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root_beer_junkie wrote:
Okay, new pairing... Um, how about Edgewright? I've heard some interesting things...
...a nineteen-page thread and this hasn't come up yet?
Yes, it's all subtext. I openly admit this. It's still my OTP and I can see it working deliciously. But one of the lovely things about this game is the ability to see potential chemistry in multiple directions. It's something for everybody.
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No amount of subtext in the world will make a pairing canon. The only thing that can make a pairing canon is concrete evidence
Well that's the thing nobosy (at least on this thread yet) Is saying it's canon. I really don't think thier's concrete evidence for any of the popular pairings (Besides Deigo/Mia, Ron/Desiree etc) Fan pairings are just what they are, pairings made by fans. The subtext is just the things the fangirls (Like me
) Just like to interpret in thier head. Also their mannerisms and personality towards each other also plays a key part in what the fangirls see.
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...a nineteen-page thread and this hasn't come up yet?
That pairing has come up in this thread. It just keeps reappearing. :P
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Ohh, believe me, I've heard people say Phoenix/Edgey-boy is canon
Lol those are the types of fangirls that have been stereotyped as every yaoi fangirl. The sad part is I know a few people like that <<;
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That pairing has come up in this thread. It just keeps reappearing. :P
That's because it's so darn sexy lol and pretty much one of the most popular pairings in the PW fandom.
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No amount of subtext in the world will make a pairing canon. The only thing that can make a pairing canon is concrete evidence
Well that's the thing nobosy (at least on this thread yet) Is saying it's canon. I really don't think thier's concrete evidence for any of the popular pairings (Besides Deigo/Mia, Ron/Desiree etc) Fan pairings are just what they are, pairings made by fans. The subtext is just the things the fangirls (Like me
) Just like to interpret in thier head. Also their mannerisms and personality towards each other also plays a key part in what the fangirls see.Actually, Gumshoe/Maggye and Winfred/Plum and canon as well.
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Actually, Gumshoe/Maggye and Winfred/Plum and canon as well.
Well I agree with Winfred/Plum but I'm not so sure about Gumshoe/Maggey.
She was pretty mean to him and they made up by the credits but I don't really remember anything saything that she actually started to love him back. Although I could be wrong, I haven't played the third game in awhile
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Ohh, believe me, I've heard people say Phoenix/Edgey-boy is canon. Otherwise, I wouldn't be arguing about it.
I've heard others say it too, but 99% of the time, someone is always right behind to correct them. I would hope everyone got the point by now.
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root_beer_junkie wrote:
Okay... new pairing? How about Viola/Furio? That's kinda canon...
Hmm, I wonder about that...
At first it seems that way, but...
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At first it seems that way, but...
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Don't believe me? Well here's another example. I find the Phoenix/Edgeworth pairing quite boring, because its just so canon. But pair Phoenix with someone odd like Larry or completely opposite of him like Franziska, all of the sudden, the pairing becomes interesting because it breaks what the game would lead you to believe.
That's just what I've noticed. And if that was just not the issue, the pardon my intrusion.
As far as criticism goes, with any game, humans will err it up, and some hold "their pairings" like possessions. And with any possession, one gets insulted if their possession is deemed inadequate.
Its more of a human nature thing really--no big deal, eh?
That's just what I've noticed. And if that was just not the issue, the pardon my intrusion.
As far as criticism goes, with any game, humans will err it up, and some hold "their pairings" like possessions. And with any possession, one gets insulted if their possession is deemed inadequate.
Its more of a human nature thing really--no big deal, eh?
Pheonix/Edgeworth isn't canon..
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The only one I see Ema wanting to be romantic with is Hobo Phoenix, which I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IS GOING TO HAPPEN! Sorry, but Ema just doesn't seem like the romantic type.
And maybe Edgeworth.
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root_beer_junkie wrote:
Okay... new pairing? How about Viola/Furio? That's kinda canon...
I think Tigre saying he hates Viola's guts makes it the exact opposite of canon.
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Croik wrote:
root_beer_junkie wrote:
Okay... new pairing? How about Viola/Furio? That's kinda canon...
I think Tigre saying he hates Viola's guts makes it the exact opposite of canon.
..I don't remember him saying that. And I said it's only kinda canon, since it was all... fake, I guess.
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Okay...new pairing time? How about x ?
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This is how I see Nick/Edgey voters, saying that that is the reason they support it.
Nick: I still remember you from all those years ago... ((Flashback))
Yaoi supporter: Oh ya, they must be in love!!
I just don't see the connections between them...
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As far as Edgeworth pairings go, I'm a die-hard Ema/Miles shipper, but there is one thing I would like to see: an Edgeworth pairing where the other character is not blatantly imposing themselves on him and breaking down his well-made barricades. This is a common aspect of all of Edgeworth's relationships (real, potential, and otherwise), since it is so central to his character. Even those "closest" to him are satellites: he disregards Franziska for the most part; even Gumshoe is a constant annoyance; he fails to return much of Phoenix's TLC; and I'll confess, Ema is too sugar-coated for a serious man like Miles.
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Okay...new pairing time? How about x ?
x ?Spoiler: 3-1, 3-4, 3-5
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and 
.I admit it seems far-fetched, but after thinking about the ending of T&T, I've given these two a lot of thought, and it's actually plausible. However, I find it plausible not in a sparkly, fuzzy, happy, whip-laden escapade of WUV, not at all.
This pairing is possible as one of the most painful and agonizing love stories imaginable. I'll elaborate.
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What about Apollo/Trucy? Jokes about her panties aside I think theyre just friends really (though Trucy is cute).
