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Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed May 27, 2015 6:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Somehow I think it's a shame to "fix" such a gem. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Playing through the trilogy when I find this: For reference, the original line was, "Don't "oops" me! Or I'll be the one throwing my shoe next!" The rest of the case also had quite a bit changed, though I'll probably get to that later. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
When you find the time, please do. This is a beautiful cycle we have witnessed. There were plenty of translation errors or inaccuracies in the original English script. The Japanese script, meanwhile, had already been corrected by the DS release. There were a few mistaken words & name tags from the GBA ver., apparently. hoso_boso's walkthrough & guide page has records on them. Would anyone be interested in seeing them? I can share translations here, since it's sort of relevant. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Eh, might as well do the rest. This is all I can remember off the top of my head. I probably missed a few. Spoiler: 1-5 |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
"Chihiro" can be written with many different kanji, so it can be a male name, but a great majority of them are female. I actually preferred the original line there since I like silly Ema and the name "Mia" is almost exclusively female, unless it's a name that's spelled the same but is from a different language. I'm not sure if I should include any of these examples as notes for my blog project, but there are a few in there that are noticeable changes (like Phoenix's comment to Edgeworth about being a prosecutor). |
Author: | Nurio [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Slightly off topic, but am I the only one who never liked the "Boot to the head" video? Seeing it made 'canon' now is just odd to me |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Forgot these, same case, Day 1 Trial Former: Edgeworth: Objection. Phoenix: Phoenix: Let's be a little more careful with our evidence, shall we? Edgeworth: It is you that needs to be more careful, Mr. Wright! Edgeworth: Objection. Phoenix: That had to be the weakest "objection" ever, Edgeworth. Edgeworth: Yet it was still stronger than your ever feeble mind, Mr. Wright. Edgey giving out them sick burns. Ema: Note to self: Attorney Wright gets bitten by snake. Ema: Note to self: Mr. Wright is weak against poisonous snake bites. Who isn't? Aside from steel-types? Angel: She gave up trying to use the phone on the wall and just used her cell phone! Angel: I saw it all -- how she tried the phone on the wall but had to use her cell instead. Guess they wanted to make the contradiction more obvious. Ema: Actually, if you combine all the various blood tests, there are millions of types! Ema: It's practically impossible to narrow a blood sample down to one person! Ema: Or so I hear. Phoenix: M-millions of types? Ema: Actually we can differentiate between millions of types with all blood test out there. Ema: Which means that we can more or less narrow any sample of blood down to just one person. Ema: Or so I hear. Phoenix: Th-that's pretty specific... The same info with the exact opposite meaning. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Fri May 13, 2016 2:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
I've started up a compilation of the most notable changes and will be updating the list as more are added here. I'm boosting this thread, so it's not gonna be forgotten amid all the AA6/SoJ Because I don't have copies of the revised versions, everyone, please help contribute to this thread. My list feels very incomplete as it is now. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Sat May 14, 2016 10:26 am ] |
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Quote: Judge: Hmm... then I must be hard, yellowed, and sharp as a tack. Judge: Yeah, with the odor of an old cheese to match. And I just realized my mistake now. It's still Ema saying the second line. I must have thought the Judge had dissociative identity disorder. Rubia, you might want to fix that on your blog as well. EDIT: Another mistake. Quote: Ema: Actually we can differentiate between millions of types with all blood test out there. "Actually we can differentiate between millions of types with all the blood tests out there." And another change I found from the first trial day. Phoenix: (I haven't been in court since Edgeworth's trial... It's been a while now.) Phoenix: (It's been two months, but I haven't been in a courtroom since his trial...) |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Wed May 25, 2016 5:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that they changed the conversation Nick and Maya have in the Ringmaster's Room about "what about our guilty clients?" In 1-5, they also changed quite a bit of Gant's dialogue after he's caught. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed May 25, 2016 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Do you have the actual lines of dialogue? I could add these to my compilation. What's been changed with Gant's lines? |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Wed May 25, 2016 7:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Just checked. Quite a lot was changed, actually. Spoiler: a whole lotta text |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed May 25, 2016 11:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Thanks again! I've updated my list. Quote: Goodman: It's not too late. I'm going to hand all over to Marshall! Is it me, or does this line sound a bit strange? I suppose saying "hand all over" is grammatically correct, but I feel a "this" would neatly fit in there. