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Author:  chazooma [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phoenix's Change in Personality

Honestly, I don't think it was REALLY OMFG drastic of a change. You mellow out with age pretty much naturally anyway, and just add that to his newfound liking for jokes, his hobo outfit, stubble, and the fact that he thinks things out more, the heart of his personality isn't that all much changed. He wants to find the truth, and he cares about the people close to him.

Spoiler:
The forged evidence in 4-1 was necessary. He realized he couldn't prove there was a 4th person unless that card was in the court record, since Kristoph took the real one anyway. He probably knew it would be super difficult for Kristoph to actually prove it was a fake, as only Phoenix and Kristoph knew that. He would've taken responsibility if it actually had come to that. That card was the decisive evidence needed to successfully convict Kristoph. There was a very large chance that either Olga or Phoenix would be convicted of murder if that card wasn't there. He wasn't proud of it (and deeply disappointed in himself), but if you were in his shoes, what would you have done? Make a forgery of a piece of evidence that really did exist and convict the real killer, or let the real killer run free without any sort of penalty, and have someone else thrown into the slammer for it? Terry Fawles was a sad case in itself. Being put on death row for a killing he did not commit. Would you like a repeat of a unjust verdict with fries?

That card was necessary, or else Kristoph would be getting away with it, and someone else would've taken the blame.

Author:  Tomoshibi Amatsu [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phoenix's Change in Personality

Croik wrote:
If nothing else, I still say Hobohodo is a definate improvement over sobbing baby Phoenix from 3-1. >.>


Indeed. I don't understand why people don't like Hobohodou. I mean he's pretty much the same Phoenix from what I can tell. Same sarcastic wit and everything. Truth be told I see none of these differences people keep trying to point out about him.

Author:  Carmelita [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:13 pm ]
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Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
I don't understand why people don't like Hobohodou. I mean he's pretty much the same Phoenix from what I can tell. Same sarcastic wit and everything. Truth be told I see none of these differences people keep trying to point out about him.


This.

He's a bit more jaded, but still the same Nick. He's not the naive attorney he was in the first three games. That's really the only difference. After what happened to him, it's a change I can understand.

With that said I prefer naive Nick, but I still like HoboNick a lot. :hobohodo:

Author:  Tomoshibi Amatsu [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phoenix's Change in Personality

If anything HoboNick represents Nick's prime as far as his attorney skills go. What with him being less naive and all. He's practically everything Mia was when she was Phoenix's mentor. I feel he's going to be a great mentor to Apollo.

Author:  Carmelita [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phoenix's Change in Personality

Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
If anything HoboNick represents Nick's prime as far as his attorney skills go. What with him being less naive and all. He's practically everything Mia was when she was Phoenix's mentor. I feel he's going to be a great mentor to Apollo.


Agreed. :hobohodo:

Author:  J-Head [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:36 am ]
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Just a thought on the "making Apollo use forged evidence" thing: Maybe, since the right guy was convicted in the end, Phoenix wanted to make Apollo realize first-hand why he (Phoenix) had done what we had. Perhaps this served to humble Apollo a bit when he inevitably found out about Phoenix's motive. To quote 1-3, "For great justice." Of course, that depends on how you define "justice." I personally believe justice (in a legal sense) is a product of due process of truth, in which case I wouldn't think Phoenix's pragmatic actions actually serve to establish "great justice," but I am digressing.

Author:  Tomoshibi Amatsu [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phoenix's Change in Personality

Yeah well considering the court system is set up to protect criminals through them being able to easily frame other people for their crimes by the evidence I think Phoenix's method in 4-1 was great justice.

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