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:cough: sniffly phoenix ftw xD cuz he was just so darn cute

then :phoenix: because he's good to his friends and doesn't give up even in the toughest of times

then :hobohodo: seems much more sneaky and mysterious in an "ohcrapwhatisheupto" kinda way xD it's kinda scary, plus, him not being at the defense bench makes me sad :sadshoe:
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Why suddenly is everyone calling pheonix apollo..........names everywhere are changing..is this because of a.p.r.i.l f.o.o.l.s day?
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Pheonix isn't John, that's Appolo. John Travolta. Pheonix is Appolo, and Appolo is John Travolta.
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...now that the filter is off ull see what i was trying to say...-sweat- i wasn't asking why pheonix was being called john I was asking why pheonix was being called apollo...er....nvm...im confusing myself
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:phoenix: i like both phoenixs but i chose lawyer phoenix. booya
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Citrus is a hobosexual. :hobohodo:

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I don't know, hard choice....



I take :hobohodo: because he made you help a guy who lost his noodle stand. And although he was an ass for most of the game, the conclusion makes up for it.


I wish you could've been Hobo Phoenix though, I mean, how cool would it be to Object! out of a cardboard box?
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Hobo Phoenix.

Because his life philosiphy is "Screw the rules, I'm a former Lawyer who is now a hobo, what do I have to lose?"

Also, this pose is epic.
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I just remembered something else about Feenie that bothered me:

:chinami: Gimme my necklace back.
:sick: Mmm... lemme think...
:jazzsneeze: No! 8D

Seriously, why didn't Feenie give Dahlia's necklace back?
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Marshmello wrote:
I just remembered something else about Feenie that bothered me:

:chinami: Gimme my necklace back.
:sick: Mmm... lemme think...
:jazzsneeze: No! 8D

Seriously, why didn't Feenie give Dahlia's necklace back?


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Because it was a token of love, and he adored it.

...yet he apparantly had no problem eating it. :eh?:

I also get the impression that Iris wasn't very good at being forceful. She probably tried to ask in a very roundabout way, but found that he was so attached to it that it would upset her to ruin that (this is the girl who cries when you give her a HARD LOOK.

She probably told Dahlia she had tried everything, and Dahlia probably believed it. If she had threatened to break up with him, he might have given it back, but Dahlia's not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to planning later on. :chinami:

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:phoenix: > :hobohodo: has always been, and will always be this way for me.
I'm not going into details, but HoboNix lost most of what made me absolutely adore Phoenix.

I do hope though, that I'd see a fusion between :phoenix: & :hobohodo: , like if he became a laywer again, I'd want to see how he would act in court and so on..
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Seriously, why didn't Feenie give Dahlia's necklace back?


Because to him, it meant that someone loved him. It was a time when he needed lots of love.
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Sheepshifter wrote:
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Seriously, why didn't Feenie give Dahlia's necklace back?


Because to him, it meant that someone loved him. It was a time when he needed lots of love.

I guess so... :yuusaku:

Wow. Feenie is so pathetic it isn't even cute.

:sick: Plus that face scared me.
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"Dollie": Um, Feenie, may I have that necklace back... please...?
Phoenix: What, you think I'm gonna lose it or somethin'? Don't worry Dollie, I'd never let this out of my sight for a second! ^ ^
Dollie: ...oh, of course. I'm sorry.

Personally I think all three versions of Phoenix have their own charms and quirks that I love, but I like lawyer Phoenix the most.
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Aw,that's ashame to like :hobohodo: more than :phoenix: I'd rather choose both...................besides,....O____________O;; I think :hobohodo: is a bit more popular than :phoenix: :gymshoe:
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I loathe hobo Phoenix. They totally ruined his character and it pisses me off. I felt like throwing the DS across the room every time I saw him in GS4.

