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Who does like College Phoenix (besides me)? Everyone seems to hate him. :yuusaku:


I love him! XD He's so adorable.

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-I hate Brushel, because he makes me physically nauseated every time he appears onscreen.


Oh good, I'm not the only one. I felt ill just looking at him, and when it came time to do that Perceive... ugh, oh my GOD! I never, ever, would have thought to look THERE on my own, and had to resort to a FAQ to find out what I had to do there. I seriously wanted to puke, almost, when I read up on it. :x
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Isn't Iris supposed to be more of a Yamato Nadeshiko than a Mary Sue? I mean, she bases her life around helping the people she loves (Dahlia and then Phoenix), she has sort of a subdued personality, and she accomplishes her goals using influence rather than force (the whole getting the poison bottle back thing.) From what I've heard, Iris was a lot more popular in Japan, where the idea of the Yamato Nadeshiko is recognised and liked, than in America, where people basically went "oh she's too perfect she's gotta be a Sue mehhhhhh", and that could explain why, that she just didn't translate too well culturally.

Still not a fan of Iris as a girlfriend for Phoenix, but this made me like Iris as a character a little better at least.
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Kristoph Gavin... I don't really understand why people like him. =P
And Klavier as well, but he might get better in future games.
Adrian as well.

There's probably other people but I can't think of any at the moment.
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Annegata wrote:
Isn't Iris supposed to be more of a Yamato Nadeshiko than a Mary Sue? I mean, she bases her life around helping the people she loves (Dahlia and then Phoenix), she has sort of a subdued personality, and she accomplishes her goals using influence rather than force (the whole getting the poison bottle back thing.) From what I've heard, Iris was a lot more popular in Japan, where the idea of the Yamato Nadeshiko is recognised and liked, than in America, where people basically went "oh she's too perfect she's gotta be a Sue mehhhhhh", and that could explain why, that she just didn't translate too well culturally.


That makes sense; and indeed, that's the trope I see her as fitting into, more than a Mary Sue. (Plus, I firmly believe that she has some definite faults, such as cowardice and often lacking a real spine - I think that maybe some of the tragedy that ensued could've been averted if she'd been able to summon up the courage to defy Dahlia sooner. And when you think about it... she was ACTIVELY trying to help Dahlia conceal her attempted murder of Diego. It's very interesting when you think about the fact that he likely was not aware of that until her revelation in the courtroom about her deception during those months of dating Phoenix...

But all that only endears her to me more, as I love flawed characters, and hers make for someone interesting for me to write about.)

I also don't really get the Wellington love. @_@
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I know Brushel's smile is nauseating, but I feel he is redeemed by his personality.
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:damon:
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Now,this is probably influenced by the fact that Goodman is my favorite character,but he's pure evil anyway.He kills two innocent people and manipulates Lana,for the sake of having power.That is just awful.He is also one of the most annoying characters I've had the displeasure of meeting.


:maya: Stop being useless sometimes.Don't tell me that you worked hard to make that stupid box,I need it for evidence.Stop getting into trouble.That is all.

:edgeworth: There's more art of him than there is of PHOENIX for goodness sake.All he is is the typical "boo-hoo,I've had a tragic past,love me,"pretty boy character.
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I actually don't hate any of the characters with a burning passion. There are some that I'm not fond of due to their morally incorrect decisions (i.e. murderers) but I enjoy the cast and think they're all interesting. I wouldn't change any of the characters, seeing as they aren't meant to have dynamics that make them appeal to everyone. Sometimes characters are meant to drive you up the wall, make you cringe, or just plain anger you. If everyone loved all of the characters, I'd be worried.

Some of my less favorite characters were the ones that were tedious to try and get information out of, but that's what makes the game interesting right? It wouldn't be much fun if everyone was nice. :D Heck, we wouldn't have a plot!
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:karate: :karate: :karate:

I tried to accept him, something...but alas, I really despise everything about him for some reason.
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:hotti: Ok, I've never seen anybody who actually likes him, but he's probably my least favorite character. He creeps me the hell out.

:grossburg: According to the polls, some people actually like him. I thought his constant talk about his butt problems was nasty. "Grossburg" indeed.

:jake: Being a cowboy is fine, but he overdoes it. He's just plain annoying.

:two-faced: Pisses me off with her attitude.

:notes: She's growing on me, but when I first started playing, I found her irritating, and I didn't understand why she has so many fans.

:ditz: Talking to her really tries my patience. How can anyone be that stupid?
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Wellington, because... well...

I don't know, I just hate his essence.
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I live with my fangirl-room mate and I want to kill her!!
(or deKiller can do it...)
and Ini. She's so stupid and hearing her testimony and such is just...draining...
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Klavier Gavin.
I live with my fangirl-room mate and I want to kill her!!


