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The likelihood of justis being Kira is 32.42164027659067947168056%

I just saw the last episode, it was MINDFUCKING.
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Yaragorm wrote:
The likelihood of justis being Kira is 32.42164027659067947168056%

That's not how probability works.
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Hmmm... shall we agree it's 5/7, then? XD
I'm putting together an L cosplay for Halloween (early, I know) and I wondered if anyone had any suggestions as to how I should do the hair? Preferably, I'd use temporary hair dye and backcomb, but I've heard that temporary dye takes ages to fade out. Any ideas?
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Hmmm... shall we agree it's 5/7, then? XD

That's still not how probability works..!

The probability that justis is Kira is 0 or 1. Previously, the probability that he will become Kira might have been 1/3 or 5/7, but right now he either is or isn't, meaning it's either a 0% or 100%.

(Simpler analogy: You toss a coin in the air, then cover it when it lands on your wrist. If you call the coin heads while it's still in the air, you have a 50% chance of calling it correct. If you call the coin heads once it's on your wrist and covered, the probability that you're right is 0% or 100%, since it either actually is heads or isn't; however, you can't know if you called it right until you reveal it.
Simpler explanation: The probability that an event will occur can be anywhere from 0 to 1, but the probability that an event has occurred is 0 or 1.)
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That's actually given me some inspiration for one of my Death Note fanfics ^_^ Thanks, BP!
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What? Me? Kira?
Pfft, don't be silly. Now then, what do you say we post our pics and real names, not so I can kill you to keep you quiet or anything, because that would be silly, just so we could...er...get to know each other better! Yes, that! Come on now, everybody! I'm not going to kill you with a death note or anything...
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An excellent idea.... but if you think we're that stupid, then L's diabetic XD
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PandaPrinzessin wrote:
An excellent idea.... but if you think we're that stupid, then L's diabetic XD

What if he's also suicidal? :yuusaku:
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I'm nearing the end of the anime- currently on Episode 35.... and I don't really like the direction it's going in.

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Is it just me or is EVERYONE dying? L, Mello, Matt, Soichiro, Light.... the list goes on! Also does Matt appear for longer in the manga, 'cuz he was only in the anime for about two minutes or less before being killed off and I figured that couldn't be enough to spring all those Matt/Mello shippers. Could it?

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I just read several volumes' worth in one sitting, haven't watched the anime or read anything else, just approximately the first half of the manga or so. Get ready for a tidal wave of unsolicited opinions and thoughts.

This has already been said many times, but
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when L died, I felt like something inside me died, especially when I saw that detailed two-page illustration of him falling from his chair onto the floor. The artist really wrung all possible emotion out of that moment with little touches like the full panel spotlighting the spoon that fell out of L's hand, for example. Even before L died, though, I got bored with the direction the story was going in with the Yotsuba mini-arc, it just felt like a distraction from the real drama of L and the police vs. Light (but that's just me, I liked the beginning better, what can I say?).

I think it's actually funny the way Light and L's respective appearances and natures contrast with each other. Light is the archetypal handsome, all around good guy, but he's really got a serious problem, considering he thinks he's qualified to pass judgment on mankind as a whole and become the world's "god." L, in stark contrast, has to have been purposely designed to (at least initially) alarm/repel people due to his appearance. Don't get me wrong, I love L as a character (and I even like how he looks), but you've gotta admit, the wide-open, darkly lined eyes, the wild black hair, the way he kinda slouches when standing (which isn't often) and crouches when sitting, it's all calculated to make a disinterested observer think, "This guy seems kind of flaky." In reality, of course, he's Light's foil, just as intelligent and calculating, but determined to stop Light because "the good guys always win." I think that moment in the manga was why I was so upset that L died. The majority of the time he seems rather detached, but when he said that (and even smiled), how could I not love him? I believe he really cared about stopping Light, I don't think he just thought of Light as a worthy intellectual opponent.

On that note (no pun intended), I thought the cat-and-mouse mind games early on between Light and L really got convoluted and difficult to keep up with, but I guess that was the point, eh?

I haven't actually read the conclusion (though I know generally what happens), but I will at some point. I won't lie, though, L's death really eliminated my emotional investment, excluding my extreme sympathy for Soichiro Yagami. I mean, Light dies, hooray, the pathologically disturbed bastard has finally bitten it...but L is still gone. :sadshoe:

I guess I can always hope he made it to heaven.


