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And I never really understood the whole "sickeningly" sweet complaint that sometimes comes up when this couple is mentioned, but perhaps I just have a very high tolerance for sap. Pretty much all couples that I've seen have moments that could be described as "sickeningly sweet" when the romance aspect is at it's height particularly when the love is new even if they wouldn't behave that way under normal circumstances. The "I love you" "I love you more" conversation is something I could conceivably see happening between Phoenix and Iris when they were being silly and flirty, but it doesn't define their relationship. There is so much more to their characters and potential relationship. Their behavior would adapt to the situation just like any other couple. Silliness and seriousness both have their roles in any relationship. What I love about the pairing is that, not only do they still seem to have feelings for one another by the end of 3-5, but they simply fit each other so well. I've thought the pairing through more then once in my head and it just seems to work so well as far as I can tell. It... just fits.
... Am I making any sense? I'm describing my point really poorly tonight. I'm sorry.
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would make a great couple.There's one reason it wouldn't happen though:
EDIT: 7-3-09 LOL looks like i was taking Pearl's attitude too seriously here. Makes me sound like i didn't like the pairing. Of course as you see i've changed
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I've never seen them as being sickeningly sweet, myself. What attracts me to the pairing is the tragedy of it, the irony that they only met each other, only fell for each other, under such terrible circumstances. That things could have ended differently, if only Iris had had the courage to stand up to Dahlia sooner, before she made her move and wound up killing Doug. To me, that IS a flaw in her character, but that only makes her more interesting to me - I don't like perfect characters, and if she were perfect, I'd have no interest in her. Like many others, initially I was suspicious of her. But she won me over even as she intrigued me, and her confession at the end got a big "Awwww!" out of me. That there still seems to be feelings on both sides after all is said and done is very sweet to me - hope springs eternal, after all, and that's very romantic. Not sickeningly sweet, though.
I'm sure they had their share of nauseatingly sweet moments, no doubt. But there also must have been something real enough that feelings would still linger after so many years, even in the face of what the real Dahlia did. There must have been a good reason why Iris would come to love Phoenix despite what she knew she had to do in order to help Dahlia - why she would even consider finally turning against Dahlia and protecting him with her life. Sadly, the game didn't get a chance to show us these moments, but hey, that's where fanfic comes in, right?
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I think and would make a great couple.
There's one reason it wouldn't happen though:
and would make a great couple.There's one reason it wouldn't happen though:
I don't think Nick would give up his girl just because Pearl throws a hissy fit about it.
Besides, the main driving force behind Pearl's insistance on
/ 
is because she thinks of Maya like a big sister and wants a stable family. Since Iris is Pearl's real big sister, I don't see there being any problems that can't be worked out.Bruce: Yes.
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I mean, for jewel case, Iris won't punished because the case was unsolved
But in this case, aren't she punished for it? she was Dahlia's partner in crime after all.
Aah, just remembering "I like it when you constantly had eye on me, but I still feel bad that the little one slap you so hard you got a nose bleed", how sweeeeeeeeeeeet
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Belze wrote:
but was Iris found guilty for assistance Dahlia to poisoning Godot?
I mean, for jewel case, Iris won't punished because the case was unsolved
But in this case, aren't she punished for it? she was Dahlia's partner in crime after all.
I mean, for jewel case, Iris won't punished because the case was unsolved
But in this case, aren't she punished for it? she was Dahlia's partner in crime after all.
Iris didn't assist Dahlia in poisoning Armando. She just tried to get the bottle necklace back so Dahlia wouldn't be found out, and so she wouldn't go off killing someone else to get it back herself.
Should Iris have turned her sister in? Yeah, probably. But she loved Dahlia and pitied her; she was pretty much the only family Dahlia had who gave half a damn about her. Also, she thought that if she got the necklace back, that would be the end of it and Dahlia wouldn't have to hurt or kill anyone else to cover her tracks. Would things have really ended there? Possibly. There's no way to know now.
A lot of people like to say Iris should have just gone to the police from the start, but things weren't that simple.
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Welcome back, superangelo. It's nice to see you around again.
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PhoenixIrisxMaya
Why can't he have 2 at once?
