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I played through the game but was shocked to not find a reference to Edgeworth in it.

I mean Nick mentioned a friend who sent him Pink Princess/Samurai DVDS which is probably Maya.

In the first case the question is raised who wouldn't be able to tell if the backs of the cards were Red.....maybe it's just me but I instantly thought Godot.

I mean Gumshoe and Meekins even got cameo's but is there no Edgey reference? Or did I just miss it.

It's got me worried that he dies at the end of GK now since theres no references.
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Huh. Now you mention it, I don't think there IS any reference to Edgy. Now THAT'S strange :yuusaku:
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Oh so I didn't miss anything? He really isn't mentioned at all?
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He wasn't mentioned, HOWEVER, I strongly think that he took part in Phoenix's secret mission about the Jurist System.
After all, Edgey has a lot of power and influence, being a famous prosecutor. I don't think that Phoenix could've done it alone, being disbarred...
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Actually, there is one. Ema vaguely references him. She idolized Edgeworth in 1-5, so when she complains about the "glimmerous fop", Klavier, she remarks :sassy: "A prosecutor should be cool of wit and furrowed of brow". Definately not a direct reference, but it's about as strong as the others and I'm sure most people thought of Edgeworth when they first read it. To me it's unlikely that it would refer to anyone else.
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Ema also says a prosecutor should be simmerous rather than glimmerous ... sounds like she's not over her teenage crush on Edgeworth yet!
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I dunno about that....I mean the references before have been about one person like....

An old friend sent him DVD's.
Someone who couldn't know it was red.

What that witch Ema said there applies to many prosecutors, the Karma's and Edgey and it's a vague speculation about any prosecutor...I wouldn't call it a real reference.
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Well, looking at all the refences listed here, the biggest stretch is the godot one...

Would be funny though:
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:hobohodo: So apollo, who thought the back of the cards were blue?
:odoroki: (present Godot profile) He did! He couldn't see red so he just picked a color!
:hobohodo: ...
:udgy: ...
:payne-stroke: *sigh* objection.
:udgy: Did you just give Mr. Payne the opportunity to use a miles edgeworth patented sigh-objection? Well, I've given out penalties for less. (bahsh-penality-noise)
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Yes, there is one definative Edgey reference. When Phoenix talks about the jurist system, he mentions that it's a dark time for the legal system, and that the jurist system is there to improve it by using foreign techniques. When Edgey returns in 3-5 he says what is approximately the same line (when he learns of the paper badge, that is), pointing out that he's studied foreign legal systems which could evolve the current one. While I forget the exact comments and their order, given how much he comments on how Phoenix is brilliant in his pursuit of justice, I think that Edgeworth definately had an involvement in the Jurist system; it's more than blind speculation.
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Larry is also seen in the background of Sunshine Coliseum. And though I don't think any reference to Godot in 4-1 was intentional, there is one in 4-4 that's pretty obvious.

Spoiler: 4-4, 3-5
When examining Drew's poisoned coffee, Ema or Apollo makes a remark about how weird it is for someone to die by poisoned coffee.


But just because Edgeworth doesn't show up when Apollo's around (the game's from his POV almost exclusively, after all) doesn't mean anything happened to him. They just didn't want to make AJ into The Cameo Show.
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Larry was in the coliseum?! That I have to see.

Still I know it's not the cameo show it just baffled me that Meekins would get a cameo above Edgey.
Though remembering how he did study abroad I figure he would be the best qualified to bring the Jurist system to...whatever country AA is set in.
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Ema's attitude toward Klavier makes a whole lot more sense when you realize she's still crushing on Edgey and expected to see him again.
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Still I know it's not the cameo show it just baffled me that Meekins would get a cameo above Edgey.


Because Mike didn't get a cameo 'cause he's the crowd favorite; he got a cameo because his role fit in with the story.

Edgy does not fit in with the story (at least from Apollo's POV) so Edgy does not get a cameo.
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Still I know it's not the cameo show it just baffled me that Meekins would get a cameo above Edgey.


Because Mike didn't get a cameo 'cause he's the crowd favorite; he got a cameo because his role fit in with the story.

Edgy does not fit in with the story (at least from Apollo's POV) so Edgy does not get a cameo.

