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Author:  ShyTenda [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:33 pm ]
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If :chef: is gay, why does he only hire hot girls as waitresses?
Author:  axl99 [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:34 pm ]
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Because gay guys alone can't drag in horny old geezers for 8 dollar cups of coffee? It's a marketing ploy.

[Besides... Who says that you can't hire people of the opposite sex just because you're gay?]
Author:  Elriel [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:09 pm ]
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Well, I'm sure Armstrong is gay. I mean, he considers himself a girl and flirts with Phoenix and Godot :chef:.
Author:  I_R_Unorthodox [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:15 pm ]
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Tinker wrote:

I've been translating one of Plato's texts in Greek lessons lately, and it's about homosexual/heterosexual people, and how they came to be, and what the Greek thought of them.
In Ancient Greek culture, woman/woman was the worst thing, man/woman was only done to get children, and man/man was by far the best thing to have. This is most likely because back then the women just stayed at home, weren't educated, and were overall just plain boring. They really praised homosexual men.
But when the Romans invaded, this all disappeared. They didn't really like it.


To be picky, no one actually cared. The problem was if you were caught. lol.

I think greek culture was the main reason the phrase "what you don't know can't hurt you" came about...

And on a side note, condoms were leather or pig skin. (PAIN)

...

Is it a problem I'm learning all this in drama class? XD (Well we ARE studying Antigone)

ON TOPIC: Jibo, as awesome as you are having known ya 2 (?) years. I think your really grasping for a topic here. I mean, for chissake, LARRY!? You have a better chance of Toast growing wings and being eaten by dodo's.

EDIT:
ShyTenda wrote:
If :chef: is gay, why does he only hire hot girls as waitresses?


Because he scares away all the men maybe?
Author:  Rebel Vanguard [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:25 pm ]
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No I never noticed.

Probably because I can never tell a gay parson from a straight person unless it that obvious.
Author:  KingMobUK [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:46 pm ]
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There are certainly a lot of camp characters, but as a Brit I am not used to that necessarily equalling gay.
Author:  LuigiHann [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:15 pm ]
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Jibo wrote:
musouka wrote:
No Edgeworth?
I almost put him in but the amount of Objections would be huge. Tea set and frilly cravat.... THAT'S not sugggestive...


He's BRITISH! :edgeworth:
Author:  Turbo [ Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:57 pm ]
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ShyTenda wrote:
If :chef: is gay, why does he only hire hot girls as waitresses?


Because he probably thinks he can relate to them and their girl problems or something.
Author:  Dr. E. Coli [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:13 am ]
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I enjoy campy characters. I love camp in general, I have an OC myself who's campy XD

But to assume such qualities makes them automatically homosexual...um, no.

I'm really indifferent to pairings, so I don't really dig that deep, anyway. I like to leave that topic to the creators, even if the creators don't do anything about it.

I don't really believe any PW character to be homosexual anyway, save for Armstrong. XD

Adrian....maybe. It's believable. But that's kind of it with me.

Redd is so totally a narcissist. If he was gay, he'd probably have a naked statue of some other men, not himself.

And Max is hilarious for being incredibly campy but yet oh so straight. It's great.
Author:  The Aspernator [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:18 am ]
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The campy characters are always my top favorites. I don't really care about their sexuality in canon, because I usually wind up creating crack yaoi pairings for every series I enjoy.
Author:  Kirie [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:23 am ]
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Though I don't necessarily agree with the statement, it's neat to see everyone's different opinions on the characters and their relationships. :garyuu:

The awesome thing about the PW games is that there is really no wrong (Well.. maybe some are a bit disturbing..)/right pairings. They leave it up to the players to decide in their own minds. Which to me is better than forcing it like most games do. :will:
Author:  KingMobUK [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:26 am ]
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LuigiHann wrote:
He's BRITISH! :edgeworth:


Actually, localised, he's American, but lived in Germany for a long time.

He does come off as if he may have spent some time in the English private school system though, I'll give you that.
Author:  LForLotta [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:12 am ]
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Oh c'mon guys! :meekins:
The only character in pw who is 100% absolutely gay is :chef: , but, i have to agree that
:adrian: looks a little bit lesbian, but just because she hates men...
She tends to generalize too much...?
At the end of pw2 , some of her BFF are males, and in pw3 there's no proof who can suggest
that :glasses: is lesbian.

