Lol it's OK...it's not just Apollo I have a problem with however. His character's OK, it's the theme of the game that he brought with him, that pillaged and plundered the AA I knew and loved.

It was my personal preference that his game should not have existed as it did. And trust me, that changed a lot; the cornered theme, the music, the objections and arguments (no really epic moments lol...), the humor, and most of the all the bland character interaction...from what little I remember I recall that the character interaction he had with people was abhorrent...i mean playing it I almost had to force myself through the game. The atmosphere was just terrible to me.

Also, what? This was never about Nick in the PW storyline, it's about him in this one; I agreed that the T&T series should have ended there; but they had to concoct some half-baked excuse that was completely retarded (I mean, really?) and utterly transparent (even the judge) which no one defended against (Zach fled, Phoenix was just being a passive tard) to remove him from service...I mean really? They completely defeated his character; no they not only did that, but there's no recovering it. You said that more PW games would turn him into fanservice? How about the AJ game turning him into the antithesis of everything fans wanted...it's bad enough they had to continue with Phoenix...worse that they had to set it seven years in the future, which meant that for those seven years...Phoenix was everything we didn't want him to be.

There's very little chance of retconning that, or leaving the story to the players' imaginations beyond it; that's kind of what good endings do; they resolve things nicely and leave the "happily ever after" to the imagination of the players; Apollo Justice tore up the fantastic ending to T&T and raped our beloved protagonist, meaning now we have to accept the cold hard fact that no one wants to accept; Phoenix lost his magnificent title to a transparent and silly hoax; he never tried to challenge sentence, and he's been a bum for the past...seven...years...without the other characters having seemed to have meaningful interaction with him. wtf. it's horrible.

/endrant