You're pretty lucky to have a roommate who's an AA fan at all though, aren't you?
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Let's see, :gant: :godot:
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:whip: Stop it...just...stop it...you're not entertaining...you're not even a good villain like your father was...you're just a whiny little brat.
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Wellington, because... well...

I don't know, I just hate his essence.


Ummmmmmm pretty much everyone but me and like three other people hate him :C
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:edgeworth: There's more art of him than there is of PHOENIX for goodness sake.All he is is the typical "boo-hoo,I've had a tragic past,love me,"pretty boy character.


...please have my internet babies 8D
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As for the character I dislike the most.....

Kristoph Gavin

His brother is awesome,but he sucks.
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Characters I dislike are the following such as Wendy Oldbag, Jean Armstrong and Sal Manella are characters I definitely don't like at all she talks way too much and there both weirdos.
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In relation to the thread, I really hated most of the Apollo Justice characters apart from Phoenix, Vera and Trucy.

:odoroki: = A Phoenix wannabe that desperately want his vocal chords back and lacks a spine whenever it came to things. I mean that. All he does is just complain, complain and complain. His lack of style is just so boring that if a snail wanted to suicide, it'll zip faster towards that running car and get squashed before I have to deal with his style.

:kyouya: = A Guitar Hero. Wrong game bastard and lay off the weak prosecution attacks. Boys play with air guitars but men play with fire. Whoops, forgot you played with fire for a bit. Too bad that it wasn't bleeding love when you did that.

:Kristoph-hair: = That's the only time I actually laughed. I mean, I'll be in freaking prison for DUI if I had hair like that.
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:chinami: i know shes cute and her evilness are cool but


you're trying to say that there actually are people who like her?? I didn't like her in any way at all, not her "nice" side and not the other one.

Yeah apparently, she has fans O____O;;
and i hate her too X_______x;;
i also hate
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but does anyone really like him?
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I like Larry. He's pathetic, but I find his particular type of loserdom endearing.
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I don't like Apollo Justice one bit. I think it's wrong that Phoenix isn't the main character.
So to all of you Apollo-fans.

Objection!

PS: I like Larry! His always jumps to conclusions and 90% of the time acts like a child.
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:whip: Stop it...just...stop it...you're not entertaining...you're not even a good villain like your father was...you're just a whiny little brat.



Franziska is definitely a bit on the bratty side, but I don't think she was intended to be a villain, at least not to the degree her father was.


Honestly, I'm liking :godot: less and less. His coffee thing and weird metaphors have gotten quite old. He's not a very good prosecutor, either.Sometimes it even seems like he's trying to lose a case on purpose.
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moonfall wrote:
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:whip: Stop it...just...stop it...you're not entertaining...you're not even a good villain like your father was...you're just a whiny little brat.



Franziska is definitely a bit on the bratty side, but I don't think she was intended to be a villain, at least not to the degree her father was.


Yeah, but that's part of my problem with her - she's neither likable, nor evil enough to get a really enjoyable hate on. Manfred was EVIL, and I liked him (or, rather, enjoyed what he brought to the game) for it. Franziska's just obnoxious.

If she gave some sign of being redeemable, like Edgeworth, or 'just doing the job', like Payne, she'd be pitiable, given her history. If she went whole hog and did something on the level of what her old man did, she could be enjoyed as a villain. But, she did neither, so....
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Klavier Gavin.
I live with my fangirl-room mate and I want to kill her!!


You're pretty lucky to have a roommate who's an AA fan at all though, aren't you?


Yeah. At least!

Oh and I just remembered!
:jake:
He thinks he's a....cowboy?
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Kamino Neko wrote:
I like Larry. He's pathetic, but I find his particular type of loserdom endearing.



I dunno :< i liked larry at first but after replaying the games i found him annoying XD;; especially when compared to louie from Hotel Dusk c: He's AWESOME. XD
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I just hate Ema at AJ, Geez, just stay in Europe, I don't want her, Gumshoe is much better, he deserves it more than her! >:
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I just hate Ema at AJ, Geez, just stay in Europe, I don't want her, Gumshoe is much better, he deserves it more than her! >:


D: I like ema! but i also like gumshoe

everyone seemed to hate :scientific: but i liked her! D:
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Kamino Neko wrote:
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:whip: Stop it...just...stop it...you're not entertaining...you're not even a good villain like your father was...you're just a whiny little brat.



Franziska is definitely a bit on the bratty side, but I don't think she was intended to be a villain, at least not to the degree her father was.


Yeah, but that's part of my problem with her - she's neither likable, nor evil enough to get a really enjoyable hate on. Manfred was EVIL, and I liked him (or, rather, enjoyed what he brought to the game) for it. Franziska's just obnoxious.

If she gave some sign of being redeemable, like Edgeworth, or 'just doing the job', like Payne, she'd be pitiable, given her history. If she went whole hog and did something on the level of what her old man did, she could be enjoyed as a villain. But, she did neither, so....