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Thu May 26, 2016 12:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: Thanks again! I've updated my list. Quote: Goodman: It's not too late. I'm going to hand all over to Marshall! Is it me, or does this line sound a bit strange? I suppose saying "hand all over" is grammatically correct, but I feel a "this" would neatly fit in there. Checked again. It is "hand all this over to Marshall!" That was just me screwing up the simple process of directly copying text. Some other changes in the first part of the final trial day. Judge: Who'd have thought the picture would have been drawn on the back of the list... Ema: That was handed to Detective Goodman in the questioning room? Judge: But Ms. Skye, why did you draw your picture on the back of such an important list...? Ema: Because that's what Detective Goodman handed to me in the questioning room, Your Honor. Edgeworth: This is that... thing! Edgeworth: It's that... that... thing! Ema: all I could think was, "I've got to help Mr. Marshall!" Ema: all I could think was, "I've gotta help that other person!" EDIT: Last one for now, I promise. Edgeworth: In a matter of just a few seconds Ms. Skye was almost killed, then she witnessed a Edgeworth: murder about to take place. A little disorientation is only natural. Edgeworth: Ms. Skye was almost killed before she was witness to a murder about to take place. Edgeworth: With so much happening in only a matter of seconds, a little disorientation is only natural. Even Edgeworth must bow down to the almighty glory of the text box character limit. |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Fri May 27, 2016 3:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Here are a couple other things that they changed: - The first time you go to the Police Dept. Entrance in 1-5, Phoenix now mentions that he's "only ever been to Criminal Affairs next door". - In the third day of 1-5, it's clearly stated many times that at the time SL-9 happened, Gant was Deputy Chief of Police. The original game called him various things; Detective, Vice Head of Criminal Affairs, etc. - After the first trial day in 1-4 ends, Phoenix has a changed monologue where he says something like "would it kill you just to say thanks, Edgeworth?" - In 2-4, right before the whole "show de Killer the tape" part, Mia says "there is one person who hasn't seen all the evidence". In the DS version, she said "there are people who haven't seen all the evidence". - Some evidence names were changed. The Victim's Note is now "Goodman's Note", and the Strip of Cloth is now "Piece of Cloth". - I THINK Frank Sahwit's age is now 44, not 36. If you're looking for even more revisions, try checking out MegamanNG's videos and comparing those to the DS versions. |
Author: | Turnabout Dave [ Fri May 27, 2016 4:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Upgrader01 wrote: - I THINK Frank Sahwit's age is now 44, not 36. You are correct. Sahwit's age was changed to be consistent with his given age in GK2 (47). |
Author: | Trialman [ Fri May 27, 2016 6:27 am ] |
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Turnabout Dave wrote: Upgrader01 wrote: - I THINK Frank Sahwit's age is now 44, not 36. You are correct. Sahwit's age was changed to be consistent with his given age in GK2 (47). Was there ever a given reason for randomly getting an age lift? |
Author: | Ash [ Fri May 27, 2016 9:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
The Japanese DS script has 44 as his age, actually, so that would be a correction. At least, it's definitely 44 in the Complete Script book of the first game released in 2012, haven't double-checked with the game itself. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Fri May 27, 2016 8:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Welp, I found out where the "36" came from. It was like that in the original GBA, and I suppose they didn't correct it until the DS release. ...Also, this case flies by a lot faster than I remember. The speed of Japanese text games... |
Author: | Gerkuman [ Fri May 27, 2016 10:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
I managed to use MegamanNG's videos to find the change that fixed RFTA's place in canon. Spoiler: 2-3 |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Sat May 28, 2016 1:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Gerkuman wrote: I managed to use MegamanNG's videos to find the change that fixed RFTA's place in canon. Spoiler: 2-3 That one line is the most noticeable change, but a few other lines in the entire conversation with Franziska were changed. Also, the ending scene of 2-3 (the one with Edgeworth talking to Gumshoe) also had a couple changes, if I remember correctly. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Sat May 28, 2016 4:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Guys, I'd appreciate if you could gather the lines themselves, rather than just state what was changed. I'd better distinguish the reasoning behind the change. ...aside from the lines for the sake of retcon, of course. |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Sat May 28, 2016 10:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Spoiler: 1-4 Spoiler: 1-5 Spoiler: 2-1 Spoiler: 2-2 Spoiler: 2-3 Spoiler: 2-4 |
Author: | Trialman [ Sun May 29, 2016 10:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
I just remembered, I think there was a dialogue change in the Classroom Trial flashback. The part where a kid yells, "Give me my money back!" is now "Give the money back!", if I remember right. Obviously because jumps to Nick's defence, so it wouldn't make sense for him to be against Nick. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Okay, I swear this is the last time for 1-5. Spoiler: long ass-post |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Quote: Edgeworth: That day, there were two people present during Darke's questioning: Deputy Chief Damn Gant, and Prosecutor Neil Marshall. Such bitterness, Edgeworth! Must have been due to the resignation business. He was done with prosecuting. (I noticed the typo while I was editing my list, so no worries here.) |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
I just edited my previous post with more corrections I found. I might do that again later if I find more. |
Author: | Trialman [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:51 am ] |
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I was just playing through 3-3 on the Trilogy, and I noticed that they removed the jab at the infamous 2-4 typo. In the original game, Phoenix refers to Elg's lottery win as a miracle, "The kind people like Mr. Tigre like to say never happen.", referencing the classic error. In the Trilogy, it's now "The kind that Mr. Tigre would prefer to say never happened." |
Author: | MBr [ Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:43 pm ] |
