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Re: Valant Gramarye: Allakaawesome!!? (Spoilers)Topic%20Title

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The Doctor wrote:
So, Valant now has his own thread?

I demand a Brushel one and an Eldoon one, dammit!

Though Valant is awesome, and has an awesomer name than Zak.


Why not make Brushel and Eldoon threads? I'd post in them.

Anyway, Valant. He's terrific.

Spoiler: BIG 4-4 SPOILERS
When he revealed what his true crime was, it was so saddening. I mean, Magnifi always preferred Zak to him, Thalassa was the same, and I don't get the impression that he actually met many people outside of Troupe Gramarye, so he probably felt trapped with the three of them. And one day he snapped. I understand why. I want to visit him in prison in the next game. He's too good of a character to just leave.
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I AM SO DRAWING THIS GUY. Well, I had once... But it was just a sick figure going "ALLAKAWHATTHEHELL!?", so it doesn't count. I am loving the whole
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Him being Apollo's papa and all thing. Makes scence, since trucy looked NOTHING like Zak.


Also, I like this fella because
Spoiler: Zak Gramarye is a Jerk (BIG AJ SPOILER)
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Yuck. He was annoying. Actually, the whole magician family thing annoyed me but not as much as Valant (and their names).
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Yuck. He was annoying. Actually, the whole magician family thing annoyed me but not as much as Valant (and their names).


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Valant is one of my least favorite characters now these days.
Don't mind me, just passing through.
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Also, I like this fella because
Spoiler: Zak Gramarye is a Jerk (BIG AJ SPOILER)
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What's up with all the Valant hate in the Valant love thread?

BEGONE, UNBELIEVERS.

:varanbaran:: Alakoooooh no you don't! This ignominious charade will go no further! Silly thread-goers...tricks are for Gramaryes!
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How can you not like Valant? Or at least, if you don't like Valant, how can you not like Young Valant?
I mean, LOOK AT HIM!
:varanbaran: Alakazoooomg!

I'm trying to learn how to twirl a stick like he does.
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Valant is made of awesomesauce.
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I laught so hard when i saw the ALLAKAZOOMGG thing.
Valant is 3948345 times cooler than zak, but i think they are going to ruine him in the spanish version :larry:
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I'm trying to learn how to twirl a stick like he does.

I'd so love to see someone actually pull it off as well as he does. He's good with a stick.

..Pfft... ahahahaha!
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Rhia wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I'm trying to learn how to twirl a stick like he does.

I'd so love to see someone actually pull it off as well as he does. He's good with a stick.

..Pfft... ahahahaha!


Spoiler: 4-4
Then why did Thalassa go with Zak instead... oh, right, the pants doves... poor Valant. D:

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CockatriceWright wrote:
Spoiler: 4-4
Then why did Thalassa go with Zak instead... oh, right, the pants doves... poor Valant. D:

AllakaWHOOPS. XD

I still love the guy though.
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Rhia wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
I'm trying to learn how to twirl a stick like he does.

I'd so love to see someone actually pull it off as well as he does. He's good with a stick.

..Pfft... ahahahaha!



I've mastered Older Valant's stick-twirling skills. Now I'm working on Younger Valant's multiple twirling stick thingie.
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The Doctor wrote:
I've mastered Older Valant's stick-twirling skills. Now I'm working on Younger Valant's multiple twirling stick thingie.

Agh, it must be pretty hard to pull that off though.
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Look at the pretty picture :)
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That's a really kickass picture, Mia! Thanks for posting it! XD
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Oh HELL yes. Valant was awesome. He was probably my favorite character in AJ :D
I want to learn how to twirl a stick like that...
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Pfft- Ahahahaha!

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Yay, Valant topic!

Valant is really an awesome character. I don't know why I like him, he's just so perfectly balanced. He is overly confident, but not so much that it makes you want to kill him. He is suspicious looking, but not suspicious enough to be a killer. He is a jerk at times, but only because he has to be. Plus he says cool big words that actually fit with him.

For some reason, he reminds me of Godot.

