GK series official book

Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:09 am

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http://www.capcom.co.jp/gyakutenkenji/2/goods.html
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逆転検事～公式捜査記録～ Gyakuten Kenji Official Investigation Records
Sep. 20 2011
2,625yen
210mm x 297mm, 256pp

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Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:39 am

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Wow, thanks.

I hope they will publish an English version as well in the future, otherwise I have to import that great looking book.

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Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:01 am

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Lusankya wrote:

Wow, thanks.

I hope they will publish an English version as well in the future, otherwise I have to import that great looking book.

But then you couldn't read it?

Though it looks cool, is it just an artbook? Looks like there's a lot of writing in there as well and I do so love little bits of the artists ideas behind characters being explained :garyuu:

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Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:49 pm

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OOOO!! Darn that Capcom.

This seems tasty but at the risk of ruining the second game with looking at too much info, I'm going to have to pass.

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Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:31 pm

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Reminds me of the "Official Complete Works" they put out for the Megaman series. Thanks, JapaneseGIRL!

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Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:20 pm

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That's really awesome. Defiantly on my want to buy list of AA merch.

Oh and I forgot to mention LANG LOOKS REALLY SMEXY ON THAT COVER THERE :bellboy:

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:21 pm

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:29 pm

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Is anybody gonna buy the book and let us see all the pages online?

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:00 pm

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AnsweringNOW wrote:

Is anybody gonna buy the book and let us see all the pages online?

That's a pretty out-there suggestion...besides we should buy more to support Phoenix Wright and Ace Attorney. Capcom's attitude towards PW Vs Layton suggests they think there's not much interest in Phoenix Wright out here in the Western Hemisphere.

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:50 pm

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:13 pm

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Pierre wrote:

AnsweringNOW wrote:

Is anybody gonna buy the book and let us see all the pages online?

That's a pretty out-there suggestion...besides we should buy more to support Phoenix Wright and Ace Attorney. Capcom's attitude towards PW Vs Layton suggests they think there's not much interest in Phoenix Wright out here in the Western Hemisphere.

Actually, I think they do believe that, but are trying to test the grounds with Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3. You know, by putting Phoenix in it. Consider that MvC 3 is a western-oriented game, developed with recent western philosophies (DLC, redux version/s).

Things aren't looking nice for Ace Attorney in the West. The last game in the series, GK2, will not be localized for DS, and if it ends up being localized officially for whatever platform, it'll take a long time. And if Level-5 weren't handling PLvsAA, and it wasn't a crossover with such a best-selling franchise like Layton is, it would suffer the same fate. If Wright gets good reception from the western players of UMvC3, then things might look a bit differently. Quite differently, I hope.

Right now, I believe we are in the crucial turning point of the Ace Attorney series. Whatever happens this year and the next one, with Wright in UMvC3 and PLvsAA, will determine the series' entire fate. That means that what is at stake is the potential release of Gyakuten Kenji 2 outside Japan, the development of one Gyakuten Kenji 3 and the existence of the long-acclaimed, long-waited for Gyakuten Saiban 5 (as in, a proper continuation or conclusion to the Gyakuten Saiban saga). Let's hope it all goes for the best.

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:39 pm

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DeMatador wrote:

Pierre wrote:

AnsweringNOW wrote:

Is anybody gonna buy the book and let us see all the pages online?

That's a pretty out-there suggestion...besides we should buy more to support Phoenix Wright and Ace Attorney. Capcom's attitude towards PW Vs Layton suggests they think there's not much interest in Phoenix Wright out here in the Western Hemisphere.

Actually, I think they do believe that, but are trying to test the grounds with Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3. You know, by putting Phoenix in it. Consider that MvC 3 is a western-oriented game, developed with recent western philosophies (DLC, redux version/s).

Things aren't looking nice for Ace Attorney in the West. The last game in the series, GK2, will not be localized for DS, and if it ends up being localized officially for whatever platform, it'll take a long time. And if Level-5 weren't handling PLvsAA, and it wasn't a crossover with such a best-selling franchise like Layton is, it would suffer the same fate. If Wright gets good reception from the western players of UMvC3, then things might look a bit differently. Quite differently, I hope.

Right now, I believe we are in the crucial turning point of the Ace Attorney series. Whatever happens this year and the next one, with Wright in UMvC3 and PLvsAA, will determine the series' entire fate. That means that what is at stake is the potential release of Gyakuten Kenji 2 outside Japan, the development of one Gyakuten Kenji 3 and the existence of the long-acclaimed, long-waited for Gyakuten Saiban 5 (as in, a proper continuation or conclusion to the Gyakuten Saiban saga). Let's hope it all goes for the best.

I don't know DeMata...I think we're already past the cut off line with the lack of GK2's release over here. How can we show more support for the series if they are limiting the products released over here?

This book even is all Japanese based on the screenshots of the titles, they could easily just never release another Ace Attorney related product over here or ever again.

Plus I have a sneaking suspicion that regardless of how much interest there is in a series Capcom can ignore that and claim there wasn't enough interest. I think they tried to pull that stunt on the big Megaman Legends 3 fiasco where the fans were actively involved in ideas for the game. I mean it's not if people called them on lying about interest anything could be done about it.

The fate of Ace Attorney may have been sealed back around Apollo Justice's time for the West I fear.

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:48 pm

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Pierre: "How can we show more support for the series if they are limiting the products released over here?"

