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which version do you have? Also, the one im using, it shows japanese text and nothing else in the bottom screen


version 2.4a. I think your issues is with the nds backup, go to the emulation options and tinker with it.
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WOW. How did I not see that coming?


Spoiler: Naruhodo/Phoenix
So, a case within a case.... tricky, I didn't think they could actually do that. Does Phoenix actually look the same as he did in the games, suit and all? Also, anything important show up in the Court Record?



As for Minuki....

Spoiler: identity revealed?!
So, Minuki really is Pearl? If so, didn't she already lose her parents, like, ages ago? I mean, I know she lost her mother around GS2, but I don't think she ever knew her father, did she?

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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
Spoiler: identity revealed?!
So, Minuki really is Pearl? If so, didn't she already lose her parents, like, ages ago? I mean, I know she lost her mother around GS2, but I don't think she ever knew her father, did she?



Spoiler: Not quite?
Actually, Minuki isn't Pearl. She lost her parents in the case 7 years ago. *nod*

...I think.


EDIT: O YEH GOTTA MAKE IT ABOUT SOMETHIN'
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Do we know who the

Spoiler: Case 4!
"7 Years Ago" prosecutor is?

and STILL no signs of Maya or Miles? :(

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Hyoumaru wrote:
so, WHY did Phoenix stop being a lawyer then?


This is just my guess, don't take it as the truth -
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I think he got the wrong person convicted by that time, because Minuki did
something to the crime scene and messed up the evidence logic.


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And we still don't get a name?

I'm going to go crawl in a corner and weep now.


I do have her last name, since I am very bad at reading them, the answer based on
my understanding is
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Nanabun Detective Gumshoe Very odd name, even for a Japanese.


I don't think I read it right.
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Nanabun? Eww...


I'm happy as long as nothing shows up that renders Hobohodo / Older Ema impossible.
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No Edgeworth and Maya Fey makes me very very sad.....
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I don't know if anyone else mentioned this (And I don't feel like reading through 7 pages just yet) but...

Spoiler: Regarding the Garyuu brothers
Did anyone else get the vague feeling of a von Karma parallel?

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I looked at all the spoilers... and died. jk

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But is it true that
-Phoenix is Minuki's father
-Garyuu killed the guy in case 1
-all of you got the ROM illegally *shot*

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Yes
Not sure
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Keep the bombs coming...

New Returning characters:
Spoiler:
Gumshoe
Meekins


Case 4 Prosecutor:
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Prosecutor Garyuu, who was also the prosecutor of the case 7 years ago.


Minuki's Father:
Spoiler:
He IS the victim of the 1st case, that con artist. Ack


Odoroki's See-through Bangle:
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Got it from his mother, whom also used to be the wife of victim in the 1st case. The mother then went MIA. Later on it is to be found out that she was in the jury, and was one of the characters appeared in Case 3 (the veiled woman) !  She also had a bangle on her left hand. Beef


So Yes, Minuki and Odoroki are:
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Siblings. Same mother, different fathers. They are both grandchildren of a famous magician, Tensai. Both gifted to see through other people's thoughts. Meekins


Akane (Ema)'s button on Naruhodo's hat:
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It is a camera! Also with the feature to allow Naruhodo to go switch between the past and the present Dr? Hotti


Why Garyuu did that thing in case 1:
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7 years ago, the Magician family was performing their program on a show, somehow the skit failed and Tensai was shot and wounded, sent to the hospital. Then he mysteriously died in the hospital room. It is not a natural death, and caused Minuki's father to get suspected and sent to trial.

Naruhodo was a legend at that time, and Garyuus are rookies. Older Garyuu wanted Minuki's father to be convicted badly, and at the same time, get rid of Naruhodo. So he forged the evidence and let Naruhodo use it. Then tell his brother to file to the court - that Naruhodo is using illegal ways to win this case.

The Judge found out and suspended Naruhodo's badge, also made the verdict that Minuki's father is guilty.

Minuki's father used his magic ability and escaped from court, avoided the sentence, for 7 years.

The Garyuus rose to fame. Naruhodo became Naruhobo.

7 years pasted. Older Garyuu now got to know that Minuki's father returned from another country, and now he had a reputation can't afford to lose, and he knows these two men he undermined will not just sit there and be happy about it...so he had to get rid of both of them.

Under this kind of situation, Case 1 started.


Why Choose Odoroki for Naruhodo's case
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Naruhodo picked him because he knows he is Tensai's grandson, so he can do it - to see through others during court.


The Garyuus:
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Quite opposite personalities. The older one is nuts(he went berserk during the trials) and kinda like Von Karma... While the young Garyuu suspected the 7-yr-old case was messed by his brother, so in Case 4, final scene, he made an Edgeworth and stood on Odoroki's side.


The 7-yr-case:
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The older Garyuu got summoned from his No.13 cell and testified again. He thought the case is already closed for 7 years and is now invalid, but because Minuki's father escaped, so there is no one actually charged, this case still stands. This time he got charged...for everything he did.


Edgeworth or Maya?
Spoiler:
Sorry, did not see them at all. Please hug Akane, Gumshoe and Meekins for they are the only ones to stick with our Naruhodo for all those years.