Plus his shocked sprite is one of my favorites in the game.
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First post here!

:varanbaran:

"I cannot stand to stand at the stand!"

After playing through Apollo Justice, I cn honestly say that Valant is my favorite character in the game.
All of his ALAKAZAAAUUUGGHH's were pretty funny, and his animations are pretty bad-ass. I prefer the older-looking Valant to the young, but that's just me. I guess the mustache adds to the cool factor. His theme is a real good song too.

He is more likable than Zak, but I never understood why

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when Zak ran away, people would suspect Valant. I mean, if a prime suspect flees the trial, that usually casts doubt on his innocence, doesn't it?


Aside from that, i find him to be one of the more tragic characters of the game. It isn't easy being a failure, you know? I also like him blasting the press outside the Coliseum. The whole "they treat the greatest show on Earth like some Vaudevillian distraction! And yet I have to smile at them all!" thing was a rather cool bit. And Alliteration is awesome, moreso when done repeatedly.
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Emperor Ing wrote:
He is more likable than Zak, but I never understood why

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when Zak ran away, people would suspect Valant. I mean, if a prime suspect flees the trial, that usually casts doubt on his innocence, doesn't it?


Spoiler: 4-4
When the trial ended, there was a great deal of suspicion attached to Valant because what had been discovered in the trial like how he manipulated the scene. Besides, he had as strong a reason to kill Magnifi as Zak did, so he was a very clear possibility. The rumor that spread afterward was that Zak fled to protect his partner because coming clean to save himself would have incriminated Valant. As far as the court was concerned, Zak was guilty (even if that sentence wasn't official yet), but public opinion is never so clean cut. Rumors spread quickly and don't usually need confirmation to be believed.

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I was also a little dissappointed when they didn't have Valant in the credits. I was waiting the whole time, thinking "I guess they're gonna save him for last or something..."

But when he didn't come, I was like: "Hmmm... That's rather gay."
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omg ur just lik :edgeworth:

did ur parents di or somefin

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Trucy: [Daddy was fired from legal clerk for loitering] Daddy has a fun new job as a street sweeper!
Phoenix: Guess what Apollo, today I swept up some EVIDENCE! ....
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I thought I'd revive this thread, because I've been thinking about Valant a lot lately, and I've realized something:

Spoiler: WHOLE GAME MAJOR SPOILERS
He probably has the greatest tragedy in the game. Phoenix loses his badge and spends five years as a talentless piano player...but he's vindicated by the end. Klavier has to deal with a lot of stuff regarding his brother, but he eventually sorts everything out in his head. Trucy has to deal with the death of her biological father, but she has Phoenix and Apollo as her family now. Valant is really the only character (apart from Zak) to be worse off by the end of the story. In fact, if you directly compare him to Phoenix, you find that Phoenix spend 7 years waiting to be proven innocent. It happened. Valant spent 7 years waiting to inherit Magnifi's tricks. It never happened. Of course, this was probably karma (the universal force, not the prosecutorial dynasty) paying him back. But even if he hadn't tried to frame Zak, he never would've got the tricks anyway. He was basically screwed from the very start. And he finally turns himself in - such a noble action, when you consider that he could've used Zak's false confession to get out of everything - on the eve of his big comeback. He waited seven years...for absolutely nothing.
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I think I am the first to see this, but Revolver Ocelot from the MGS series is just too damn similiar to Valant. Here's what I mean
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Also, Valant is the best character in my opinion in AJ
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Spoiler for GS5:

Valant: The jurist system is in place.

Valant: No. No one is aware of my identity as of yet.

Valant: Of course. Thank you...Mr. President.


Spoiler: 4:4
Valant is probably the only quote unquote "murderer" I've had sympathy for. For a while I thought his confrontation would involve Phoenix finally proving his guilt, but as they talked I started to realize, even if he did kill Magnifi, he doesn't really deserve all this. Oh, I might be forgetting Adrian Andrews, but...well, I hate people who plead the fifth.

I'm gone for so long, and the colors got all psychedelic! Woohoo!