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Tamagon wrote:
You know what pairing is REALLY great.
PhoenixIrisxMaya
Why can't he have 2 at once?
PhoenixIrisxMaya
Why can't he have 2 at once?
Because then, the meaning of, "special someone" means nothing in a threesome? o_O
Besides, IRIS IS HIS ONE AND ONLYYYYYYY
And I think there's a high chance for these two to come back in GS5...................in my mind. @.@ Oh but PLEASE, let it be true!
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I imagined what if there are GS with Iris as defense attorney and Phoenix as victim / suspect. Without lovey dovey scene first (so we won't know what happened between them). maybe it could be fun
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Iris and Phoenix is just adorable but I'm not entirely sure that they could get over the fact that she's A: A Buddhist Nun. B. She has the face of Dahlia Hawthorne. C. The huge amount of lies between them. D. The ever watchful eyes of Pearl the Destroyer.
However, it's definitely a relationship I could get behind.
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I've got to say that I've always felt kind of squicky about Maya and Phoenix. Mostly because she tends to treat Phoenix like her big brother most of the time and he does the same in return. I knew my niece's friends when they were fifteen and I was in my early twenties and the thought of dating one of them just creeps me out even when they crushed on me.
Iris and Phoenix is just adorable but I'm not entirely sure that they could get over the fact that she's A: A Buddhist Nun. B. She has the face of Dahlia Hawthorne. C. The huge amount of lies between them. D. The ever watchful eyes of Pearl the Destroyer.
However, it's definitely a relationship I could get behind.
Iris and Phoenix is just adorable but I'm not entirely sure that they could get over the fact that she's A: A Buddhist Nun. B. She has the face of Dahlia Hawthorne. C. The huge amount of lies between them. D. The ever watchful eyes of Pearl the Destroyer.
However, it's definitely a relationship I could get behind.
=3= ...Hmm. I wonder if most of the NickxMaya fans happened to be the ones who like lovers twice their age.
A: It's not a problem. o.O We talked about it earlier. And it's not the same thing as confining yourself in a monastery and becoming a nun. She's just, more like, Sister Iris and disciple to the Kurain Channeling Technique(I think), not Sister Iris who also has to follow a sacred vow of chastity and stay at the Hazakurain temple forever and ever. Wait, Buddhist??
B: Well, ouch. x.x I don't see that as a problem either. But if Feenie did, then what the hell was he doing giving her goo-goo eyes in the detention center at the ending?
C: Lies don't permanently damage what two people had. Not unless they fix it on their own. And I know they would. It's never too late to patch things up, am I right? =^^=
D: WHA--?! Errr...that is a problem. But Fran pointed it out earlier, and I quote: "The main driving force behind Pearl's insistance on
/ is because she thinks of Maya like a big sister and wants a stable family. Since Iris is Pearl's real big sister, I don't see there being any problems that can't be worked out."
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I doubt they'd totally throw the book at her and she'd probably get a minimum security prison but she's guilty of being an Accessory after the Fact to Dahlia Hawthorne's attempted murder to Godot plus false testimony, tampering with evidence, and perjury in the attempt to protect Godot later on. She might also be serving some time for her minimal role in the faked kidnapping and Grand Larceny case.
But yes, I'd love for Pearls and Iris to meet because they'd probably destroy the game window with their collective sweetness.
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Wait, Buddhist??
Just a general assumption given the kind of Temple they seem to live in. Certainly, it's not a traditional Catholic nunnery. Of course, it's possible that the Kurrain Channeling Technique's mystics pretty much just have their own personal family religion (which is not as uncommon as many people may think).
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I'd say Kurain is buddhist.
I recall them saying something like Ami's related to Buddha in some way, too.
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It might be interesting to speculate that the reason that Iris and Phoenix don't immediately get together after the events of T&T could be the fact that she's probably in jail for probably the better half of ten years.
I doubt they'd totally throw the book at her and she'd probably get a minimum security prison but she's guilty of being an Accessory after the Fact to Dahlia Hawthorne's attempted murder to Godot plus false testimony, tampering with evidence, and perjury in the attempt to protect Godot later on. She might also be serving some time for her minimal role in the faked kidnapping and Grand Larceny case.