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Naila wrote:
Keep the bombs coming...

New Returning characters:
Spoiler:
Gumshoe
Meekins


<3

Do they get new sprites?
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Spoiler: ZOMG
Whoa.

Uh... huh. Lots of stuff I wouldn't expect.

Gumshoe and Meekins? Pretty awesome. In what capacity do they return, do they look any different?

No Maya and Edgeworth, though... = EPIC FAILURE.

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rtsmarty wrote:
Naila wrote:
Keep the bombs coming...

New Returning characters:
Spoiler:
Gumshoe
Meekins


<3

Do they get new sprites?


Spoiler:
Could not tell on Meekins Larry
and I have no information on Gumshoe except someone told me he was there...he quit , because Naruhodo's event 7 years ago.



Err, is there anyone still want info on Case 2 and the original Case 4 ?

I am just too tired to translate the run-through of Case 3...
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Naila wrote:
Keep the bombs coming...

Odoroki's See-through Bangle:
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Got it from his mother, whom also used to be the wife of victim in the 1st case. The mother was then MIA. Later on it is to be found out that she was in the jury, and was one of the characters appeared in Case 3 (the veiled woman) !  She also had a bangle on her left hand. Beef



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W-wait one second! I'm confused about this Meekins Mia: a mother? To who? Alive? Augh... my english skills fails me...
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Happiness Punch! wrote:
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W-wait one second! I'm confused about this Meekins Mia: a mother? To who? Alive? Augh... my english skills fails me...



MIA = Missing In Action. Sorry for the confusion.
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Spoiler: For HP
Orodoki's mother was married originally to the con artist from case 1 (Who was minuki's dad). Then she married another guy and had orodoki. Then she dissapeared


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Oh, phew. I was about to explode.

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Oh, Gumshoe, glad to hear he's alive... Larry
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Spoiler: Yeah, me too
It makes me wonder about what he's been doing for seven years. And I hope the police rehire him, in some managerial role.

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Gerkuman wrote:
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Orodoki's mother was married originally to the con artist from case 1 (Who was minuki's dad). Then she married another guy and had orodoki. Then she dissapeared


Oh, and Naila, YOU ROCK!


Thanks, my pleasure. Maya Fey

About the marriage order...I think she
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married Odoroki's father first, had Odoroki, then divorced.
After that she married to Minuki's father, had Minuki, then disappeared after the trial.
Otherwise the children's age order will be a big question mark.
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That makes much more sense ^_^ Of course its also possible that:

Spoiler: Possibility
Orodoki's father may have died/been murdered. Japan doesn't seem to have as much divorces as the western world.

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Damn it, now Odoroki HAS to go with Older Ema if she isn't already taken by Hobohodo .

Then again, if Edgeworth and Franziska are any indication...

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Well, :miles: / :franziska: squick me out and they're not even BIOLOGICALLY related, whereas Torchic and Minuki are :P

Also, this explains the locket conundrum >.>

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It's alllllll clear now.

I was like

OMG WTF?!

when i saw.....

Spoiler:
Odoroki-kun and Minuki were BROTHER AND SISTER! Then I saw MIA but Iwas thinking that because it was in capitals it might be a abbreviation.

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TheDarkArchon wrote:
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Akane is Ema, not Minuki



Uh... If that was a reply to my post...

Spoiler: Akane
I KNOW that Akane is Ema. I was just asking if there was any new info on her rumored relationship with Naruhodou... And if she has, by any extremely rare and highly unlikely chance, a son named Houdzuki Hideki. :/


But thanks to Naila (Who has now inevitably become my first ever internet heroine for posting all that stuff because the mail system back here's friggen messed up and didn't deliver my GS4 game. :/) I now have the answers to my questions. :P

Spoiler: OdoMinu
It's a hell of a nice twist. Odoroki and Minuki... Siblings.

I suspected it a few times before, but never really focused on it... Damn, that's neat. :P

I'm just glad my outrageous "Minuki is actually Chihiro and Souryuu's child" theory (It's in there somewhere...) got debunked before it could get any worse.


EDIT:

Spoiler: My "prank"
Geez, why is everyone so pissed to find out that Broom Lady =/= GS4 Mayoi? I was the one who friggen came up with that, and I honestly had no idea that it went all the way to GameFAQs and started some weird... crappy internet fandom thing. :/

So, if I need to apologize for leading people on to think that Broom Lady really is Mayoi or something, well... Yeah. Sorry. -.-

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Orcaizer Al wrote:
Spoiler: My "prank"
Geez, why is everyone so pissed to find out that Broom Lady =/= GS4 Mayoi? I was the one who friggen came up with that, and I honestly had no idea that it went all the way to GameFAQs and started some weird... crappy internet fandom thing. :



I am actually surprised some idiots believed it.
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My god, this must be the most epic game in the series so far. So many twists and turnabouts, it all seems almost chaotic.


Spoiler: The incompitent cop we all like
It's too bad we were all wrong about Gumshoe though. Anyone willing to bet he became a P.I. after quitting the force? :D


Actually, this sort-of contradicts one of the developer interviews, doesn't it? The one where they said they didn't know what happened to Gumshoe? But I suppose that could've been a red herring.


