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I would personally love a flashback game

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By this I mean a game combining both Gyakuten Saiban AND Kenji. It would be based aroud Diego Armando, and show his story before the incident with Dahlia, then also showing his life as Godot up until the equivalent of case 3-5


On a side note, Maya Fey, Ace Attorney!!!! Or an AAI game focusing on any of:
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I'd love to see what a lot of the main characters from GS1-3 are up to, but by bringing them back in AJ2, you run the risk of taking the spotlight off of Polly again. The trouble with bringing up characters from the Phoenix games is that they all have a much deeper history with Phoenix than they would with Apollo. For that reason, I don't really want to see Maya, Larry, Gumshoe, Edgeworth or any other major characters from the previous games in AJ2.

Really, the only character I'd like to return from the Phoenix era games would be Lana. I'd love to see another case revolving around her and Ema which would also make up for the lack of character development Ema got in AJ. I can also see her character not focusing too much on Phoenix despite their history together.

As for AJ characters, Thalassa, Wocky, Machi and Vera are a given for me. I can also see Brushel showing up again and taking on the Oldbag/Lotta role of "Oh no, not HIM again!".
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Most definately Dee Vasquez. She didn't even seem like a murderer to me when I got to the conclusion of 1-3, so I'd love to see her after getting released after serving time for manslaughter. She's way too interesting a character to leave on the bench. She'd make an awesome client in GS5, and it would shake things up a little bit having a client who is known to be very shady and has served time.
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How about Apollo Justice was a dream that phoenix had before going to defend. zac. now all the PW:AA peoplez can come back. :phoenix: :edgeworth: :maya: and everybody else
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Most definately Dee Vasquez. She didn't even seem like a murderer to me when I got to the conclusion of 1-3, so I'd love to see her after getting released after serving time for manslaughter. She's way too interesting a character to leave on the bench. She'd make an awesome client in GS5, and it would shake things up a little bit having a client who is known to be very shady and has served time.


Vasquez didnt seem a very nice person but not a murderer - as you say she only killed in self defence.
Why the
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grim_tales wrote:
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Most definately Dee Vasquez. She didn't even seem like a murderer to me when I got to the conclusion of 1-3, so I'd love to see her after getting released after serving time for manslaughter. She's way too interesting a character to leave on the bench. She'd make an awesome client in GS5, and it would shake things up a little bit having a client who is known to be very shady and has served time.


Vasquez didnt seem a very nice person but not a murderer - as you say she only killed in self defence.
Why the
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scheme to pin it on Will (I've forgotten) though?

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It wasn't Dee who made the scheme, but Jack Hammer. Hammer thought, originally, to kill Dee and pin on Will - however, she don't knew about all of that before the murder... it was a lucky coincidence, so she just shoved the guilty away from her.

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JUST Apollo Justice characters, hm...?

Let's see...Vera Misham, Lamiroir, and maybe Valant for the people who aren't guaranteed returns (Apollo, Trucy, Klavier, and Phoenix; though Lamiroir ties into the main characters so she might be a sure thing as well).

Maybe Wocky for some weirdness but otherwise...that's about it.

Now for non-Apollo Justice characters, there are many. Maya, Pearl, Miles Edgeworth, Franziska von Karma, and Lana Skye all spring to mind (Lana in particular; did we forget Ema has a sister...?). Dick Gumshoe if they want someone to assist Ema. If Iris wasn't such a throwaway character I'd say her too (despite having such a close tie to the REAL main character, she seems like she probably won't see the light of day again; which is a damn shame).
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Another cool possibility about Dee Vasquez: she has a connection to DeKiller through Will Powers & Matt Engarde. She's also dodgy as hell and seems the type to hire a hitman. Perhaps she could work in a kind of spiritual successor to 2-4 where it appears your client hired a hitman to do the job for them.
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Olga Orly would be fun to see again as a witness who saw something because she was out doing something shady.

Also, Spark Brushel was flayed with several ugly sticks as a child, but his headline gimmick was actually pretty funny, so I'd like to see him again.
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Personally, I want to see ANY old villain back, possibly by means of them being out on parole...Or creepier, good behavior. Not EVERYONE gets the death penalty.

Also, I need more Klavier Gavin in my life, but since I'm fairly certain he'll be back in some capacity, it's not really worth mentioning. xD
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Personally, I want to see ANY old villain back, possibly by means of them being out on parole...Or creepier, good behavior. Not EVERYONE gets the death penalty.