By the way, I think someone was speculating about what nothingness would be like. I've actually thought about this (because the idea has come up in other forms of fiction I've experienced), and I came to the conclusion that it literally wouldn't feel like anything because, quite simply, if you no longer exist, there is no you to feel anything. Therefore, you could say the threat of nonexistence is much more powerful to those still here, and more of a punishment for the survivors than for those on whom it is actually inflicted. That's certainly not to say I wouldn't care if I didn't exist, I'm just saying if it actually happened, I wouldn't be around to care. If I just explained nothing that wasn't obvious to everyone, excuse me.
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My friend and i, had this really funny encounter watching death note. ok,

We were watching the last episode of DN and spongebob was playing in the background and so Light haf just died and it was silent for a second or two and just after he dies Patrick from spongebob starts laughing really hard and you can just imagine theway it sounds light just died then patrick starts laughing...it was funny. you had to be there.
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Sounds very surreal... :udgy: :lana: :gregory: :eh?: :payne: :beef: :shoe:

...if you know what I mean.
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I hate to have to remind you, but PLEASE use the spoiler tag! Anyone who read the last two posts without having seen the whole anime would have had the ending totally wrecked.

And it'd be interesting to know what Mu was like. I guess it'd be better than hell- no fire and such- but really you'd just be bored for all eternity.

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And I bet Light would get so pissed off doing absolutely nothing XD Like "AGGHHHHH, my brain is DYING!" bored...

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PandaPrinzessin wrote:
I hate to have to remind you, but PLEASE use the spoiler tag! Anyone who read the last two posts without having seen the whole anime would have had the ending totally wrecked.

Spoiler: Meh
Doesn't Ryuk say he's going to kill Light with his Death Note near the very beginning? So saying that Light dies really shouldn't be a spoiler.

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Bad Player wrote:
PandaPrinzessin wrote:
I hate to have to remind you, but PLEASE use the spoiler tag! Anyone who read the last two posts without having seen the whole anime would have had the ending totally wrecked.

Spoiler: Meh
Doesn't Ryuk say he's going to kill Light with his Death Note near the very beginning? So saying that Light dies really shouldn't be a spoiler.


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He actually says that IF Light should die while in possession of the Death Note, Ryuk would be the one to kill him, by writing his name in his Death Note.


@Panda:

Spoiler: Spoiler just in case
Mu wouldn't be anything at all. In DN37, it's clearly stated that Mu is nothingess. Therefore, there's no Mu, since Mu is nothing. So, saying "they go to Mu" means "they don't go anywhere". I think.

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He actually says... Ryuk would be the one to kill him, by writing his name in his Death Note.

:lana:



(that's close enough)
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
Sounds very surreal... :udgy: :lana: :gregory: :eh?: :payne: :beef: :shoe:

...if you know what I mean.



Nope. i dont rite now. You're going to have to be more specific than that when you talk to me. ( not in a mean way)
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walterlikeschips wrote:
shadowofedgeworth wrote:
Sounds very surreal... :udgy: :lana: :gregory: :eh?: :payne: :beef: :shoe:

...if you know what I mean.



Nope. i dont rite now. You're going to have to be more specific than that when you talk to me. ( not in a mean way)


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I just meant I bet it would be very odd/hilarious to hear Patrick laughing hard right after Light dies.

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Well, I just took the "Which Death Note Character are You?" quiz, and, unsurprisingly, I've learned that I'm most like L.
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Well, I just took the "Which Death Note Character are You?" quiz, and, unsurprisingly, I've learned that I'm most like L.


Hey, I got L too!
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Dear God, I'm L as well 0_o Surprisingly. I totally thought I'd be Matsuda XD
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I also got L. Guess he's relatable to a lot of people XD
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justis76 wrote:
Well, I just took the "Which Death Note Character are You?" quiz, and, unsurprisingly, I've learned that I'm most like L.


I got L by answering honestly, but I really think I would be like Light. Except the "God" part. It would be appealing to me, but I wouldn't go that far.
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I got Misa. :P

I don't get why though.
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justis76 wrote:
Well, I just took the "Which Death Note Character are You?" quiz, and, unsurprisingly, I've learned that I'm most like L.


