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Lunaria42 wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
P/I may not be canon anymore but Young Phoenix/Iris is definately canon, so don't be so harsh on the P/I fans they've got a pretty justifiable grounds for supporting it, after all it worked before and would've if Miss Dahlia hadn't screwed up everything.
They definitely weren't past canon in my opinion. He didn't know he was dating Iris. He didn't know who she was until five years later. He thought he was dating Dahlia Hawthorne. Technically, if Iris had successfully gotten the necklace from Feenie, Dahlia wouldn't have had to screw things up.
So...your defence is...it's not canon because Iris was using a fake name
For shizzle?Iris tried to get the necklace from Nick but it's not like she could just take it by force, I know Feenie is no action man but Iris ain't exactly Xena neither. Point is the feelings and all that were real and they went out just with a different name. As far as memory serves me he didn't even KNOW about the twin so he dated Iris just under the name Dahlia.
FeeniexIris IS canon
It's confirmed Iris was dating Phoenix, just under a different name, call it Phoenix/Dahlia!Iris if you like but it was still Nick and Iris together in the past.
Though GS4 kinda suggests they grew apart or it didn't work out so quit your whining that pairing is all in the past.
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He WAS dating Iris but thought he was dating Dahlia.
So, he loved Dahlia.
He didn't know Iris existed.
Iris was too much of a pussy to admit to the man she "loved" what was going on.
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But Phoenix was just some annoying brat back then and I forgive him for having a horrible taste in the past <333
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Man, you people are annoying.
I.. I'M SORRY
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Herr Blondie wrote:
FeeniexIris IS canon
It's confirmed Iris was dating Phoenix, just under a different name, call it Phoenix/Dahlia!Iris if you like but it was still Nick and Iris together in the past. Though GS4 kinda suggests they grew apart or it didn't work out so quit your whining that pairing is all in the past.
It's confirmed Iris was dating Phoenix, just under a different name, call it Phoenix/Dahlia!Iris if you like but it was still Nick and Iris together in the past.
Though GS4 kinda suggests they grew apart or it didn't work out so quit your whining that pairing is all in the past.But he thought it was Dahlia. Their whole relationship was based on a huge bag of lies.
It's obvious no one is going to be convinced either way on this issue.
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loobywright wrote:
FFS.
He WAS dating Iris but thought he was dating Dahlia.
So, he loved Dahlia.
He didn't know Iris existed.
Iris was too much of a pussy to admit to the man she "loved" what was going on.
Man, you people are annoying.
He WAS dating Iris but thought he was dating Dahlia.
So, he loved Dahlia.
He didn't know Iris existed.
Iris was too much of a pussy to admit to the man she "loved" what was going on.
Man, you people are annoying.
He loved Dahlia....but it wasn't Dahlia...the girl he fell in love with all the actions and emotions and little things she did were all 100% Iris.
He fell in love with Iris.
Besides if Iris had said her sister was a manipulative evil demon considering how she had dealt with previous people who bothered her she had good reason to fear for her beloved Feenie's life if he was made aware of the scam. If Nick knew about the reason Dahlia chose him, her scam would be up, she'd have to have attempted to kill him earlier than did actually happen since he'd figured her game out thanks to Iris tipping her off.
Iris couldn't tip Nick off, to inform him of the situation would put his life (and possibly her own) in danger.
I'm not saying grown up NickxIris is canon but definately Young NickxIris and it didn't last, whats so annoying about that?
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
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Herr Blondie wrote:
I'm not saying grown up NickxIris is canon but definately Young NickxIris and it didn't last, whats so annoying about that?
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
Well it's statisfying that it didn't last (how should it anyway, it was just based on lies) and Phoenix clearly stated at the end of 3-5 that he doesn't want Iris anymore ;)
And Rotan used laywer!Nick and Iris in his sig so it's NOWHERE canon
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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
I'm not saying grown up NickxIris is canon but definately Young NickxIris and it didn't last, whats so annoying about that?