Also, I need more Klavier Gavin in my life, but since I'm fairly certain he'll be back in some capacity, it's not really worth mentioning. xD


We had enough Klavier Gavin in the first Apollo Justice. We didn't even get a "final boss" prosecutor, just 2 days of Klavier and 1 day of ridiculously easy Klavier wearing sunglasses.
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Icarus wrote:
Diana Rose wrote:
Personally, I want to see ANY old villain back, possibly by means of them being out on parole...Or creepier, good behavior. Not EVERYONE gets the death penalty.

Also, I need more Klavier Gavin in my life, but since I'm fairly certain he'll be back in some capacity, it's not really worth mentioning. xD


We had enough Klavier Gavin in the first Apollo Justice. We didn't even get a "final boss" prosecutor, just 2 days of Klavier and 1 day of ridiculously easy Klavier wearing sunglasses.


But....But MORE Klavier. :kyouya:

XDD Haha, I know, I know. I'm just a hopeless fangirl, lulz. I DO want to figure out the Gavin boys' back story, though. I already have a pretty cohesive theory on Apollo's, so I'm not as desperately curious. The Gavin's is simultaneously easier and more difficult to figure out, since it could be a LOT of different things.

Mostly I want to see old villains, though. XDD I don't like most of the new characters they're putting out lately...
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Assuming the events of AJ:AA turned him into a less-"friendly" prosecutor, I would like Klavier to return as a final prosecutor. I would also like to see Pearl return..... I would think she would be BBF's with Trucy so there would be one way to make Trucy have more of a personal investment in a potential case. I'd also be curious to see how Pearl would change over the 7-8 years since PW:TT if her biological dad obtained custody over her.....
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Besides the main guys, I want to see:

Every good character from PW and AAI saga

Vera

Thalessa

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Just give me more of my waifu Ema and I'll be fine. I'd be happy if Klavier was somehow interwoven into the plot for one or two cases too though.

Personally I'd like it if old characters were kept out of AJ altogether from this point on. I'm afraid that if any more are brought back(and transformed like Phoenix)I'll just resent seeing how much they've changed and end up hating AJ for it.
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Hakari Mikagami replacing Udgey for (at least) one of the cases.
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I like that idea :D
Maybe she could be a final boss or something? She could be to Apollo what Manfred was to Nick (or the new trilogies' Manfred anyway) :D
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:franny: and :mina: should return, even though the second is unlikely, still, both are :nick-heart: , so they'll hopefully return. I wonder how :franny: would react to :kyouya: . Would she be a fangirl or call him a glimmerous fop? :aiga: should return, he has so much potential, even though in jail. He could be the next main detective like Gumshoe and Ema were. Valant is necessary, Vera too. Mask DeMasque could be in another case. :edgeworth: MOAR EDGEH NOW! :larry: I want to come back! For me, Brushel was annoying, creepy, and disturbing, I don't want more of him. :hotti: Ho, ho, ho! Hotti will most likely return. Maybe some AAI characters will show, maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see.
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I like that idea :D
Maybe she could be a final boss or something? She could be to Apollo what Manfred was to Nick (or the new trilogies' Manfred anyway) :D


I meant as the presiding judge (like the Judge's Brother in TaT), not as a villain.

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:aiga: should return, he has so much potential, even though in jail. He could be the next main detective like Gumshoe and Ema were.


As much as I want Luke to return, I highly believe that he's been executed by the time of AJ.

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Detective Luke Atmey wrote:
:aiga: should return, he has so much potential, even though in jail. He could be the next main detective like Gumshoe and Ema were.


As much as I want Luke to return, I highly believe that he's been executed by the time of AJ.[/quote]


No! I refuse to believe it! :zenitora: We can settle this in the thread dedicated to Atmey's Fate! :karma:
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No! I refuse to believe it! :zenitora: We can settle this in the thread dedicated to Atmey's Fate! :karma:


I believe that has already been settled.
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Klavier Gavin, but not as an indicated cameo, like in AAI, but rather as a "real person".
Also not as prosecutor, like put him into a total new role like a killer, victim, lover, defendant.
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Also not as prosecutor, like put him into a total new role like a killer, victim, lover, defendant.


Wouln't that just be a retread of 1-4?
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Also not as prosecutor, like put him into a total new role like a killer, victim, lover, defendant.


Wouln't that just be a retread of 1-4?