I got L. Even though I don't really think I'm like him in anyway other than sitting weird (only at home) and liking sweets( sadly doesn't stay skinny by doing so.) XD. I guess I'm more like him than I thought. :yuusaku:
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I got L too, meh. First I thought that would be great but after reading how many of you have the same result, it feels kinda depressing. =P

On another note (no pun intended) I recently started to read the manga "Bakuman" which is written and drawn by the guys who also did the Death Note manga. The story is about two guys who start to draw mangas in the hope of becoming wide known mangakas and to get their own anime.
They even made a little reference to Death Note in there:

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It's not really anything like their previous work but still enjoyable. Though, one of the protagonists is sitting like L sometimes.
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I'm definitely more of an L character than any of the other DN characters...If not L, then probably Light.
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I took it again and I got L this time. Must be because I like to sit staring at a screen a lot.
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Man, I prefer Light, but well, each to his own.
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Umm... am I the only one here who's favorite character is actually Mello? Just wondering...
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I hate Mello, he helped Light lose.

Misa was actually my favorite character.
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Yeah, Misa's one of my favorites, too. I mean, she's so innocent. Although it's sad Light never really liked her.

My super, super favorite, though, is most definitely Ryuk.
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The probability that justis is Kira is 0 or 1. Previously, the probability that he will become Kira might have been 1/3 or 5/7, but right now he either is or isn't, meaning it's either a 0% or 100%.


Bad Player: I'm shocked, shocked that you'd make such an oversimplification! If you don't know whether or not a statement is true, and nobody present knows, you can certainly assign a non-unity probability to it. We do this all the time, even if nobody likes to admit it; subjective probabilities are a powerful tool, especially if you do some Bayesian magic.

I bring this up because L's "35.3232% chance that Light is Kira" routine is a pretty good example of why it's silly to calculate subjective probabilities to more than one significant figure, even if it sounds kind of awesome and is good for throwing people off your scent.

In conclusion, all your Bayes are belong to us.
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My girlfriend just told me out of the blue that she's kinda into anime thanks to his big brother, and without knowing that I like it, she told me she's watching Death Note, and loving it. And she also brought up Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Death Note's even making her draw manga-style, and she does it very well. I mean VERY well, for a beginner.

I'm so turned on, guys.
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I started reading the manga before I actually started watching the anime...
But by the time I'd finished the manga, the series was almost half way over...so I watched the rest of the series and then bought the anime on dvd
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The probability that justis is Kira is 0 or 1. Previously, the probability that he will become Kira might have been 1/3 or 5/7, but right now he either is or isn't, meaning it's either a 0% or 100%.


Bad Player: I'm shocked, shocked that you'd make such an oversimplification! If you don't know whether or not a statement is true, and nobody present knows, you can certainly assign a non-unity probability to it. We do this all the time, even if nobody likes to admit it; subjective probabilities are a powerful tool, especially if you do some Bayesian magic.


Everyone will know what you mean if you say "There is a 35.3232% chance Light is Kira," but I'm just getting picky with synta. Technically, Light either is or isn't Kira, so the probability either is 0 or is 1. If you want to say something like "I am 35.3232% confident that Light is Kira" or "In approximately 353232 realities out of 1000000 Light will be Kira" that's fine, but the actual probability that Light is Kira is 0 or 1. (And depending on your situation, you can't know if it's 0 or 1. But that's why you have confidence intervals and levels and percents and such. And I felt like getting overly picky with syntax only because it's a Death Note thread :P)

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I remember watching Death Note.Good show and an original premise.Not only that it also had the greatest OST in the world.Gothic,dark,suspenful.Also bonus points for Light Yagami for being evil. :karma:
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Watched. T_T'ed in the end.
I wish I had a death note. There are four hundred people in the Ukrainian government, and their names have to be in it. Honestly, I'd rather prefer killing politicans than bad guys. Because they're much worse.
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Watched. T_T'ed in the end.
I wish I had a death note. There are four hundred people in the Ukrainian government, and their names have to be in it. Honestly, I'd rather prefer killing politicans than bad guys. Because they're much worse.


Seconded. Politicians have messed up this world since day one, and if somebody with a Death Note was ready to kill them, I'd probably point them in the general direction of politicians.
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