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
Well it's statisfying that it didn't last (how should it anyway, it was just based on lies) and Phoenix clearly stated at the end of 3-5 that he doesn't want Iris anymore ;)
And Rotan used laywer!Nick and Iris in his sig so it's NOWHERE canon
I'm not trying to argue Lawyer!NickxIris is canon, thats for other folks. I'm simply trying to persuade folks that FeeniexFake!Dahlia (IRIS) is canon
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Herr Blondie wrote:
.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
I'm not saying grown up NickxIris is canon but definately Young NickxIris and it didn't last, whats so annoying about that?
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
See Blinq can admit it's canon!
Well it's statisfying that it didn't last (how should it anyway, it was just based on lies) and Phoenix clearly stated at the end of 3-5 that he doesn't want Iris anymore ;)
And Rotan used laywer!Nick and Iris in his sig so it's NOWHERE canon
I'm not trying to argue Lawyer!NickxIris is canon, thats for other folks. I'm simply trying to persuade folks that FeeniexFake!Dahlia (IRIS) is canon
You might as well forget it Blonde. Neither side is gonna budge. It's just 1 big arguement.
I use lawyer Phoenix in my sigs because to me Phoenix is Phoenix. Doesn't matter if it's young, lawyer, or hobo. Same meaning. I'm starting to see some off topicness in here also.
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Guess what, I like Nick/Iris, but I like Larry/Iris, Larry/Maya, Nick/Maya, Nick/Edgeworth and so on and so forth. And each of these pairings does have some basis in canon! Some more than others, admittedly, but it's not like any of us who ship these are simply drooling fans who are there FOR TEH HOTTNESSS!1!!!111
Also, something else to consider:
We know that Phoenix loves Edgeworth (at least as a friend)
We know that Phoenix loves Maya (at least as a friend)
But we do not know that Phoenix loves Iris (even as a friend) or if he has merely reconciled his past with her. He used to be in love her, but that may no longer be the case.
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Reemokisu wrote:
No offense, Johnny, but I hate the way you argue. (Okay, that is offensive, but I can't think of a way to say it non-offensively). If anyone tries to make a pairing with Iris that's not Nick/Iris, you automatically assume that they're just doing it to clear the way for Maya, Edgeworth, Shoe, etc. and that they couldn't possibly genuinely like that pairing with Iris. You're so defensive about it that it gets annoying.
Guess what, I like Nick/Iris, but I like Larry/Iris, Larry/Maya, Nick/Maya, Nick/Edgeworth and so on and so forth. And each of these pairings does have some basis in canon! Some more than others, admittedly, but it's not like any of us who ship these are simply drooling fans who are there FOR TEH HOTTNESSS!1!!!111
Also, something else to consider:
We know that Phoenix loves Edgeworth (at least as a friend)
We know that Phoenix loves Maya (at least as a friend)
But we do not know that Phoenix loves Iris (even as a friend) or if he has merely reconciled his past with her. He used to be in love her, but that may no longer be the case.
Guess what, I like Nick/Iris, but I like Larry/Iris, Larry/Maya, Nick/Maya, Nick/Edgeworth and so on and so forth. And each of these pairings does have some basis in canon! Some more than others, admittedly, but it's not like any of us who ship these are simply drooling fans who are there FOR TEH HOTTNESSS!1!!!111
Also, something else to consider:
We know that Phoenix loves Edgeworth (at least as a friend)
We know that Phoenix loves Maya (at least as a friend)
But we do not know that Phoenix loves Iris (even as a friend) or if he has merely reconciled his past with her. He used to be in love her, but that may no longer be the case.
If i thought that way then why did i come up with Apollo / Iris and don't have a problem with Edgey / Iris? And Larry / Iris is nothing like those others. And give me a break. I think there was enough evidence at the end of 3-5 that he still loves her (at least as a friend).
It's clear Iris is the most hated character here and so is the pairing. Which does affect more people here than it seems.
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If i thought that way then why did i come up with Apollo / Iris and don't have a problem with Edgey / Iris? And give me a break. I think there was enough evidence at the end of 3-5 that he still loves her (at least as a friend).
