Phoenix in the next AJ games?
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Everill wrote:
Phoenix should come back to law but as the new prosecutor in GS5 <_<
No. Just no.
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Everill wrote:
Phoenix should come back to law but as the new prosecutor in GS5 <_<
No.
Would be a shitty prosecutor.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Phoenix regaining his badge would be a good reason for the "tutorial" case in GS5 (he'd be rusty after so many years and need a little help getting back into things and so on). Then he and Apollo could alternate on taking cases or something.
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Black suit + sky-blue tie Phoenix ftw.
I'd actully like to see him in a black and light green suit. take off the beanie, but keep some of the facial whiskers. That would make him the king of bad-assery, wether he becomes an attorney or just gets a job within the court system.
As I stated in another topic, I'd love to see his new attitude in court.
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Errr... w-well... you see...
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I stated in another topic, I'd love to see his new attitude in court.
Prosecution, this is highly important evidence! How could you have missed this?!
Errr... w-well... you see...
Too busy whipping detectives and witnesses again Franny?
F-FOOL! *whips Phoenix multiple times*
...I missed that. ^ ^
Prosecution, this is highly important evidence! How could you have missed this?! Errr... w-well... you see... Too busy whipping detectives and witnesses again Franny? F-FOOL! *whips Phoenix multiple times* ...I missed that. ^ ^...That would be so cool! Makes me happy just thinking about it. :)
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Phoenix looks good in black IMO (even if it is just a hoodie XD). A jet-black suit would look killer, if you ask me.Actually, I would really like to see Lana Skye's return. Not as Chief Prosecutor, but maybe just a regular prosecutor, reuniting with Phoenix and her sister. I miss Lana.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Phoenix regaining his badge would be a good reason for the "tutorial" case in GS5 (he'd be rusty after so many years and need a little help getting back into things and so on). Then he and Apollo could alternate on taking cases or something.
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And Polly takes the stand next to him, as a mentor.XD
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And Polly takes the stand next to him, as a mentor.XD
No, 26-year old Maya would have to make her triumphant return as Phoenix's partner. :D It would be neat to see what Maya looks like after 7 years.
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Writer Awakened wrote:
No, 26-year old Maya would have to make her triumphant return as Phoenix's partner. :D It would be neat to see what Maya looks like after 7 years.
I think most guys would enjoy seeing that. Prowr. =^ ^= </normal guy>
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Writer Awakened wrote:
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And Polly takes the stand next to him, as a mentor.XD
No, 26-year old Maya would have to make her triumphant return as Phoenix's partner. :D It would be neat to see what Maya looks like after 7 years.
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No, 26-year old Maya would have to make her triumphant return as Phoenix's partner. :D It would be neat to see what Maya looks like after 7 years.
I must admit I really only want to see the old characters again if they are going to play an actual role in the game. Shoving them in because people are whining about their absence will make me cry. Also, having to play another case where Maya needs to be saved again will make me cry as well. I don't mind them being referenced in the game, but there isn't really any need for all the old characters to come parading through and take away more focus from the new stars. Having Phoenix there is plenty as far as I'm concerned. If they can fit the old characters in without drawing focus from the new ones and managing to incorporate them in the game in a way that doesn't feel forced (as I thought they managed to do with Phoenix in this game for the most part, although Phoenix did draw a bit too much attention away from Apollo), then I'd be okay with it I suppose, but otherwise they're fine where they are.
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On the other hand, I would give a year's salary to watch
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And why would Maya need saving again? I would think Maya would be bailing Phoenix out of a few situations if she came back :P Also, it would be really interesting to see 16-year old Pearl.
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The point is, though the story eventually hits a deep and emotional turn near each ending, trilogy or single game (so far), somehow the story stays simple in the areas we usually wish would go deeper. I have no idea how, but somehow the story remains awesome and amazing, yet is never how we think it will be.
I think Phoenix will remain in his hobo form and probably won't even be in charge of trial arrangements in the future because of how it usually turns out. But as for what I wish would happen, I would love to see him be an attorney again.
