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This topic is gonna be about the moments where Phoenix/Apollo proceed through the events of the game out of pure luck. You can discuss whether it was actually luck or not, or what would have happened if they didn't have that much luck.
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Phoenix wouldn't have won 1-2 if Mia didn't come out of nowhere and helped him.

Sometimes, the enemy has luck. You can also write about that.

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Everytime you are going to lose and then someone other than Phoenix or Apollo objects and saves the day :phoenix:
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Spoiler: 2-4
2-4's good ending. 2 names. Dick Gumshoe and Fransiska Von Karma. 'Nuff said.

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Spoiler: 2-4
2-4's good ending. 2 names. Dick Gumshoe and Fransiska Von Karma. 'Nuff said.

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While 1-2 may be a DEM at the time, it's kind of negated by spirit channeling being Maya's thing =\

1-1: Cindy going to France, forgetting to change her clock
1-2: Mia just happening to buy that vase right before the murder, it falling over
1-3: Cody saw the Steel Samurai lose, a little bit of Mr. Monkey toppling
1-4: Lotta having a camera set up (as they needed the photos, not just the testimony), the power coming on just when everyone loses consciousness, everyone conveniently having memory loss
1-5: The glove just happened to be in the safe, Gant was able to get out of the police station with no one noticing, Angel was there to witness the murder, the vase looking like the Blue Badger

2-1: Wellington guessing the wrong spelling of Maggey's name
2-2: Grey having a gun and shooting at the perfect angle to get the bullet hole in the sleeve and basket, Pearl breaking the urn, Ini being too stupid to burn all of Maya's outfit
2-3: Everything. Absolutely everything. I'm too lazy to type it all out.
2-4: Franzy and Gummy appearing at the last moment, Matt video taping De Killer, De Killer unquestionably believing Phoenix without even hearing Matt's side of the story

3-1: Doug noticing the connection between Dahlia and poison disappearing, the cables being brittle, the umbrella falling where it did, meeting Phoenix in the reading room
3-2: Atmey's slip-up in his testimony, Larry leaving the security guard office, Adrian breaking the urn
3-3: Glen winning the lottery, Kudo being the witness, no one else entering the restuarant at that time, Tigre not being able to come up with a simple explanation at the end (he found out what the real poison bottle was when he pretended to be Maggey's attorney... which he did out of boredom :D)
3-4: Valerie only having a blue scarf on hand, the rain
3-5: The lightning. Just gonna leave it at that >_>

4-1: Zak trying to beat Phoenix randomly after returning out of the blue, Phoenix finding the card, Kristoph having that one little slip-up
4-2: The bullet landing exactly where it did in Wocky, Stickler breaking Pal's car, Pal being too stupid to tell Alita was unconscious instead of dead, Alita waking up at that exact moment, and Wocky being too stupid to realize he didn't kill Pal
4-3: Romein staying alive just long enough for Polly to hear his last words (which weren't "torpedo-hair killed me" :nick: )
4-4: Drew not having any other stamps, inviting Sparky over on that particular night
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4-3: Romein staying alive just long enough for Polly to hear his last words (which weren't "torpedo-hair killed me" :nick: )


Really, all he had to say was "Dick-head" ...Man, interpol agents are dumb. XDD

:beard: d-dickhead...
:apollo-shock: What did you just call me???
:beard: *dead*
:think-think-think: Well thats just great...
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Every time Dick Gumshoe runs in just in time to save Phoenix and Maya from a violent, painful death.
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Bad Player wrote:
1-5: The glove just happened to be in the safe, Gant was able to get out of the police station with no one noticing, Angel was there to witness the murder, the vase looking like the Blue Badger

What would have happened if the vase didn't look like the Blue Badger?

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3-2: Atmey's slip-up in his testimony, Larry leaving the security guard office, Adrian breaking the
...urn.

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Nothing about AAI or anything.

Yeah, something about that Phoenix guy.