^ The truth. It has been spoken. :gregory:

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:57 pm

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I completely understand your points, Pierre. But consider this: there aren't a lot of big series in the US that get artbooks and everything released. We got two comic compilations in the US, that's gotta count as something! Yet we haven't been treated to most of the other promotional stuff, like the Turnabout Orchestra and Turnabout Jazz Soul records, for example. So the AA series can still do fine outside Japan without that much merchandising: it actually was quite fine until the AAI2 debacle. I know that we didn't think we would have to worry about the series' overseas future before we heard that GK2 would not be localized for western release. There were signs, like AAI's only-English european release, but none of them definitive as to say "AA is dead in the West". AAI2's release in the US and Europe can still happen in some other platform. And I believe that UMvC3 and PLvsAA are decisive into determining whether or not that happens. And AAI2's worldwide release might be crucial to Ace Attorney's overall future.

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Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:19 pm

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It's true the Miles Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright casebook files were both released over here but yet that's only a small fraction of the merchandise. I don't quite get your point, you acknowledge that there's still legions of merchandise we don't get, the musical editions and the like plus the Japanese only musicals and I imagine the live action movie will be Japanese only (though films are probably fine on an international market). Also the AAI2 incident isn't the only dangerous sign after all PLvsAA may have been voted most popular to be localised but that's no indication that Capcom will listen and approve the localistion. More concerning is the fact they weren't planning on localising such a monumental title from the get-go.

UMvC3 including Phoenix isn't....indicative of Capcom's belief in the success of the series and interest in it's ongoing life, it's a cameo of a well-loved character like Arthur's inclusion to me. They can look at the sales of UMvC3 and I doubt it's enough to make them reconsider AA's entire series after all there's plenty of other loved characters in there, Phoenix Wright may be a bit of a wild card in the bunch but if it sells well and Capcom still doesn't think that localising AA is profitable then I'm not sure they'll consider UMvC's sales as proof to continue the series when there's many other potential reasons for it's success.

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Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:31 am

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Pierre wrote:

More concerning is the fact they weren't planning on localising such a monumental title from the get-go.

See, that's the problem: you're misinformed. They never planned on localizing PLvsAA because they never had to do it. They aren't developing the game, Level-5 is. After conceding rights for the AA characters, Level-5 can do whatever they want with them in this game. If the game is localized or not, it's Level-5's decision. I doubt Capcom even has to approve of it.

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UMvC3 including Phoenix isn't....indicative of Capcom's belief in the success of the series and interest in it's ongoing life, it's a cameo of a well-loved character like Arthur's inclusion to me.

Let me invalid your argument in a couple points:

1. Arthur is a Capcom character since 1985, and is the main character of Capcom's 9th best-selling franchise (4,300,000 copies). Phoenix is a Capcom character since 2001, and is the main character of Capcom's 12th best-selling franchise (2,800,000 copies).

Conclusion: Arthur's a classic Capcom character and Phoenix is not, and Arthur's games sell better than Phoenix's.

2. The MegaMan series is Capcom's 2nd best-selling franchise (28,000,000 copies), and is Capcom's mascot since 1987. No version of MegaMan is in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 nor Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, due to low financial expectations of the MegaMan games (eg. MegaMan Legends 3). The Ace Attorney series is Capcom's 12th best-selling franchise (2,800,000 copies*). Phoenix Wright is in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, despite low financial perfomance of Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth and the lack of a localization for its sequel for low financial expectations.

*Note: 28,000,000 is ten times 2,800,000.

Conclusion: MegaMan and Ace Attorney are both in tough situations, yet Phoenix is in UMvC3 and MegaMan isn't. This shows that Capcom wants players to take MegaMan out of the spotlight, but want to highlight Phoenix.

Without even considering the fact that Arthur and MegaMan fight, yet Phoenix doesn't, so his inclusion is forced.

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Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:51 am

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Such a bummer, Japan gets all the luv :larry:

Buts still I can read basic Japanese :redd:

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Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:44 am

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See, that's the problem: you're misinformed. They never planned on localizing PLvsAA because they never had to do it. They aren't developing the game, Level-5 is. After conceding rights for the AA characters, Level-5 can do whatever they want with them in this game. If the game is localized or not, it's Level-5's decision. I doubt Capcom even has to approve of it.

Hmmm that does sound hopeful, didn't know that Capcom could do nothing once they approved Level-5's project. Are you really sure of that? It seems odd for something starring a Capcom character to be taken completely out of their hands I'd always assumed it was going to be a joint endeavour.

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Let me invalid your argument in a couple points:

Granted Arthur is classic that's true but the lack of a Megaman does not necessarily mean they are favouring Phoenix.
Furthermore Phoenix Wright's 'saga' is done with, Capcom moved onto Apollo Justice and then onto spin offs which they aren't even releasing here. Phoenix's inclusion may just be because of his well-known status and the fact Capcom seem to be 'dropping' Megaman.

Phoenix may be a rather out there release due to his...inexperience in combat but the point stands so long as they don't release anything out here, Capcom not Level-5, they may never continue Ace Attorney and Phoenix Wright might just join their 'classics' gallery.

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Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:46 pm

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Regardless of whether the book is localized, I'll try to grab a copy (I can't order directly off e-capcom Jp I don't think, but sometimes Play Asia gets this stuff). Not like CR doesn't have full scans of artbooks already :karate: