve into something romantic. I believe that Maya's humor (what some people like to call her immaturity ) is actually one of the things Phoenix likes best about her and the relationship they have. That dynamic is a key feature of their relationship and needs to remain present even if their friendship turns into romance. It's true that there isn't 'hard' evidence that they would consider each other in a romantic way, but ignore Pearl's obsession at your own peril! One day she will prevail!!!
/ I'm simply not into slash. It doesn't make me puke, but it doesn't turn me on either. These two have a very cool rivalry/partnership/friendship, but I don't get anything out of imagining them together romantically, so I don't. Still, I'm sure if I went searching I'd find lots of 'evidence' to base an attraction or a relationship on.
/ One of my favorite pairings. I have no trouble imagining that their deep friendship which can't be denied might evolve into something romantic. I believe that Maya's humor (what some people like to call her immaturity
) is actually one of the things Phoenix likes best about her and the relationship they have. That dynamic is a key feature of their relationship and needs to remain present even if their friendship turns into romance. It's true that there isn't 'hard' evidence that they would consider each other in a romantic way, but ignore Pearl's obsession at your own peril! One day she will prevail!!! To play devil's advocate, because this is what the thread is for:
Why can't Phoenix and Edgeworth's friendship evolve into something romantic, out of curiosity? After all, Maya calls herself Phoenix's sister at the end of 3-5, and labeling oneself family generally tends to rule out romance. There are no such holds on the friendship between Nick and Edgey.
There's no question that Phoenix loves Maya with all of his heart and vice versa, there's no question that they're hugely important--even most important--to one another. I just simply can't see it as romantic at all. Yes, she jokes... but look at how Phoenix responds to it, blowing her off, making references like "I almost wish she WOULD go off and join the circus," treating her like a little kid. Meanwhile, she treats him like an old fart. It's funny and affectionate, yes... but that's the sort of thing that while adorable in their pseudo-family dynamic, would seem almost creepy in a romantic relationship. If they were to become involved, that part of their dynamic would almost certainly change for it to be a healthy relationship--which is what you say is the crucial thing that has to NOT change.
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And to be honest I think aspects of M & P's relationship would also have to change for it to be healthy. They both (as I see it) have peculiar ways of dealing with each other that would need to be amended for it not to be destructive IMO.
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Why can't Phoenix and Edgeworth's friendship evolve into something romantic, out of curiosity? After all, Maya calls herself Phoenix's sister at the end of 3-5, and labeling oneself family generally tends to rule out romance. There are no such holds on the friendship between Nick and Edgey.
I never said it couldn't evolve. I merely stated that I don't try to imagine it because the idea doesn't have any appeal to me. (Probably similarly to how you view Phoenix/Maya.)Quote:
There's no question that Phoenix loves Maya with all of his heart and vice versa, there's no question that they're hugely important--even most important--to one another. I just simply can't see it as romantic at all. Yes, she jokes... but look at how Phoenix responds to it, blowing her off, making references like "I almost wish she WOULD go off and join the circus," treating her like a little kid. Meanwhile, she treats him like an old fart. It's funny and affectionate, yes... but that's the sort of thing that while adorable in their pseudo-family dynamic, would seem almost creepy in a romantic relationship. If they were to become involved, that part of their dynamic would almost certainly change for it to be a healthy relationship--which is what you say is the crucial thing that has to NOT change.
Okay, I guess I did change that dynamic in retrospect, as I have Phoenix trying to match her and joke back instead of brushing her off. I think in the games it's done mostly to contrast Phoenix's serious personality and if he jokes back he mostly does it in his head, but I can see Maya bring out that side in him more, and it lends itself better to a romantic relationship than the 'treating her like a little kid' thing (which I think he only does in response to her fooling around - it's not the gamut of their interaction). Did the way I have them interact in my story seem creepy to you? The way I view their relationship is presented there far better than I can do here with explanations.And I'm a little disappointed that Phoenix/Mia wasn't worthy of being commented on, especially after Mia's death. Even in crack fiction it doesn't pop up nearly enough, leaving alone serious attempts. The world is a cruel place...
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Phoenix and Mia:
Honestly, I tend to think that Phoenix was a little in love with his boss and the feeling hasn't diminished in her subsequent appearances. Barring Mia being a free woman and uninhibited about things (nothing wrong with that) and inviting him up to her room after the trial, there was no chance for them to become intimate.Nevertheless, I tend to think that a major inhibition to Maya and Phoenix is his attraction to Maya and the WEIRDED OUT feeling he must get everytime Mia is wearing her body.