Actually, I hated her at first. Rude, bitchy, annoying, bad attitude...by the end of the game , though,I felt like she had redeemed herself, at least somewhat.
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I just hate Ema at AJ, Geez, just stay in Europe, I don't want her, Gumshoe is much better, he deserves it more than her! >:


D: I like ema! but i also like gumshoe

everyone seemed to hate :scientific: but i liked her! D:

I like Ema too, but i don't like she being the detective, Ema's place @ AJ doesnt fits IMO,
I really liked her at the first game.
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considering the amount of character bitching happening in this thread, i'm impressed that everyone has been more-or-less respectful of other people's views. as a new member, i'm highly impressed with these forums (i knew the fans of GS were a good bunch :pearly:). i don't think there are any characters that i actually despise. obviously there are those i like more than others, while i like the villains' characters it doesn't mean i like them as a person, but there are those who annoyed me to an extent...

:sal: - he did amuse me at times, but his speech was hard to read (and i'm not up-to-date on internet-speak, these days...)
:ema: - in 1-5 she really is just a different ver. of maya, and didn't interest me as much. but when :ema: evolves into :scientific: (yay, polkamanz), she's pretty much a different person. some like it, others don't. but i do like my characters with added snark~
:starr: - her comments got a bit annoying, and she was quite bitchy to poor little Phoenix. she has her reasons for being bitter, but... i never really connected with her.
:maggey-sad: - i thought she was cute in 2-1, but i didn't like her attitude in 3-3. what was Gumshoe supposed to do - lie about what he had already testified about in an earlier case? and those cocktail frankfurts looked so good... because of this, i don't really like the idea of Gumshoe/Maggey (though i like her protrayal in that fic 'Piano Man')
:acro: - this guy has some issues, i think. right now i can't remember the particulars of the case, but i remember feeling at the end that his actions weren't called for at all. i imagine he was a good guy before everything went bad for him, but it didn't sit right with me.
:godot: - i can't make up my mind on him. sometimes i think he's the coolest guy EVAR, but other times... the end of 3-5 made my head hurt, and his contribution didn't help. :javado: on the other hand... WELL. while he got a bit antagonising with Mia, you know he did care about her platoniclyorhoweveryouwishhimto~
:ayame: -i know she's meant to be a character of the 'Yamato Nadeshiko' persuasion, but... i can't bring myself to really like her. i certainly don't like the idea of her and Phoenix *after* the revelation that she lied to him, actively helped her sister out (who i do like, the bitch she is~ :that-b-word:), and overall is just... iunno. a bit of a wet blanket - that metaphor isn't used nearly enough these days.
:odoroki: - he's taken me a long time to warm up to, and he does still annoy me in the game at times, much like :kyouya:... but, if they make a 5th GS game, maybe they'll get more character-padding to alleviate me.
:pencil: - he's a bit of a... well, a phallic symbol to me. and other than *lalalalala spoilers, but you know what i'm referring to*, i don't know why he *LALALALA*

... huh, there's no smiley for Zak... well, i'm not particulary fussed. don't care much for him. since it's mostly based on case 4-4, i won't spoil anything, but... yeeaaah. also, that :Temsai: fellow isn't much better. i can at least feel pity for :varanbaran:


tl;dr - eh, don't really hate anyone with a burning passion. they're either cool, hilarious, a "good" bad guy or pitiful.
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Is it just me, or do people misunderstand Ini Mini a little? :P

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After all, it's Mimi PRETENDING to be her sister, and thus has to pretend to be that dense. Seriously, I sympathised - how could she have kept THAT up all the time around people without feeling like an idiot? XD


Oh, and I can't say I hate anybody...the cast of the games worked for me in their respective roles. :godot:

Well, except for :sawit: ...and :redd: , along with :hotti: , :beef: and Brushel!
Ugly and annoying set of Douches who need to be taken behind the barn and cordeally raped by...well... :damon:

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I can't stand :jake: he's really annoying, and he doesn't have a lot of common sense, and he can't get over the death of his brother I mean seriously move on!! >_<
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FenikkusuShiro wrote:
I can't stand :jake: he's really annoying, and he doesn't have a lot of common sense, and he can't get over the death of his brother I mean seriously move on!! >_<


haha...ditto XD i felt the same way >__>;; though i dont reallt hate him hate him.

I also agree with
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Kristoph Gavin

His brother is awesome,but he sucks.


:0 i just kind of dont like him XD i dont even know why X_x;;
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FenikkusuShiro wrote:
I can't stand :jake: he's really annoying, and he doesn't have a lot of common sense, and he can't get over the death of his brother I mean seriously move on!! >_<


It can take years upon years--maybe even never--for someone to get over a loved one's death. Telling them to 'move on' is the most harmful thing you can say to them.
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