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Is the Phantom given a name? I know he pretended to be Bobby Fulbright after killing him... What's the guy's real name?

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Even he doesn't know. He apparently got so caught up in pretending to be other people, he's forgotten his own identity.



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Thanks for the answer. By the way, I can't believe nobody has asked this yet: How much difference is there between the Payne brothers, Winston and Gaspen?
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Sorry if my questions have already been answered but it would be too time consuming to go through the entire 12 pages so far to see if these have been asked so if answered I'd appreciate it if someone would just re answer or direct me to where it's been answered.

So here goes!

1. To what extent is the magatama and the bracelet used? Are they used about the same amount of times as they were in the previous games or do you just break psyche locks on a few people and perceive a few people in the entire game?

2. Does Mr. Hat make an appearance again?
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SweetieBot wrote:
Thanks for the answer. By the way, I can't believe nobody has asked this yet: How much difference is there between the Payne brothers, Winston and Gaspen?

They're about the same, though in terms of personality Gaspen is somewhat more underhanded in his tactics than his brother, even in comparison to his "rookie killer" days.


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Sorry if my questions have already been answered but it would be too time consuming to go through the entire 12 pages so far to see if these have been asked so if answered I'd appreciate it if someone would just re answer or direct me to where it's been answered.

So here goes!

1. To what extent is the magatama and the bracelet used? Are they used about the same amount of times as they were in the previous games or do you just break psyche locks on a few people and perceive a few people in the entire game?

2. Does Mr. Hat make an appearance again?


Spoiler: 1
The magatama is only really used near the end of the game. Apollo perceives a few people, though not really in court for the most part. Neither were used as frequently as previous games.


Spoiler: 2
Not the real one, though a miniature figure of him appears on Apollo's backpack in his DLC costume.

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
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Apollo acts a bit more like a mentor as long as he isn't knocked down - which admittedly, is pretty frequent.


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When you say he gets shut down a lot, would you say that it's because of the character himself, or just the situations he's written in? Is Apollo screwing up or is the writer making him screw up? (making 0% sense here)
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Can someone offer a logical explanation for this, please? (Case 2 spoilers):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tHeJ8N6nOY
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Regarding Turnabout Return, refresh my memory;

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Why was Pearl at the aquarium?

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When Phoenix shows magatama after Maya's letter, it's uncharged. As far as I know, it was recharged by Pearls in Turnabout Return... Not to mention it was charged by the whole time of AJ as we know from 4-4.

Can someone clear up this charging confusion?
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Sligneris wrote:
When Phoenix shows magatama after Maya's letter, it's uncharged. As far as I know, it was recharged by Pearls in Turnabout Return... Not to mention it was charged by the whole time of AJ as we know from 4-4.

Can someone clear up this charging confusion?

Well, there's nothing that says that Pearl hasn't been recharging it off-screen.
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Spoiler: One for two questions
Apollo acts a bit more like a mentor as long as he isn't knocked down - which admittedly, is pretty frequent.


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When you say he gets shut down a lot, would you say that it's because of the character himself, or just the situations he's written in? Is Apollo screwing up or is the writer making him screw up? (making 0% sense here)

Spoiler:
It's not his fault; Simon just easily gets the better of him, especially when his cuffs are broken. At certain times, thanks to Simon's manipulation, Apollo messes himself up a lot during the second case. Fortunately, by the time they meet again in court in the 4th case, he's become more resistant.


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Can someone offer a logical explanation for this, please? (Case 2 spoilers):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tHeJ8N6nOY

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Jinxie is psychologically ill. She's known to have moments when she appears to be "possessed" by Tenma Taro. Nonetheless, she can snap back to attention when someone calls her, though she doesn't know where she may have wandered.


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Regarding Turnabout Return, refresh my memory;

Spoiler:
Why was Pearl at the aquarium?

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School field trip; don't know which school. She lingered around after the police closed off the aquarium due to the murder, and got herself lost. Fortunately, someone helped her way back to Ale's pool, where she meets up with Wright and Athena.

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Sligneris wrote:
When Phoenix shows magatama after Maya's letter, it's uncharged. As far as I know, it was recharged by Pearls in Turnabout Return... Not to mention it was charged by the whole time of AJ as we know from 4-4.

Can someone clear up this charging confusion?

Well, there's nothing that says that Pearl hasn't been recharging it off-screen.

Well, but I still would like to know at which points in game Magatama is charged or uncharged.
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Spoiler: Simon
I read that everything Simon does is to protect his girlfriend, right?
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That is not true.