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Valant: 6 bullets more than enough to kill anything that lives... *looks at :gipsy: *
Valant: They call me SHALASHASKA!!
Valant: Kristoph... GET OUT OF MY HEAD :pft:

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OMG. He IS Ocelot! That's a frikkin' awesome thing you caught, Wind.
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It depends. Which Ocelot are we talking about.

Weird Revolver Ocelot in MGS1
Cool Revolver Ocelot in MGS2
Complete Bitch Prick Ocelot in MGS3 (okay so he wasn't even legal drinking age back then- but you cannot deny the fact that he was a TOTAL douche in that game)

I personally like to compare Valant to a combination of MGS1 and MGS2 Ocelot. MGS3 Ocelot as a younger Valant maybe C:
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WhiteElephant wrote:
It depends. Which Ocelot are we talking about.

Weird Revolver Ocelot in MGS1
Cool Revolver Ocelot in MGS2
Complete Bitch Prick Ocelot in MGS3 (okay so he wasn't even legal drinking age back then- but you cannot deny the fact that he was a TOTAL douche in that game)

I personally like to compare Valant to a combination of MGS1 and MGS2 Ocelot. MGS3 Ocelot as a younger Valant maybe C:


Old Valant is indeed MGS1-MGS2 Ocelot, MGS3's Ocelot is like a blonde short haired version of young Valant.
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I'm surprised no one has commented on the fucking awesome piano skills he has. I mean, he played the Guitar Serenade on piano BY EAR ONLY. I bet he'd be able to teach Phoenix some piano lessons himself.

VALANT IS SO FUCKING AWESOME IT'S NOT FUNNY
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Okay, that's it.

Just for that comment, Huesudo, I have to say...

Valant > Phoenix.

And your avatar made me spawn mine.
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Rhia wrote:
Okay, that's it.

Just for that comment, Huesudo, I have to say...

Valant > Phoenix.

And your avatar made me spawn mine.

I can see it now:

"Valant Gramarye: Ace Magician"

He needs a side-kick. At least one that isn't a pink wearing douche.
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Trucy can be the "sidekick".

... I don't care what some would say, I'm just stating the obvious conclusion.
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Rhia wrote:
Okay, that's it.

Just for that comment, Huesudo, I have to say...

Valant > Phoenix.

And your avatar made me spawn mine.

At least
Valant> Phoenix in AJ (imo)

and make a comment about my spriting, I never sprited before really. Only tried small things like making a hair more gray :yuusaku:
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Rhia wrote:
But, he's an Apollo stalker. Just look at 4-3. He kept coming out if nowhere, and ran off when Apollo called out to him. Maybe squealed in joy when he 'vanished'.


I HOPE they go into more details about the Gramaryes (and Trucy and Apollo) in GS5, cuz this is some very interesting family dramaz.



My current gut-theory is Valant is indeed Apollo's father, and the whole "death" story could be a fabricaiton.

I have to flee but I'll post my thoughts on that later, it could be possible.
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Arei wrote:
I HOPE they go into more details about the Gramaryes (and Trucy and Apollo) in GS5, cuz this is some very interesting family dramaz.



My current gut-theory is Valant is indeed Apollo's father, and the whole "death" story could be a fabricaiton.

I have to flee but I'll post my thoughts on that later, it could be possible.


I agree that they really need to go more into the family dynamic in the next game. There is just so much that we don't know and what we do know leaves me believing that a lot of interesting stuff is to follow.

I will admit that Valant as Apollo's father is currently my favorite theory although I'm not sure how well it fits with what we know. Oh well. I guess we'll find out.
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Since someone posted the first one...(Spoilers for all cases, of course.)

Spoiler: Zak is a jerk
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Edit: ...Only to realize there's already a topic called Zak is a jerk, with these posted in the first post. :sadshoe:
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I love how young Valant's able to pull of that multiple spin with the stick, but it's sad that older Valant can do one...

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Oh yeah, and for the longest time, I thought he really shot Magnifi. For some reason, I really thought he did it...

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