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Lol! I love your pun.
And I basically agree with everything you just said. :butzthumbs: I wish Pearly could've gotten a more mature new look though.


I just noticed that. Kind of uncreative, they just gave Pearls a stretch: No longer hair or different clothes or something! I thought that from 9-years-old to ummmm...16(?) years-old is a big difference in the growth of a person.

I wonder if she keeps thinking about Phoenix being Maya's "Special Someone" :pearl-blush:
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I'm so glad I came upon this thread. I only joined the forums yesterday, so I haven't really looked around much, but with Phoenix/Maya being my OTP for Ace Attorney, how could I not post on this thread?
Spoiler: The Newest Trailer
Now that Pearly is confirmed to be back, I have really high hopes about Maya actually appearing in the Duel Destines. What I want to know is how Capcom is going to explain Maya's absence. I hope they handle that well, and not just hand wave.

And yes, I also wish Pearl had a more mature look now that's she's sixteen or seventeen. But oh well, she's back isn't she?

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That picture makes me happy.

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Lucky icer bumped this topic just in time...This club is the sole reason I joined this site but couple fan clubs aren't the only cool thing around here.
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Lucky icer bumped this topic just in time...This club is the sole reason I joined this site but couple fan clubs aren't the only cool thing around here.

Shipping never gets old, I guess xD
I wish I could draw my favorite pairings...But my only artistic discipline is piano. :oops:
My reason I joined the forums was because I have no real life friends that likes Ace Attorney and I wanted to talk about it sooooo much!
Back to topic!
I'm planning on writing a role-reversal fic of Phoenix and Maya (Maya being the lawyer and Phoenix being the assistant.), I never wrote a fanfic before so I need help from professionals!
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I'm back from slaying a monster called "University"!

Yeah, ouch... :acro:
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I'm planning on writing a role-reversal fic of Phoenix and Maya (Maya being the lawyer and Phoenix being the assistant.), I never wrote a fanfic before so I need help from professionals!

That's a good idea. I don't *think* it has been done either.
This is some kind of AU right?
Would Mia have existed and been murdered and all?
Maya was originally going to be another junior lawyer in training, but then they changed it :)
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I'm not exactly a professional but I guess I could help. :/

Need any advice?...Well for starters I would say never throw away what you write...No matter how much it sucks. It can help you see how much you have inproved and maybe you'll find it later and improve it.

I look forward to reading your fanfic.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
I'm not exactly a professional but I guess I could help. :/

Need any advice?...Well for starters I would say never throw away what you write...No matter how much it sucks. It can help you see how much you have inproved and maybe you'll find it later and improve it.

I look forward to reading your fanfic.


@ Micaela Mousiki Yeah just write something, you can always edit it later. (It probably IS a good idea to edit it later...) But the important thing is to just write the fanfic. It's not like we ARE supposed to reach 'professional' standard :will: Everyone just wants to read P/M. Ugh my first fanfic was terrible... but people still keep favouriting it on fanfiction.net for some reason.

Of course it's probably better to have some idea of the premise before you start writing, so just use your imagination, and once you have an idea, write.

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My reason I joined the forums was because I have no real life friends that likes Ace Attorney and I wanted to talk about it sooooo much!

Yeah I always wonder how you meet those people. Aside from embarrassing yourself by going to a convention in PW cosplay or something. (I'd only do that if I ALREADY had someone to go with.) I guess this is a niche game isn't it. The fact it's a while since the initial popularity of the DS releases of PW1/2 etc doesn't help.

The main reason I joined (or at least participated) THESE forums was actually to talk P/M though :pearl:

Also, everyone else can just bump this topic by replying :hoboleft: we have to keep it visible on the front page. A lot of prehistoric threads seem to have been bumped recently.

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I just noticed that. Kind of uncreative, they just gave Pearls a stretch: No longer hair or different clothes or something! I thought that from 9-years-old to ummmm...16(?) years-old is a big difference in the growth of a person.


Yeah, it was a bit uncreative, she does have a slightly longer hair, she has one side thing with a pearl. But she looks younger than 17. I'll put up with that because she must have a weird bulgy-eye gene like Iris. I'm just hoping they're not using this for Maya to not appear, because you know, Pearl is the Teenage Sidekick now, 17 like Maya in the first game. Pearl can say Maya's stuck in a cave training bla bla bla, without ignoring the fact she even existed, and they don't have to redraw her or anything.