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That is not true.


You can tag a spoiler by putting it in tags like this:

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So, why did he try to protect Athena and how does he know her?
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Sligneris wrote:
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Sligneris wrote:
When Phoenix shows magatama after Maya's letter, it's uncharged. As far as I know, it was recharged by Pearls in Turnabout Return... Not to mention it was charged by the whole time of AJ as we know from 4-4.

Can someone clear up this charging confusion?

Well, there's nothing that says that Pearl hasn't been recharging it off-screen.

Well, but I still would like to know at which points in game Magatama is charged or uncharged.

There's no real significance behind it. The explanation of Psyche-locks in Turnabout Return is included for new players who haven't gone through case 4 yet. Then, I'd say it wasn't charged before Pearl's appearance in Turnabout Return and stayed charged for the rest of the game. He was still able to see locks on someone during case 5. As for why it looked uncharged while he was reading that letter... I dunno.

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So, why did he try to protect Athena and how does he know her?

Spoiler:
Athena is the daughter of his former psychology teacher. Since he's so up on his samurai code, he feels it's his responsibility to watch over her.

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Spoiler: Investigations and slight Dual Destinies spoilers, I guess
I've been trying my hardest to avoid DD spoilers, but I'm aware of the very basics of Athena's tragic backstory (i.e. what they cover in the first case). Without mentioning specifics because I'm really trying to avoid spoiling anything from later cases, how much does the stuff dealing with her backstory clash with her bubbly personality, if at all? Does she know how to reign it in when things get serious?

I ask because this is by the AAI team and I didn't really buy into Kay's characterization. I love comic relief sidekicks, but she generally seemed so bubbly even when dealing with her father's death, and it made the stakes feel really low. Did the team strike a better balance with Athena?
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Spoiler: Investigations and slight Dual Destinies spoilers, I guess
I've been trying my hardest to avoid DD spoilers, but I'm aware of the very basics of Athena's tragic backstory (i.e. what they cover in the first case). Without mentioning specifics because I'm really trying to avoid spoiling anything from later cases, how much does the stuff dealing with her backstory clash with her bubbly personality, if at all? Does she know how to reign it in when things get serious?

I ask because this is by the AAI team and I didn't really buy into Kay's characterization. I love comic relief sidekicks, but she generally seemed so bubbly even when dealing with her father's death, and it made the stakes feel really low. Did the team strike a better balance with Athena?

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Can anybody explain what those things are that Blackquill throws at people during court proceedings?...to me they seem like ninja stars

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manfred von wright wrote:
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Can anybody explain what those things are that Blackquill throws at people during court proceedings?...to me they seem like ninja stars

...Nope.
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I think it's implied to be more of a sword than throwing stars. It's probably something that's just there for the sake of looking cool, like Adrian's infinite glasses cheat, or Max's cards flying out.

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Sligneris wrote:
Spoiler: Case 5
http://dualdestinies.tumblr.com/post/59256649117/evidence-is-everything-there-is-nothing-more

...Wow. I used to really dislike Apollo's out-of-court animations until I saw this one. Is it reflected a bit more?

That thing I posted from general impressions thread... Now, to re-ask my question, is it?
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Since someone mentioned that
Spoiler: "Non-plot spoiler"
Phoenix's hair flap gets cut off,
is Apollo's hair spike given a similar treatment? Or any silliness about his hair? And while on the topic of hair, is Athena's hairstyle considered weird in any way?

I kind of want to ask more, but I want the story and puzzle to seem fresh, and that I'm not cheating (yet). I think all the other significant questions have already been asked.
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Well...

Sligneris wrote:
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Spoiler: Case 5
http://dualdestinies.tumblr.com/post/59256649117/evidence-is-everything-there-is-nothing-more

...Wow. I used to really dislike Apollo's out-of-court animations until I saw this one. Is it reflected a bit more?

That thing I posted from general impressions thread... Now, to re-ask my question, is it?

Now to add to that - what is DD's stance on these 7 years? You know, did they see each other or not and all this stuff.

If it isn't clearly stated, then how does suggestions towards it sound? I would prefer quotes over speculation.
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Is there any kind of direct interaction between Klavier and Phoenix? No details needed. Just a yes or no is fine.
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Rognik wrote:
Since someone mentioned that
Spoiler: "Non-plot spoiler"
Phoenix's hair flap gets cut off,
is Apollo's hair spike given a similar treatment? Or any silliness about his hair?