Phoenix and Emma:
I guess I can buy this relationship much easier because Emma is sultry and mature in that still "wait a couple of more years" kind of way that Maya isn't. I think Emma certainly has heard of sex while Maya doesn't necessarilly seem like it is the case on occasion.Plus, the pair got along great. I could see quite an enjoyable time for the two.
Phoenix and Edgeworth:
I have less trouble buying Edgeworth as a homosexual in love with Phoenix than I do with Phoenix being gay and reciprocating. If Phoenix were bisexual, they would certainly make an excellent couple.But I imagine it's just a crush on Edgeworth's part
Phoenix and Trucy:
What? This is the UNSUBSTANTIATED one. It's just they're cute together, even if its disgusting and WRONG on every possible level. Yes, Phoenix adopted a girl to be his concubine!SHOCKING!
Phoenix and Lana:
Oddly, this would require them to be friends first but would essentially be Phoenix dating a female Edgeworth. However, like Mia it has the major benefit that apparently Phoenix is attracted to WOMEN as opposed to girls.
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Nevertheless, I tend to think that a major inhibition to Maya and Phoenix is his attraction to Maya and the WEIRDED OUT feeling he must get every time Mia is wearing her body.
Did you mean to say Mia and Phoenix here? (And you think Phoenix has an actual attraction to Maya? EXPLAIN. NOW.)Quote:
Phoenix and Ema::
Hmm... what about Maya/Ema? I think a meeting between those two would be epic. They would totally hit it off. Too bad it never happens in the games... And Phoenix and Maya got along just as great as these two, so why not them?
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Phoenix and Trucy: What? This is the UNSUBSTANTIATED one. It's just they're cute together, even if its disgusting and WRONG on every possible level. Yes, Phoenix adopted a girl to be his concubine!
SHOCKING!
Heh... what about What? This is the UNSUBSTANTIATED one. It's just they're cute together, even if its disgusting and WRONG on every possible level. Yes, Phoenix adopted a girl to be his concubine!SHOCKING!
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Did you mean to say Mia and Phoenix here? (And you think Phoenix has an actual attraction to Maya? EXPLAIN. NOW.)
I think that Phoenix might be attracted to Maya in the future, you know, were his ex-boss and much more sexually appealing Mia Fey not utterly throwing him off at times.
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Hmm... what about Maya/Ema? I think a meeting between those two would be epic. They would totally hit it off. Too bad it never happens in the games...
And Phoenix and Maya got along just as great as these two, so why not them?
And Phoenix and Maya got along just as great as these two, so why not them?
Gah, they'd kill Phoenix with Kawaii overload.
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I think that Phoenix might be attracted to Maya in the future, you know, were his ex-boss and much more sexually appealing Mia Fey not utterly throwing him off at times.
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Gah, they'd kill Phoenix with Kawaii overload.
Not only that... I picture them going from strangers to best friends immediately. There is no other possible outcome. Not exactly a 'pairing' like this thread probably intended, but if you add that, it gets even more interesting... 
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In my personal canon, Phoenix bashes his head against the desk repeatedly everytime Mia possesses Pearl. That's wrong on SO MANY levels.
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In the first game (1-1) maybe there was a bit of romantic tension between
/ - hell, Mia is hot, and she's just asked him out for "drinks" (hmmm...) Young Mia is even hotter, but spends her time taking the piss out Phoenix.There were certainly several great
/ lines in T&T, the "most important person" line or something like that. "We're hitting the big time!" from Maya (I thought Maya had cracked under pressure there for a bit) and Phoenix's line to Maya "I have something to ask you..." Just what was it?
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- With the information we have from the games, we know that Phoenix's tastes run towards "cute" rather than "hot" when it comes to women. Both Regina and Iris fit a general profile in looks--specifically in their faces and relatively unbusty figures. Phoenix gets flustered when attractive women in general come on to him, but the only ones we see attraction directing from him are the cute, almost burikko-ish ones.
- He never seems disturbed to see her pop up in either Maya or Pearl's body. He never gets flustered either, even though her boobs are always hanging out dangerously.
- Their general interaction. Even if you think that Mia was hitting on Phoenix after their first trial, after death, their relationships is purely mentor-student. She chides him like a mom sometimes, which I'd say isn't exactly conducive to a romantic relationship.
I could see Phoenix crushing on Mia a little bit, but I think it was something relatively easy to get over.
