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What is the hardest case in PW and JFA?
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Author:  The Lawyer Man [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:36 pm ]
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Rise from the ashes was hard and long.
Spoiler:
This guy :damon: is a monster.
Author:  tinyosi [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:38 pm ]
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You might want to put a spoiler on that since it gives away the real murderer, and I think Farewell My turnabout.
Author:  The Lawyer Man [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:38 pm ]
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When I mean Phoenix Wright I mean the first and second game.
Author:  QBalltheQ [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:57 pm ]
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thelawerman wrote:
When I mean Phoenix Wright I mean the first and second game.

*leaps from shadows*... MORON! FAREWELL MY TURNABOUT WAS IN THE SECOND GAME!!!... *runs* Also, yeah... farewell my turnabout too
Author:  Tajiri Ami [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:58 pm ]
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tinyosi wrote:
since it gives away the real murderer

No, now we know! :redd: Nah, I'm just kidding. Either way, I think both AA and JFA are fair game right now for CR general discussion, though a spoiler alert is always appreciated.

I would say it was the fourth case of JFA... It hit you with all those big scary Psyche-Locks (although one of them wasn't too bad), and required a lot of investigation. To be honest, I'm just now getting started on 1-5, so I don't know its full extent yet...
Author:  The Lawyer Man [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:10 pm ]
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I think I want to change my first comment I now remembered how hard farewell my turnabout was you mess up in one part the game was over so I changed my mind.
Author:  Tajiri Ami [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:15 pm ]
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I got pretty stressed out in the final parts of 2-4... They really poured on the pressure, huh? (A few of those objections were hard to come by...) Well, I think that's what made "Farewell, My Turnabout" such a good case.
Author:  The Lawyer Man [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:33 pm ]
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Yeah pressure was on and I thought I was going to lose my mind. :headbang: I gotta admit I really never thought that protecting a villain was that easy. :gumshoe: I mean it was never easy but I seamed like at one point everything was on my side but then I give it up to continue the trial and I was put in a lot of pressure :nick-sweat:
Author:  Legacy [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:49 pm ]
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OoOoO...Turnabout Goodbyes. The whole thing was intimidating. *nods* I think the night I finished Turnabout Goodbyes I had nightmares...yeah, I did. *shudders*
Author:  HyperSomnia [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:12 am ]
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1-4 and 2-4 were the toughest I think but also the best.
Author:  Szabu [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:57 am ]
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2-3, Turnabout Big Top.

Why? Because it happened a lot of times tat I knew what's wrong with the testimony but it was so not obvious which evidence should be presented.
Also, we already proved who the killer is, but we need to prove a motive also. WTF? Max had no motive also.

Oh, and not to mention the "only-one-chance" part, I thought I can press but no, I could start all over.
Author:  TotalSpaceshipGuy3 [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:00 am ]
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A tie between Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4), Rise From the Ashes (1-5), and Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4).
Author:  Twin [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:52 am ]
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Farewell, My Turnabout, without a doubt. (Heh, rhyme.) DEAR GOD that one was hard. I felt like I was on the knife's edge for the whole bloody thing...getting stumped on every other testimony (ESPECIALLY de Killer's) didn't help much, either.

Rise From the Ashes was pretty tricky, too.
Author:  atari [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:30 am ]
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Definitely Rise From the Ashes for me, although it would be followed closely by Turnabout Big Top. That one wasn't hard per se, I'd just hit a lot of roadblocks.
Author:  Officer 1BDI [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:38 am ]
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I thought 2-3 was the most tedious of all of the cases; it's probably the one case I was most looking forward to completing just to get it over with. In terms of difficulty, though, I thought 1-5 was the hardest, as it was the one case that had me continuously running for a walkthrough (especially for
Spoiler:
that horrible vase that was somehow supposed to magically resemble the Blue Badger. I couldn't position the damn thing right until I finally read exactly how I was supposed to turn it
.)
Author:  GirBot_XD [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:08 am ]
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Well I would have to say that the hardest one "i've" done is 2-4, the fourth case in JFA :acro: :acro: :acro:
Author:  Hiroshi [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:31 pm ]
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1-5 Rise from Ashes all the way. Ms. Starr's testimony took me two days untill I realized that the contradiction is right in front of me. I never thought the person who turned to be the real murderer would be the person I didn't even suspect for a moment. 2-4 Farewell, My Turnabout was pretty difficult (and long), too.
Author:  Trabztress [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:36 pm ]
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Hardest in Difficulty: Rise from the Ashes (1-5)
Hardest to go through without going insane: Turnabout Big Top (2-3)
IT WAS SO ANNOYING! :grey:
Author:  EdgeworthFanGirl [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:41 pm ]
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Rise From The Ashes (1-5) & Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) were the two I had the most difficulty with.
Author:  piccu [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:35 am ]
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That's easy to answer: Definitely Rise from the Ashes, I was totally stuck for more than a week in several subscetions :edgeworth:
Compared to Rise from the Ashes, Farewell, My Turnabout was acceptable.
Author:  QBnoYouko [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:18 am ]
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Isn't it a bit logical that the later cases are always the harder ones? It's kinda like saying which is the easiest case, which is always the first case.
Author:  OMGimsuchafangirl [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:29 am ]
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OOGA BOOGA!!! Me sorry... please excuse me randomness... Cannot help it, I is overtired... Anyways, I tinks that in da firs game Rise from the Ashes was hard. But since that wasn't in the original Japanese version I would say Turnabout Goodbyes. N in the second game yeah I would agree that Farewell, My Turnabout was da hardest.