So, yeah... I prefer :phoenix: obviously.
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I guess I disagree with most of you I prefer :phoenix:

:hobohodo: --> Just need to get a hold of himself.
I know he looks much more sexy and mysteries this way but, think of the facts.
I mean it's been 7 years and you're living in a messy office with a daughter you suppose to feed but, somehow she's providing, feeding and clothing you. All you do is getting hurt, playing cards and acting really wired.

It's funny in a way...
:phoenix: is such a little boy at heart. He needs his "Mommy" figure to look after him in life
1st it was :chinami: and her sister (well... That didn't go too well...) then it was :youngmia: , then :maya: now it's :minuki: and without his respectable job and with :minuki: being only 8 when you started living together he became :hobohodo: I really hope he'll get his badge back or at least with :odoroki: around together with all the things that'll remind him of court and actual job he could pull himself together

(Maybe in the future :edgy: will finally be his Mommy's figure and :hobohodo: can be his lost Daddy's figure)
(Another reason why those two are so right for each-other!!!)

I just thought of something... I wonder if we'll ever find-out about :phoenix: 's real mom..
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I loathe hobo Phoenix. They totally ruined his character and it pisses me off. I felt like throwing the DS across the room every time I saw him in GS4.

I thought he hadn't changed much at all. Phoenix has ALWAYS been a bit of a jerk - and now you don't see his inner thoughts anymore, so it showed even more. Try reading Phoenix's texts in the first three games without reading the thoughts, and you'll see what I mean.
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I like original and Young phoenix...i havent met hobo/young phoenix yet, but i have seen young phoenix and hobo phoenix is EVERYWHERE on devart, and i have had the game pretty much spoiled by newbs, so i dont really care anymore...i want to play though - i just cant get my mind around 'normal' to 'nutcase hobo freak...with sandals'....really...he's turned into sandal-hat from bleach XD
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I guess I disagree with most of you I prefer :phoenix:

:hobohodo: --> Just need to get a hold of himself.
I know he looks much more sexy and mysteries this way but, think of the facts.
I mean it's been 7 years and you're living in a messy office with a daughter you suppose to feed but, somehow she's providing, feeding and clothing you. All you do is getting hurt, playing cards and acting really wired.

I agree. :phoenix: is by far the best.

I don't harbour such an intense hatred for :hobohodo: as other people seem to (all of my intense hate goes to :sick:, but I think I've ranted about him enough), but his character did take a lot of getting used to.

I also ranted about his career in an earlier post, the long and short being that :phoenix: friggin' went to university! Why the hell didn't he get a real job, especially given the fact that HE HAS A DAUGHTER TO TAKE CARE OF?!

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I don't harbour such an intense hatred for :hobohodo: as other people seem to (all of my intense hate goes to :sick:, but I think I've ranted about him enough), but his character did take a lot of getting used to.

I also ranted about his career in an earlier post, the long and short being that :phoenix: friggin' went to university! Why the hell didn't he get a real job, especially given the fact that HE HAS A DAUGHTER TO TAKE CARE OF?!

:zennybw:


Are you kidding? He was an ART STUDENT. I'm surprised he even got a job at a restaurant.
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Besides, I'm almost entirely convinced that he moonlights as a male prostitute. Plenty of money there.
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Yeah... But he changed it to law study because of Mia and mostly because of Edgey (True love there)
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On first impression I would've probably said Hobonick, but now that I've had some time to think about it, I think I'll have to say :phoenix:.

I liked the fact that they made Phoenix really sarcastic and smarmy in AA4, but they ended up going overboard with it a little. Somewhere in there, his heart is still in the right place, but the way he went about doing things made me lose some of my respect for what he used to stand for.

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He seems to take no issue whatsoever with forging evidence to help Apollo win his first trial. You'd think that he would remember how crushed he was to lose his career as a lawyer to falsified evidence, and would know better than to expose another person to that risk. I also didn't like how much influence he had over everything in the fourth case, and basically orchestrated it all for the sake of settling his grudge.