But yes, I'd love for Pearls and Iris to meet because they'd probably destroy the game window with their collective sweetness.
Just a general assumption given the kind of Temple they seem to live in. Certainly, it's not a traditional Catholic nunnery. Of course, it's possible that the Kurrain Channeling Technique's mystics pretty much just have their own personal family religion (which is not as uncommon as many people may think).
I doubt they'd totally throw the book at her and she'd probably get a minimum security prison but she's guilty of being an Accessory after the Fact to Dahlia Hawthorne's attempted murder to Godot plus false testimony, tampering with evidence, and perjury in the attempt to protect Godot later on. She might also be serving some time for her minimal role in the faked kidnapping and Grand Larceny case.
But yes, I'd love for Pearls and Iris to meet because they'd probably destroy the game window with their collective sweetness.
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Wait, Buddhist??
Just a general assumption given the kind of Temple they seem to live in. Certainly, it's not a traditional Catholic nunnery. Of course, it's possible that the Kurrain Channeling Technique's mystics pretty much just have their own personal family religion (which is not as uncommon as many people may think).
I'm not sure about ten years. Six months, since Adrian pulled off the same stunt: tampering with evidence I mean, and she got six months just. I'm also not sure about Iris's role in the kidnapping 5 years ago. Recall that she backed out and betrayed her sister in that fashion. Then she double betrayed her out of love for Feenie. And all she did for Dahlia after poisoning Armando was try and get the necklace back from Feenie. Ten years is a little too harsh IMO, and they don't follow the American legal system(the Japanese instead) anyway so you can't really tell. :)
Personaly family religion...hmm. I didn't think they'd be Buddhists since: "All traditions recognize Gautama Buddha as an enlightened teacher who shared his insights in order to help sentient beings end their suffering in accordance with the laws of Karma by understanding the Four Noble Truths; realizing the true nature of phenomena and thereby escaping the cycle of suffering and rebirth known to Buddhists as Samsāra."
But then I could be wrong. =/
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Charles Phipps wrote:
I doubt they'd totally throw the book at her and she'd probably get a minimum security prison but she's guilty of being an Accessory after the Fact to Dahlia Hawthorne's attempted murder to Godot plus false testimony, tampering with evidence, and perjury in the attempt to protect Godot later on. She might also be serving some time for her minimal role in the faked kidnapping and Grand Larceny case.
Being guilty of something doesn't mean anything as far as prison time if you aren't convicted for it. Dahlia killed two people, attempted to kill three others, framed one for murder and later talked him into suicide, and stole her father's diamond, but the only thing she was convicted for was Doug's murder because the other crimes couldn't be proven. If they couldn't get Dahlia for all that, I seriously doubt they're going to go back five to ten years to try nailing Iris.
Also, false testimony? Perjury? Those crimes don't exist in Ace Attorney World.
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Also, false testimony? Perjury? Those crimes don't exist in Ace Attorney World.
Very true. :P
And even if it was factored in, it wouldn't apply to Iris. She never took the stand in her own defense and therefore never lied under oath. I still hold that Iris's sentence would likely range from six months to a year.
You can't really decide things for the game based on what the U.S. legal system would do because, not only is it not based on the U.S. legal system (but Japan's instead), it repeatedly disregards laws that are inconvenient and substitutes them with it's own. Based on Adrian's sentence for crimes that are very similar (and Adrian's sentence would include a charge of perjury if that was factored in unlike with Iris), I can't imagine that Iris does more then a year.
As for being charged for her previous actions, I can't see that happening. As Franzise mentioned, Dahlia was never charged for her other crimes because they couldn't be proven so the same would apply to Iris and besides I think I recall the Judge saying that Iris would have to be held responsible for her involvement in the events of 3-5, but made no mention of anything else. It was the game's wrap up and, had the game designers intended that Iris would be charged for her past actions, I can't see why the Judge wouldn't have made some comment on investigating her past and holding her legally responsible for them as well.