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aw, I'm bored, and I was so close. Oh well.

Aww, please do the last three too!

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1-5: Ema's drawing would've been different. I'm not sure what would have happened if the vase hadn't looked like the BB, since I don't know what her picture wouldn't been like.
3-2: The urn >_>

fine, fine.. I'll edit in the others
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STOOOOOOP POOOOOSTING SPOOOOOOILERS FOR AAI IN THE DEFEEEEEENSE LOOOOOOOOBY
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Since it has yet to be specifically mentioned, Gumshoe's appearence in 1-3.

Phoenix and Maya would definitely be dead right about now.
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And, of course, Gumshoe's appearance in 3-3, when he saved you in the Trés Bien.
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Croik wrote:
STOOOOOOP POOOOOSTING SPOOOOOOILERS FOR AAI IN THE DEFEEEEEENSE LOOOOOOOOBY

My oopsie :oops:


Pixl, you should probably take out the quoted AAI-1 spoiler then...
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Okay, I edited it. Please don't hurt me, Croik.

Spoiler: 3-5
If Godot didn't get wounded, you wouldn't have any proof.
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Bad Player wrote:
2-3: Everything. Absolutely everything. I'm too lazy to type it all out.


2-3 is actually an incredibly unlucky case, because if things hadn't happened exactly the way they happened, Max would never have come under suspicion in the first place.
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Icarus wrote:
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2-3: Everything. Absolutely everything. I'm too lazy to type it all out.


2-3 is actually an incredibly unlucky case, because if things hadn't happened exactly the way they happened, Max would never have come under suspicion in the first place.


Yet, doesn't that make it an incredibly lucky case? Lucky for Phoenix, that is.
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OniXera wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
2-3: Everything. Absolutely everything. I'm too lazy to type it all out.


2-3 is actually an incredibly unlucky case, because if things hadn't happened exactly the way they happened, Max would never have come under suspicion in the first place.


Yet, doesn't that make it an incredibly lucky case? Lucky for Phoenix, that is.


Maybe lucky for Acro that the heat was thrown onto somebody else, but I don't know how you can possibly call Phoenix lucky for having to suffer through 2-3.
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Icarus wrote:
OniXera wrote:
Icarus wrote:
2-3 is actually an incredibly unlucky case, because if things hadn't happened exactly the way they happened, Max would never have come under suspicion in the first place.


Yet, doesn't that make it an incredibly lucky case? Lucky for Phoenix, that is.


Maybe lucky for Acro that the heat was thrown onto somebody else, but I don't know how you can possibly call Phoenix lucky for having to suffer through 2-3.


It was a yaoi joke, haha. No, but what happened with Acro was actually pretty lucky. The entire case was pretty much based upon speculation and accusations until the very, very end, when something finally clicked.
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Oh, I also forgot, in 4-4, Phoenix getting the Jurist System up and running just in time for Vera's trial.
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Spoiler: Case 1-2
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If only Phoenix wasn't late.. DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
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And of course:

Spoiler: WHOLE SERIES OH MY GAWD
DL-6.
Just...DL-6.
If the gun didn't fire all by itself when Miles threw it, Manfred wouldn't have got hit, Gregory wouldn't have died, Misty wouldn't have channeled him, she never would have left the Fey family, Redd White wouldn't have destroyed her life and he wouldn't have killed Mia, Maya would still have met Nick but maybe they wouldn't be partners, cases involving Maya wouldn't have happened, Godot would still have his girlfriend, Edgey would be a defense attorney, many criminals probably wouldn't have gone to jail. Wow.
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Essa_L_M.E wrote:
Bad Player wrote:

4-3: Romein staying alive just long enough for Polly to hear his last words (which weren't "torpedo-hair killed me" :nick: )


Really, all he had to say was "Dick-head" ...Man, interpol agents are dumb. XDD

:beard: d-dickhead...
:apollo-shock: What did you just call me???
:beard: *dead*
:think-think-think: Well thats just great...