Sometimes I like a mysterious character that seems to know everything that's going on and works behind the scenes, but in Hobo's case it ultimately ended up annoying me. Lawyer Phoenix went through a lot of trying situations but didn't lose sight of the things he really treasured. He's just got a much more likable personality.
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^ Well, it was sort of Kristoph who had the grudge, as Phoenix was chosen over him and so he gave Phoenix forged evidence. I see it as Phoenix getting the truth to reveal itself, and the jurist system wasn't just to 'settle a grudge', it was also supposed to help cases like 4-3, where no hard evidence could be found. Kristoph really was the forger, and killer, and he was getting away with it. If I was able to help to convict Kristoph, I would. And if it did turn out that it was to be discovered as a forgery, he would take all responsibility. Besides, there really was a card with a drop of blood on it, as Kristoph took the real one, and in order to convict him successfully, that card was needed. It's also fits the sense of irony the AA games have. He wasn't proud of it, and didn't complain when Apollo gave him an uppercut.
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I might not have minded the whole forged bloody ace thing as much if Phoenix hadn't ranted so much in the first two games about how despicable it was that Edgeworth and the von Karmas were willing to forge evidence to win their cases. Even if it's to catch Kristoph or teach Apollo a "lesson" or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that the pot's calling the kettle black. :yuusaku:


Anyway, I pick :phoenix: . I like dorky Phoenix, dammit.
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But it's more acceptable under the circumstances. Von Karma forged evidence for his win record, Phoenix did it to convict a killer. Well, technically, Phoenix couldn't have been a hypocrite back then, because he didn't forge evidence and didn't plan on to, but he never criticized forging evidence in Apollo Justice (I think). So... isn't hypocrisy only applied to someone when they've done something and then they criticize it?
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So... isn't hypocrisy only applied to someone when they've done something and then they criticize it?

No. It works both ways.
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I loathe hobo Phoenix. They totally ruined his character and it pisses me off. I felt like throwing the DS across the room every time I saw him in GS4.

I thought he hadn't changed much at all. Phoenix has ALWAYS been a bit of a jerk - and now you don't see his inner thoughts anymore, so it showed even more. Try reading Phoenix's texts in the first three games without reading the thoughts, and you'll see what I mean.

Spoiler: 4:4
I know what you mean, but I'm actually talking more about when you get to play as him in the last case. Especially in the past. While the seven years might have explained the way he thinks/acts in the "present", considering the fact that the flashback takes place two months after 3:5, I think they really messed up his character. No one can change that much in two months. It's just ridiculous. Not to mention I could never imagine him playing poker - let alone be any good at it. I mean, the guy can't even keep a straight face. And they even go as far as contradicting themselves by making Klavier read him like an open book in the trial. There's so many things that make no sense in this game, it's not even funny.

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chazooma wrote:
So... isn't hypocrisy only applied to someone when they've done something and then they criticize it?

No. It works both ways.

....I'm just going to drop this, it's confusing me. But... it's not like Phoenix wanted to do it, I think he sort of had to.

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I might not have minded the whole forged bloody ace thing as much if Phoenix hadn't ranted so much in the first two games about how despicable it was that Edgeworth and the von Karmas were willing to forge evidence to win their cases. Even if it's to catch Kristoph or teach Apollo a "lesson" or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that the pot's calling the kettle black. :yuusaku:




Well, that's true. But I think what Phoenix was so appalled at was that Fran and Edgey put their perfect win record before all else, including justice.

Spoiler: 4-1
It still doesn't make Nick's "forgery" legally right, but it makes sense if you follow :hobohodo: 's thought processes and what he was trying to accomplish; he wasn't doing it for his own personal glory but to incriminate Kristoph and exonerate Olga. Plus, he knew he was being a bit of an asshole, which is why he gave Apollo better advice on how to hit him. XD

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:hobohodo: is cool but I think I like :phoenix: better. Until he got his lawyer badge he was a bit of a crybaby. :nixiesob:
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Spoiler: 4-1
I might not have minded the whole forged bloody ace thing as much if Phoenix hadn't ranted so much in the first two games about how despicable it was that Edgeworth and the von Karmas were willing to forge evidence to win their cases. Even if it's to catch Kristoph or teach Apollo a "lesson" or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that the pot's calling the kettle black. :yuusaku:


Spoiler: 1-5,4-1
It was hypocritical, but it really was just what 1-5 foreshadowed for Gant.