ABout :edgeworth: , why he's gay?
Frilly looking guys are all gays!!!!WHEEEEEEEEE!!!!11111111
In the 2nd and 3rd game was just a normal, pompous Marty stu.
I didn't saw anything really "OMFG BUT THEY'RE LUVARZ?!NO WAI!!11", just some big ol'
friendship.
Maybe it's because i don't like :edgeworth: , so yeah, :phoenix: / :edgy: fans, i'm sorry :maggy:

:franny: can't be lesbian just because she tried to be friendly with :adrian: at the end of pw2!
FROM THIS POINT OF VIEW, I'M LESBIAN FOR SAMI-FIRE AND GARLAR!
And I'm not.
Friendship isn't love, of course, but, if you like to see them together, it's all ok :that-b-word:
Fandom has no rules!FANDOM IS FREE! :will:

AT THE END:
Think whatever ya want pal, but, please, no pairing wars!PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE! :grey:
Author:  Guess_Who [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:19 am ]
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PROTIP: If you stick two male characters in a video game, there WILL be gay porn of it.

This is especially true of Japanese games.
Author:  Aetheryn [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:28 am ]
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My response to this thread: So?
Author:  illuminise [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:12 pm ]
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Guess_Who wrote:
PROTIP: If you stick two male characters in a video game, there WILL be gay porn of it.

This is especially true of Japanese games.


QFT.
Author:  IZSBHR [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:48 pm ]
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Android 21 3/7 wrote:
yeah, but Max is open about it.


He's not a pedo. In Japan, you're no longer a minor at 16.
Author:  KingMobUK [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:16 pm ]
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Nor in the UK/Europe as far as I know.
Author:  Ulala [ Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:19 pm ]
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ShyTenda wrote:
If :chef: is gay, why does he only hire hot girls as waitresses?

Because only girls can be waitresses?
Author:  illuminise [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:07 pm ]
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IZSBHR wrote:
Android 21 3/7 wrote:
yeah, but Max is open about it.


He's not a pedo. In Japan, you're no longer a minor at 16.

Isn't the age of majority 20? Though I'm not sure about sex laws, I know that's the limit for smoking and drinking (fangirling Antic Cafe is educational, yo.)

RE Armstrong: The girls are his girlfriiiiiiiends. Or his fag hags. *shot*
Author:  KingMobUK [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:30 pm ]
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Actually I think it may even be 13 in Japan for het sex (not sure about other sex), but I may be misremembering.

In the UK it's 16 across the board but it's taken a while for homosexual men to achieve that as we're a bit backward sometimes.
Author:  Officer 1BDI [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:52 pm ]
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Elriel wrote:
Well, I'm sure Armstrong is gay. I mean, he considers himself a girl and flirts with Phoenix and Godot :chef:.


I haven't played T&T yet, but if he considers himself a girl, wouldn't that make him a heterosexual transsexual, or am I completely missing the mark? :eh?:

I don't want to argue about who is and isn't homosexual because my opinions on the matter are just that: opinions. I know 95% of my pairings aren't canon, that not everyone supports them, and I'm not in the mindset right now to argue over hints that can be interpreted in any number of ways.

And, really, Attorney Hatman already said it best:

Attorney Hatman wrote:
Besides, this is Capcom we're talking about.
Author:  KingMobUK [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:06 pm ]
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Officer 1BDI wrote:
if he considers himself a girl, wouldn't that make him a heterosexual transsexual, or am I completely missing the mark? :eh?:


Mmmm, well you're confusing gender and sexuality - the two are seperate issues. Transgendered men aren't always attracted to other men, but sometimes they are. <shrug>
Author:  Croik [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:17 pm ]
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KingMobUK wrote:
Actually I think it may even be 13 in Japan for het sex (not sure about other sex), but I may be misremembering.

In the UK it's 16 across the board but it's taken a while for homosexual men to achieve that as we're a bit backward sometimes.