Come on, do something good, writers! It's not that hard? I hold out this vague optimistic hope she does have some 'important', albeit brief, role in the game, (like a final case) and it's all been hidden due to spoilers. The pain of waiting is... getting painful. :larry: I'd ask what anyone else thought, but I guess we just have to wait for the damn game release to confirm or deny everything.... I'm still interested to know though! What are you predicting about this game re: Maya, given what we know?

Everyone is desperate to see her! Did you see that weird 'theory' where someone thought she was a murder victim? It is clearly just because everyone demands to know where she is and clings to ANYTHING.

If Iris comes back something bad will happen to someone
Never mind, I doubt Pearl would set up P/I so probably she won't
Please don't put Maya on trial for murder again, although I guess it's better than not seeing her
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I wonder how they're gonna play off Pearl's appearance in the first place.
"It's been a long time Mr. Nick."
Hopefully she didn't mean 8 years......

"Mystic Maya's getting too old, she needs a successor soon! Mr. Nick, hurry back with me to the village!" :pearl-blush:
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I wonder how they're gonna play off Pearl's appearance in the first place.
"It's been a long time Mr. Nick."
Hopefully she didn't mean 8 years......


Yeah, I will personally slap someone if that happens....

It's so dumb when things act like chars couldn't have seen each other since the last game, even when it was made pretty obvious they WOULD. Larry was 'in Nepal' as GS3's cover when he skipped GS2, but he was just a kind of joke character we can explain away, the cover wasn't necessary, it's just like maybe Phoenix didn't see him the days of the game, they're not married or anything?

Now we assume Pearl would visit Phoenix without Maya for something related to mentioning Maya, but since GK was so full of Dumb Cameos for No Reason, then...
So I'm thinking it will be 'Oh Hi Mr Nick, Maya is STILL too busy stuck in a cave/off on a world spirit channelling tour since a year ago without me so she sent me to check on you since we haven't seen you for (8) years or something oh remember that Magatama?' *sigh*

I don't buy that 'training' or 'busy' rubbish at all. Being Kurain Master was some fantastic thing people killed over. It is THE CANON Maya would NOT be too 'busy' and would be Master AND 'Assistant General Manager' of Wright and Co. THE CANON DAMN IT. :chinami: So hopefully the new writers know they can't really get away with being so cheap.

I wish they'd make a HD release of GS4 simply to see whether the easter-egg-cameo really made Larry/Iris 'canon'
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Canonically, Maya's the only person we know for sure Phoenix was still in contact with during his disbarment. That stack of DVDs came from only one person and he speaks of writing reports to prove he's been watching. It's mutual interaction that very, very likely goes beyond that.

If they attempt to claim that they haven't spoken in eight years, they've broken canon and caused a paradox. The best way to handle Maya's return, in my opinion, is to show her and Phoenix picking up as though nothing has changed and focusing more on the shock Apollo and Trucy have.
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That stack of DVDs came from only one person and he speaks of writing reports to prove he's been watching. [..] focusing more on the shock Apollo and Trucy have.


The 'new' writers could easily miss that easter egg though.
Now despite all fanfics, it would be weird if Trucy didn't know about Maya.
Apollo, however, clearly knows nothing....

It's pretty easy though (if they could be bothered...). Maya can turn up to do something important and useful to do with a climax case, like some vital evidence like 999999999999 other cases (and that's 'why she wasn't there earlier' or something.) What, I'm not 100% sure. And here I was hoping she'd come to give us a black psyche lock upgrade :larry: I don't really care if she isn't intro'd to the rest of the cast. She's clearly not going to be in the first 2 cases at minimum, so I don't think she'll be hanging out at Wright and Co with everyone.
It won't be 'confusing for new players' for her to turn up 'dramatically' in a final case because Pearl would have already mentioned her.

Afterwards, she proposes to Phoenix, and they ride off happily into the sunset the end
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Emiko Gale wrote:
I'm not exactly a professional but I guess I could help. :/

Need any advice?...Well for starters I would say never throw away what you write...No matter how much it sucks. It can help you see how much you have inproved and maybe you'll find it later and improve it.

I look forward to reading your fanfic.


Thanks for the advice, I'll try my best on it!

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@ Micaela Mousiki Yeah just write something, you can always edit it later. (It probably IS a good idea to edit it later...) But the important thing is to just write the fanfic. It's not like we ARE supposed to reach 'professional' standard :will: Everyone just wants to read P/M. Ugh my first fanfic was terrible... but people still keep favouriting it on fanfiction.net for some reason.

Of course it's probably better to have some idea of the premise before you start writing, so just use your imagination, and once you have an idea, write.