It's clear Iris is the most hated character here and so is the pairing. Which does affect more people here than it seems.
It's clear Iris is the most hated character here and so is the pairing. Which does affect more people here than it seems.
Then why do you keep insisting that there's no way at all Larry/Iris could possibly happen when Larry has a canon interest in her, but you're just fine with Apollo/Iris, two characters who haven't even met? And what evidence is there that Phoenix still loves Iris as a friend? He defended her yes, but they hardly had any onscreen time together that game. He said she was the "person he always thought she was" but that doesn't prove that he considers her a friend. And Lawyer Nick is not the same as College Nick. People change, and they are certainly not going to love all of their past boyfriends and girlfriends forever. Nick might, but we have no proof either way. Since you are making the positive claim, the burden is on you.
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Reemokisu wrote:
Johnny Rotan wrote:
If i thought that way then why did i come up with Apollo / Iris and don't have a problem with Edgey / Iris? And give me a break. I think there was enough evidence at the end of 3-5 that he still loves her (at least as a friend).
It's clear Iris is the most hated character here and so is the pairing. Which does affect more people here than it seems.
It's clear Iris is the most hated character here and so is the pairing. Which does affect more people here than it seems.
Then why do you keep insisting that there's no way at all Larry/Iris could possibly happen when Larry has a canon interest in her, but you're just fine with Apollo/Iris, two characters who haven't even met? And what evidence is there that Phoenix still loves Iris as a friend? He defended her yes, but they hardly had any onscreen time together that game. He said she was the "person he always thought she was" but that doesn't prove that he considers her a friend. And Lawyer Nick is not the same as College Nick. People change, and they are certainly not going to love all of their past boyfriends and girlfriends forever. Nick might, but we have no proof either way. Since you are making the positive claim, the burden is on you.
Because that was the pairing up for debate. So i joined in. And i wasn't the only one eiter.
Also A/I is a crack pairing. And E/I is also (with a little possibility). L/I isn't a crack pairing that appeared just like that with no real support (somebody said Jean/Iris was 100% canon when they came up with it).
I don't have time to argue any further or in better detail i've gotta get to work. Be back in 12 1/2 hrs.
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(somebody said Jean/Iris was 100% canon when they came up with it).
I was the one who said it was canon and I was clearly joking you doofus
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Icer...are you trying to get personal with the sig?
LOL *facepalm*
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We don't take Rotan's seriously so don't take icer's seriously.
Seriously.
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But I expect you to take my sig seriously...err...Rotan made it for me, so I guess it's his sig.
Seriously, it's all there is to it. No changing picture or whatnot. You can judge my sig by its cover.
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I'm generally accepting of all pairings. One reason I love this fandom is because everyone is so shippable! =D Now that that's out there...
Th-there are so many PW pairings, so I'm gonna throw out some AJ ones.
As much as I did find KlavierxApollo to be hot/cute/etc, I just don't see it as that good anymore. There is so much of it, the fans are just ugh in some situations, and as much as it might be like Phoenix/Edgeworth it's not. >> I'm getting a bit tired of Phoenix/Edgeworth also. I mean, I still like it but it's not my favorite anymore.
I don't see how one line may make a pairing utterly cannon. I can understand Phoenix/Edgeworth because they had a lot that might be considered something deeper, but Klavier had one line. One line that at first, I didn't even think he was talking to Apollo. I thought he was talking to an officer in the park. [Still kinda do...~] I think it was more of Klavier having fun and being flirty with yet another person. Not anything serious.
Nor do I find Apollo/Vera that cannon. I can why people might, but really. She's such a flat character. People argue over it because he cried for her, but he cried for Trucy too.
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Pairing debate thread, right? Ok, I'll give it a go. >I
I'm generally accepting of all pairings. One reason I love this fandom is because everyone is so shippable! =D Now that that's out there...
Th-there are so many PW pairings, so I'm gonna throw out some AJ ones.