I'm pretty sure that age of consent in Japan varies depending on the province you're in. Some have it set higher than others.
Author:  KingMobUK [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:41 pm ]
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Well I am sure I got the info from some documentary on TV so I was shaky on whether I was correct or not (bad memory plus not trusting telly 100%). I'd be surprised if it's more than 16 though I must say.
Author:  Officer 1BDI [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:52 pm ]
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KingMobUK wrote:
Mmmm, well you're confusing gender and sexuality - the two are seperate issues. Transgendered men aren't always attracted to other men, but sometimes they are. <shrug>


I'm aware of that, but I wasn't sure how to word my question (and I guess I didn't word that very well in my other post; sorry :sadshoe: ). I meant: if Armstrong considers himself (herself?) a woman and is attracted to men, would s/he still be considered gay since s/he is attracted to what s/he preceive to be the opposite gender?

Maybe I should just drop the question altogether; I haven't even played the ruddy game yet.... :payne:
Author:  KingMobUK [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:11 pm ]
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I think s/he could consider herself anything s/he wanted to as far as I'm concerned :)

In the game Armstrong is pretty camp though :)
Author:  StormyMei [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:15 pm ]
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ShyTenda wrote:
If :chef: is gay, why does he only hire hot girls as waitresses?


Because the hot girls lure in the hot guys, who he can then chat up. Cunning, eh? :chef:
He's actually one of the only characters who pretty much admits to being gay, without actually saying the words.
Author:  The Aspernator [ Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:35 pm ]
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StormyMei wrote:
ShyTenda wrote:
If :chef: is gay, why does he only hire hot girls as waitresses?


Because the hot girls lure in the hot guys, who he can then chat up. Cunning, eh? :chef:
He's actually one of the only characters who pretty much admits to being gay, without actually saying the words.


I can't really imagine him being straight, personally.
Author:  Manfred von Karma [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:02 am ]
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Jibo wrote:
Phoenix said it was and it looked a lot like him. Gay is liking the same gender as yourself and having something NAKED that's of yourself is gay. :hobohodo:

Actually that's narcisistic. And even then, it's in the realm of art. Was Michaelangelo gay because he made the statue of David naked?

About Max:
There was something very off about his calling Phoenix "sweetie" but I wouldn't call him gay.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gant yet. He's an eccentric elderly batchelor, who wants to go swimming with other men, whom he gives cute nicknames to.
Author:  The Aspernator [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:08 am ]
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Manfred von Karma wrote:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gant yet. He's an eccentric elderly batchelor, who wants to go swimming with other men, whom he gives cute nicknames to.


OMG! I never thought of it that way before... But you're right. No objections from me. :gant:
Author:  ParrotMan01 [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:13 am ]
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Wow so many opinions, yet I bet the writers and the artists never thought of any of this.
Author:  grim_tales [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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I don't really believe :edgeworth: is gay, but is it implied with his effeminate clothes etc?
I always thought it was impled :pshhh: (Max?) was gay, he's certainly really camp.
Author:  Croik [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:59 pm ]
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Manfred von Karma wrote:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gant yet. He's an eccentric elderly batchelor, who wants to go swimming with other men, whom he gives cute nicknames to.


Well, he IS based off Zeus. You know how those Greeks were about young, naked boys... :gant:
Author:  Chinese Infantry [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:08 pm ]
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Gant....

Cmon, Gant would pretty much fuck anything that moves. If it has a hole, he's sticking his penis in it. It's like what Chris Pontius said about party boy...

"Does Gant prefer men or women? He doesn't care. If a bear's hungry, he'll eat"

Of course, children take priority...
Author:  KingMobUK [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:12 pm ]
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grim_tales wrote:
I don't really believe :edgeworth: is gay, but is it implied with his effeminate clothes etc?
I always thought it was impled :pshhh: (Max?) was gay, he's certainly really camp.


LOL at the notion that Edgeworth's clothes are effeminate. Unless you're suggesting Von Karma is effeminate as well? As far as the game goes I don't really find his court outfit remotely effeminate if I am honest - it's just old fashioned.

Max is as camp as a row of tents. But he loves Regina in a marriage kind of way so is at the very least bisexual and probably het.
Author:  grim_tales [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:24 pm ]
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Perhaps old fashioned is better.
You're probably right about Max.
Author:  Jibo [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:56 pm ]
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Wow people still post here? I may as well change the first post for PW3 characters then.
Author:  grim_tales [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:36 am ]
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Fair enough KingMob - of course, I should know one mustn't always equate campness with homosexuality (look at PC Goody in the sitcom "The Thin Blue Line", that guy is as camp as Christmas).
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