Gant's morals decayed to the point where forging evidence wasn't a problem anymore to accomplish what he thought was right, and neither was manipulating people. Phoenix went kind of the same way in the name of justice (although he didn't go so far as to kill people or implicate others for crimes). Phoenix, like Gant, had noble intentions to what he did, but had a skewed view of reality. Gant was a LOT more sociopathic and amoral about it, but it's a similar path.

It may be hypocritical, but with seven years and a traumatic disgrace between those two points, it could be excused that someone doesn't exactly see things the same way anymore.

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Spoiler: 4-1
I might not have minded the whole forged bloody ace thing as much if Phoenix hadn't ranted so much in the first two games about how despicable it was that Edgeworth and the von Karmas were willing to forge evidence to win their cases. Even if it's to catch Kristoph or teach Apollo a "lesson" or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that the pot's calling the kettle black. :yuusaku:



Spoiler: 2-4, 3-3, 4-1
There is a distinct difference though. Phoenix didn't use it as decisive evidence like the prosecutors had been doing. He used it to goad a response out of Kristoph and uncover his lies (And the trial goes on for a while afterward which it wouldn't had that card been decisive evidence. Phoenix was very careful in how he used it). It was not the card that got him in trouble as the card didn't point to Kristoph as the murderer by itself. What it did do was show everything Kristoph had lied about. Kristoph knew a bunch of things that he shouldn't have and the card made all those contradictions come out. Also, the card had been real and if Kristoph hadn't taken it, it would have been at the scene. He wasn't making up random evidence to incriminate Kristoph which was what had upset him so much in previous games. Phoenix created something that he was certain existed (logical deduction considering he knew the killer could only have gone through the secret entrance and the card was missing) so that the scene would fall into place correctly. Also in his position, he needed to prove that there had been a fourth person in the room or either he or Olga was going down for a murder neither committed.

Now that doesn't make what Phoenix did ethically okay. It's not and Phoenix doesn't even try to make that claim. He purposely goads Apollo into hitting him. I would argue that he wasn't being hypocritical though. It was a lose-lose situation and he had a limited number of viable choices. He was careful to keep everyone out of danger, so the only one who would be hurt by that card was Phoenix himself. It's not the first time Phoenix has stretched things to save a client (ex. the fake poisoned bottle at the end of 3-3). I should also point out that this was not Kristoph's trial, so the card wasn't being used to convict Kristoph. We know from the third game that the criminals fingered in court get their own trials (I imagine the confession would count in Kristoph's trial but according to PW/AJ logical, only the guilty confess. Ex. Adrian. Remember Phoenix presses on with the trial because he's confused why she didn't confess if she was guilty). That was one of the big things Phoenix had a problem with. Using forged evidence to convict someone, but that wasn't what he did. Phoenix wasn't making up evidence because it suited him, but creating a copy of something that had existed and he wasn't using as decisive evidence to convict Kristoph. It wasn't decisive evidence and it wasn't used to send him to jail.

Phoenix also never claimed that the card was real. He doesn't lie. Kristoph screamed that the card was fake and Phoenix never denies it. He simply asked Kristoph how he knew. Kristoph could have chosen to call Phoenix on it and admit he was the murderer or he could try to outsmart Phoenix and get away with his crime. Kristoph chose the latter option, but he did have a choice. The point was that the correct murderer would have been caught and Kristoph wouldn't pin it on an innocent person. If Kristoph hadn't known things he shouldn't have and then had to lie to cover it up, the card would not have been a problem for him because it didn't point directly to him (And I'm not convinced Phoenix would have used it. It was only after Kristoph was looking really guilty that Phoenix handed it off to Apollo). You don't have to like Phoenix's choice, even Phoenix didn't like his choice, but what he did wasn't the same thing as what he had gotten upset about in previous games.