As much as I did find KlavierxApollo to be hot/cute/etc, I just don't see it as that good anymore. There is so much of it, the fans are just ugh in some situations, and as much as it might be like Phoenix/Edgeworth it's not. >> I'm getting a bit tired of Phoenix/Edgeworth also. I mean, I still like it but it's not my favorite anymore.
I don't see how one line may make a pairing utterly cannon. I can understand Phoenix/Edgeworth because they had a lot that might be considered something deeper, but Klavier had one line. One line that at first, I didn't even think he was talking to Apollo. I thought he was talking to an officer in the park. [Still kinda do...~] I think it was more of Klavier having fun and being flirty with yet another person. Not anything serious.
Nor do I find Apollo/Vera that cannon. I can why people might, but really. She's such a flat character. People argue over it because he cried for her, but he cried for Trucy too.
Rawr. Rage.
Sorry, just had to get it out there. You can ignore this if you want. x_X
I'm generally accepting of all pairings. One reason I love this fandom is because everyone is so shippable! =D Now that that's out there...
Th-there are so many PW pairings, so I'm gonna throw out some AJ ones.
As much as I did find KlavierxApollo to be hot/cute/etc, I just don't see it as that good anymore. There is so much of it, the fans are just ugh in some situations, and as much as it might be like Phoenix/Edgeworth it's not. >> I'm getting a bit tired of Phoenix/Edgeworth also. I mean, I still like it but it's not my favorite anymore.
I don't see how one line may make a pairing utterly cannon. I can understand Phoenix/Edgeworth because they had a lot that might be considered something deeper, but Klavier had one line. One line that at first, I didn't even think he was talking to Apollo. I thought he was talking to an officer in the park. [Still kinda do...~] I think it was more of Klavier having fun and being flirty with yet another person. Not anything serious.
Nor do I find Apollo/Vera that cannon. I can why people might, but really. She's such a flat character. People argue over it because he cried for her, but he cried for Trucy too.
Rawr. Rage.
Sorry, just had to get it out there. You can ignore this if you want. x_X
Vera was only flat because she was emotionally broken kinda.
But there's no evidence of any real pairings in AJ nothing concrete anyway.
Sure there's that one line about "I've never felt this way with a man" or something like that for Klavier.
But theres also a line saying that the reason he became a Rockstar was to get pretty girls and have them look his way as he walks down the street.
So I'd say most AJ pairings are unfounded as it is just now, but then again most pairings are more or less unfounded wherever.
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I thought you made pairings because you like the characters? (in that light i have no reason to support
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anymore). Most crack pairings have nothing to debate, because you know there's nothing to support them. L/I is diffrent from that.Reemokisu wrote:
And what evidence is there that Phoenix still loves Iris as a friend?
And what evidence is there Nick is in love with Edgey or Maya? There isn't. Thank god for GS4.
It's still all coming down to "this pairing is better than that pairing because it has more hints or is more canon yada yada yada and all that". I still maintain the "no pairing is better than others" stance. Though no one else seems to share it so i don't bother with it.
That's the best i can do for a post atm. I'm allready half asleep so i need to go to bed.
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But I expect you to take my sig seriously...err...Rotan made it for me, so I guess it's his sig.
But we like laugh- ...
oh well
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You're debasing Iris to the point where she's paired with the most contemptible characters possible. It's not "LOL" as looby puts it, it's justifiable, especially to an Iris fan. So I, as an Iris fan, would like to see some backing for those pairings.
If they're contemptible or not, that's just your personal opinion =P
And we don't need some sort of evidence to ship pairings, since there really is basically none for any pairing
(EXCEPT for the canon ones like Dessie/Ron, Winfred/Plum and Mia/Diego
..not P/I)
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Reemokisu wrote:
And what evidence is there that Phoenix still loves Iris as a friend?
And what evidence is there Nick is in love with Edgey or Maya? There isn't. Thank god for GS4.
You know that there's a big difference between loving someone and BEING IN LOVE with someone do you?