Excusee me spelling n grammar, me is usually much better but I is being weird today... XD

:shoe: P. S. Shoe rox me sox. :shoe:
Author:  Artemis [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:51 pm ]
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Hardest cases...

2-4 because of all the Psyche Locks and Investigations...

1-5 because of the length and occasional road-blocks...

2-3 and 1-3 because I wanted to go insane.
Author:  Mayhem [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:39 pm ]
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1-5 for sure cos it even made my brain do somersaults trying to figure everything out (took me 10 minutes to work out the contradiction in the video tape section with the locker!). I really, really did feel like metaphorically punching the air and screaming "you're going down you bastard!" when it was finally over!

After that 2-4 is the most emotional... though I'm sure 3-5 is gonna possibly top that...
Author:  Xalrun [ Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:52 am ]
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Rise from the ashes was seriously hard,Tunabout big top was annoying
Spoiler:
because of moe's testimony and that whole getting penalized for pressing him.
Author:  Legends [ Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:03 am ]
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The final episodes, naturally.
Author:  zoe [ Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:54 pm ]
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1-5,2-2 and 2-4.
Rise from the Ashes is soooooo LONG. Lana is... argh! If she tells the truth, it would be a lot easier.

2-2 coz i hate Morgan Fey and a lot of 'like'. They make me feels so desperate. XD

Farewell, My Turnabout.. MATT ENGRADE. I thought he was really innocent! And Adrian. She wouldn't tell the truth. that's make me feel so loooong.
Author:  AngryBaer [ Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:32 pm ]
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General reply: Rise of the ashes, and Farewell my turnabout. I really felt those were the most challenging. I, uh, kind've used GameFAQS..
Author:  CrawdKenny [ Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:07 pm ]
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thelawerman wrote:
Yeah pressure was on and I thought I was going to lose my mind. :headbang: I gotta admit I really never thought that protecting a villain was that easy. :gumshoe: I mean it was never easy but I seamed like at one point everything was on my side but then I give it up to continue the trial and I was put in a lot of pressure :nick-sweat:

Spoiler: T&T
You get a criminal off in 3-2, and he gets off scot free. Not a murderer or "villain" as far as the story goes, but still.
Author:  DefenseNeverRests [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:43 am ]
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Farewell My Turnabout. Hands down. Sometimes if you present the wrong evidence, it's game over. Also...
Spoiler:
For the last part, if you don't pick Shelly de Killer and/or the video tape, then the ending is much different (and much more sad :sadshoe:)
Author:  Beahnahan [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:29 am ]
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id have to go with farewell my turnabout, i was stopped for about 2 weeks about 15 mins into the first trial
Author:  Haruhi [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:38 am ]
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Rise of the Ashes was the hardest one for me.
Author:  Mr. Bear Jew [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:54 am ]
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Farewell, My Turnabout, no contest. I got stuck on Oldbag's second testimony for one or two days then failed to present the "something odd" in the picture of the Nickel Samurai leaving Juan's room three times in a row, prompting me to use a GFAQs guide. Then there was Adrian's testimony and trying to prove what was inside of the guitar - from which I lost half my life bar - and was stuck for nearly half a week on Adrian's third testimony where she said the button was torn off of Juan's costume during the fight with Matt. I knew where the contradiction was but I was always present the wrong evidence. STUPID AUTOPSY REPORT GRRR *foam @ mouth* Somehow I presented the contradiction on her fourth testimony through absolute blind luck.

Then after the trial I was stuck on Matt's Psyche-Lock for a day or two and kept restarting my game to make sure that I didn't miss out on any evidence. It never occured to me that I should present De Killer's card on the third lock.

On the final trial day I got stuck on the part where you have to present the evidence that Edgeworth should have looked into more closely (handwriting never occured to me), got stuck on De Killer's first and third testimonies, and would have lost the game had I not resorted to a GFAQs guide for which piece of evidence to show which person.

Yup, that was a rough one. All-in-all, it took me close to a week and-a-half to beat the case bringing the time it took me to beat JFA to approximately one month.

I didn't have much trouble with Rise from the Ashes. There were a few road blocks here and there (e.g. Ema's testimony about the fight between Darke and Neil and the broken knife, Angel Starr's testimony (ALL OF IT), and presenting the piece of cloth when Gant wanted me to. Not nearly as mind-boggling as Farewell, My Turnabout.

Also, there was much more at stake in 2-4 than 1-5 since Phoenix is under so much pressure and under fire from just about every side (the gallery, the prosecution, Matt, De Killer, the judge, etc.) that he has to resort to dirty methods he despises in pursuit of the truth, thus making it a life altering experience for him. 1-5 was more like a standard, "O NOES INNOCENT PERSON MUST SAVE", case. Gant was the only highlight of that case.
Author:  dotsdfe [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:01 am ]
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PW1: Rise from the Ashes
PW2: Farewell, my Turnabout

In the whole series, though, Bridge to the Turnabout.
Author:  Dr. E. Coli [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:02 am ]
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1-5 and 2-4, but I was more "into" 2-4, so to speak, so I consider 1-5 the hardest.

The DS-utilizing was sort of fun but it was more gimmicky and annoying in the end :< (stupid vase)
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