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But a lot of people have become attached to the old characters, and it doesn't seem right to just sweep them all under the rug. I mean, I put three games' worth of emotional investment in the PW arc characters, especially the main characters, and it would at least be neat to see how they turned out.
And why would Maya need saving again? I would think Maya would be bailing Phoenix out of a few situations if she came back :P Also, it would be really interesting to see 16-year old Pearl.
And why would Maya need saving again? I would think Maya would be bailing Phoenix out of a few situations if she came back :P Also, it would be really interesting to see 16-year old Pearl.
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But the game is supposed to be about the new characters who are awesome too and its not fair for them to be pushed to the background without getting their chance to shine just because some people can't let go (not pointed at you here, just a general observation). As I said, if the characters can be fit in without drawing attention from the new stars and actually fit into the game, then so be it, but adding the old characters in without a solid reason just doesn't work. There isn't any indication that those characters are gone even if they don't physically show up. Maya needs saving because she always does. She's in as game, then we have to save her and that annoyed me. She was never really been able to do more to help Phoenix then call Mia and Phoenix doesn't need Mia anymore. I'm going to cry if the new characters get pushed further into the background. They need more development, not less. Let's give the new a shot.
Pearl is probably with Maya at Kurain, which is what she would have wanted considering how much she worshipped Maya. I don't doubt that they see Phoenix, but I don't need to see them together to believe that they still see each other. The text certainly suggests he's still in contact with his old friends.
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Mia_Fey wrote:
But the game is supposed to be about the new characters who are awesome too and its not fair for them to be pushed to the background without getting their chance to shine just because some people can't let go (not pointed at you here, just a general observation). As I said, if the characters can be fit in without drawing attention from the new stars and actually fit into the game, then so be it, but adding the old characters in without a solid reason just doesn't work. There isn't any indication that those characters are gone even if they don't physically show up. Maya needs saving because she always does. She's in as game, then we have to save her and that annoyed me. She was never really been able to do more to help Phoenix then call Mia and Phoenix doesn't need Mia anymore. I'm going to cry if the new characters get pushed further into the background. They need more development, not less. Let's give the new a shot.
Pearl is probably with Maya at Kurain, which is what she would have wanted considering how much she worshipped Maya. I don't doubt that they see Phoenix, but I don't need to see them together to believe that they still see each other. The text certainly suggests he's still in contact with his old friends.
Pearl is probably with Maya at Kurain, which is what she would have wanted considering how much she worshipped Maya. I don't doubt that they see Phoenix, but I don't need to see them together to believe that they still see each other. The text certainly suggests he's still in contact with his old friends.
Oh, I definitely agree that we do need to focus on the new characters, but since the game's set in the same universe (and takes place in the old Wright and Co. Law Offices), the developers almost have an obligation to at least tell the series' long-time fans what happened to their old friends. Having Phoenix without a (visible) Maya is like having Bullwinkle without Rocky. XD. I'd feel sorta cheated watching Phoenix, Maya, and Pearl slowly grow closer for three games and then all of a sudden see Phoenix on his own with only Trucy. There has to be a way to appease long-time fans while at the same time developing the new characters. And saying Maya always needs saving is a bit of an exaggeration-- I would argue that Maya was as important to Phoenix as he was to her, and I certainly don't think that the only thing Maya was good for was Mia, but I digress.
Anyway, I wholeheartedly agree that the new characters need more development (although Trucy has already endeared herself to me because she's awesome). I have a feeling with the emphasis on Phoenix in the last case and the emphasis on the title "Turnabout Succession", that the next game will probably focus more heavily on the new characters. So in that regard, I think we have a lot to look forward to.
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And Edgeworth I can easily see acting as a final boss at the end of GS5. You know that if Phoenix has Apollo, then he should have someone other the Klaviar as his rival. As for Wright, I can see him going back into law, not so much to be a lawyer, but more as a mentor to Apollo, and show him what he can do. And having Feenie (sorry couldn't help it) as the tutorial would be a good quick way to get a handle on the new system.