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And Phoenix DOES seem flustered and thrown off/with a mixture of happy to see her "alive" again with Mia's possessions.
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However, I personally didn't feel like he had any attraction to Mia or Maya.. but that's just me.
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Actually, it's not really Maya during the channeling. They mentioned a few times in the game that when they channel a spirit, the spirit medium's consciousness literally leaves their body so the channeled spirit can occupy their body temporarily. It would've been Mia in every sense except for the physical body. For people like Phoenix though, it would be really weird anyway to grasp the situation... especially if emotions were involved However, I personally didn't feel like he had any attraction to Mia or Maya.. but that's just me.
Actually, I don't think Phoenix would be unable to grasp the situation; he is quite knowledgeable about channeling after all the cases and adventures he's been through. The implications of Mia using Maya's body (or Pearl's) to make love with Phoenix are a much more confusing matter. There are certain ethical considerations that come with borrowing someone else's body. In writing fiction - fantasy - it's not always necessary to address this point, however I found it worked quite well in my own Phoenix/Channeled!Mia story called 'Inconclusive Evidence' (I had to start writing my own since it seems no one else is getting into that sub-genre of Phoenix/Mia...). However, I personally didn't feel like he had any attraction to Mia or Maya.. but that's just me.Quizer
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Well having your dead mentor suddenly standing next to you would have that effect on most people and I think a part of his reaction is simple shock. He really doesn't seem to react to her much physically and she treats him like a rambunctious little brother most of the time which would sort of kill the romance factor.
I tend to think its important to note that power dynamics are not always even in relationships. The Chief was extending the "friendship and maybe more" vibe after Phoenix fully became a lawyer and won his first case. She's definitely more experienced in the field but treats him more or less as an equal when they're talking post-death. It's only when Phoenix WAS a kid that she really gave him Hell.
He matured considerably.
And, DOH, I forgot about Trucy being 15. I swear, I kept mistaking her for 18 because she looks older than Maya does at the start of the series. While 18/33 is definitely on the edge of squicky, it wouldn't have the same results otherwise were Trucy to discover she didn't exactly feel for him like a Dad and Phoenix was always treating her as a Maya substitute.
Oh well.
I guess that torpedoes
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I will admit I never saw much attraction between them in the first case, but that could just be me, but the time they have to interact while she's still alive is extremely limited so its hard to judge it well. Still even in the first case, Mia treats Phoenix like a little brother; chiding him when he messed up and encouraging him when he needed it, and Phoenix doesn't seem to react to her much at all except that he's clearly happy she's there to help (he's a bit nervous after all and could use the support of a more experienced attorney to save his friend). She does take him out for a drink and they were planning on going out before her death, but they were going out with Maya before 1-2 which to me rings of a friends/family outing (you wouldn't usually bring your little sister on a date) and their going out for a celebratory drink isn't exactly unusual since they are clearly friendly and its not only the end of his first trial but his first win as well. She's proud of him, so she decides to treat him to a drink. Phoenix is upset by her death, but considering all she had done for him over the years, I would have been shocked if he wasn't severely effected by it (And he certainly handles the idea that they will never get the chance to be together rather well which strikes me as strange if he had truly had strong romantic feelings for her. Channeling Mia seems to work rather well for him which makes sense if they were friends, but not really if he ever harbored any romantic thoughts about her even in the back of his mind).
Some cute fanart of it out there though. :)
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On the Mia/Phoenix topic, I'm siding with Quizer. All I can say it is still the mentor-student relationship. I honestly don't see anything going on between them... Oh and..
Spoiler: 1-2, 1-3, 2-2, and maybe some 3-3
That probably made no sense, but in short... if Phoenix and Mia really did loved each other... I'm pretty sure Maya would be channeling her so the two can at least see each other once in awhile.
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That probably made no sense, but in short... if Phoenix and Mia really did loved each other... I'm pretty sure Maya would be channeling her so the two can at least see each other once in awhile.
I think fans consider Mia/Phoenix more "what could have been" rather than what was.
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She does take him out for a drink and they were planning on going out before her death, but they were going out with Maya before 1-2 which to me rings of a friends/family outing (you wouldn't usually bring your little sister on a date) and their going out for a celebratory drink isn't exactly unusual since they are clearly friendly and its not only the end of his first trial but his first win as well. She's proud of him, so she decides to treat him to a drink.
True.
On the other hand, you can consider it...
1. Hey, Phoenix, want to COME UP for a drink.
2. Hey, let me introduce you to my family.
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