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I think I recall the Judge saying that Iris would have to be held responsible for her involvement in the events of 3-5, but made no mention of anything else. It was the game's wrap up and, had the game designers intended that Iris would be charged for her past actions, I can't see why the Judge wouldn't have made some comment on investigating her past and holding her legally responsible for them as well.
He must have been confused after all the freaky spiritual hubbub happening right under his glorious beard.
But yeah. Now, SIMulated versions of Feenie, Iris and even Trucy! Just as I promised! =D
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THAT IS PURE AWESOME! Seriously, you have the Sims? If you do, why don't you do a little machinema with it?
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THAT IS PURE AWESOME! Seriously, you have the Sims? If you do, why don't you do a little machinema with it?
THAT IS PURE AWESOME! Seriously, you have the Sims? If you do, why don't you do a little machinema with it?
Thanks x]
Machinema? I could try O.O; A little drama and romance with lots of fighting with Edgey too? lol
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Spoiler: The cute. It is good for you. You will have it.
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Anyway, here's the next short fic whilst I waste time :D
Spoiler: So boring but so interesting, what a wonderful world we're in...
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The story is very sweet, Bruce. Nice work. The thematic dance strikes more like a high school thing then a college one to me though, but perhaps that's just because my college rarely held dances. It was a big school and social life revolved more around parties held by students which, at Halloween might have costumes, but rarely had a theme any other time in the year. In contrast, I remember that my high school teachers loved the dances with themes. No idea why. :P
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Those pictures are so cute. :) Cute art makes me happy.
The story is very sweet, Bruce. Nice work. The thematic dance strikes more like a high school thing then a college one to me though, but perhaps that's just because my college rarely held dances. It was a big school and social life revolved more around parties held by students which, at Halloween might have costumes, but rarely had a theme any other time in the year. In contrast, I remember that my high school teachers loved the dances with themes. No idea why. :PI felt bad for Iris in those clothes though. You couldn't pay me to wear a corset. :P
The story is very sweet, Bruce. Nice work. The thematic dance strikes more like a high school thing then a college one to me though, but perhaps that's just because my college rarely held dances. It was a big school and social life revolved more around parties held by students which, at Halloween might have costumes, but rarely had a theme any other time in the year. In contrast, I remember that my high school teachers loved the dances with themes. No idea why. :P
LOL! There's actually a part two but unfortunately for me, I ran out of time before I can properly post the damn thing XD
About the dress Iris is wearing, it's not too bad for her shape and figure. But yeah, it will be a tight squeeze though....
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Spoiler: Does it have mini omelettes?
Again, by this artist
Haha, time paradox backpack.
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LOL! There's actually a part two but unfortunately for me, I ran out of time before I can properly post the damn thing XD
About the dress Iris is wearing, it's not too bad for her shape and figure. But yeah, it will be a tight squeeze though....
About the dress Iris is wearing, it's not too bad for her shape and figure. But yeah, it will be a tight squeeze though....
Corsets are always a tight squeeze. 'Tis the point. :P I would love to read part two if you have time in the future to get it posted. Please.
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So very cute!
Feenie looks happy about his lunch. :) The time paradox amuses me to no end.
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Fran's been finding a bunch of good stuff recently. She showed these bookmarks to me the other day and they are simply beautiful. There are a bunch of them and, while they're all lovely, I'm posting the link for the bookmarks here because one of them has a cute Phoenix/Iris picture. :)
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*dies of cuteness* I love that sketch. :)
Fran's been finding a bunch of good stuff recently. She showed these bookmarks to me the other day and they are simply beautiful. There are a bunch of them and, while they're all lovely, I'm posting the link for the bookmarks here because one of them has a cute Phoenix/Iris picture. :)
Fran's been finding a bunch of good stuff recently. She showed these bookmarks to me the other day and they are simply beautiful. There are a bunch of them and, while they're all lovely, I'm posting the link for the bookmarks here because one of them has a cute Phoenix/Iris picture. :)
=O TAPIOCA!
And who was that guy with Dessie in their panel? Ron? Matt? *fearful shudder*
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Anyway, partially as a bump and partially because I can't remember if this picture got posted previously (and it needs to be here with the rest of the pretty stuff), I come with a picture. :)
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i love that couple! c:
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I wish that there were more.
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