Those are my two cents anyway.
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Or really, anything that makes Phoenix look not as high and mighty in Apollo's eyes, like Maya teasing him or something.
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This whole argument about having characters from the old cast coming back and overshadowing the newbies doesn't make much sense. It's kind of like saying having Larry and Maggey come back in T&T took the focus away from Dahlia, the DeLites, Tigre, Godot, etc.
If the new characters are any good, there shouldn't be any concern about the old crew hogging the spotlight.
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That's what most newcomers are going to end up doing now anyway. How many people are going to get into the Ace Attorney series starting with Apollo Justice, and then not want to go back to the first three games to see why this "Phoenix Wright" guy was such a big deal?
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Mia_Fey wrote:
I would love to see Phoenix become a lawyer again (Although he takes the mentor role now. It's Apollo's turn to shine). Wright and Justice Law Offices is too good to ignore.
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Mia_Fey wrote:
If the old characters play a minor role, then it wouldn't draw focus from the new characters, but a lot of people seem to want those characters back in a larger capacity like Maya as Phoenix's assistant again or Edgeworth prosecuting again. Then the game is going to have to spend time on developing those old characters again (its been seven-eight years and no one stands still during that much time, so the game will have to spend time on it).
Actually no one's said that they want Maya and the others back in a huge capacity, they just want them back to show some presents in the game. Yes people have moved on in 7 or 8 years, but at the same time one doesn't need to get a whole huge story out of it. We didn't have a day in the life of Miles Edgeworth in T&T, and we certainly didn't get everything that happened to Phoenix, so why not have a cameo in one or two cases. I don't see what the big problem is with the idea of reintroducing characters.
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Those characters don't require more development, but the new characters do. The lack of character development in this game seems to be a major source of criticism (and while I liked the game a lot, I must admit I hope to find out much more about the new main characters rather than spend that time redeveloping and altering old characters). As I said, I don't mind if they play a smaller role as a witness or something similar (with a short interlude on what's going in on their lives to make people happy), but to have them take part in the cases like they used to is going to take away from the time needed to develop the new characters.
This is also what the manga is for too. Yes I want to know more about the main characters too, but normally it's easier to establish things with older characters and quicker too. I don't think, if done properly, that it would distract from the new characters. It might actually add layers onto the one note characters that we've had in the past.
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Each game can only cover so much and things have to be prioritized. Small roles are fine if it doesn't feel forced, but a silly cameo without a purpose or a large role in the trial or investigation isn't going to end well in my opinion. I'm not even sure I want Phoenix defending again (I could live with it as a way to get through the tutorial case though). I want him to be a lawyer again, but I really would like to see him take a Mia-like position instead of anything bigger than that.
I agree on the tutorial case, and taking on Mia's role, also agree with teh idea that the game needs to be prioritized, however a cameo if treated properly can't be seen as silly. Forced ideas are ones that grow out of last minute changes, in this case I think Capcom's actually going to think before they do anything with Maya and Edgeworth. Both are fan favorites and they don't want to go upsetting the consumers.
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Amber Dextric wrote:
I agree on the tutorial case, and taking on Mia's role
I agree that this is the route Capcom should (and probably will) take regarding GS5, because I'm not sure how else it would work, but I'm kind of concerned about it.
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There are nicer ways to go about it, I'm sure, and it would be really stupid for Capcom to pull that kind of move on one of the most popular characters from the entire series, but that thought's always been at the back of my mind.
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Amber Dextric wrote:
I agree on the tutorial case, and taking on Mia's role
I agree that this is the route Capcom should (and probably will) take regarding GS5, because I'm not sure how else it would work, but I'm kind of concerned about it.
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There are nicer ways to go about it, I'm sure, and it would be really stupid for Capcom to pull that kind of move on one of the most popular characters from the entire series, but that thought's always been at the back of my mind.
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