I thought it was also because the team that worked on 1-5 was also the team for AJ? That's the part that irritates me.

And while I agree with what Qeepo said, that it's almost certain Edgeworth was involved in setting up the Jurist System, I still would have preferred something slightly more solid. I think Phoenix should have mentioned that a good friend of his helped set it up, or gave him the idea... or something. D:
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Still I know it's not the cameo show it just baffled me that Meekins would get a cameo above Edgey.


Because Mike didn't get a cameo 'cause he's the crowd favorite; he got a cameo because his role fit in with the story.

Edgy does not fit in with the story (at least from Apollo's POV) so Edgy does not get a cameo.

I thought it was also because the team that worked on 1-5 was also the team for AJ? That's the part that irritates me.

And while I agree with what Qeepo said, that it's almost certain Edgeworth was involved in setting up the Jurist System, I still would have preferred something slightly more solid. I think Phoenix should have mentioned that a good friend of his helped set it up, or gave him the idea... or something. D:


Yar thats more what I was expecting, it's nice and vague but solider than what the actual reference was if it was an intended reference.
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Actually, there is one. Ema vaguely references him. She idolized Edgeworth in 1-5, so when she complains about the "glimmerous fop", Klavier, she remarks :sassy: "A prosecutor should be cool of wit and furrowed of brow". Definately not a direct reference, but it's about as strong as the others and I'm sure most people thought of Edgeworth when they first read it. To me it's unlikely that it would refer to anyone else.



Oh I didn't even catch that the first time. Yep, I would think this could count as a tiny reference. I think I still would have preferred Phoenix to say SOMETHING about Edgewroth as well though. :hobohodo:
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Larry is also seen in the background of Sunshine Coliseum.


Where? (Sorry, but I don't recognise him...)
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Check the lower right hand side in both pics. In the first you can see a guy in orange with a girl, and in the second a guy in pink, painting.
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Wow, I knew about the first one, but I wasn't so sure.
But with him painting on the second version, it became obvious.

It also disproves my thread I just opened :sadshoe:
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I think there was a reference to Edgey:
Spoiler: 4-4
When Phoenix is breaking Drew Misham's Psyche Locks, Drew thinks Phoenix says "Psycho Locks".

I think that was meant to be an Edgeworth reference.
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Spoiler: 4-4
I think it's just simply logical that someone (who is not familiar with the concept) would say "Psycho Lock".

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Szabu wrote:
Spoiler: 4-4
I think it's just simply logical that someone (who is not familiar with the concept) would say "Psycho Lock".

Aw geez, you all want an Edgey reference, and when I point out where there could be one for ya you have to do that. "It is how you look at it" children... *brick'd* Okay I'll stop now...
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Check the lower right hand side in both pics. In the first you can see a guy in orange with a girl, and in the second a guy in pink, painting.



Holy cow I must be missing tons of stuff if I missed this!! I wonder how many other in-jokes or references I've completely missed out on... :yuusaku:
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Check the lower right hand side in both pics. In the first you can see a guy in orange with a girl, and in the second a guy in pink, painting.



Holy cow I must be missing tons of stuff if I missed this!! I wonder how many other in-jokes or references I've completely missed out on... :yuusaku:



I second that! It's really awesome! :edgy:
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Ema's attitude toward Klavier makes a whole lot more sense when you realize she's still crushing on Edgey and expected to see him again.


At least Edgeworth didn't speak in sporadic German.
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Check the lower right hand side in both pics. In the first you can see a guy in orange with a girl, and in the second a guy in pink, painting.


I wonder...
Spoiler: 4-4
In the MASON System phase, does Phoenix mention anything about it?

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Nope, you can't examine him.
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What about Turnabout Serenade?
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I'm almost entirely sure you can't examine there either.
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somewere in the first case , Apollo says "Ergo something something, but that really does'nt really count as a referance...does it?
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KHF wrote:
I think there was a reference to Edgey:
Spoiler: 4-4
When Phoenix is breaking Drew Misham's Psyche Locks, Drew thinks Phoenix says "Psycho Locks".

I think that was meant to be an Edgeworth reference.