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I never noticed that in the original English translation! |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: AAT Dialogue Change Thread |
Trialman wrote: I was just playing through 3-3 on the Trilogy, and I noticed that they removed the jab at the infamous 2-4 typo. In the original game, Phoenix refers to Elg's lottery win as a miracle, "The kind people like Mr. Tigre like to say never happen.", referencing the classic error. In the Trilogy, it's now "The kind that Mr. Tigre would prefer to say never happened." Umm.. no. (8:03 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXV3ERTWkAs) On other news, here's a few more corrections from 1-5! Gant: Ah hah! An honest-to-goodness what do you mean from the judge! This is great! Gant: Ah hah! An honest-to-goodness "what do you mean" from Udgey! This is great! Phoenix: The murder was most likely committed in the spur of the moment. No one in their right Phoenix: mind would choose the Police Department as a place to commit murder. Phoenix: The murder was most likely a spur of the moment crime, for no one in their right mind Phoenix: would choose the Police Department as a place to commit murder. Judge: What!? That means you... the Chief of Police... Judge: concealing evidence! Judge: What!? That means you... the Chief of Police... Judge: have been concealing evidence! Also, the description for Goodman's Lost Item Report was updated. "A half-written document dated 2/21. Can only be submitted to the Chief of Police." |
Author: | Trialman [ Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:25 am ] |
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Upgrader01 wrote: Trialman wrote: I was just playing through 3-3 on the Trilogy, and I noticed that they removed the jab at the infamous 2-4 typo. In the original game, Phoenix refers to Elg's lottery win as a miracle, "The kind people like Mr. Tigre like to say never happen.", referencing the classic error. In the Trilogy, it's now "The kind that Mr. Tigre would prefer to say never happened." Umm.. no. (8:03 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXV3ERTWkAs) Huh, that will teach me not to rely on the wiki. |
Author: | Kevin Ace Attorney [ Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:27 pm ] |
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I never noticed some of the changes! Thanks for posting these! They were interesting to read. |
Author: | Trialman [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:29 pm ] |
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I was playing through 3-5, and I noticed that 'Laurice' never refers to his book as 'Franzy's Whip Lash Splash', and instead, to make it consistent to AAI, he refers to it as 'Whippy Whip Trip'. Also, it might be just me, but the burnt letter looks a bit different. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:59 pm ] |
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I knew that name changed by AAI, even though the Japanese version kept it consistent. I thought it was catchier before and so it's how I call it. But I suppose "Whippy Whip Trip" sounds a bit closer to the source. Either way it loses the untranslatable pun, so it doesn't really matter. |
Author: | Upgrader01 [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:34 am ] |
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Here are some more corrections: Spoiler: 1-4 Spoiler: 1-5 Spoiler: 2-1 Spoiler: 2-2 Spoiler: 2-3 Spoiler: 2-4 I'm only including the more noticeable changes. Small things like extra commas and capitalization aren't included. Holy crap, Turnabout Big Top had a lot of errors and missing commas. EDIT: Another change from "Rise from the Ashes" that didn't really fit in the spoiler box: Whenever you go to Criminal Affairs in the DS version of the first game, the green-text box says: [Date] Police Department Criminal Affairs But now in the 3DS version of this case*, it says: [Date] Police Station Criminal Affairs Dept. They're making it clear that the place Gumshoe and the Chief of Detectives work, and the building where Gant's office is, are two different places. *For some reason, they made this correction only in 1-5. The green text in 1-4 is still in it's incorrect DS version. (The text of the Records Room is also wrong by the way. It should say Police Station.) Note: The green text that appears when you go to Criminal Affairs in 2-4 and 3-3 is the same that the one in the 3DS version of 1-5. Guess they wanted to make the text consistent. Note #2: To the guy running the "GSvsAA" tumblr blog, be sure to check all of my previous posts in this thread for all the corrections I've found. Any new corrections will be on a new post. |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:24 pm ] |
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So, yeah, I updated my blog with compilations of this stuff today and I'd really be grateful if people were still contributing to this thread for T&T stuff. It doesn't feel right as a two-parter. Thanks. :3c |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:38 am ] |
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The very definitely absolute final time for 1-5. Sorry. Spoiler: final day |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:08 am ] |
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Quick question: Are this Quote: Phoenix: he would have had to have been Neil Marshall, wielding the King of Prosecutor's Trophy and this Quote: Edgeworth: You must know the two rule of evidence law! both new typos? Thanks. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:36 am ] |
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Maybe next time I should try not to type all this up at midnight. No they're not. Looking at it again, it was: Quote: Phoenix: he would had to have been Neil Marshall, wielding the King of Prosecutors Trophy. and Quote: Edgeworth: You must know the two rules of evidence law! EDIT: And again. Quote: Gant: Here's a tip: never gamble what you can't afford to lose, Wrighto.
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Author: | Upgrader01 [ Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:47 pm ] |
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Spoiler: 1-4 Spoiler: 3-2 Spoiler: 3-3 Spoiler: 3-5 |
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