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Not to mention I could never imagine him playing poker - let alone be any good at it. I mean, the guy can't even keep a straight face.

I agree that Nick has a terrible poker head and I can't imagine him playing poker AT ALL, but replaying the games I have found a few poker references. In the second game (?) he says something like "I know when I've been dealt a bad hand" and stuff like that.

It wasn't that :hobohodo:-Nick sucked so much as poker-/piano-player-Nick sucked. I could deal with his character, but it was the little things like that that made his character irritating (but I still think he's kinda cool).
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One problem with what Pheonix did is that he turned his own testimony (That there was a bloddy ace there) into evidence. The defendent made his testimony into fact.

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...but according to PW/AJ logical, only the guilty confess. Ex. Adrian.


1-4 and 1-5 disagree with that.

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I know what you mean, but I'm actually talking more about when you get to play as him in the last case. Especially in the past. While the seven years might have explained the way he thinks/acts in the "present", considering the fact that the flashback takes place two months after 3:5, I think they really messed up his character. No one can change that much in two months. It's just ridiculous. Not to mention I could never imagine him playing poker - let alone be any good at it. I mean, the guy can't even keep a straight face. And they even go as far as contradicting themselves by making Klavier read him like an open book in the trial. There's so many things that make no sense in this game, it's not even funny.


Spoiler: 4-4
How has he changed that much in two months? He gave everything, and I mean everything, to try to save his client and after all that he took in his client's abandoned daughter. Certainly sounds like our Phoenix. As for poker, what were the two things that Phoenix always had on his side which is reiterated repeatedly in the previous games? Luck and his ability to bluff. Those play a huge role in poker, so the big thing he would have to develop would be poker face, which wouldn't be that hard particularly over the course of seven years. Besides, if he didn't have at least a half decent poker face already then he wouldn't have gotten away with so many bluffs in court. Yes, Klavier can read him a few times, but that only goes along with the fact that he hadn't fully developed his poker face as that would come later over time. Phoenix has always been resilient and he learns quickly. The set up for the poker playing was always there, but it wasn't needed while he was still a lawyer. After he lost his badge, he fell back on his other skills to make a living for himself and his new daughter. I honestly don't see where this becomes hard to believe.


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...but according to PW/AJ logical, only the guilty confess. Ex. Adrian.


1-4 and 1-5 disagree with that.


Spoiler: 1-4, 1-5
Well Edgeworth believed he was guilty, so it doesn't count against the theory. In his mind, he had committed the crime. He did break because of his guilt, but he was just wrong about what had happened. Lana was guilty of a crime in the end as well, so you can't claim she was completely innocent. She just wasn't the murderer. She was being blackmailed to confess so the situation was rather very different from Kristoph. Besides, the final breakdown and full confession we get from the real murderers is very different from bursting out with an "I did it" and not going into the whys and hows of the case as all the true murderers do and Lana didn't.

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As for poker, what were the two things that Phoenix always had on his side which is reiterated repeatedly in the previous games? Luck and his ability to bluff. Those play a huge role in poker, so the big thing he would have to develop would be poker face, which wouldn't be that hard particularly over the course of seven years. Besides, if he didn't have at least a half decent poker face already then he wouldn't have gotten away with so many bluffs in court.

Over the course of the first three games it's mentioned several times that Phoenix isn't very good at disguising his emotions, and even if the other characters hadn't remarked upon it, it's still quite obvious. Plus, 9 times out of 10 Phoenix isn't actually bluffing -- it's just that what he's saying seems so wild that everyone thinks he's bluffing.
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Over the course of the first three games it's mentioned several times that Phoenix isn't very good at disguising his emotions, and even if the other characters hadn't remarked upon it, it's still quite obvious. Plus, 9 times out of 10 Phoenix isn't actually bluffing -- it's just that what he's saying seems so wild that everyone thinks he's bluffing.