I died laughing XD

Anyway, also

2-2: Pearl can't spell "Ami" and put the urn back wrong (which also helped in 3-2)
2-4: Adrian happens to be a woman with an androgenous name, and nobody mentioned her gender when they were talking to DeKiller
3-2: Nick happened to feel around Luke Atmey's bag, which the urn happens to be in there
4-4: Kristoph's time bombs going off (ie Drew getting killed) right before the test run of Trial System

Multiple times that witnesses accidentally slipped up on the witness stand, like mumbling something that gives Nick a chance to press them further.

and the real culprit is always one of the witnesses testifying, the prosecution, the defense, or the client, and they all happen to be in the courtroom for the case.

I almost feel like it's the assistants who give Nick all the luck, 'cause the one time he didn't have one (4-4) his luck ran out :sadshoe:
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Spoiler: 4-2
Pal Meraktis not fully killing Alita, only making her unconscious. He was probably only a few extra seconds of strangulation away from him being on trial for her murder, instead of Wocky for his.
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Spoiler: 2-1
The whole case wouldn't have happened if Dustin didn't wear his uniform.

Spoiler: 1-3
Gumshoe saves your ass from the Mafia!

Spoiler: 3-3
Gumshoe saves your ass from The Tiger!
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1-4: Larry just going by the shack at that time of the night, hearing the gunshots, listening to the radio which implied the time. This is the lucky break that enabled Nick to beat Von Karma

2-3: Franziska doing surprise search on Acro's room, even she regrets it

3-5: Larry being in his shack waiting for Iris, and happened to see swinging corpse on a rope

4-3: Lamiroir going over the vent just at that right time, her broach falling
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Dark Coffee Drinker wrote:
Spoiler: 2-4
2-4's good ending. 2 names. Dick Gumshoe and Fransiska Von Karma. 'Nuff said.
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Spoiler: AJ Flashback, 4-4
Magnifi choosing to commit suicide right after Valant left the room, causing Valant to rearranging the scene causing Zak to be arrested.
Zak fleeing the courtroom. If that wasn't a stroke of luck...
Meekins being the baliff.
Zak seeing the "demon scar"
POKER. Nuff Said


Spoiler: 1-5
Speaking of Meekins, him not knowing Bruce Goodman's face, asking Jakeman to show his ID, Not seeing Jakeman's face, and of course, Jake's locker remaining the same one he onced used because of the fingerprint sensor.
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Replaying 1-4, and noticing:
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- Lotta blurting out she saw Edgeworth when Maya was grilling her (when Maya shouted out and was held in contempt of court)
- Lotta blurting out she enlarged the photo before von Karma cut her off
- Hammond shooting with his left hand in the photo Lotta took, and Edgeworth picking up his gun with his right hand.


Spoiler: 2-1
- Dustin being left-handed and Wellington used Dustin's right hand to write the name
- Wellington being near-sighted
- Yellow baseball gloves

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Bad Player wrote:
3-3: Glen winning the lottery, Kudo being the witness, no one else entering the restuarant at that time, Tigre not being able to come up with a simple explanation at the end (he found out what the real poison bottle was when he pretended to be Maggey's attorney... which he did out of boredom :D)


Great post, but two things:
1) You forgot Gumshoe's ninjary @ the end
2) I don't think Tigre did the attorney thing out of boredom, he just wanted her to have a really crappy attorney.
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There have been tons of moments like this throughout the series, but the one that comes to mind is in 2-4 when Franziska bursts into the courtroom with the decisive evidence just in time.
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16BitsQuaRed wrote:
2) I don't think Tigre did the attorney thing out of boredom, he just wanted her to have a really crappy attorney.

Bad Player knows that, he's just saying that "I did it out of boredom" would be an explanation as to why he acted like Phoenix Wright.
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DL-6. If Edgey had thrown the gun a second earlier, von Jackass wouldn't have been shot.
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