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Spoiler: My "prank"
Geez, why is everyone so pissed to find out that Broom Lady =/= GS4 Mayoi? I was the one who friggen came up with that, and I honestly had no idea that it went all the way to GameFAQs and started some weird... crappy internet fandom thing. :/

So, if I need to apologize for leading people on to think that Broom Lady really is Mayoi or something, well... Yeah. Sorry. -.-



No need to apologize. Anyone willing to believe that at all without proof to back it up is really, really stupid. That, and they should know better than to listen to rumors far before the game comes out. Hobohodo
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So...
Spoiler: 7 years ago case
So who is the prosecutor then when you play as Phoenix? Older Garyuu or younger?
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DarzieP wrote:
Orcaizer Al wrote:
Spoiler: My "prank"
Geez, why is everyone so pissed to find out that Broom Lady =/= GS4 Mayoi? I was the one who friggen came up with that, and I honestly had no idea that it went all the way to GameFAQs and started some weird... crappy internet fandom thing. :



I am actually surprised some idiots believed it.


Not as surprised as I was when I found out it went to GameFAQs. :/

I most definitely DO NOT want to be known as "Orcaizer Al: The Guy who lied about Broom Lady".

Thank goodness the Broom Lady fanbase has died down now... I hope.
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Looks like I got a few things to say this morning:

Spoiler: On OdoMinu
:odoroki: / Minuki = MAGI-CEST, BABY! *brick'd*


And several questions, divided for different spoilery aspects.

Spoiler: On Parentage (Game-wide spoilery)
Ok...so....Odo and Minuki's papa was the very first victim?

And he was the defendant in the '7 YEEEEAAARS AAGOOOOO!' case?

So...what was his real reason for searching out Phoenix in the first case? Because if things went that deep, I have a hard time believing now that he was JUST about proving Phoenix a cheater at poker


Spoiler: And a few Character/Personality questions (Game-wide spoilery)
What's the deal with Kyouya

Does he eschew the unscrupulous prosecutor image? He seems personable enough, and I remember the devs repeatedly noting how good a guy he was or something.

And what IS Detective Gumshoe doing 'these days'? And did he quit in protest of Phoenix's disbarrment? Disillusionment? Or was he fired due to his involvment? What?

Finally.... Meekins ?! Is he still on the force? Please tell me he's brightened up JUST a tad.


And finally...

Spoiler: On the "new" system (Case 4 spoilery)
So...what's the deal with the Jury system in the final case? How did that work? Was it eevn really a big change?

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Spoiler: Parentage
Actually, its only Minuki's Dad. Orodoki and Minuki are half siblings with the same mum but different dad

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Gerkuman wrote:
Spoiler: Parentage
Actually, its only Minuki's Dad. Orodoki and Minuki are half siblings with the same mum but different dad




Spoiler:
Ah, my bad then. General question still stands though, I suppose.

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Spoiler: Motive
Revenge. Phoenix's apparent cheating lost the case and made him go on the lam.

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Questions, si si.

Spoiler: Odoroki, not really spoiler
Is there any word of why he wanted to become a defense attorney?

Spoiler: Little G
I just saw a screen of Little Garyuu with short hair and glasses, so I presume it's a younger him. Does that mean he was the prosecutor of that case 7 years ago? Geebus, he's 24 in Gs4, so 24 minus 7 = 17 Ack Isn't that a little too young to be a prosecutor? Little too over the borderline...right? Someone broke Edgey's record Keiko Sad

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Happiness Punch! wrote:
Questions, si si.

Spoiler: Odoroki, not really spoiler
Is there any word of why he wanted to become a defense attorney?

Spoiler: Little G
I just saw a screen of Little Garyuu with short hair and glasses, so I presume it's a younger him. Does that mean he was the prosecutor of that case 7 years ago? Geebus, he's 24 in Gs4, so 24 minus 7 = 17 Ack Isn't that a little too young to be a prosecutor? Little too over the borderline...right? Someone broke Edgey's record Keiko Sad

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Spoiler: PSST....
Friska started when she was 13. Granted, it was in Germany, but still...

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Spoiler: Little G
According to Naila, he was the prosecutor and that young :F

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Kryptik wrote:
Spoiler: PSST....
Friska started when she was 13. Granted, it was in Germany, but still...



Spoiler: Hush!
Oh, yeah. Totally forgot. I just heard it somewhere in the game that Edgey was the youngest prosecutor ever. Guess it was PW1, because it had no mention of Franzi and they created her after the game, I presume. But still, Franzi is Manny's daughter, so what'd you expect? Godot That Garyuu must have something really really convincing material so he could become a prosecutor that age.


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Could you post the 17 year old Garyuu screenshot please?
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Hyoumaru wrote:
so, WHY did Phoenix stop being a lawyer then?

I don't feel like going and opening EVERY GODDAMN SPOILER BOX again, so I'll summarize:
Spoiler: GS4
Garyuu forges evidence, Phoenix uses it, gets caught, and has his badge suspended.

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