I don't think so.
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Also Nick's hair flip immediately grows back :P


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Is there any kind of direct interaction between Klavier and Phoenix? No details needed. Just a yes or no is fine.

Uhhhhh I think so, but possibly not. Don't remember 100%.
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Bad Player wrote:
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Since someone mentioned that
Spoiler: "Non-plot spoiler"
Phoenix's hair flap gets cut off,
is Apollo's hair spike given a similar treatment? Or any silliness about his hair?

I don't think so.

Really? Jinxie calling Apollo a demon throughout the 2nd case isn't considered "silliness"?
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I agree, Jinxie, he could definitely pull off the Great Nine-tales II outfit.


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Sligneris wrote:
Sligneris wrote:
Spoiler: Case 5
http://dualdestinies.tumblr.com/post/59256649117/evidence-is-everything-there-is-nothing-more

...Wow. I used to really dislike Apollo's out-of-court animations until I saw this one. Is it reflected a bit more?

That thing I posted from general impressions thread... Now, to re-ask my question, is it?

Now to add to that - what is DD's stance on these 7 years? You know, did they see each other or not and all this stuff.

If it isn't clearly stated, then how does suggestions towards it sound? I would prefer quotes over speculation.

Spoiler: to your first question
You can see it the first time in the lobby during the 1st case. It's just for a single line, though. The other time would be where it's shown on that page.


Could you clarify your second question a bit more? I'm not sure who you're talking about.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Could you clarify your second question a bit more? I'm not sure who you're talking about.

I think it's about the original cast keeping in contact or not, which if I'm not mistaken
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is confirmed in-game that they never lost contact and they do know about Trucy and what happened to Phoenix, and all that other stuff.

Surprise people!


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Forgot I opened this thread, absent mindedly clicked the first spoiler and ruined the final boss for myself.

Kicking myself right now.
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Reglare wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Could you clarify your second question a bit more? I'm not sure who you're talking about.

I think it's about the original cast keeping in contact or not, which if I'm not mistaken
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is confirmed in-game that they never lost contact and they do know about Trucy and what happened to Phoenix, and all that other stuff.

Surprise people!


EDIT: Of course, I might be incorrect.

Of course they know. How many times have I seen someone congratulating Nick on regaining his attorney's badge... (Well, that might just be me, considering how many times I've presented that badge. It makes me happy that there are more characters in this game that respond to attorney's badges than any other game thus far.)

As an aside, Pearl and Trucy met long before the DLC case, when Pearl and Athena finally meet. It's also assumed that she's pretty familiar with Apollo too.
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Know that feeling bro.

Spoiler:
I later furthered the spoiler with learning the Phantom stuff. And then all the other villains.

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Forgot I opened this thread, absent mindedly clicked the first spoiler and ruined the final boss for myself.

Kicking myself right now.

I saw it on Madoushi's twitch stream right before I closed my browser. Still regret it, but luckily most of the spoilers I know of have been out of context, so there's still a whole lot to get from the game when I get to play it myself.
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manfred von wright wrote:
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Can anybody explain what those things are that Blackquill throws at people during court proceedings?...to me they seem like ninja stars

...Nope.
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I think it's implied to be more of a sword than throwing stars. It's probably something that's just there for the sake of looking cool, like Adrian's infinite glasses cheat, or Max's cards flying out.

OK thanks for explaining
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Though I still question why a "murderer" would have them, but I guess I would be thinking too deeply about it.

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manfred von wright wrote:
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Can anybody explain what those things are that Blackquill throws at people during court proceedings?...to me they seem like ninja stars

...Nope.
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I think it's implied to be more of a sword than throwing stars. It's probably something that's just there for the sake of looking cool, like Adrian's infinite glasses cheat, or Max's cards flying out.

OK thanks for explaining
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Though I still question why a "murderer" would have them, but I guess I would be thinking too deeply about it.

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Same reason they don't immediately replace his handcuffs when he breaks them :P

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Bad Player wrote:
manfred von wright wrote:
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Can anybody explain what those things are that Blackquill throws at people during court proceedings?...to me they seem like ninja stars

...Nope.
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I think it's implied to be more of a sword than throwing stars. It's probably something that's just there for the sake of looking cool, like Adrian's infinite glasses cheat, or Max's cards flying out.

No, it's much more.
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This is Sengoku-Basara-level of badassery. He can summon his will into blades that actually cut things. All Apollo and Phoenix can do is give him a heart attack.