Thank you very much! I'll upload in FF.Net as soon as I post the first chapter! :keiko:
But, it's been a while the last time I played an AA game, so it's a high chance that I forgot many things about it so I should recap before starting.
Aaaaanyway, thanks for the encouragement and this shall be fun!
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http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity/b/416174590

(I haven't watched it)

but supposedly

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6. Maya hinted as a returning character? (No denial of Maya)
When asked if Maya would return, Eshiro simply said something along the lines of "I wonder about Maya...", being deliberately vague. In light of his response to the question about Gumshoe, this seems to indicate Maya will return (as if we didn't know that already).

7. Detective Gumshoe will not be in Dual Destinies (Most likely)
When asked about Gumshoe, Eshiro said that he didn't know what Gumshoe was up to these days, and another Capcom host said something along the lines of "Well, you can't have every character come back in every single game". This means that Gumshoe probably won't appear.


watch it yourselves and see what you think? I don't have time today :/
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Gumshoe!!! :'(
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Gumshoe!!! :'(

Yeah.

MAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!


Okay.
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The exact quotes we, "Wonder about Maya, huh? His lips are sealed, sorry guys," and "He doesn't really know where Gumshoe went, but we have Detective Fulbright to fill in his shoes."

So by comparing the two it's very likely Maya will have a role of some importance or she'd just have been shown already like Pearl and Klavier. Actually, I wish someone had asked about those two to gauge the response. We know they're coming back but they weren't officially announced or anything. It would have been a good way to judge their cryptic response.
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The exact quotes we, "Wonder about Maya, huh? His lips are sealed, sorry guys," and "He doesn't really know where Gumshoe went, but we have Detective Fulbright to fill in his shoes."

So by comparing the two it's very likely Maya will have a role of some importance or she'd just have been shown already like Pearl and Klavier. Actually, I wish someone had asked about those two to gauge the response. We know they're coming back but they weren't officially announced or anything. It would have been a good way to judge their cryptic response.


With Simon and Edgeworth in the game, I can't picture any kind of role Klavier would play. He didn't really have a whole lot of overall significance in AJ to begin with except that he was Kristoph's little brother. Which also makes me wonder if the mystery of those black psyche-locks over Kristoph will finally be revealed.

As for Pearl, it's pretty much obvious now that with she's here, Maya will eventually have to turn up. I wonder if she still thinks she and Nick are still "special someone's" after all this time?
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Mayaaaaaaa.... :larry:
Don't disappoint me writers....

Oh, Google Fail, when you type 'ace attorney 5 release date' it gives you this as its 'answer'
April 12, 2007
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, Release date


I'm getting paranoid now. So long to wait. If Maya's role is indeed covered up because it's 'important', it could be anything to be milked for cheap drama. This was supposedly 'a darker game'... Or it could be, you know, nothing, just a stupid stupid tiny cameo.

It's interesting Pearl is on the POSTER. But I think that doesn't mean much, if you compare to past posters. Klavier is damn huge (ewwwww). I WANT the poster, despite the lack of Maya. Phoenix looks awesome.
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I really hope Maya's in the upcoming game. I would also like it if Phoenix and Maya became canon, but I doubt that'll ever happen - that'd upset the yaoi fanbase, wouldn't it?

Also, from what I've seen when it comes to Japanese games, love isn't that big of a focus, or at the very least it is much less subtle than what we're used to.

For instance, in the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, you keep getting hints that both Link and Zelda have a thing for the other and at the end you can sort of see them holding hands for a split second.

In Mass Effect you can have awkward space sex all night long.
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I really hope Maya's in the upcoming game. I would also like it if Phoenix and Maya became canon, but I doubt that'll ever happen - that'd upset the yaoi fanbase, wouldn't it?

Also, from what I've seen when it comes to Japanese games, love isn't that big of a focus, or at the very least it is much less subtle than what we're used to.

For instance, in the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, you keep getting hints that both Link and Zelda have a thing for the other and at the end you can sort of see them holding hands for a split second.

In Mass Effect you can have awkward space sex all night long.


You forgot about those visual novel games that center around romance.
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I really hope Maya's in the upcoming game. I would also like it if Phoenix and Maya became canon, but I doubt that'll ever happen - that'd upset the yaoi fanbase, wouldn't it?

Also, from what I've seen when it comes to Japanese games, love isn't that big of a focus, or at the very least it is much less subtle than what we're used to.

For instance, in the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, you keep getting hints that both Link and Zelda have a thing for the other and at the end you can sort of see them holding hands for a split second.

In Mass Effect you can have awkward space sex all night long.


You forgot about those visual novel games that center around romance.


I believe I said something along the lines of "from what I've seen". And my point still stands, even if I phrased it in a lighter manner - we've seen fairly little of actual romance in the game, and declaring a certain shipping canon, when there are so many different ones to go for, would inevitably end up making a lot of people angry, so I don't think they'll do that.

That said, I'd like it if Maya and Phoenix ended up together. I like their dynamic.
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I was very disappointed when Maya wasn't even mentioned by Phoenix in Apollo Justice.

Then again... it created lots of space for angsty fanfictions.
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I was very disappointed when Maya wasn't even mentioned by Phoenix in Apollo Justice.

Then again... it created lots of space for angsty fanfictions.

She was mentioned. Just not by name.
Examine the cases of DVDs in Hickfield clinic and you get this:
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Apollo: A swaying, spiraling stack of DVDs.
"The Steel Samurai", "The Nickel Samurai"...
"The Pink Princess", "The Zappy Samurai: Electric Bugaboo"...
They're all children's action hero shows...
Phoenix: This "kid" I know keeps sending them to me.
Apollo: Huh. Like a niece or a nephew?
Phoenix: ...Something like that.
Apollo: Quite the collection. This kid's parents must be really generous with their allowance.
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I really hope Maya's in the upcoming game. I would also like it if Phoenix and Maya became canon, but I doubt that'll ever happen - that'd upset the yaoi fanbase, wouldn't it?

Also, from what I've seen when it comes to Japanese games, love isn't that big of a focus, or at the very least it is much less subtle than what we're used to.

For instance, in the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, you keep getting hints that both Link and Zelda have a thing for the other and at the end you can sort of see them holding hands for a split second.

In Mass Effect you can have awkward space sex all night long.


You forgot about those visual novel games that center around romance.


True, but GS isn't one of them :sadshoe:
Mayaaaaaaaa... ugh waiting for GS5 (and if and how we'll see her) is a pain.
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Kyaaaa!!!!! >.<

There's more by that artist, I'll post them when I have more time... like tomorrow (yay!)
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Hello, wanted to introduce another Phoenix/Maya fan to you: Me! :will:

I haven't read all of the posts yet and I don't know if that's been discussed before, but...am I the only who couldn't see the two of them being an actual couple (as in romantically involved) in the trilogy (to me, just simply because of Maya's age), but desperately wants to see that happen in Dual Destinies now!? I know, got my hopes up too high, but whatever. :yogi:
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(Nice to see new members at the club)

I disagree...At the end of the first game I wondered and Justice For All made me a fan...Besides, Maya is legal in Justice For All.

But I can see where you're coming from.
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Hello, wanted to introduce another Phoenix/Maya fan to you: Me! :will:

I haven't read all of the posts yet and I don't know if that's been discussed before, but...am I the only who couldn't see the two of them being an actual couple (as in romantically involved) in the trilogy (to me, just simply because of Maya's age), but desperately wants to see that happen in Dual Destinies now!? I know, got my hopes up too high, but whatever. :yogi:


To be honest, I didn't see them as being a romantic couple in the first three games.

However, I do see the ambiguity in their relationship, the potential. And if the possibility of moving more toward romance hasn't been considered at least once within that eight year gap (and not just because Pearl told them to)...well, I'd be surprised.
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Hello, wanted to introduce another Phoenix/Maya fan to you: Me! :will:

I haven't read all of the posts yet and I don't know if that's been discussed before, but...am I the only who couldn't see the two of them being an actual couple (as in romantically involved) in the trilogy (to me, just simply because of Maya's age), but desperately wants to see that happen in Dual Destinies now!? I know, got my hopes up too high, but whatever. :yogi:


Welcome to the club! :kissy: *more confetti*
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Um well okay.
I think we know they aren't an 'official couple' during games 1-3.
BUT IT MUST HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because, um, that's the point of shipping. The thought of them not being together makes me... depressed. Like, you know Maya disappearing and never being seen again... The thought of them being together makes me delirious.

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Of course. It won't, but anything can be fixed with fanfic I guess :pearl:

Do you think they'll pull that rubbish Maya just disappeared 7/8 years ago? I mean, like she really did? Went off to 'train' and never returned? I suppose it's better than ignoring her existing or just being 'too busy to ever show up' *sigh* look I know all about the DVD scene but it's something the new writers could easily fail to notice.