And he got better at disguising his emotions over time, something that I think he would have had to learn quickly with a daughter who could read his every move. It is bluffing when he presses points and paints out scenarios without presenting evidence until finally forced to do so, which is what he does constantly in the previous games. Phoenix bluffs constantly and all the characters talk about his ability to bluff as well as referencing his luck at times.

Spoiler: a couple examples, 1-3, 1-4, 2-4, 3-3, 4-1
Accuses Oldbag of murder, cross-examines a bird (The fact that his luck held and it worked doesn't mean he wasn't bluffing. He had a hunch, but when asked to even begin the cross-examination, he was lost. He had no idea how to begin dealing with the situation, but needed something to keep the trial from ending), accuses Adrian of murder the second time to buy time as well as telling De Killer that he knew what was on that tape (Again, he suspected, but he didn't know for a fact what was on that tape. It was a well-designed bluff to get to De Killer), chasing the whole empty guitar case being a big point, and presents the medicine as poison in 3-3. Those are only a few examples. What works for Phoenix is that he bluffs, but his luck holds out and it works. That doesn't change the fact that he is only bluffing when he begins these things. Pretty much every lead he chases in his cases begins in a "I don't know where I'm going with this" or "I hope this works." It's the interplay between bluffing and luck that lets him succeed... just like poker.

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Spoiler: a couple examples, 1-3, 1-4, 2-4, 3-3, 4-1
Accuses Oldbag of murder, cross-examines a bird (The fact that his luck held and it worked doesn't mean he wasn't bluffing. He had a hunch, but when asked to even begin the cross-examination, he was lost. He had no idea how to begin dealing with the situation, but needed something to keep the trial from ending), accuses Adrian of murder the second time to buy time as well as telling De Killer that he knew what was on that tape (Again, he suspected, but he didn't know for a fact what was on that tape. It was a well-designed bluff to get to De Killer), chasing the whole empty guitar case being a big point, and presents the medicine as poison in 3-3. Those are only a few examples. What works for Phoenix is that he bluffs, but his luck holds out and it works. That doesn't change the fact that he is only bluffing when he begins these things. Pretty much every lead he chases in his cases begins in a "I don't know where I'm going with this" or "I hope this works." It's the interplay between bluffing and luck that lets him succeed... just like poker.


Very good point. Phoenix is always the lucky one(expect in his last trail...T-T), even in GS4, he was still lucky enough to survive from a serious car accident. :redd:

Maybe it's not a good thing to Nick, but still fun to see him turning about the case at the very endXD
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I admit, I was such a pansy when I saw :hobohodo: that I practically cried when he talked to Apollo. At first, I felt like I was talking to a complete stranger and I hated it. However, I realized that his character really reflected what he had been through (not to mention that I couldn't read his thoughts anymore, which bothered me because it was like my daily dose of laughter). I still prefer lawyer Nick in a way :phoenix: because I just love reliving all those moments where his luck pulls a houdini for a sec, then goes, "Haha, gotcha! I'm right here!" and he wins the case complete with epic music and sound effects. For some reason, reading Apollo's thoughts don't give me as much entertainment (not to mention he thinks it's a ladder, not a STEP-ladder) as Phoenix's.

:cough: I lol'd alot when young Feenie was present; I had a hard time believing he was Nick, especially when he cried and
Spoiler: 3-1
Ate the locket that she-demon gave him :chinami: I swear I thought they were joking when they said he ate it. In fact, I was like, "lemme guess: you chewed it up, didn't ya?" when I knew it was true, I was just :eh?:


but yea, although I prefer lawyer Nick in a way, all of the different "Nicks" are just all lovable facets of the one and only Phoenix Wright ----> except this guy :zenitora:
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