...Granted, giving someone a heart attack could also be lethal.

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
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manfred von wright wrote:
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Can anybody explain what those things are that Blackquill throws at people during court proceedings?...to me they seem like ninja stars

...Nope.
Spoiler:
I think it's implied to be more of a sword than throwing stars. It's probably something that's just there for the sake of looking cool, like Adrian's infinite glasses cheat, or Max's cards flying out.

No, it's much more.
Spoiler:
This is Sengoku-Basara-level of badassery. He can summon his will into blades that actually cut things. All Apollo and Phoenix can do is give him a heart attack.

...Granted, giving someone a heart attack could also be lethal.


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I just assumed that it was an air blade thingy / air moved by the swiftness of his hand

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Ash wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
No, it's much more.
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This is Sengoku-Basara-level of badassery. He can summon his will into blades that actually cut things. All Apollo and Phoenix can do is give him a heart attack.

...Granted, giving someone a heart attack could also be lethal.


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I just assumed that it was an air blade thingy / air moved by the swiftness of his hand

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So... he displaced the air by a swift hand gesture? If I actually did a calculation on it, I'd expect its speed would far exceed the speed of sound. He'd be making sonic booms and heated shockwaves all over the place. The courtroom would be destroyed within seconds, and those who managed to survive would have him arrested for unrestrained collateral damage.


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Dunno if this is really spoilerish or not but...

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Who has official art been released for

Phoenix, Athena, Apollo, Simon, Fulbright, Trucy, Edgeworth, Klavier, Pearl... until we get scans of the official guide.

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I am just asking for some numbers, so I hope you took notes while playing. ;)

1. How many cross-examinations are there? (Please give the number for every case.)
2. How many profile entries do we get?
3. How many pieces of evidence are there, not including the generic ones?

See? I didn't forget; just was delayed. Here, I even included the DLC case.
Spoiler: 1.
Case 1: 4
Case 2: 9
Case 3: 7
Case 4: 5
Case 5: 5
DLC case: 7

Spoiler: 2.
Case 1: 6
Case 2: 11
Case 3: 12
Case 4: 13
Case 5: 16
DLC case: 14

Spoiler: 3.
Case 1: 9
Case 2: 15
Case 3: 14
Case 4: 14
Case 5: 20
DLC case: 20

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Nice, thank you so much Rubia.

Spoiler: About the number of cross examinations
There are very few of them, only 30 in the main game. Even AJ or the original AA with only 4 cases had more of them.
GS1: 3+9+12+10+19 = 34 +19 = 53
GS2: 5+10+12+18 = 45
GS3: 7+10+14+7+17 = 55
GS4: 7+10+12+9 = 38
GK1: 6+9+12+11+16 = 54
GK2: 7+13+10+10+12= 52

GS5: 4+9+7+5+5= 30 (+7 DLC)

I hope the game doesn't feel like it's somehow missing cross examinations.
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Lusankya wrote:
Nice, thank you so much Rubia.

Spoiler: About the number of cross examinations
There are very few of them, only 30 in the main game. Even AJ or the original AA with only 4 cases had more of them.
GS1: 3+9+12+10+19 = 34 +19 = 53
GS2: 5+10+12+18 = 45
GS3: 7+10+14+7+17 = 55
GS4: 7+10+12+9 = 38
GK1: 6+9+12+11+16 = 54
GK2: 7+13+10+10+12= 52

GS5: 4+9+7+5+5= 30 (+7 DLC)

I hope the game doesn't feel like it's somehow missing cross examinations.

It's fine, actually. I didn't include the Mood Matrix sequences that usually are squeezed between some testimonies. Those sequences can sometimes last a while, like the equivalent of 2 or 3 cross-examinations in one. Some times, they require multiple points in the testimony to be updated; other times, can end with presenting evidence (there's nothing more to press when a testimony is complete). Even other times, they require searching out the source of overrunning emotions before the usual "find contradicting emotions" segments. If I recall correctly, there's one in the 1st case, 2 in the 2nd, 2 in the 3rd, 1 in the 4th, 2 in the 5th, and 2 in the DLC. As expected, the one in the 1st case is the shortest sequence out of them all.

Finally, all the other times are the usual "select answer from list below" or "present relevant evidence" segments. It's a pretty good balance of gameplay, though the Perceive and Psyche-lock segments are scattered and few.
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Okay, thanks for the clarification. That's very good to hear and I am so looking forward to experiencing it myself!
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