Seeing as Edgeworth is the ONLY other character I know of to have said it like that, I regard it as an Edgey reference.
I also regard what Ema says as Edgey references, since Ema was involved in only one court case and that the prosecutor of that case was....
*let's you figure the rest out yourself, bows down Edgeworth style*
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DarkCoffeeJazz wrote:
KHF wrote:
I think there was a reference to Edgey:
Spoiler: 4-4
When Phoenix is breaking Drew Misham's Psyche Locks, Drew thinks Phoenix says "Psycho Locks".

I think that was meant to be an Edgeworth reference.



Seeing as Edgeworth is the ONLY other character I know of to have said it like that, I regard it as an Edgey reference.
I also regard what Ema says as Edgey references, since Ema was involved in only one court case and that the prosecutor of that case was....
*let's you figure the rest out yourself, bows down Edgeworth style*


But how many people said Psyche-lock... anyhow?
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DarkCoffeeJazz wrote:
KHF wrote:
I think there was a reference to Edgey:
Spoiler: 4-4
When Phoenix is breaking Drew Misham's Psyche Locks, Drew thinks Phoenix says "Psycho Locks".

I think that was meant to be an Edgeworth reference.



Seeing as Edgeworth is the ONLY other character I know of to have said it like that, I regard it as an Edgey reference.
I also regard what Ema says as Edgey references, since Ema was involved in only one court case and that the prosecutor of that case was....
*let's you figure the rest out yourself, bows down Edgeworth style*


Actually she testified (or atleast tried) against Joe Darke, which was a court case too, right?
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In the first case the question is raised who wouldn't be able to tell if the backs of the cards were Red.....maybe it's just me but I instantly thought Godot.


That's a huge stretch. Not only is the answer to the question completely germane to the trial in question - the real killer wouldn't know because it was the blue deck on the table, despite the red cards being in play, and
Spoiler: 4-1 spoiler
Kristoph called the cards in play blue, which is what proved he was there
... But it's also not how Godot's vision problem worked - he wasn't completely colourblind, he just couldn't see the difference between red and white*, presumably because his visor tinted everything red, and therefor red and white looked the same. He could see blue (even if he'd see it as purple), and tell the difference between blue and red.

* Speaking of stretching to get a reference...the two colours Godot can't distinguish from each other happen to make the name of the man who killed Mia. Probably not in the developers' minds when they decided Godot couldn't see red-on-white, but a cute coincidence. :godot:
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whoa. totally missed that.

But who else thinks that the old lady at people park is oldbag? :yuusaku:
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Croik wrote:
Larry is also seen in the background of Sunshine Coliseum. And though I don't think any reference to Godot in 4-1 was intentional, there is one in 4-4 that's pretty obvious.

Spoiler: 4-4, 3-5
When examining Drew's poisoned coffee, Ema or Apollo makes a remark about how weird it is for someone to die by poisoned coffee.


But just because Edgeworth doesn't show up when Apollo's around (the game's from his POV almost exclusively, after all) doesn't mean anything happened to him. They just didn't want to make AJ into The Cameo Show.


Why can I NOT find that spoiler in the game?

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Oh, so he's not the guy on the stairs? Oh...
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Coppo, that's grasping a bit. :acro: We all want Edgey, don't we?

By the way, I think there was an Oldbag reference in 4-2. The old lady jumping the fence. :redd:
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Izanami wrote:
Actually, there is one. Ema vaguely references him. She idolized Edgeworth in 1-5, so when she complains about the "glimmerous fop", Klavier, she remarks :sassy: "A prosecutor should be cool of wit and furrowed of brow". Definately not a direct reference, but it's about as strong as the others and I'm sure most people thought of Edgeworth when they first read it. To me it's unlikely that it would refer to anyone else.


Makes perfect sense to me. Ema was super infatuated with Edgeworth in 1-5. She thought he was a god, pretty much. So she probably thinks Klavier is an asshole.
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But there is one, I´m sure. When you start the second case and are in the hospital, you have too examine the little piano. Apollo then says something like (very paraprhased and translated from german):
:odoroki: He has a pink-mini-piano?! Thats more then weird.Not that anything is wrong about a men wearing pink...

And we all know that pink=Edgewort!
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