Wouldn´t that just be normal for AA?
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I just want to see Maya again.
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I just hope brushel never returns again. Ugh, just ugh him. If he does, I just hope he's the victim :chinami:
But I would like to see Kay, Gumshoe and Franny appear once more! Maya a definite!
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We need Maya back (I don't like Trucy so much), Gant (based on a fan-theory that
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, Gumshoe (I want my instant-noodles back, pall), Godot (It'd be cool if he was visited in prison or put on parole, or.. I don't know. I like coffee), and I think Franziska was pretty badass, so why not, eh?
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For AJ characters, I want Kristoph to return. I felt like they left us hanging with
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and I HATE cliffhangers.

As for PW characters, mostly I want Larry to return just for the sake of him annoying Phoenix and Apollo's confusion of the situation. I kind of want to see at least a cameo of Gumshoe. He deserves a good ending. :maya:

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For AJ characters, I want Kristoph to return. I felt like they left us hanging with [spoiler=]the Black Psyche-locks[/spoiler


I have a feeling that we haven't seen the end of Kristoph yet, actually. If you look at the GS Anniversary art, you can clearly see that Kristoph is still being treated as part of the main AJ cast, despite what happened in the game. Though I personally don't want to see Kristoph again because I think he's trying too hard to be the AJ Arc's version of Dahlia Hawthorne, I dunno, something just tells me he might appear again, if only in a flashback or something.

Of course, this is all considering IF GS5 is an Apollo game at all.
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Was it actually fully explored why Kristoph became evil? That might be an interesting backstory.
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Was it actually fully explored why Kristoph became evil? That might be an interesting backstory.


If I remember correctly he just got pissed that Zak chose Phoenix over him and thus decided to have Phoenix disbarred. It's a really shallow reason, but other than that I don't think there was any other explanation given. Either Kristoph was already very corrupt to begin with, or he just had some major self-esteem issues. Probably a bit of both.
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If I remember correctly he just got pissed that Zak chose Phoenix over him and thus decided to have Phoenix disbarred. It's a really shallow reason, but other than that I don't think there was any other explanation given. Either Kristoph was already very corrupt to begin with, or he just had some major self-esteem issues. Probably a bit of both.

He was already very corrupt. He's the one who commissioned fake evidence to win a trial, and even if Zak hadn't ditched him, I think he was still planning to have both Vera and her father killed. It's been a while since I played so I'm not 100% sure about that last part, but I do remember that the reason Zak decided to change his lawyer was precisely because he realized (via poker) that Kristoph was a bad person.
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He was already very corrupt. He's the one who commissioned fake evidence to win a trial, and even if Zak hadn't ditched him, I think he was still planning to have both Vera and her father killed. It's been a while since I played so I'm not 100% sure about that last part, but I do remember that the reason Zak decided to change his lawyer was precisely because he realized (via poker) that Kristoph was a bad person.


Exactly, which is why I said he was both corrupt and had self-esteem issues. Zak figured out through the poker game that Kristoph was bad and chose Nick over him, then Kristoph decided to ruin Nick's career over such a shallow matter.
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Oh you guys... It's the same story from AAI: the fans demanded that Ema appear 'as a cameo' and stuff, and after the game was released, the same people complained about how Ema's role was 'small'.

That's why I don't care for any of the AA characters returning for GS5, being from PW, AJ or ME. Also, this Edgeworth business... Really, AAI 1 and 2 (though the second is a bit 'untouchable') and you guys still want more? Phoenix doesn't have to tell Apollo about every single bit of his past and the other characters' lives don't revolve around him. The DVDs back at 4-2 prove that he hasn't 'dumped' any of them.

Long rants aside, I think Lamiroir, Brushel, Kristoph and the main characters will be back, hopefully with more Apollo action instead of the spoon-feeding that was AJ:AA.

As well as those freaking Black Psyche-Locks.
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Also, this Edgeworth business... Really, AAI 1 and 2 (though the second is a bit 'untouchable') and you guys still want more?

The AAI games take place 7 years before Apollo Justice. No matter how many AAI games we get, of course people are going to want to see Edgeworth in the "present".

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Phoenix doesn't have to tell Apollo about every single bit of his past and the other characters' lives don't revolve around him.

Still, a few cameos or references once in a while would be nice.

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The DVDs back at 4-2 prove that he hasn't 'dumped' any of them.

How so? If I recall correctly, Phoenix said that the DVD were sent to him by a friend or something. Assuming he's referring to Maya, this only proves that Phoenix is still in contact with her; it doesn't say anything about his other friends.
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