And there's plenty
You might remember that Phoenix became an attorney just because of Edgeworth
They're friends
He even gave Edgey his beloved attorney's badge and asked him to defend his client because he couldn't
He could have lost it if they found out, but he trusted Edgeworth
They trust each other a lot, you can even clearly see that in 2-4 ;)
There is no real evidence for them being in love but they love each other as friends
And OBVIOUSLY Phoenix cares about Maya A LOT
He even referred to her as the most important person in his life (I dunno when exactly though)
And yeah he tried to cross a fuckign burning bridge for her, shattered that channeling chamber's door, defended her in court and believed in her.
He believes in every of his clients but he even gets.. well very unprofessional when Dahlia said Maya was dead, he just did not believe it.
And they made the breakdown sprite in JFA just for the point when he though he has lost the case - and Maya.
There is no proof for them being in love, but Phoenix definitely loves them as friends.
Can't say he showed the same feelings for Iris
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It's still all coming down to "this pairing is better than that pairing because it has more hints or is more canon yada yada yada and all that". I still maintain the "no pairing is better than others" stance. Though no one else seems to share it so i don't bother with it.
Yeah right, the other sig you made said "Some pairing are just MORE TRUE than others" XD
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Reemokisu wrote:
And what evidence is there that Phoenix still loves Iris as a friend?
Besides the "I always believed in you" speech? (Though I'd think that's enough, Phoenix doesn't strike me as the type of guy to be all "Hey, I think you're a good person and all, but I kinda don't want anything more to do with you.")
There's the fact that he went to visit her in detention during the credits (and apparently made eyes at her while he was there). I think that says he at least cares about Iris to some degree; how much is obviously up for interpretation.
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..not P/I
Ah ah ah!
There was at one point remember Fake!Dahlia = Iris.
Oh and Blinq sure we can understand love in that sense...but thats not the kinda love a lot of the fanfics put forward and most of the fans support.
I'm talking about rampant surprise buttsmex and romantic love which unfortunately is supported quite a lot in the P/E and P/M sense.
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Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
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It's nice how you ignored my answer to your question but edited your post because I said something about your sig
I was referring to the FIRST one that started everything
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..not P/I
Ah ah ah!
There was at one point remember Fake!Dahlia = Iris.
I MEAN AFTER 3-1 DAMMIT
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Oh and Blinq sure we can understand love in that sense...but thats not the kinda love a lot of the fanfics put forward and most of the fans support.
I'm talking about rampant surprise buttsmex and romantic love which unfortunately is supported quite a lot in the P/E and P/M sense.
I'm talking about rampant surprise buttsmex and romantic love which unfortunately is supported quite a lot in the P/E and P/M sense.
Well I didn't say that kind of love was canon, just their friendship =P
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Did I say that Phoenix is canonically in love with Edgeworth or Maya? No, I said he loves them in canon, but I would never presume to say that he's in love with either and wants a romantic relatioship. The thing is, though, that it would be next to impossible to argue that Phoenix doesn't love them as friends. With Iris...not so much. Of course, there's a lot of material that's open to interpretation. You can see Phoenix's reaction to her confession as his declaration of [..]
Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
..Didn't I just say that in my pervious posT?
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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Reemokisu wrote:
Did I say that Phoenix is canonically in love with Edgeworth or Maya? No, I said he loves them in canon, but I would never presume to say that he's in love with either and wants a romantic relatioship. The thing is, though, that it would be next to impossible to argue that Phoenix doesn't love them as friends. With Iris...not so much. Of course, there's a lot of material that's open to interpretation. You can see Phoenix's reaction to her confession as his declaration of [..]
Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
..Didn't I just say that in my pervious posT?
Yeah, I know, I just wanted to clarify to Johnny since he was addressing me, sorry.
And concerning Edgeworth and Maya again, we know that Phoenix trusts them, which is important to any relationship, friendship or otherwise.
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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Reemokisu wrote:
Did I say that Phoenix is canonically in love with Edgeworth or Maya? No, I said he loves them in canon, but I would never presume to say that he's in love with either and wants a romantic relatioship. The thing is, though, that it would be next to impossible to argue that Phoenix doesn't love them as friends. With Iris...not so much. Of course, there's a lot of material that's open to interpretation. You can see Phoenix's reaction to her confession as his declaration of [..]
Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
Either way, either interpretation is okay. I firmly believe that P/I is 100% canon in college. But with Lawyer Phoenix...it's up to personal preference really.
..Didn't I just say that in my pervious posT?
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I wouldn't doubt for a minute that they are loving friends but the romantic connections are the ones that are implied when people talk about pairing them together.
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And I'm not talking about "college days"
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But there is nothing romantic between Nick/Iris either
And I'm not talking about "college days"
And I'm not talking about "college days"
True but I'm not arguing that.
That was just so I could prove to looby it was canon AT ONE POINT.
But it's in the past now.
I don't bear the hatred towards Iris some of you do...but I didn't exactly feel they stayed together after GS3, confirmed in AJ1 by her lack of appearence that they grew apart at somepoint.
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That was just so I could prove to looby it was canon AT ONE POINT.
But it's in the past now.
But it's in the past now.
I do admit that it WAS canon, in a sense.
In my head I only see it as yes they were dating, but Nick loved Dahlia, not Iris, and Iris didn't really love Nick.
If she loved him she wouldn't have nearly gotten him killed.
So I don't think that Nick and Iris ever loved eachother.
I can't really get my point across properly.
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You can keep debating P/I now though I think it's at a stalemate.
Here's an interesting pairing to debate, and it's totally canon, Ron/Dessie. Do you think they are boring? Does no one talk about them because it's canonly true that they are married? Do you think their marriage will last forever or will it end is divorce. These are some fun things to speculate about if you want.
To answer my own questions. I do think the pairing can be exciting, but since there is no question about whether or not they are together, not many people explore them in fic. There is art of them and such, but the amounts don't compare to most other Ace Attorney couples. I guess it's more fun in fandom to speculate about possible relationships than it is to speculate about what goes on in actual one.
I see them as the type to stay together forever because they seem to love each other so much. I know Dessie spends money like it's going out of style, but I think, or hope rather, deep down she really loves Ron and if he was honest she would stop spending so much so that their lives would be more stable. But then again, maybe they like the chaos too much. It's been a while since I played T&T, so I don't remember if she found out the truth about his job; and therefore, I don't remember if their was a reaction, what it was.
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loobywright wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
That was just so I could prove to looby it was canon AT ONE POINT.
But it's in the past now.
But it's in the past now.
I do admit that it WAS canon, in a sense.
I have accomplished my mission then.
I'll just be moseying along satisfied now.
Oh, and I reckon Ron and Dessie will do well until Ron gets too old and has trouble pulling off heists.
But the logical solution for this would be that seeing Ron struggle to pay the bills, Dessie would cut back on saving as she loves Ron really and would settle for less.
Besides as she gets older we could hope she gets less extravagant tastes....
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I have accomplished my mission then.
No you haven't, I'd already said before that it was somewhat canon at one time because they had dated so there's no need to get cocky about it
But as I keep saying, they never loved each other.
The only problem I have with this canon bollocks is that there are
Canon doesn't matter in the slightest but why say something is canon when it clearly isn't
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loobywright wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
I have accomplished my mission then.
No you haven't, I'd already said before that it was somewhat canon at one time because they had dated so there's no need to get cocky about it
You argued against it earlier and I don't recall you stating it was somewhat canon, just that he loved Dahlia instead and that meant it didn't count.
Anyway in my opinion canon only counts as a background, so long as fans of other pairings know that it's only their own opinion.
It won't stop initial clashes over pairings but it means the clashes will end quickly when the fan of non-canon pairing admits it's just their opinion and that they know how things really are.
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loobywright wrote:
The only problem I have with this canon bollocks is that there are idiots people who insist that Phoenix/Iris is canon. Which it isn't.
I've seen people say Phoenix/Maya is canon, too. Same goes for Phoenix/Edgeworth.
Contrary to what you seem to think, most of the Phoenix/Iris shippers are well aware that it's not canon and are perfectly fine with that.
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