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Edgeworth x Maya
(this thread is starting to turn into ship manifesto, lol)
Okay. So in GS1, it's pretty obvious that they at least mildly care about each other. At the beginning of 1-4, when Maya and Phoenix go to visit Edgeworth in the detention center, she expresses concern for him, even if he's a rival of her partner. During the trial, just when everything was going to hell, Maya jumped in and grasped around so that Phoenix wouldn't be in contempt of court. Now, she wanted to help Nick, that much is apparent. But she wouldn't have been so desperate if she didn't care about the client. When Phoenix went to check on Maya, Edgeworth told her to watch what she said in court. That's a pretty obvious and lame attempt at keeping himself in character, otherwise he would've looked very strange saying thank you.
So of course, he bails her out. Bail isn't a cheap thing, kids. It's pretty damn expensive. That's more than just a little favor. That's HUGE. He was in no way obligated to do such a thing. He could've let Phoenix post her bail, it would've been no skin off his back.
When Edgeworth disappears
As for anything that isn't concrete evidence (and there's hardly any), we come to the point of their pasts. . In a way, Edgeworth ruined Maya's life, albeit in a small way. If he hadn't thrown the gun, the bullet wouldn't have struck von Karma, and he wouldn't have shot Gregory, and Gregory wouldn't have to be channelled by her mother, and she wouldn't have been disgraced and run away. (run on sentences ftw)
It's a chain reaction thing, but the big picture is that they can really understand each other in a way nobody else can, you know, that mushy stuff. :P
My parents, being the hopeless romantics that they are, have constantly stressed to me (the one who has no luck in love) that lasting relationships are built upon the following: communication, trust, understanding, and humor. Maybe they're not correct in the long run, but I trust them enough since they were married for fifteen years.
It's hard to tell how exactly Maya and Edgeworth communicate, but I think it'd be positive, tying back into the trust thing. It's clear that they can trust each other, as they've got nothing to hide and they're both generally trustworthy people (er, I'll get back to you on Edgeworth). They're both known to hide things, to put on a charade--Maya with her cheerful disposition, and Edgeworth with his cocky attitude--that they think pleases other people. When they're around each other, they don't need to do this. They can just be themselves. They understand how the other party feels. They can identify with each other, even if not necessarily on the surface.
And you can't tell me that their conversations wouldn't be hilarious. They can angst, but they can also be funny. It has the massive potential to be a well rounded relationship if it isn't already is. Of course, I don't expect anybody to support this or take this little essay seriously. It's just my two cents on the matter.
I'm so alone, the Nick/Maya and Nick/Edgeworth fans ate my soul. D:
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Alright, major tl;dr ahead.
Edgeworth x Maya
Edgeworth x Maya
Ah, this one is very cute in theory, but I really don't see it in practice. Still, I do think a higher level friendship than is commonly given credit for is possible or even already happening during the games, sometimes when Edgeworth discusses Maya with Phoenix, it's clear he's had more interaction with her than just the times we see them onscreen.
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At the beginning of 1-4, when Maya and Phoenix go to visit Edgeworth in the detention center, she expresses concern for him, even if he's a rival of her partner. During the trial, just when everything was going to hell, Maya jumped in and grasped around so that Phoenix wouldn't be in contempt of court.
Maya starts supporting Edgeworth because Phoenix has already told her that this is his childhood friend and he wants to help him out. So she's doing it for Phoenix [and also, because she feels sorry for Edgeworth, but we can't really use it as shipping 'evidence' because she's supporting Phoenix's endevour as much as Edgeworth.] Same with the contempt of court. She wants to help Edgeworth, but more because this is Phoenix's career mission rather than just 'affection' for Edgeworth. Edgeworth expresses his thanks in his difficult way, but wouldn't any reasonable person be grateful to someone for saving their life in that manner?
I see definite mutual respect, possibly friendship as canon between them, and I like to think of them colluding together to help Phoenix in the GS4 timeline. You forgot the only other hint I can see to the feasibility of this shipping - in game 1 and maybe the others, I seem to remember Maya seems to be able to assist Edgeworth in expressing his emotions.
Of course, it doesn't help that I can only see Edgeworth as either paired with Phoenix or totally asexual. "C'mon Edgey! You were a guy once."
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icer wrote:
peach_zelda wrote:
i'm gonna have to say...
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my fanfic senses are tingling. or maybe that's just because i read all 35 chapters of koi kaze and immediately thought of trucy and apollo while reading it.
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But yeah, it's really, really hard to ship ANYBODY other than Phoenix with Edgeworth when you've got the fangirls ready to rip you apart. They've...discouraged me many times. D:
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(Witty Name Here) wrote:
Miss Icer, I totally acknowledge and agree with your points. Of course, it takes only a shipper to twist that stuff around. 8D
But yeah, it's really, really hard to ship ANYBODY other than Phoenix with Edgeworth when you've got the fangirls ready to rip you apart. They've...discouraged me many times. D:
But yeah, it's really, really hard to ship ANYBODY other than Phoenix with Edgeworth when you've got the fangirls ready to rip you apart. They've...discouraged me many times. D:
well the problem with edgeworth is that...he's never showed any interest in women whatsoever. almost all the main characters have shown some form of attraction to the opposite sex.
- (iris, maya?, regina, dee vasquez, april may, even thalassa)
- (cindy stone, kiyance, bennifer, katty tom, desiree, iris, franziska, maya, alexis)
- (maximillian galactica, phoenix?) - maggey
- mialike franziska, edgey just doesn't have any "moments" with the opposite sex. (well, maybe count
x or x but even that is a stretch). honestly, if edgey were to be with anybody, i'd say franziska would be the only likely candidate, but since they grew up together as siblings, i highly doubt that's going to happen. my guess is 
set up franny and edgey to become sexual failures.
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icer wrote:
(Witty Name Here) wrote:
Alright, major tl;dr ahead.
peach_zelda wrote:
i'm gonna have to say...
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