Also Dual Destinies is a stupid name... just saying.... :sadshoe:
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Hello, everyone!!
truly, it's been years (?) since i used this account, but i wanted to say how happy i am about DualDestinies and the spoilers, i want to see Maya again so badly. Also, you could say that my desire for this lovely pairing to become canon burns with the fire of a thousands suns (explicitly canon i mean, because c'mon there's so many subtle and not-so-subtle hints!!). It hurts because that may not happen ;A; ugh these life ruiners are disgustingly cute together, haha.
btw, im just starting to play PW3
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(though i'm kinda spoiled already u.u) and the bridge on fire scene crushed my poor shipper soul. like, the fear to lose Maya is bigger for Nick than the phobia to high places (and fire...and death lol)

IF THAT'S NOT LOVE IDK WHAT IT IS.

Well now it's time to ~*share*~ the only two fanart of these two i've made (so far!) the styles're different 'cos one is from 2009 xP

here (there's a mini fic too....sort of, haha

and here! :)

also phuc typos my english's not the best :pearl-blush:
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...I adore that first fanart! Seeing Maya grab Nick's tie and trying to feed him a burger...That's just too cute. >.<
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Welp, it seems after not using my account for 2 years, I'm baaaaaack :)

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One thing I feel people should understand is Pearls. People are saying they'd change the art design and all that but think about it from their shoes. If they change the artwork too much no one would recognize her as the same old Pearls we all know and love.


Now regarding Maya...

I understand WHY she shouldn't really be in GS 5 because they need to get the plot flowing first. Something that they should do however, it add more hints to the game. Like in Apollo Justice there was I believe on hint and that's it.
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Nagu wrote:
Hello, everyone!!
truly, it's been years (?) since i used this account,

Well now it's time to ~*share*~ the only two fanart of these two i've made (so far!) the styles're different 'cos one is from 2009 xP

here (there's a mini fic too....sort of, haha

and here! :)

Welcome back!!!!!!!

Agreed, they're both awesome. The expression on Phoenix's face for 'Hamburger'...
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I’m in the case in wich Maya is accused of the murder of Doctor Grey. At a point Nick breAKS THE FREAKIN DOOR TO GET TO MAYA AFTER THE CANALIZATION

UGH SO MUCH FEELINGS HELP

(well actually i choosed to break the door, but the option was there so your argument is invalid)

Yeah isn't it a great moment? I loooove 2-2 so much!

Unrelated but I always liked this pic

Chidori__O wrote:
I understand WHY she shouldn't really be in GS 5 because they need to get the plot flowing first.

Welcome back to you to....

I don't. If Maya isn't there we just wonder where the heck she is?
There's no need to form more Fey PLOT, if that's what you mean. But that's not necessary. It's like Gumshoe in the earlier games or something. It's not like we get some fancy backstory or development of his plot when he cameos.
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I relate to Pearl a lot. In that I ship Phoenix/Maya almost as hard as she does.

Almost.

Also, did you notice that

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Pearl says "he would even walk over hot coals for her" and, later on, Phoenix runs across a burning bridge to try and save her?

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Immoroita wrote:
I relate to Pearl a lot. In that I ship Phoenix/Maya almost as hard as she does.

Almost.

Also, did you notice that

Spoiler: 3-5 spoiler
Pearl says "he would even walk over hot coals for her" and, later on, Phoenix runs across a burning bridge to try and save her?


Yeah I actually thought about that. They also never deny actually being in a relationship/being in love do they? I wonder what Maya has told Pearl anyway...I mean, she was 8 the last time those three walked around solvin' mysteries.

Also, Franziska still has that card...I'm just saying.

Although it's probably forgotten.
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What if Maya got the card back offscreen?
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What if Maya got the card back offscreen?


I wouldn't rule out the possibility, even if it would be a waste of free fan service.

Besides, didn't Franziska say she'd give it to Phoenix one day?
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Thane wrote:
Emiko Gale wrote:
What if Maya got the card back offscreen?


I wouldn't rule out the possibility, even if it would be a waste of free fan service.

Besides, didn't Franziska say she'd give it to Phoenix one day?


Yeah...But I think she said when they meet in court again...Just thinking about this is giving me serious feels.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
Thane wrote:
Emiko Gale wrote:
What if Maya got the card back offscreen?


I wouldn't rule out the possibility, even if it would be a waste of free fan service.

Besides, didn't Franziska say she'd give it to Phoenix one day?


Yeah...But I think she said when they meet in court again...Just thinking about this is giving me serious feels.


It IS very cute, I agree. Still, we've seen nothing of Franziska yet, have we? I honestly don't mind, other than missing the opportunity to give back the card (some eight years later...)

Oh well, I still doubt they'll make Maya or Phoenix canon in Dual Destinies. Even if it looks like they're dropping hints everywhere, I feel like they're not suddenly going to focus on romance, and certainly not enough to validate it. Which is a shame, I like well-portrayed romance.
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